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href="http://www.twinity.com">Twinity</a>, based in Berlin, that will recreate the world&#8217;s coolest cities, starting with Berlin.  Mark loves Berlin more than anything, so he tried exploring his #1 home from his #2 home, Mauritius, and here is his story, as reported in an email to his Berlin posse, <strong>I think I committed suicide in Twinity</strong>:</p><blockquote><p><em>Mark Harrison &#8211; Mauritius &#8211; 22 February 2008, 14:05</em> &#8212; After over a week of trying &#8211; endless module and update loading, and countless crashes -  I finally got logged into Twinity.com, a 3D virtual world, a la <a
class="zem_slink" title="Second Life" rel="homepage" href="http://Secondlife.com">Second Life</a>, but set in renderings of real cities.  The first of these Twinity cities is Berlin, my favorite city in the world, and my summertime home (and apparently the best-mapped city in the world, as well as the home to Twinity&#8217;s headquarters).</p><p>I was incarnated as a completely physically average white guy in his late 30&#8242;s &#8211; quite accurate in many respects except for the color and quantity of hair, and the hue of my eyes.  The statistically average white guy, even in Germany &#8211; counter to stereotypes &#8211; has brown hair and brown eyes.  Average Guy Mark was dropped into existence at Hackischer Markt, which is a good place to come into the world, since it is essentially the center of the universe, if your universe consists of only Berlin, you are a wired hipster type, and you are a provincial just arrived in this big, big city and instantly lose your bearings if you can&#8217;t see the <a
class="zem_slink" title="Radio masts and towers" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_masts_and_towers">TV tower</a> on Alexanderplatz.</p><p>I decided to walk home &#8211; to my apartment in <a
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class="zem_slink" title="Spree" rel="geolocation" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=52.5361111111,13.2086111111&amp;spn=1.0,1.0&amp;q=52.5361111111,13.2086111111%20%28Spree%29&amp;t=h">Spree river</a> that I take on almost a daily basis in my real-life Berlin when I am there.  I walked over to Monbijou park (eventually figuring out how to run by holding down the shift key, which reduced my impatience a bit), bouncing off a few trees, but successfully oozing straight through a pissoir.  I walked over to the railing at the edge of the river, looked around, then took one more step.  To my surprise, I found can walk through railings just as effectively as I can walk through pissoirs.</p><p>I fell a couple meters and found myself standing knee-deep in the Spree &#8211; not very realistic at that point in the Spree, considering that it&#8217;s a major shipping channel, but convenient for me as an avatar in the river.  I could still walk.</p><p>I walked along the river a bit, thinking I could perhaps just walk all the way home in the river, maybe climbing up one of the stone staircases I knew should be coming up along the way, if Twinity&#8217;s mapping of Berlin is indeed that comprehensive.  After a few steps I came to what I assume was the end of the universe&#8230; a wall of beige halfway through <a
class="zem_slink" title="Monbijou Park" rel="geolocation" href="http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=52.5231,13.3969&amp;spn=1.0,1.0&amp;q=52.5231,13.3969%20%28Monbijou%20Park%29&amp;t=h">Monbijou Park</a>, cutting across the river, and t-ing into the riverside wall of the Boda Museum.  The end-of-the-universe wall was insurmountable, as was the vertical, stone wall bank of the river.  I didn&#8217;t really want to spend the rest of my virtual life knee-deep in a fetid central European river, so I hit the &#8220;map&#8221; button, assuming that there could well be a way to fly, or teleport or something like in Second Life.</p><p>This hubris clearly angered the gods.  I guess I should have accepted my humaness and walked back up the river looking for a ladder or something rather than thinking I might game the laws of the universe and escape the limitations of my corporal form.  My world was wiped from existence with a cold Windows dialog box announcing that Twinity was no longer responding to anything I might ask it to do.  Then Vista went looking for Answers as to the Reason for this caprice of the gods, and unfortunately came back, giving me only more questions.  Quite realistic, that part of Twinity.</p><p>A restart of the program, and a surprisingly quick login process later (considering logging in took me a week of trying and failing, then a good 10 minutes when it finally worked today), I was again granted a view of my Twinity existence.</p><p>I think I am dead.</p><p>I have only a setting sun in a golden sky, adorned with a few evening clouds and the pregnant belly of a pale, twilight three-quarter moon.  I have a 360 degree view of my heavens, and when I spin on my axis &#8211; my only remaining mobility in my gentle, but solitary, god-forsaken purgatory &#8211; the clouds tremble as if in silent horror at the eternity of loneliness I have been damned to by my unforgivable, cardinal sin of suicide (is <a
class="zem_slink" title="Suicide" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide">self-murder</a> through clumsiness officially suicide?  Anyone know a theologian?) in the murky virtual waters of my beloved Berlin.</p><p>Life is so short.  So meaningless.  So incomprehensible.</p><p>Mark Harrison<br
/> Born: February 22nd, 2009 18:52 <a
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/> Died: February 22nd, 2009 19:04 Berlin, Germany<br
/> &#8220;Well, there&#8217;s always <a
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href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2009/tc20090218_335887.htm"><strong>Debunking Six Social Media Myths</strong></a></p><p>For companies, resistance to social media is futile. Millions of people are creating content for the social Web. Your competitors are already there. Your customers have been there for a long time. If your business isn&#8217;t putting itself out there, it ought to be.</p><p>But before you take the plunge, bear in mind the many myths that surround social media.</p><p><strong>1. Social media is cheap, if not free.</strong> Yes, many of the tools that can be employed in social media marketing are free to use. These include Google&#8217;s (<a
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href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=EBAY">EBAY</a>) StumbleUpon. Free blogging tools abound too; among them are WordPress, <a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=35962803">Twitter</a>, and <a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=41623982">FriendFeed</a>.</p><p>However, integrating these tools into a corporate marketing program requires skill, time, and money. The budget for an effective social media marketing campaign begins at $50,000 for two to three months. I&#8217;m sure companies have spent less, and I know they&#8217;ve spent more.</p><p>Building a site that incorporates interactivity, allows user-generated content, and perhaps also includes e-commerce doesn&#8217;t come cheap from anyone who knows what they are doing. Even taking free software like WordPress and making it function as an effective interactive site, incorporating e-commerce, creating style sheets that integrate with the company&#8217;s branding, takes more than time. That takes skill, experience, and money.</p><p>As a rule, a $50,000 to $100,000 budget can cover the creation of a simple multimedia microsite that becomes the center of an online community. Add in some widgets to help distribute the content and form a credible group on Flickr, Twitter, or <a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=20765463">Facebook</a> and other networking groups to enhance the community aspect of the campaign. Complex functions add to programming and design costs.</p><p>A high-yield, highly targeted blog advertising campaign to kick off and support the program will cost an additional $25,000 to $100,000 a month. Advertising through Google&#8217;s AdWords, e-mail support, co-registration, and other tools that drive traffic would be additional costs.</p><p><strong>2. Anyone can do it.</strong> A surfeit of whiz kids and more experienced marketers are claiming to be social media experts and even social media gurus. Search the bios of Robert Scoble&#8217;s 56,838 Twitter followers using Tweepsearch (www.tweepsearch.com), an index of the bios of Twitter users, and you&#8217;ll find:</p><ul><li>4,273 Internet marketers</li><li>1,652 social media marketers</li><li>513 social media consultants</li><li>272 social media strategists</li><li>180 social media experts</li><li>98 social media gurus</li><li>58 Internet marketing gurus</li></ul><p>How many of them have actually created a successful campaign for clients using social media tools? I bet you&#8217;d be hard-pressed to find half a dozen with real track records.</p><p>A successful social media campaign integrates social media into the many elements of marketing, including advertising, digital, and PR. Opinion and theory are no match for experience, and the best social media marketers now have more than 10 years of experience incorporating interactivity, blogs, forums, user-generated content, and contests into online marketing.</p><p>Video contests by companies hoping for viral buzz and Google juice are as plentiful as mosquitoes on a humid summer night. But, like their insect counterparts, most video contests suck.</p><p>It&#8217;s the rare video contest that gets as many as 2,000 entries. Many, like Denny&#8217;s (<a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=DENM">DENM</a>) <a
href="http://www.vote4real.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">recent disastrous effort</a>, get fewer than 10 entries. Apparently, 48 Denny&#8217;s breakfasts over four years wasn&#8217;t a big motivator.</p><p><strong>3. You can make a big splash in a short time.</strong> Sure, sometimes a social media campaign can produce substantial and measurable results quickly.</p><p>Social media is great if you&#8217;re already a star, but that doesn&#8217;t happen overnight. Amid the recent launch of my T-shirt design business, <a
href="http://www.pawfun.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">Pawfun.com</a>, I have relied heavily on my 4,000-plus Twitter <a
href="http://www.twitter.com/whatsnext" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">followers</a> and 120,000 readers of my <a
href="http://www.whatsnextblog.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">What&#8217;s Next Blog</a>, which I&#8217;ve updated as often as five times a day since 2003. Because that network already exists, with not one dollar spent on advertising, we were able to generate more traffic in our first three days than some major companies get after years online.</p><p><a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?capId=92838">Zappos</a>Chief Executive Tony Hsieh, whose company has millions of customers who are evangelists for the great service that built the brand, quickly became a Twitter star, with more than 32,000 followers. When Dell (<a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=DELL">DELL</a>), JetBlue Airways (<a
href="http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=JBLU">JBLU</a>), the Chicago Bulls, and other love-&#8217;em-or-hate-&#8217;em brands joined Twitter, they immediately developed huge followings.</p><p>Tweets can be used to drive traffic to articles, Web sites, contests, videos, and so on—if people already care about your brand, or if you have a truly original idea that people will want to share with their followers.</p><p>One recent example of a Twitter-generated success is <a
href="http://www.savvyauntie.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">Savvy Auntie</a>, a community for aunts, godmothers, and &#8220;other women who love kids&#8221; that was launched six months ago by Melanie Notkin. She has counted on Twitter to drive traffic, help her find suppliers, products, and even investors. She developed a Twitter following before launching her business, then tapped into it for help when she launched.</p><p><strong>4. You can do it all in-house.</strong> Wrong! You need strategy, contacts, tools, and experience—a combination not generally found in in-house teams, who often reinvent the wheel or use the wrong tools.</p><p>It is rare indeed to find an in-house team that can not only conceive and execute a social media campaign but also drive traffic to it with effective e-mail segmentation, search optimization, blogger outreach, blog advertising, Google ads, and more.</p><p><strong>5. If you do something great, people will find it.</strong> Quite simply, that never was true. Until you can drive traffic to your social media effort, you&#8217;ve got a tree falling in the forest, heard only by those standing nearby. A great number of tools can drive traffic, including StumbleUpon, Digg, and Twitter, but nothing works better than word of mouse—one friend telling another, &#8220;Hey look at this!&#8221;</p><p><strong>6.  You can&#8217;t measure social media marketing results.</strong> You can use a variety of methods, including mentions on blogs and in media; comments on the content; real-time blog advertising results, and click-throughs to your company Web site. You can get very precise statistics from a variety of sites, including <a
href="http://www.google.com/trends" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">Google Trends</a>, Twitter search, Google Analytics, <a
href="http://www.backtype.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">BackType</a>, and <a
href="http://searchanalytics.compete.com/site_referrals/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">Compete</a>.</p><p>The tools are there. The gurus who know how to use and interpret them—not so much.</p><p
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href="http://www.whatsnextblog.com/" onclick="popup(this.href,770,600);return false;" target="popup">What&#8217;s Next Blog</a>.</p></blockquote><p></p><div
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href="http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/01/rev_lowery_inauguration_benedi.html">Chicago Sun-Times</a> with the goods. Thanks, man!</p><blockquote><p><strong>Reverend Joseph Lowery Inauguration Benediction Transcript</strong></p><p>God of our weary years, God of our silent tears, thou who has brought us thus far along the way, thou who has by thy might led us into the light, keep us forever in the path, we pray, lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met thee, lest our hearts, drunk with the wine of the world, we forget thee. Shadowed beneath thy hand may we forever stand &#8212; true to thee, O God, and true to our native land.</p><p>We truly give thanks for the glorious experience we&#8217;ve shared this day. We pray now, O Lord, for your blessing upon thy servant, Barack Obama, the 44th president of these United States, his family and his administration. He has come to this high office at a low moment in the national and, indeed, the global fiscal climate. But because we know you got the whole world in your hand, we pray for not only our nation, but for the community of nations. Our faith does not shrink, though pressed by the flood of mortal ills.</p><p>For we know that, Lord, you&#8217;re able and you&#8217;re willing to work through faithful leadership to restore stability, mend our brokenness, heal our wounds and deliver us from the exploitation of the poor or the least of these and from favoritism toward the rich, the elite of these.</p><p>We thank you for the empowering of thy servant, our 44th president, to inspire our nation to believe that, yes, we can work together to achieve a more perfect union. And while we have sown the seeds of greed &#8212; the wind of greed and corruption, and even as we reap the whirlwind of social and economic disruption, we seek forgiveness and we come in a spirit of unity and solidarity to commit our support to our president by our willingness to make sacrifices, to respect your creation, to turn to each other and not on each other.</p><p>And now, Lord, in the complex arena of human relations, help us to make choices on the side of love, not hate; on the side of inclusion, not exclusion; tolerance, not intolerance.</p><p>And as we leave this mountaintop, help us to hold on to the spirit of fellowship and the oneness of our family. Let us take that power back to our homes, our workplaces, our churches, our temples, our mosques, or wherever we seek your will.</p><p>Bless President Barack, First Lady Michelle. Look over our little, angelic Sasha and Malia.</p><p>We go now to walk together, children, pledging that we won&#8217;t get weary in the difficult days ahead. We know you will not leave us alone, with your hands of power and your heart of love.</p><p>Help us then, now, Lord, to work for that day when nation shall not lift up sword against nation, when tanks will be beaten into tractors, when every man and every woman shall sit under his or her own vine and fig tree, and none shall be afraid; when justice will roll down like waters and righteousness as a mighty stream.</p><p>Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around &#8212; (laughter) &#8212; when yellow will be mellow &#8212; (laughter) &#8212; when the red man can get ahead, man &#8212; (laughter) &#8212; and when white will embrace what is right.</p><p>Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen.</p><p>AUDIENCE: Amen!</p><p>REV. LOWERY: Say amen &#8211;</p><p>AUDIENCE: Amen!</p><p>REV. LOWERY: &#8212; and amen.</p><p>AUDIENCE: Amen! (Cheers, applause.)</p><p>END.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry">Tapestry from the CBC</a> and they were talking about the <a
href="http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry/archives/2008/120708.html">Netherworlds</a>, including stuff about Anne Rice.  What interested me was a segment on elves and faeries. The segment focused on how folks from Iceland and Newfoundland truly believe in elves and faeries.  It made me think about growing up in Hawaii and how everybody I knew believed in both the menehunes and the nightmarchers.</p><p>In fact, we really believed in menehunes and many of us residents saw examples of the sort of endless, ancient, black lava rock walls that cut the verdant countryside. The fish ponds of almost super-human proportions. Even viaducts that carry water And, even more, we were always wary about running around in the wilderness at night. The menehune were pranksters. They are sometimes called &#8220;little people&#8221; &#8212; the same word they use in Ireland &#8212; because they&#8217;re supposed to be small, strong, mischievous, and only come out at night. They, too, are supposed to by mystical, minor deities, and also capable of reproducing with people, resulting in very blessed children.</p><p>The nightmarchers are different.  There is no doubt that these are ghosts who don&#8217;t really know they&#8217;re dead, per se.  They&#8217;re still making marches through the forest, and heaven forbid if you build your new home in the path of their marches.  Many people have head them and some have seen their flaming torches.</p><p>In fact, my dad, Bob Abraham, who spent many years digging deep into Hawaiian culture as a photographer, told me that he heard the nightmarchers one night. In fact, my dad had stories of many experiences with ghosts and spirits in Hawaii Nei.</p><p>Here are two good resources I have discovered about them both:</p><p><a
href="http://localism.com/blog/hi/posts/114727/Hawaiian-Legends-Nightmarchers-Menehune">Hawaiian Legends &#8211; Nightmarchers, Menehune, and the Tiki Gods</a></p><blockquote><p>By: Celeste &#8220;Sally&#8221; Cheeseman, Century 21 Liberty Homes, Mililani, HI 96789 (Localism.com Featured Article)</p><p>HAWAIIAN Spirits and Superstitions covered only a sliver of our Spirits and Superstions in Hawaii. Remember I mentioned that we had our home blessed because our home was in the path of the warriors marching? We will now embark on one Hawaiian legend, &#8230;.The Nightmarchers.</p><p>The Nightmarchers are the ghosts of ancient Hawaiian high ranking warriors. They say that they come forth during the night from their burial sites to march where they battled or march on to other sacred areas. It is said that if you live near their path of marching you will see their torches or hear the chanting, the marching and/or the drums beating faintly. Place ti plants or leaves around your house to keep away evil spirits and the &#8220;nightmarchers&#8221; to avoid the area as well. The most famous of these &#8220;marching&#8221; paths of the Nightmarcher&#8217;s is along the Pali where Kamehameha fought the last battle.</p><p>In Hawaii, the Menehune, are &#8220;little people&#8221; that stand two feet high. Similar to pixi&#8217;s or trolls the Menehune roam the deep forests at night. They are very strong and are master builders and said to accomplish many projects over night! There are many stories how they came to be in Hawaii. One version is that they were the first settlers in Hawaii that came from the descendants of the Marquesas Islanders and resided here between the years of 0-350 A.D. Supposedly, the &#8220;bigger people&#8221; from Tahiti came and the Menehune ran off into the caves in mountains and only came out at night for food.</p><p>My mother was born and raised on Kauai with her 7 sisters and 1 brother. Later on, one of my Auntie&#8217;s married and moved to Waimea Kauai. When my cousin and I were 10 and 11 our mom&#8217;s would let us go to Kauai to visit my Aunt and Uncle for the summer. She lived right on Menehune Road and at the end of the road was the &#8220;Menehune Ditch&#8221;. The high chief of Waimea, &#8220;Ola&#8221; received aid from the Menehune to divert water from the Waimea River to their taro patches and supposedly made this ancient acqueduct overnight!</p><p>Anyway, my cousin claimed she must be a Menehune as well because she was very short and tried to go in the passageway in the Menehune Ditch in the mountain&#8230;&#8230;I ran away afraid that something might happen! (The opening is in the picture to the right)</p></blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/menehune.html">Menehune by Hugh D. Mailly on  Encyclopedia Mythica</a></p><blockquote><p>The folklore of many nations around the world include stories of magical little people. The most famous of course, are the leprechauns of Ireland. In Hawaii, it is the mischievous Menehune who are said to haunt the deep forests or the mountains of Pu&#8217;ukapele (&#8220;Hills of Pele&#8221;). They come out mostly at night to play tricks on people, or to serve them if they feel that way inclined.</p><p>The mythology of the Menehune is as old as the beginnings of Polynesian history. Some say that the great god Maui himself, was one of the tiny creatures. When the first Polynesians arrived in Hawaii, they found dams, fish-ponds, and even Heiaus (temples), all presumably built by the Menehune who were already there, living in caves.</p><p>The creatures are said to be about two feet high, although some have been seen as small as six inches, capable of fitting in the palm of someone&#8217;s hand. They are always naked, but the long straight hair that falls to their knees keeps them warm and discreet. Apparently no two of them are the same, and they can be so moody as to be malicious and dangerous one day, and simply harmless the next. But they are always tricky, and therefore should be avoided, unless a special favor is absolutely needed of them.</p><p>In the old times, some Hawaiians married Menehune girls, who were said to be quite fair, but needed to be shown how to make a fire and eat cooked food, because their own diet consisted only of starchy raw vegetables. The services of Menehune expert builders and craftsmen can be requested. This is especially so, if you can trace your family tree back to one of them. They then act like benevolent godparents. Many a major project, such as the preparation of a wedding feast, has been completed in a single night by the super strong little gods, while all humans slept.</p><p>Menehune are afraid of owls. On the island of Kauai, the Menehune sometimes sneak in among the people there and pull too many tricks. That is when the owl god of Paupueo (owl hill) summons all the owls of Kauai to chase the Menehune back into the forest.</p><p>The little ones are fond of dancing, and singing, and of sports, such as shooting arrows. Sometimes they use magic arrows, to pierce the heart of angry persons, and make them feel love instead. They also truly enjoy diving off cliffs into the surf. If you hear splashes in the night at Kaanapali, it is possibly a Menehune diving off Black Rock! But you would have to move impossibly quick to ever see one.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-147">Palin = MORON</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://sogetthis.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 12:58.</div><div><p>Only  a complete moron would vote for a Republican after the past 8 years of  idiocy. McCain is a Bush croney and Palin is just an idiot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/147">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-146"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-146">reply to KB in IA</a></div><div> Submitted by ab (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 08:52.</div><div><p>KB,<br
/> Sorry, I don&#8217;t usually reply to these remarks, but I couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;&#8230;..<br
/> What message of &#8220;hate&#8221; are you talking about?<br
/> If someone doesn&#8217;t agree with your worldview, that doesn&#8217;t<br
/> mean they hate. Where is your tolerance?<br
/> AB</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/146">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-145"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-145">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Walter Arndt (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 22:23.</div><div><p>Only a person with his head in the sand would vote for a democrat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/145">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-144"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-144">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by KB in IA (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 21:54.</div><div><p>Things  might get interesting soon, since the Alaska Supreme Court said today  that the investigation known as Troopergate could proceed, dashing the  hopes of the McCain/Palin campaign to stonewall it until after the  election (article at <a
href="http://www.adn.com" title="www.adn.com">www.adn.com</a>).  Amazing that someone CURRENTLY under investigation for misuse of public  office, could be stirring up crowds with a message of hate.  Mind-boggling that someone who had to attend 5 or 6 different colleges  before getting a degree in journalism, can try to make a bogeyman out  of someone who graduated with honors from Harvard Law. I hope Alaska  gets their Governor back soon&#8230;if they even want her back.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/144">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-143"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-143">Re: Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 18:06.</div><div><p>Are  you as crazy as she is? It IS the republican party that has messed up  this Country over the last 8 yrs. We may not get out of this mess we  are in. Take your head out of the sand. Obama IS the best selection  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-142"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-142">Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by  Leo (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 17:17.</div><div><p>Mrs.  Palin is much more qualified to be President than Obama who has done  absolutely nothing but organize thugs in ACORN! She could save this  Country from Socialism and all the corruption the Democrats are up to.  He is not capable of telling the truth and Hollywood and the Media are  doing their best to cover for him. He is not qualified to be a Senator  and should be on trial for treason.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-141"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-141">Pailin </a></div><div> Submitted by GE Mayer (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 16:53.</div><div><p>Not  only is Palin not qualified to be Vice President much less President, I  am incensed, that John McCain would insult my intellegence by picking  such a &#8220;newby&#8221; above several well qualified, experienced women who have  served the country and the Republican party.<br
/> I expect my Comander in Chief to Carefully sellect an individual more  qualified than him/herself to take over. It shows John&#8217;s thinking.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-140"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-140">Palin?  Presidential material?  No, doggone it!</a></div><div> Submitted by Krissi (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:35.</div><div><p>While  I admire Sarah Palin&#8217;s spunk and determination, I think that she is  completely out of her league as not only a vice president but also a  president. If people would take a good look at her record, they&#8217;d see  that she doesn&#8217;t even have a good grasp of the issues.</p><p>In addition, she&#8217;s been caught in numerous lies and distortions. For  example, she did not sell a jet on eBay &#8212; she tried but failed; the  jet was sold later to a private buyer. She did not leave the town of  Wasilla financially sound; she left it in debt. She says she;ll be a  strong supporter of kids with needs. In truth, Palin actually slashed  funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%.</p><p>And her famous, &#8220;I told the Congress &#8220;thanks, but no thanks,&#8221; for  that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we&#8217;d build it  ourselves&#8221; line? More spin. Congress&#8217; requirement that funds be spent  on that bridge (aka the &#8216;earmark&#8217;) were removed before Sarah Palin  became governor. She was, therefore, in no position to tell Congress  anything about the bridge, one way or the other. During her campaign,  she said she supported funding for the bridge.</p><p>There are more examples, of the fibs and many examples of her poor  insight into our nation&#8217;s problems. I could list them all, but I  encourage you to do your own homework (forwarded emails DO NO COUNT)!</p><p>If MCCain and Palin win this election, I&#8217;ll probably be hoping for a lengthy, overseas assignment &#8212; maybe four years or more!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/140">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-139"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-139">Palin is Failin</a></div><div> Submitted by GA for Brains in the White House (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:02.</div><div><p>W &#8211; below C student<br
/> McCain &#8211; at the bottom of his class<br
/> Are we really electing the best? Shouldn&#8217;t we elect someone better than  we are? And someone not ready for the assisted living home? Someone who  can remember the name of his opponent instead of calling him &#8220;that  one&#8221;. McCain left right away after the debate &#8211; seniors do go to bed  early, probably past his bedtime. As for integrity, check out McCain&#8217;s  involvement in the S&#038;L bailout, he was right there along side W&#8217;s  brother Neil. All working to steal investors&#8217; money. Just like King  Henry is doing now, rewarding his Wall St. buddies.</p><p><strong>And we wonder why this happens to us???</strong></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-138"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-138">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Ed Sherrill (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 10:49.</div><div><p>Not  only is Sarah Palin competent to become President, she is idealogically  and tempermentally better suited to be President than John McCain.  Republicans are going to be very sorry thet chose McCain over Mitt  Romney. I only pray the Democrates don&#8217;t screw up the country so bad  over the next four years that it can&#8217;t be fixed.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-136"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-136">Is she for real?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 22:13.</div><div><p>If  Joe Biden winked at the camera 5-6 times during the debate, wouldn&#8217;t we  be calling him a pervert? Come on people, get serious. Sarah Palin is a  joke &#8212; an embarrassment to Americans who take our politics &#8212; and the  plight of our country &#8212; seriously.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-134"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-134">Is Sarah Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.selfhelpdaily.com" rel="nofollow">Joi</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:34.</div><div><p>To  be sure, Sarah Palin doesn&#8217;t deserve the crucifixion the media and  entertainment world are giving her (and her family). McCain might  deserve some of it, after all &#8211; he picked her. Why? She&#8217;s female. I  admire the man completely &#8211; he is an American hero and I can&#8217;t even  begin to imagine the hell this brave man endured.</p><p>However, when it came to choose running mates, I belive Obama chose  one that was best for the country and McCain chose one (he thought) was  best for the campaign.</p><p>I THINK that he lost the race with his choice.  I KNOW he lost my vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-133"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-133">Surprising VP choice</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">olivier blanchard</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:30.</div><div><p>Hindsight  is always 20/20. Perhaps Gov. Palin&#8217;s weaknesses weren&#8217;t 100% obvious  to Sen. McCain when he picked her. (So much for due diligence, I  guess.) Did he want a dynamic, charismatic, family-friendly VP  running-mate? Of course. And she fit the bill&#8230; on the surface, at  least. But honestly, weren&#8217;t there better choices (male or female) for  the job? Competent, charismatic, appealing, worldly Republican  governors or senators? People he actually knows and trusts? 30 years in  politics, and he can&#8217;t think of a single person he has worked with who  would be a better choice for a running mate? He goes with a complete  stranger? I find that bizarre. Irresponsible, even. I just don&#8217;t get  it. There are plenty of smart, competent, experienced women in the  Republican Party who would have made a great running mate.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-132">Don&#8217;t confuse appeal with competence</a></div><div> Submitted by DBStevens (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 12:21.</div><div><p>Too  many people in this country confuse personal appeal with competence,  and make decisions based on who&#8217;s the most charming or even who&#8217;s  sexiest. Or they make decisions based on generalities such as &#8220;we need  a woman in the White House.&#8221; A COMPETENT woman in the White House would  be a great asset to this country. There is no doubt of that.</p><p>But we can&#8217;t decide the leaders of our country based on a visceral  reaction to her charm and folksy demeanor (there is a lot of doubt as  to the sincerity of that demeanor anyway&#8230;she shows signs of being  rather ruthless). During these times of uncertainty and fear, it&#8217;s  natural to want some comfort, to feel that the person leading our  country is down-to-earth and &#8220;real.&#8217; We felt good about Bush and people  like Rudy Guiliani for a short time right after 9/11. They appealed to  our emotions and need for reassurance. But that demeanor means nothing.  It&#8217;s the actions that matter, and in the time following 9/11, both Bush  and Guiliani&#8217;s true nature was revealed&#8230; incompetence and  self-serving.</p><p>Sarah Palin acts cute and has a pretty face. That&#8217;s perfect for  president of the PTA. But has not gained enough experience to be  president of a country. The job of Vice-President or President is NOT  an &#8220;on-the-job-training&#8221; type of job. Being Mayor of a tiny town in a  remote state, then Governer of that remote, sparsely populated state  (670,000, way smaller than a city like El Paso, TX) is not enough  experience to lead a country whose every move has global implications.  Palin treated the job of Governer like a telecommuting job, she worked  form her hown home for 86% of the year.</p><p>No matter how intelligent she may seem to be, no matter how  ambitious or driven she may seem, and ESPECIALLY no matter how pretty  or charming she is, she is not ready for the responsibilities of a job  like President. Without experience, without having the time to really  begin to understand the nature of national and global dealings on every  level, no matter how much coaching or guidance she would receive, Palin  would either crumble under pressure or make very bad decisions with  repercussions that could shake this country and its international  stature to the core. Or she wouldn&#8217;t act quickly enough at  all&#8230;stalling and deflecting decisions (as she does with many  questions, or with such events as the investigation dubbeed  &#8220;Troopergate&#8221;).</p><p>I also worry about the demands of her family. During times of her  family&#8217;s need, do we want someone faced with the dilemma of either  neglecting her family&#8217;s needs because of her duties as Vice-President,  or neglecting the VP duties because of her family&#8217;s needs? Neither of  those are good choices&#8230;.Sarah Palin has too many personal  responsibilities.</p><p>Palin also shows all the signs of behavior very similar to  Bush&#8217;s&#8230;including a tendency toward cronyism, abuse of power, and  self-serving decisions that flout the law.</p><p>She even mispronounces the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221; just like Bush. Certainly  that&#8217;s a small point, and that pronunciation is commonly recognized as  a sub-standard metathesis of the word, but it&#8217;s very annoying to listen  to.</p><p>So wake up American. Move your responses from your gut to your  brains, and make sure you understand the repercussions of your vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-131">I&#8217;m moving&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.andyosier.com" rel="nofollow">Andy Osier</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 10:15.</div><div><p>John  McCain himself isn&#8217;t capable of running the country; I shudder to think  of the train wreck a Palin administration would be. If they win, I&#8217;m  seriously considering a moving. How&#8217;s the January weather in Berlin,  Chris?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-130">Big State&#8230;&#8230;little experience!</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/126" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 18:11.</div><div><p>Granted, we&#8217;ve got plenty to worry about at home!<br
/> But we&#8217;re talking about a Governor of a state bordered by 2 foreign  countries, Palin is the proud NEW owner of a passport! (barely 1 year)<br
/> The world is smaller than ever and so is our standing in it. We don&#8217;t  need &#8220;a little Wasilla in Washington&#8221;. We already have a narrow minded  view of the world with our current administration.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-129">Palin for presidnet?</a></div><div> Submitted by Joyce (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>She  would call on the brightest brains in the Republican party, put them in  positions of power and support, and do her best to do the best she  could for her country. She&#8217;s an acheiver and would never accept failure  for herself. She has Condeleesa, Romneys, Huckabees and several others  who want to serve and members to help and advise her. Her history shows  that she uses support and advise to guide her towards her goals and  accomplishments. She would take the credit for it too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-128">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Allison (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:10.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-127">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:08.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-126">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:47.</div><div><p>She didn&#8217;t ride in on her &#8220;own merits&#8221; She rode in on her SEX. PERIOD.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-125">If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by RisingFromDecadence (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:17.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  the most frightening and compelling reason to not elect McCain to date.  It&#8217; clear that the choice was to win vs. what&#8217;s right for the country.  And it saddens me that with so many strong female candidates out there  McCain has landed on this choice. It speaks volumes of his lack of  sound judgement and doesn&#8217;t do justice to the feminist movement.</p><p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with &#8220;Double Standard&#8217;s&#8221; comments about  education, and intelligence vs. the &#8220;experience&#8221; of a low-population  governor. Has it somehow become a negative trait for our president to  be articulate well educated and even published?</p><p>I think its safe to now say, like every great civilization, America  has grown from it&#8217;s indestructible, can-do &#8220;adolescence,&#8221; and has  entered it&#8217;s &#8220;decadent&#8221; period of greed, fear, fat and a lack of clear  vision. America needs a president who will bring intelligence, a new  vision, and optimism so that we don&#8217;t lose the real values we&#8217;ve grown  up to believe are American such as truth, innovation, compassion,  charity and vision.</p><p>Our values as a nation should not be confused with same sex  marriages or religious agendas. I seem to remember from my grade school  social studies classes that America was born as a nation with the  purpose and promise of many freedoms. Personal choice values are not to  be mixed with National values. Growing up, this difference has been why  I&#8217;ve been so proud to be an American. In the last 8 years much has  changed. I believe that only with the leadership of Obama will we be  able to regain our credibility and our course as a nation. Most  importantly, America could be &#8220;Proud Again.&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-124">Answer the question</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ascannerbrightly.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jaz-Michael King</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 10:40.</div><div><p>As  an unbiased, unable-to-vote immigrant, can I point out that as usual,  from either of your minimalist two sides, when the question is simply  If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be  competent to be President?&#8221;, the arguments spin off to why the opponent  isn&#8217;t. Maybe that will be the next question, but like I wanted to yell  at Palin while watching the debate&#8230; answer the question posed to you.</p><p>Everyone has their weak points, and in some respects, Obama, who has  considerably more than two years in the US Senate as his experience (he  was a state senator, you know) has plenty. However, I think there&#8217;s a  good reason hockey moms and joe sixpacks don&#8217;t run. No-one wants  regular folk in charge. You all want a ruling elite no matter how much  you profess to the contrary.</p><p>There are plenty of strong, competent women on both sides of the aisle in the USA. Gov. Palin is not one of them.</p><p>She is not qualified because she is not qualified. Being as  unqualified as anyone you wish to compare her to does not make her  qualified. Her inabilty to answer a straight question makes her  unqualified. I personally believe the fact she is the kind of person  who can compete in a beauty contest makes her unqualified. And as of  today, her assertion that Obama&#8217;s political career started off in the  living room of a terrorist (all of a sudden, he&#8217;s been a politician a  lot longer than two years according to the Republicans) has pulled her  from the absurd to the surreal.</p><p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Obama seems to pander to some vaporous &#8220;change&#8221; mentality, but that wasn&#8217;t the question.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-123">Palin Unqualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous jones (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 09:16.</div><div><p>The  difference between Obama and Palin is that Obama thinks. He&#8217;s smart  enough to go to Harvard, graduate high enough in his class to be  president of the Harvard Law Review there. He&#8217;s a thinker who doesn&#8217;t  shoot from the hip. He knows the Constitution inside and out and knows  if something is just a whim to increase his own power compared to a  great idea which would help millions of people (think fairer taxes,  health insurance coverage). Palin bankrupted Wasilla which is now 23.5  MILLION dollars in debt. She has no idea of what real issues are out  there&#8212;she doesn&#8217;t have any idea of what to do in a financial  situation, a diplomatic situation or anything beyond her own home. She  shows no compassion for others who are not in her situation (religious,  financial, educational, political) and has no international experience.  We do not need another DOPE in the White House. McCain has shown very  poor judgment in choosing an under-educated (a BA is like a high school  degree these days) fool rather than a smart, intellectually  sophisticated worthy VP candidate. This is a sellout of the Democratic  process. Such a shame. But then again, McCain graduated at the bottom  of his class (894 out of 899), so what does he want with a smart second?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-122">Just because she could, does not mean she should.</a></div><div> Submitted by Bjshazam (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:34.</div><div><p>Does  it not trouble anyone who has been posting here that we have reached  this point at all? I&#8217;ve been writing draft after draft of posts here,  trying to find the right balance that won&#8217;t come across as too  ideological, or that won&#8217;t be automatically dismissed by the true  sycophants because it contains some Left or Right code word that  justifies their turning off of the brain. Can&#8217;t do it. She&#8217;s too  dangerous, and it angers me so much that we as a country have been put  in the position of having to opine about the staggering impropriety of  her selection as McCain&#8217;s running mate.</p><p>Consider:</p><p>My brother is a great guy. Smart as a whip, with what I think is  decent judgment (except for his love of the Yankees). I trust him  implicitly. So, should I be in a position to name him to, say, the  Supreme Court, I would expect no questions from anyone about his  qualifications. According to the Constitution, he is legally qualified  to be a Justice, even the Chief Justice. I already told you he is smart  and has good judgment. What else do you need to know? How dare you  question my choice or his desire to serve?</p><p>The President of the United States has a mind bogglingly huge amount  of discretion in executing the job. The president can, without  obstruction by court or Congress, lay waste to our financial system,  impede entirely the execution of justice, or unleash Armageddon. The  office of the president can disband virtually unilaterally the entirety  of the intelligence gathering power of the U.S., or focus it all on the  least secure among us &#8212; with no recourse by anyone.</p><p>Most of the time, this isn&#8217;t an issue. Regardless of your political  persuasion, we have been blessed mostly with chief executives that took  the burdens of job dead seriously. A president of the entire country,  not just those who cast the votes.</p><p>Now the bar has been set so low that we cannot figure out the right  words to describe how wrong it is for a candidate to relish the fact  that she really doesn&#8217;t understand the job the Constitution has laid  out. That this is somehow an asset to a campaign makes me ashamed for  my country.</p><p>That John McCain affirmatively foisted this train wreck upon his own  party, and possibly upon the country, is a sin for which he should  never be forgiven.</p><p>That she is considered by some to be the next face of the GOP, and a  real contender for the nomination next time around, should make my GOP  colleagues shudder and the nation weep.</p><p>I don&#8217;t want a hockey mom or joe six-pack running the country. Hell,  I don&#8217;t want anyone like me running the country. I want a president.  And she is not it.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-121">make that Palin UNQUALIFIED PERIOD</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:25.</div><div><p>Darn, brain outrunning my fingers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-120">Palin qualified period</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:22.</div><div><p>And  the mental midgets who are using that as a ruse to comment on Obama  miss the entire point. Biden IS qualified to fill in shoudl something  happen to Obama (go to smoking gun to see why that IS an issue).</p><p>Palin is a bimbo and if you do not think so, Palin supporters, then  take this simple acid test: were it Obama who made those brain dead  comments instead of Palin, what would you be saying about him? Gotcha!</p><p>jim</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-119">Palin Not Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:01.</div><div><p>Anyone  that believes that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President is kidding  themselves. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. The  fact that she is SO unqualified is what made her pick an insult to  every hard-working, intelligent woman out there. She was picked for her  good looks and her folksy charm. There were MANY more qualified women  in the ranks of the Republican party that could have been chosen.<br
/> Palin attended five different colleges before she was finally able to  stick out a degree program. She majored in journalism and  communications and couldn&#8217;t name ONE newspaper or magazine that she  reads on a regular basis. She minored in political science and doesn&#8217;t  know what the Vice President&#8217;s role and duties are in our government.  She has abused her power in every political post she has been elected  to, has lied about her record both as mayor and governor and her short  political career has been marked by scandal. She says that she fought  the energy interests in Alaska, but her campaigns have all been heavily  funded by energy companies.<br
/> In short, she&#8217;s not smart, she&#8217;s lacks integrity, she has gotten most  of what she has attained on her looks and charm and these things don&#8217;t  add up to someone who is qualified for Vice President, nevermind the  Presidency. If you want her to be your leader, move to Alaska. This  country and the world cannot afford another incompetent leader at the  helm. One more bumbling idiot at the helm will spell doom for the  future of all of the citizens of this country.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-118">qualifications.</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Crazy Politico</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 20:10.</div><div><p>If Gov. Palin isn&#8217;t qualified to &#8220;POSSIBLY&#8221; become president, then what of Barack Obama?</p><p>What exactly is his qualification for the job? A couple of  non-descript years in the Senate with no major legislation to show for  that time? A history of voting &#8220;Here&#8221; on controversial issues so as to  keep a rather neutral record when running for the next higher office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-117">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 14:49.</div><div><p>Does  she have enough political experience for the position of president? I  would say not&#8230;.. but then again, there&#8217;s nothing like a long run of a  president that can&#8217;t even string a sentence together in English to  remind you that you don&#8217;t really need much skill for the job. It&#8217;s  whose behind the president that counts no?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-116">Is Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by Thoughtful_Independent (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 11:49.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  a registered independent. I was waiting for the VP picks to be made  before making my mind up. VP&#8217;s Gore and Cheney have both illustrated  the growing importance of the VP position in the Executive Branch. The  magnitude of the nations and worlds problems highlight the fact that  the top two elected officials in the US need to have a wide range of  capabilities., strong intellect, and global perspective. At minimum,  the President needs a knowledgeable confidant and advisor he/she can  trust.</p><p>For all of her folksy charm, Governor Palin displays very little of  these qualities or qualifications. If you take the time to investigate  the educational and professional accomplishments of our sitting VP&#8217;s  over the past 50 years, even the most biased observer would conclude  that Governor Palin would be the least educated and least experienced.  If you don&#8217;t have the time to look at all of them, just compare her  against Dan Quayle who was arguably the weakest of the sitting VP&#8217;s.  Quayle&#8217;s accomplishments at the time he was selected as Bush&#8217;s running  mate dwarf Palin&#8217;s.</p><p>Upon inspection, the rabid and exaggerated claims about her energy  expertise and executive experience vaporize (the claims of foreign  policy experience are not even a valid topic). Living in an oil rich  state, shuffling petrodollars from the oil companies to the citizens in  the form of dividends, &#8220;negotiating&#8221; potential terms of a yet unplanned  and unfunded natural gas pipeline, and a college degree in journalism  do not qualify one as an energy expert.</p><p>Furthermore, the role of Governor of Alaska is diminished in  complexity compared to the Governors of the lower 48 due to factors  such as: 1) very small population (the whole state has a population  smaller than typical medium sized US cities), 2) the largest Alaskan  cities are smaller than many small ciities or large towns in the lower  48 (Anchorage = ~280K, Fairbanks = ~35K, Juneau = ~35K), 3) low  industrial output (Alaska is ranked near the bottom compared to the  other 50 states), and 4) a budget which is majority funded by revenues  from oil and gas companies. The hardest problem of the Alaskan governor  appears to be deciding how much money to send from the Permanent Fund  to the citizens versus how much to stash away for a future time when  oil revenues begin declining.</p><p>I find the argument that Palin has more &#8220;executive experience&#8221; than  McCain, Obama or Biden to be disingenuous. If executive experience is  really so important, Mitt Romney should be the Republican candidate for  President or, at minimum, the VP candidate. While I was not a huge fan  of Mr. Romney, his skillset is so superior to Palin&#8217;s that comparisons  are impossible. The same can be said with respect to experience in  matters of the economy. Ironically, Mr. Romney&#8217;s biggest shortcoming  appeared to be that he was a Washington outsider. Now being from our  most remote state is a strength for Palin?</p><p>My perspective is that the most successful Presidents of the last 50  years (for arguments sake Eisenhower, Reagan and Clinton) were able to  balance their core idealogical positions with advocacy for programs and  policies that improved the situation for the majority of US citizens  and improved our stature in the global community. Each of these  Presidents had well educated and highly skilled running mates. As an  Independent who holds a blend of conservative and liberal positions,  this mix is what I am weighing the most. My assessment is that  Obama/Biden have a better overall leadership/intelligence/world view  profile than McCain/Palin. McCain could have selected a male or female  running mate who would have tilted my assessment in his favor.  Unfortunately, for reasons only he and his advisors can comprehend, he  went with a female ideologue with weak academic, intellectual and  professional skills.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-115">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 06:15.</div><div><p>@  CanIGet2NewZealand</p><p>What does it take to satisfy people like you?<br
/> or&#8230; is this a display of jealousy ? Ms Palin does make a rather  impressive appearance on a simple &#8216;ride in from the Wilds of Alaska&#8217;.<br
/> Instead of complimenting a person on a job well done you prefer to show the &#8220;cat fight&#8221; attitude.<br
/> What has Obama more than Palin?</p><p>If Obama had been a white boy from Illinois, would he have received  the nomination of the Dem Party? If your answer is NO _ then you must  vote for Palin for she rode in on her own merits not on her skin color!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-114">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb" rel="nofollow">REB 84</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 00:35.</div><div><p>Would John McCain be a competent president?  This is a question you should be asking.<br
/> <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb/2008/09/which-is-real-mccain.html"> QuestionItNow &#8211; Will America lead?</a></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-113">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by CanIGet2NewZealand (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Palin has been governor of a state with the population of Poughkeepsie, New York .</p><p>The State of Alaska, despite its conservative appearance has been  giving out money to its citizens from its oil dividens (Alaska  Permanent Fund) (<a
href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style" title="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style">http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style</a>)  since the 1970&#8242;s. The money Palin boasts about giving her citizens is  money of this sort, the citizens of Alaska have been receiving these  payments for almost 40 years. How can she use these payments as part of  a discussion of her fiscal capabilities as Governor?</p><p>Governor Palin impresses me as being a cross between a Barbie Doll  and that really annoying head cheerleader that the intelligent girls  all could not stand in highschool.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-112">Palin was a mistake for McCain in the 1st Place</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/people/FranklinB?view=documents&#038;viewingAsOthers=true" rel="nofollow">FranklinB</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>I  have been publishing my thoughts on this matter for awhile now  regarding the selection of Sarah Palin for VP. I gave my views on her  initial selection here:</p><p>Did John McCain have good judgement?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is not my Vice President<br
/> <a
href="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179" title="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179">http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is just another pretty face<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323</a></p><p>McCain will have to pick a new VP<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699</a></p><p>VP Debate was great, for Biden and Obama<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625</a></p><p>Overall I agree that McCain is kind of a maverick, but also he is a  big gambler. Instead of picking one of the most qualified in the arena,  he went outside to a relatively unknown woman who he knew could  energize the base. That has happened, but with such obvious liabilities  that only a pure conservative will think she is qualified, because pure  conservatives don&#8217;t care who is in that position as long as that person  is republican, conservative and can walk &#038; talk. Hannity has said  publicly that he believes she would be qualified to fill the top job,  and so did Limbaugh as well. I got yelled at the other day by one of my  very oldest and best friends who couldn&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t think she  was for real. That was before the Couric interview. Now after the  debate I know I have made the right choice with Obama and Biden. The  financial collapse is bad enough, but if there was a President Palin  someday, it could be an even worse disaster for our country.</p><p>Obama and Biden are consistant in their positions on the Iraq war  and other matters regarding the need to help the middle class. I  believe McCain has no interest in the working class folks in this  country, and even if Palin does have that interest, she is not  knowledgeable enough to make any difference. JMHO</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-111">You&#8217;re Kidding, right?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://onthebloc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Shelly Roberts</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 14:04.</div><div><p>Sarah  Pallin is an embarrassment to the Republican Party, who may well be  qualified to run for PTA vice president, but hardly for the  heart-beat-away position of Vice President of the United States.</p><p>In the debate with Sen. Bieden Palin spoke repeatedly an d stiltedly  from obviousy drilled-in talking points rather than from any  appropriate knowledge. With a wooden, albeit cheerful presentation  worthy of earning her the title of Best Stepford Candidate.</p><p>Palin&#8217;s presentation was a constant one-note, praise-singing  golly/gee campaign advertiisement for John McCain, and did litttle if  anything to present any viable credentials as a candidate for the high  office into which she has been so thoughtlessly thrust.</p><p>I&#8217;d pity her for the position for which she has been recruited if  the holder of that position didn&#8217;t stand such a strong chance of  becoming the leader of the free world with a 79 year old unhealthy  running mate &#8211;shudder&#8211; a horrifying thought.</p><p>It shouldn&#8217;t be enough merely that she didn&#8217;t panic, screw up or cry  to qualify her as even a contender in the so-called debate. I have some  issues with Mr. Bidden as well, but at least he came across as someone  who has done more than simply look west and north in the direction of  the former Soviet Union, and self-pronounce a competency in foreign  affairs. That&#8217;s way too much like watching Animal Planet and  proclaiming veterinary competence with elephants.</p><p>Did Sarah win the debate?  She wasn&#8217;t ever even qualified to enter the race.</p><p>Is she qualified to be President regardless of the state of John McCain&#8217;s health?  You&#8217;re kidding, right?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-110">Dummy be gone! THINK!</a></div><div> Submitted by Skillet Marimba (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 11:27.</div><div><p>The G.O.P. targets DUMMYS but DUMMYS are finally starting to wake up. Dummy be gone.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-108">If McCain Died, Is Sarah Palin Qualified To Lead This Nation?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://legalconsulting.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obama-biden-a-winning-ticketbut-obama-clinton-a-landslide-victory/" rel="nofollow">Patrick Pearce</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:33.</div><div><p>Let  me first establish that I am not hopping on any band waggon here to  vilify or demonize Sarah Palin because she is a woman. My argument is  limited to choice. Based on both Vice Presidential Candidates, Sarah  Palin and Joe Biden of the Republican and Democratic Party  respectively, should one of these men (Whether Obama or McCain) died or  become incapacitated as President of the United States, and  constitutionally the Vice President is next in line to assume the  presidency, I unequivocally would trust the experience of Joe Biden to  lead this great Nation over Sarah Palin. I am sure I share the same  views as most sensible Americans. I used to hear that John McCain was a  stubborn man, I am now convinced. There are so many more experience and  viable Republicans out there to be VP, why did he chose Sarah Palin? If  only some of these potentially great men would listen to somebody  instead of arrogating to themselves because of ego, they would be such  great leaders. Obama-Biden victory in November, hands down! See my  recent post at: <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-107">Palin Better than Most</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thescoundrel.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">thescoundrel</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:21.</div><div><p>I  tend to disbelieve anything that comes out of any politicians mouth.  Politicians are liars&#038; cheats. While they are kissing your baby  they are picking your pocket at the same time. The President&#8217;s Job is  limited. The Congress is where most of the power in this country lies.  They make legislation, they pass legislation and even if the President  vetoes that legislation, they have the power to override it. A relative  rookie politician, Palin, actually has more executive experience than  McCain, Biden or Obama. Now that is scary since she is merely a VP  nominee. I would vote for her over Obama or Biden. She has a limited  track track record of what Obama/Biden pretends to have without any  track record to prove their claims: Palin has shown the grit to fight  her own party as governor of Alaska. Obama has shown me nothing for the  time he was in my state of Illinois government or once he was elected  Senator. He was no more than a puppet to Emile Jones that is the strong  arm thug of DEmocrat Gov. Governor Blagodabitch, the soon to be cell  mate of ex Republican Gov. George Ryan. So yeah I would trust Palin  much further than I would Obama leading this nation. Obama only  understands Chicago and Springfield style corruption which he was a  part of.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-106">If John McCain died&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Pat Baker (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 08:21.</div><div><p>To Anonymous:<br
/> I have been hollering &#8220;Double Standard&#8221; all summer&#8221;. You hit the nail  on the spot. When Obama was trained by the late great Saul Alinsky  &#038; his staff to learn how to be a better community activist, take  surveys, housing problems, school problems in the poor Chicago  districts, Palin sneered at the his outcomings, stating all those  programs arenow defunct. Her ignorance is bliss. Reason: Viet Nam war,  &#038; the 60&#8242;s riots cost us plenty At least Obama was vetted. Some  pundits t laughed him. I too, was trained by Alinsky, this great Jewish  community consultant for the poor back in the late 60&#8242;s. If Palin was  crossed examined by a Judge/Atty she would simply say I will only  answer the questions I wish to reply to. My people call it &#8220;double  standard&#8221;. Thanks, Anonymous for reminding me that I don&#8217;t need on the  job training vp by McCain/Palin ticket.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-104">my vote</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.squidoo.com/leanandripped" rel="nofollow">joe</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:35.</div><div><p>Ihave  no faith or trust in any politition, democrat or republican, they all  end up shafting the middle class in the end,She will be no better or  worse than the rest of the lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-103">This Election is More Irritating than Usual</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:26.</div><div><p>Why  do people feel someone who has been a Senator for 2 years is more  qualified to be President than in the unlikely event McCain has to be  replaced by Govenor Palin??? The other thing that keeps being over  looked is Nancy Pelosi has been two heartbeats away from President??  She is qualified?? Unfortunately, people are being too influenced by  the media and not doing there own research. Quit using the medias  opinions and form your own. Do some real research. Somethinf fun to do  is go to <a
href="http://abcnews.go.com/politics" title="http://abcnews.go.com/politics">http://abcnews.go.com/politics</a> scroll down to the Match-o-Matic II  game.  It is ver interesting.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-102">Does Being Governor Make Governor Palin Qalified?</a></div><div> Submitted by artbcpa (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 01:54.</div><div><p>In  &#8220;Third Out of Four&#8221; the commentator points out that Clinton and Reagan  were both Governors before becoming President. We shouldn&#8217;t forget that  Jimmy Carter was also a Governor before becoming the most incompetent  president in the history of the United Staetes. He also may have been  among the academically brightest of all recent Presidents. What does  all that tell us?. &#8230;NOTHING.</p><p>Whether Sarah Palin was a Governor or Barack Obama was at the top of  his academic class does not ensure that either will or will not do a  good job in their respective positions.</p><p>We need to make our decision based on factors more likely to lead to  a successful Presidency. After eight years of the most secretive,  nontransparent Presidency in history, we need someone who will instill  trust in the institution of the Presidency and restore confidence in  the people of the country.</p><p>We had several such Presidents in the prior century &#8211; Franklin  Roosevelt, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan. Each had a vision for the  country which was clearly articulated and embraced by the people. In a  choice between the idealistic Barack Obama and the wily curmudgeon,  John McCain, Barack Obama is clearly the choice of what this country  needs at this time in history.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-101">Palin is not our woman.</a></div><div> Submitted by Pam (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:59.</div><div><p>I  know that I do not want Palin. I know that I don’t want her anywhere  near our foreign policy. I know that I don’t like what she said in the  debate about ‘expanding’ the role of vice president. I know that I  don’t like her far right, religious views that can impact the world in  a bunch of ways that I don’t like.</p><p>There are other things I don’t like about her, though, I can’t say I  am completely sure about my reasoning. I don’t like her winks and her  nods. I don’t like how she talks to us like children.</p><p>I question my own opinion about these things, as I am not sure if I  know what I want or expect in a female politician. It’s a very  important thing. This first woman. This example of all of us. This  person in whom I place so much of my future and that of my daughters.  Hmmm, too much pressure?!?</p><p>Do I want her to be more of a man than any of the men at the table?  Competing in the same way as men, but climbing the ladder in stilettos?  Or do I want her to be the nurturing female that gets things done  without men being any the wiser? With charm and feminine wiles that  could will men to do what they might not have done, otherwise?</p><p>I thought, when considering Hillary, that I didn’t want a woman  President who had a husband that is a former President. My sister then  pointed out that we might not consider too many women that did not have  such a sense of the White House.</p><p>It’s difficult. These women, up for consideration, don’t have  military backgrounds. Yet, she would be responsible for ‘pushing the  button’ and/or ending a war.</p><p>I guess, even if I did not have a problem with her foreign presence,  her religious intent or her understanding of the role she was about to  take on, I would still have an issue to deal with.</p><p>So, I don’t like Sarah, but, who do I like?  And, the bigger question for me, why?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-100">Re: Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by FD (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:24.</div><div><p>To King of Chatalot: I&#8217;m an independant, but I voted once and the poll will not allow me to vote again.<br
/> The only way someone could vote twice is through a proxy, but I tested that idea fater reading your comment.<br
/> It didn&#8217;t work.<br
/> I tried several different proxies, I reset my ip, and nope, it would not allow me to vote again.</p><p>Take off the tin foil hat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-99">Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.chatalot.net" rel="nofollow">King of Chatalot</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 22:11.</div><div><p>I  find it amazing that Democrats would stoop so low as to make multiple  votes in this silly poll just to bend the outcome towards their way of  thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..so to make it appear as if they are the  winners&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>&#8230;but then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;considering that they will ultimately lose in November I&#8217;m not totally surprised&#8230;&#8230;..</p><p>&#8230;..merely amazed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-98">Palin&#8217;s hand on the &#8220;Nukular&#8221; button? </a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mediaconcepts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Media Concepts</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 21:39.</div><div><p>I  can&#8217;t decide whether that&#8217;s hilarious, or horrifyingly frightening. I  think it&#8217;s both. Based on McCain&#8217;s age alone, historian Doris Kearns  Goodwin says that there&#8217;s almost a one in three chance that McCain  would die in office were he to be elected. Factor in his FOUR bouts of  Melanoma, which is often fatal regardless of the victim&#8217;s age, and  those odds increase markedly.</p><p>Something to think about.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-97">It&#8217;s about leadership</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://politicalvindication.com" rel="nofollow">Shane from PV</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:30.</div><div><p>The  presidency is about leadership, and if we can survive eight years being  led by an Arkansas governor who would rather molest the hired help than  pay attention to what Osama Bin Laden is doing, then America will do  just fine with a President Sarah Palin. She certainly has more  leadership experience than her opponents. Does that mean I would have  made her my choice for VP? I would have loved to see Mitt Romney as VP,  but she&#8217;s smart, focused, and knows how to lead. The important  question, if she should ever end up in the Oval Office, would be who  she surrounds herself with. That&#8217;s another reason why Obama would be  very scary as president. He has terrible judgment, and considering the  people he has surrounded himself with throughout his life, and the fact  that as president he will have to decide what advice to act on when it  comes to important issues &#8211; I don&#8217;t trust him to be able to distinguish  from among a bevy of poor advisers the advice least damaging.</p><p>Obama supporters, like so many on this comment board, have no idea  who Obama really is &#8211; frankly, no one does. Obama has locked up his  records, is protected by a compliant press, and says only what he  thinks Americans want to hear. He&#8217;s a charlatan, but his supporters  don&#8217;t care. <em>That&#8217;s why this question is so ironic.</em> They hate  Bush/Republicans/conservatives more than they fear the inexperience of  their presidential candidate and manchild Barack Obama. The derangement  of the left has led them to support and oppose issues not because they  want to protect their country or improve the lives of Americans, but  because they hate their adversaries and will do or say anything to beat  them (the &#8220;this war is lost&#8221; quote by Harry Reid comes to mind &#8211; how  incredibly telling). I think this frothing derangement will cause them  to self-destruct again as they did in 2000 and 2004, where Americans  got a good look at the mindless bitterness and spite that inspires the  left. McCain will win in a squeaker.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-96">Palin is more qualified than most&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Greg (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:24.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a big political kind of guy nor do I follow many campaigns. I voted  for a democrat and a republican for president; the best person for the  job always gets my vote. But this is the first time in a long time that  I&#8217;ve seen an honest person make it this far in politics. Usually they  get creamed by the media &#8211; Palin is still holding her own. What you see  is what you get &#8211; nice change of pace especially since I&#8217;m originally  from Delaware. No doubt this isn&#8217;t true for Biden &#8211; he&#8217;s all over the  place telling you whatever it is you want to hear whenever you want to  hear it.. I don&#8217;t dislike Biden and yes, he is qualified to continue  the same old Washington politics; not what I&#8217;m looking for this year at  least.</p><p>I&#8217;m still wondering why Obama thinks Biden represents change? Not even close.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-95">Sarah Palin&#8217;s much sharper than Obama or Biden</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.morethings.com" rel="nofollow">Al Barger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:08.</div><div><p>Not  to put too fine a point on it, Sarah Palin&#8217;s the sharpest person of the  four here. People I think get that when they get a good look at her as  in her famous nomination speech or last night&#8217;s vice presidential  debate.</p><p>Of course, this ain&#8217;t from lack of media attempts to Quayle-ize her.  Look at the double, triple, quadruple standards. It&#8217;s supposedly some  proof that she&#8217;s a moron that she didn&#8217;t choose to spit up a list of  newspapers she reads for Katie Couric.</p><p>But Joe Biden says the most ignorant nonsense day after day, and it  doesn&#8217;t make the news. When the current financial meltdown started a  few weeks ago, Biden was out criticizing Bush reaction. See, when the  1929 market crash happened, FDR when on television to show people that  he was involved and doing something. FDR wasn&#8217;t president, and there  was no television then. This nonsense didn&#8217;t make the news. Imagine if  Palin said something that stupid.<br
/> =====================================<br
/> Little known Palin fact:<br
/> FACT: Having run out of ammunition during a hunting trip, Sarah Palin  once took down a moose using a beauty pageant tiara as a boomerang.</p><p>More Palin fun facts I just made up, and a couple hundred pictures of our girl<br
/> <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-94">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Robert (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:00.</div><div><p>Joe Biden, VP  (Vice and Plagiarist)</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-93">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ethel W (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:50.</div><div><p>Obama has done much good thru working for ACORN.  Remember, from tiny acorns, might oak trees grow.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-92">Barack&#8217;s leadership skills in government?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:43.</div><div><p>Please folks &#8211; give us an example.  And please, make it a good one.</p><p>If this were an election for Student Body President, I might vote  for the dude, but he&#8217;s applying to be the Leader of the United States  of America. Is there anything in his governmental experience that  indicates that he can be a great leader? Anything?</p><p>This ain&#8217;t no popularity contest&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-91">Palin as Prez? No Way</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://janetleejohnson.com" rel="nofollow">Janet Johnson</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  tired of Sarah Palin. I&#8217;m tired of kicking her around, of waiting for  her to have a public brain freeze, of hearing her droppin&#8217; g&#8217;s and  bringing nuc-u-lur back into the lexicon (I hope we&#8217;re almost finished  with that coming out of the White House).</p><p>At the same time, I&#8217;m proud that she&#8217;s the second legitimate woman  who&#8217;s a running mate on a presidential ticket, the first to &#8220;electrify&#8221;  a country. I&#8217;m mortified as I write that, but I&#8217;m proud of that big ol&#8217;  crack in the glass ceilin&#8217; she&#8217;s added to Hilary&#8217;s 18 million others.  (sigh)</p><p>As most of your poll-takers agree, no way is she qualified to be president. God help us all if she&#8217;s a heartbeat away.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-90">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Stevie (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:35.</div><div><p>Do  I feel that a citizen of this country who has not kept abreast of the  foreign policy situations, and the current administration doctrines is  qualified to step in as head of state in an emergency? No&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who will terminate people who disagree with her is worthy to be in the White House? No&#8230;&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who feels that because she is a woman she should  be treated with deference in a television interview should be leading a  country? No&#8230;..<br
/> Does a cram session with various political pundits counteract her  inacurate knowledge of what life is like for the rest of us in the  lower 48? No&#8230;&#8230;<br
/> Does this woman have the ability to gain respect of various world  leaders particularly those from countries where women are considered to  be less than equal? no.<br
/> what we really need is a Margaret Thatcher type.. the closest we have is Hilary Clinton.<br
/> Anita Palin is no Hilary Clinton<br
/> And being a POW and being in the Vietnam War does not make you the  right person to be president either. There are plenty of Vietnam Vets  and others who were POW&#8217;s .. and they aren&#8217;t running for President&#8211;  though John Kerry did.. and he wasn&#8217;t a POW.. he served his country.  Don&#8217;t bank on that one being the ACE..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-89">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:29.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would want his friend Tony Rezko to advise him on ethics in government.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-88">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would like William Ayers for his Secretary of Defense, since he knows how to blow things up.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-87">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:25.</div><div><p>Maybe  Obama can install Rev. Wright as Secretary of State. All the other  nations of the world will love his philosophy: God damn America!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-86">Re: amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:23.</div><div><p>I  think where the logic breaks down is that you&#8217;re assuming all  Governor&#8217;s are created equally. An American Governor&#8217;s principal job is  running the state, and to be honest, I&#8217;m not sure how good a governor  she is, but thats for the people of Alaska to decide. But as an  American, I feel that she&#8217;s dangerously ignorant of world affairs and  issues around a global economy.</p><p>And frankly, I think we&#8217;ve had enough of that already.</p><p>On the other hand, Obama and Biden are far more savvy. If you  watched the debate, you&#8217;ll have noticed how rarely Palin answers a  direct question. She&#8217;s not dumb, but she&#8217;s not worldly either. And  worse, she revels in her inexperience.</p><p>If she ever gets into the Presidential office, you might just wish  for the good ol days when GW was in charge. And if that doesn&#8217;t scare  you, it should.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-85">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:21.</div><div><p>Don&#8217;t you love it when a public relations man calls people degrading, hateful names?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-84">That is just dumb</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:16.</div><div><p>You  and your swill slinging dopes really should stop. Aside from Billy Bobs  missing teeth with Confederate Flags in their pickups, Americans  understand that Senator Obama is as American as you or I.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-83">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:15.</div><div><p>Someone  commented on here that we live in a Global society and therefore need  Obama. Folks, this world is getting so screwy and dangerous, that is  exactly why we do NOT need a post-modern green horn such as Obama as  POTUS. All the pie in the sky he professes is absolutely meaningless  without solid, tough, and REAL national security. Somehow, grandiose  social programs lose their luster when you have a nuclear missile up  your ass.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-82">double standard</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.madeinhead.org" rel="nofollow">Jason Preston</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:12.</div><div><p>Palin  took five tries and five years to get a journalism degree at  undistinguished schools, and managed to be an undistinguished student  at all four schools involved in her quest for a chance to be a TV  reporter. Obama was at the top of his class at every step of his  collegiate journey. When pressed three times to answer, Palin cannot  name a single existing newspaper or news magazine that she reads. If  you can&#8217;t see the difference here, perhaps you&#8217;re not an ideal student  or intellect either, but only through pride does a person lacking in a  certain virtue seek to exalt that lack. Just because I&#8217;m not tall  enough to slam dunk doesn&#8217;t mean I push for the NBA to hire more short  people! The Presidency&#8217;s the hardest job in the world, or one of them.  Stellar intellect, stellar ethics, and stellar success in life should  all be ironclad prerequisites to the job. If Palin is qualified to be  President, I am twice as qualified and will expect Palin fans&#8217; votes  when I make my run for high office.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-81">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Cowboy X (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:10.</div><div><p>Who  is qualified to be the President? There is no class to take to become  certified. We have to put our trust in a person. I wish that person  were Ron Paul!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-80">amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:00.</div><div><p>So  75% believe Palin cant be president in case something happens to  McCain. So I guess its OK to be an inexperienced presidential  candidate, but if your a vice presidential candidate who has actually  run a state, you don&#8217;t qualify. The logic here escapes me completely.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.petitiononline.com/CBSPALIN/petition.html" rel="nofollow">John Schuller</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:50.</div><div><p>CLICK ON MY NAME TO SIGN THIS PETITION</p><p>To:  CBS News</p><p>Sarah Palin herself has requested to speak to America without the  Media Filter in the Vice Presidential debate. ?I like being able to  answer tough questions without the filter of the mainstream media  telling the American people what they just heard,? she said in her  closing.</p><p>The people of the United States of America deserve to see the CBS Katie Couric interviews with Sarah Palin in their entirety.</p><p>This should be acceptable by Republicans and Democrats as it will  let Sarah Palin talk to America without the filter created by editing  and leaving important information on the cutting room floor.</p><p>Let us see an edition of &#8220;Sarah Palin: Unfiltered&#8221;.</p><p>This will allow Americans to see the real Sarah Palin.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>The Undersigned</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-78">Seriously&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://newyorkmomentsblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">newyorkmoments</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:49.</div><div><p>regardless  of the VP candidates&#8230;are we really going to vote in a Hussein????  Seriously?? I&#8217;m saddened that I&#8217;m not going to be able to vote Democrat  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-77">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:43.</div><div><p>I  sent John McCain a $1000 in September 2007&#8230;when his campaign was  flailing. I believed his voice needed to be in the debate. Until Sarah  Palin&#8217;s acceptance speech I did not send a penny to any other  candidate.</p><p>I was so outraged by the poor judgment demonstrated by McCain &#8212;  there were thousands, if not tens of thousands, of more capable,  competent men and women who could serve as his VP. I promptly sent a  large contribution to Obama. And with every solicitation letter I  receive from John McCain (they arrive daily), I write to ask for my  money back.</p><p>Whether &#8220;Joe six-pack&#8221; likes it or not&#8230;we live in a Global  Society, not an igloo nation. We already had Joe-six pack from  President for the last 8 years. Doesn&#8217;t any one remember &#8211; &#8220;George W.  Bush is the guy I want to have at my BBQ&#8221;???&#8230;Well &#8211; we got him&#8211; only  we got bbq&#8217;d.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-76">Re: Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Eric (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:35.</div><div><p>Would it be so much to ask for a Presidential nominee who actually had some experience?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-75">Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.liesdamnedlies.com" rel="nofollow">Ian Thomas</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:32.</div><div><p>&#8230;for a VP nominee who actually had some experience *before* she takes office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-74">Third out of four</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:30.</div><div><p>Stack  rank all four candidates &#8212; Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin &#8212; in terms  of experience, and she comes out 3rd out of 4. Obama is last.</p><p>Stack rank all four candidates in terms of executive experience &#8212;  meaning, &#8216;has the candidate ever managed a budget before, had headcount  before, and had to make decisions as opposed to provide advice&#8217; &#8212; and  she incredibly comes out first amongst the four, as she&#8217;s been both  governor and mayor.</p><p>Being the governor of a state was good enough for Clinton, good enough for Romney, and good enough for Reagan.</p><p>Those who attack her experience must feel terrible that Obama is the  leading candidate for the Dem&#8217;s, given his extraordinarily thin resume.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-73">If Barack Doesn&#8217;t Die, Is He Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:29.</div><div><p>Be  honest, folks. In his career in *government*, not running a campaign,  has he ever demonstrated outstanding leadership or executive skills?  Sarah certainly has, but her experience may nonetheless be too light.</p><p>Barack Obama has the least leadership or executive skills of *any* of the major candidates for president or vice president.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-72">Not a fan, but c&#8217;mon</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:21.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a Sarah fan, but she has a solid foundation &#8212; an ability to  connect with men and women, powerfully deliver her messages and ramp up  quickly on complex subjects. The actuaries estimate that there is a 75%  chance that Mr. McCain would survive a first term. Presumably, the  chances of him passing in the first YEAR would be very small. So the  real question would be &#8212; If Sarah Palin had at least a year as Vice  President under her belt, would she be competent to be President if  John McCain were to be incapacitated? I don&#8217;t have any doubt that she  would. I will not be voting for the GOP ticket, but the fear mongering  about Ms. Palin&#8217;s ability is baseless and perhaps sexist.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-71">To Pat Baker,  Actually, she</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:01.</div><div><p>To Pat Baker,<br
/> Actually, she has NOT been governor for a few years. She has been a  governor since 2007, she won the election at the END of 2006. So, not  even 2 years yet.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-70">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:58.</div><div><p>When  a lot of people say she was put in the VP nominee ticket because she  would shake things up for the Republican party, that&#8217;s scary. Why was  that the first and foremost reason why she was picked?!</p><p>We are not running a popularity contest here for god&#8217;s sake. We need  a leader, a WORLD LEADER that will get American back into the  respectful country it is amongst other nations in this world. Not a PTA  mom who claims she can juggle 5 kids when in fact her nanny, chef,  driver/pilot, gardener and 20 other staffers take care of the Mom role  for her. I&#8217;m all for the &#8220;women can do the same if not better job than  men&#8221; ideal, but come on, she isn&#8217;t even up to par on her events and  history. When you can only make punch points and be a talking head,  that is NOT a leader. She can&#8217;t even name ONE supreme court decision  other than Row vs. Wade. And being able to see Russia from Alaska does  not qualify as foreign experience. We do not need and DO NOT want an  average Joe or Jane to be our president or vice president.</p><p>It is scary when our (by that I mean the republicans) expectations have sunk so low.</p><p>And it&#8217;s even more scary when people are voting for republican  SIMPLY because she&#8217;s pro-life, even for those women who were victims of  rape or incest would NOT get a choice. That alone, to me, is hugely  undermining the equality so many women have worked so hard for so many  years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://cashflowtipsbydon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Don S</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:54.</div><div><p>Maybe  the most appropriate question is . . . if Barack Obama is elected  president, whether or not John McCain dies, is he qualified to lead the  country?</p><p>Being a governor is a proven road to the White House. Alaska is a  strategic state. Let&#8217;s see: Clinton was from Arkansas &#8212; even less  strategic, Carter from Georgia and Reagan from California . . . Bush  from Texas . . . oh, sure, I saw a post on the Huffington Post this  week that said &#8220;Bush is intellectually challenged.&#8221; Of course, there  was no evidence to support the claim.</p><p>Obama is currently more likely to become president than Sarah Palin  and that&#8217;s something that should concern all clear-thinking Americans.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-68">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Jerome Schindler (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:53.</div><div><p>How  could she possibly be any worse that what we have been subjected to  recently. I am sure Harry Truman&#8217;s skills woudl also have been panned.  McCain ought to be a good choice as nobody has been sure what party he  belongs to for many years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-67">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Bill Platt (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:45.</div><div><p>Deluded?  Although she has as much or more experience than Obama, you are willing  to suggest that my delusion is that she could not be President, but  Obama can be?</p><p>The only delusion is that Obama&#8217;s experience is greater than hers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-66">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:31.</div><div><p>Palin is absolutely not qualified &#8211; anyone who thinks so is deluded.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-65">Re: pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:29.</div><div><p>The point was she won&#8217;t take no crap.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-64">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:27.</div><div><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p><p>Then James they should do the same before becoming parents. Maybe  then we won&#8217;t have so many libetards. Bunch of whiners don&#8217;t know a  good thing when it slaps them upside the head.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-63">Re: Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:26.</div><div><p>As  a Vietnam veteran I can assure you that sad fact by itself (yeah, we  lost a war we had no business being in) does not qualify anyone to be  President. While I respect McCain&#8217;s service to his country McCain  himself has admitted that he collaborated with the enemy and signed  documents condemning America&#8217;s.bombing of Hanoi as being war crimes.</p><p>As at the time we were carpet bombing a densely populated Hanoi with  low level B-52 bombing runs, the North Vietnamese perhaps had a point  that a stressed out and in terrible pain McCain decided to agree with.</p><p>Not that I blame him. Fortunately, my POW camp experience was  limited to a combat training exercise at Camp Lejeune, N.C. It was only  for a very long day but that was enough to make brave grown men trained  for combat by battle hardened US Marines cry out in pain. McCain&#8217;s  experience had to be horrible and I&#8217;m sure that the scars, mental and  physical, must still be with him.</p><p>However, I wasn&#8217;t referring to McCain other than his grandstanding  poor judgement in selecting Governor Palin as his running mate. Sarah  may be a swell gal, certainly her down home nature appeals to a lot of  down home people across America, but please, qualified to perhaps have  to step into the President&#8217;s role?</p><p>She is a little league player suddenly thrown into the major  leagues. I admire her spunk but fear her aggressive claim that she is  ready to serve when she can&#8217;t even handle soft ball interviews. Who  wants a President just like an average Joe? In case you haven&#8217;t noticed  there are very complicated problems that America faces that will  require outstanding leadership to solve.</p><p>I&#8217;m not a big Obama fan either but at least the man has first class  intelligence and a first class temperament. He doesn&#8217;t tend to shoot  from the hip or fire, ready, aim like old fighter pilots are apt to do.  Palin was a choice designed to fire up the Republican Party&#8217;s  conservative base and in that the move was successful. But at what risk  to the country if McCain and Palin are elected?</p><p>With the odds being about one in four that a 72 year old cancer  survivor would not make it another four years a President Palin is a  frightening possibility.</p><p>That&#8217;s putting country first? Please! Give me a break.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-62">ldaught2  AHEM ! ! !</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:24.</div><div><p>ldaught2</p><p>AHEM ! ! !</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-61">Re: Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by ldaught2 (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:16.</div><div><p>//Until then, keep reading all the world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.//</p><p>Are you kidding?? what can a bias newspaper and magazine teach??  (and that would be all of them)That is the most idiot statement I have  read!</p><p>To answer the question&#8230;Could Palin be President?&#8230;yes yes and  yes&#8230;.The other 3 on the ticket was in the senate and HELPED drive  America where we are today! I dont care if Palin comes from a goat  farm, she could do better than this stinkin government!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-60">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:15.</div><div><p>Lady Coveted&#8230;.another woman that feels threatened by good looking successful women.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-59">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>James flew in from that alternate universe that Joe Biden lives in.   Maybe the Missouri Truth Squad can help him.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-58">pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://the-coveted.com/blog" rel="nofollow">lady coveted</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>being as putin&#8217;s no longer president of russia.</p><p>dmitri medvedev succeeded putin back in march, she&#8217;s so out of touch she&#8217;d probably miss that point too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-57">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:08.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s  competent all right. Competent enough to ban books at the public  library, books she has never even read. Competent enough to try to fire  a librarian who was just doing her job, Competent enough to veto sex  education for minors, (surprise there huh?), competent enough to fire  the head of the troopers who refused to fire her ex-brother in law for  unjustifiable reasons.</p><p>No wonder repugs love her so much, she&#8217;ll fit right in..*L*</p><p>At least Obama went through a process and garnered enough votes to  earn the right to be where he is today. Palin was handed the position  because McCain needed a quick fix and liked the way she looked and  talked.</p><p>Was she the most qualified and best suited republican for the job?  Of course not and people are not being genuine if they say yes. For  that reason McCain should and will lose this election.</p><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-56">Re: Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:54.</div><div><p>Palin would shove her pretty heels up Putin&#8217;s ass.  Then make him beg for more.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-55">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>Yes.  She would do a great job, because she has intelligence coupled with  common sense, grit, and good solid values. Would to God that this  country had had dozens of Presidents like her instead of some of the  buffoons we&#8217;ve suffered through.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-54">Re: People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>No he&#8217;ll bring them in from the hood.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-53">Shooting wolves from a Copter</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:50.</div><div><p>is  not the kind of Hunter i respect&#8230;..and margaret Thatcher is on her  way over their to whoop your ass for comparing her to Palin&#8230;.Thatcher  was one of the most intelligent and tough politicians in modern  times&#8230;.Palin doesn&#8217;t have a college education and she can&#8217;t even  stand up to KATIE M*^#ATHERF%*#KING COURIC&#8230;.stop comparing her to  Thatcher</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-52">People Around You</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>Obama  will have the flag stomper and terrorist, Dick Ayres and the God D@*$  America Reverend Wright. Both these gentlemen have doctorates!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-51">People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>it  is very important who the president brings into their admin&#8230;..I&#8217;m  certain Obama isn&#8217;t going to fill his cabinet from his high school  yearbook like little miss Palin</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-50">Obama Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>A one-term governor who is the most popular governor in the country.</p><p>Of course, that&#8217;s one more term than former &#8220;community organizer&#8221; and one-term senator.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-49">Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>Obviously  you haven&#8217;t seen Sarah Palin in the real world, she hunts guts and eats  things that get in her way, I would imagine you are the type of idiot  that thought Margaret Thatcher was a bad choice too&#8230;.Russia would beg  for forgiveness from Palin and Putin would be licking Sarah&#8217;s boots in  red square&#8230;.</p><p>Moron.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-48">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mrclm.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chris Meirose</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:45.</div><div><p>More  competent than Al Gore. More competent than Dick Cheney. More competent  than Dan Quayle. Palin would do just fine. Being president is as much  or more about who you have around you than anything else. You must be  able to make tough decisions, and know what you believe in, but at the  end of the day the experts you surround yourself with as President will  make or break your term in the modern context.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-47">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.pullinsreport.com" rel="nofollow">Scott Pullins</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s clearly not competent.</p><p><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-46">Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>russia  calls us a bunch of homos, and Putin slams his shoe on the desk?  &#8230;&#8230;if Palin were president Putin would literally rape her mouth on  live telivision then claim he thought she was the &#8220;entertainment&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-45">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:42.</div><div><p>The  answer is YES, she has run something, SHE has more experience RUNNING a  government than ANY of the candidates&#8230; So yes she is Qualified.</p><p>Obama isn&#8217;t qualified to be elected dog catcher, McCain at least has  the experience in dealing with hostile forces, and for you libtards  there still are hostile forces at work oh and they are hoping for Obama  too&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-44">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:41.</div><div><p>I  didn&#8217;t say NO degree. I said not an &#8220;Ivy League Degree&#8221;. I was just  giving my opinion &#8211; &#8220;If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would  Sarah Palin be competent to be President?&#8221; My answer is yes.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-43">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Matt Jones (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:40.</div><div><p>Clinton&#8217;s  budget experience was a budget of Arkansas which was smaller than  cuyahoga county. Obama has ZERO budget experience. She can manage a  budget. She communicates and articulates the GOP positions more  effectively than McCain, Bush, Cheney and Dole to name some powerful  people.</p><p>go to Canada you commie bastages!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-42">Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:39.</div><div><p>and  an Obama/Biden victory will make us look like a bunch of pansies&#8230;I  would love for you to explain how a war veteran that went through what  McCain did would cause the world to look at us as a laughing stock? Mrs  Thatcher was looked at a little off by the owrkd but she did fine? is  it you are scared of women or hunting women?</p><p>Palin is the only candidate in the race I would vote for president  and be happy about it. I will vote McCain just to get Sarah Palin  closer to the Big Job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-41">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>The US is going to hell because McCain&#8217;s buddy George Bush set us on that course.  4 more years of that?</p><p>BTW, the question was if McCain kicks, is Palin qualified?  And the answer is no.</p><p>Instead of attacking Obama, how about telling why you think Palin is  qualified? Is it because even you know she isn&#8217;t? Typical Republican.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-40">&#8220;College Education&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>All  those &#8220;economic experts&#8221; have great post-grad degrees from high end  schools. Hopefully, that will help them as they look for a new job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-39">Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:34.</div><div><p>Palin  makes a big deal about her &#8220;six pack joe&#8221; ways and seems to be proud of  her ignorance. We have had almost eight years of a largely  disinterested in the world at large President and see where that has  taken us. American is on a slippery downward slope and it will be  difficult to avoid a hard crash and burn landing.</p><p>I for one don&#8217;t want someone as VP, who may well end up being  President, who is just another six pack Joe yahoo. America is the  laughing stock of the world just to have such a yahoo candidate.</p><p>If McCain and Palin are somehow elected American&#8217;s standing in the  world as a world leader, much less a super power, will be further  reduced to the vanishing point. We would be looked upon as a nation of  village idiots.</p><p>It&#8217;s not that I love Obama. Come to think of it with the choice down  to Obama or McCain perhaps we American have found the perfect means to  self destruct. The support given by McCain and Obama for the $700  billion bailout bill (before another $100 billion or so in pure pork  was added) is another giant step in that direction.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-38">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:33.</div><div><p>&#8220;You  idiots care more about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the  stars and stripes. You get what you deserve.&#8221; The truest statement  since Reagan stated the most scary thing ever was &#8220;I&#8217;m from the  government and I&#8217;m here to help&#8221;</p><p>I wouldnt be so dead set against OBAMA if he were more Country  first, rather than Blame everyone else&#8230; HIS party has led congress  for the last 2 years and we have gone from solvency to bankruptcy and  BOTH parties are to blame, ONLY one party is used to responsibility,  the other is used to &#8220;Tolerance&#8221; and forgiveness of their own&#8230;.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-37">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:31.</div><div><p>you  mean like the modern day general who doesn&#8217;t have a college degree? are  we suddenly recruiting presidents from third world countries? because  EVERY American General has a college degree&#8230;&#8230;lets not pretend we  live in the world of 2 centuries ago</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-36">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Nothing  like partisanship. That&#8217;s right put the party before the country. No  wonder the US is going to hell in a rocketship. You idiots care more  about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the stars and stripes.  You get what you deserve.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-35">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Oh  and I&#8217;m qualified because I am a black community organizer.. Don&#8217;t look  at the communities I organized or anything, just trust me for CHANGE&#8230;  BS, it is highway strong arm robbery, ACORN? Rev Wright? Ayers?  Phlegar? Farakhan? Ok Palin has what? A couple of LIES perpetrated by  the elitist media that have been debunked. Yeah Obama in 08 and the end  of our nation in 09&#8230;.good plan.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-34">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://experiencecurve.com" rel="nofollow">Karl</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:27.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  ironic that if you guys had listened to Carter in the 70&#8242;s you would  not be as f**cked as you are now and you would probably have energy  independence.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-33">Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:24.</div><div><p>Say  what you want about Obama, he&#8217;ll make a much better President than  either &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I can see Russia from my pooper, yah, you  betcha&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I was a POW a million years ago,  wait, what was the question again?&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-32">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>Palin  Derangement Syndrome is alive and well as the media blitzkrieg is  desperate to discredit the Palin/McCain presidential ticket.</p><p>Palin handily beat Biden down last night, and that causes severe swelling in the liberal frontal lobe.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-31">Competent&#8230;OBama?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>So  you say go back home hockey mom&#8230; Wow&#8230; your complete lack of what a  hockey mom is.. basically a communtity leader&#8230;hmmm Let&#8217;s see Omaa is  just that, he has not been a Governer, worked a state budger.. .his  short political careeer shows less tenure that Palin. Fair is Fair ,  your last paragraph shows your compete ignorance,,, go read a bit  yourself!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-30">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>You mean like George Washington?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-29">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://republicaninthearts.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Incognito</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:14.</div><div><p>and  how about looking at it this way&#8230; with all Biden&#8217;s asinine gaffes  would people be thrilled to have him as president, if Obama were to  die? I&#8217;d be much happier with a Palin presidency than either an Obama  or Biden presidency.</p><p>She&#8217;s done very well for Alaska&#8230;thank you very much.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-28">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.golfblogger.com" rel="nofollow">GolfBlogger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:10.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  not saying much, but I think Palin&#8217;s more qualified than Obama. The  problem is that if you vote Republican, an unqualified person MIGHT  become president. If you vote Democrat, an unqualified person WILL  become president.</p><p>The only logical ticket is Biden-McCain &#8212; one which, during the primaries, Joe Biden said he wouldn&#8217;t mind.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-27">Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:09.</div><div><p>you  would not make a good president nor would anyone who doesn&#8217;t have an  University Degree&#8230;..watch that sassy little Katie Couric if you want  to know why Sara Palin is completely incompetent</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-26">What the&#8230;?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.soldiersperspective.us" rel="nofollow">CJ Grisham</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:07.</div><div><p>If Palin isn&#8217;t competent enough to be President, then Obama is even LESS competent to hold the position!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-25">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:03.</div><div><p>Why  won&#8217;t Sara Palin be a competent President? Is there anything about  Obama that makes him more intelligent than Palin? It offends me as a  person to think differently. I believe she would do as well, if not  better, than any other of the men or women who have made a run during  this election.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t go to an ivy league college. I haven&#8217;t served as a PTO  chairperson or any other office but I think I would make a darn good  president. I&#8217;m excited to think that maybe we might have something  fresh in the office. From Hillary to McCain it is the same old same old.</p><p>Margaret</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-24">experience or education ?</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:57.</div><div><p>While  one could argue all day long about the experience factor between Obama  and Palin, one can&#8217;t argue much about the difference in education. I  would rather have someone educated in the highest office of the land.</p><p>Thanks, but no thanks for that sweet talkin&#8217;, well read gal from Alaska.</p><p>Don&#8217;t YA know?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-23">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:55.</div><div><p>I  am voting for McCain/Palin for precisely that reason, I would be WAY  more happy with Palin as President than I will be with McCain.<br
/> If Obama wins we ALL lose&#8230;.Oh and a preemptive dismiss to those that  say it&#8217;s because he is black&#8230;Its not because he is black its because  he is a communist/socialist libtard baby killing gun taking no  leadership other than &#8220;ACORN&#8221; type skills&#8230;. but vote how you want, I  cant wait till you liberal idiots get what you want, just like after  Carter, you came crying to the Conservatives to save you, Obama is a  black Carter maybe worse.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-22">NFW</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://twww.mahamatzav.org" rel="nofollow">rebaaron</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:54.</div><div><p>Sarah  Palin is a poser. She&#8217;s so enamored with Ronald Reagan I believe, in  part, because she&#8217;s just like him &#8211; an actor. Reagan wasn&#8217;t a president  as much as he was able to act like a president. The VP debates last  night showed this &#8211; Palin is all show and no substance. What&#8217;s really  scary is she believes that she&#8217;s capable. I think she really has no  idea and is not capable of getting it. I think some call this  sociopathic tendencies?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-21">Palin Did Better Than Expected</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Atheist Jew</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>She proved to me that she doesn&#8217;t have an IQ of 75.  It is more like 90 or 95.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-20">National Level Experience (NLE)</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>Palin  is an order of magnitude more Podunk than any national political figure  in modern times. Case in point, 6 months ago, Palin said, flat out, she  is not INTERESTED in national policy, as in she doesn&#8217;t have the time  or will to keep up with what is going on in this country&#8230;when you use  NLE as the measure Obama is far ahead of Palin, exemplified by the fact  that the very first thing he did in the Senate was get a law passed to  help secure &#8220;loose nukes&#8221; in the former USSR&#8230;.compare that to Palin  who apparently could not even pass a seventh grade civics test (doesn&#8217;t  know any supreme court cases besides Roe v. Wade?)</p><p>All the PAlin supporters are the same , pardon my french, IDIOTS who  supported GW because he&#8217;s a guy they can drink a beer with&#8230;..Palin  sure is a regular joe&#8230;Joe Retard that is</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-19">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by brad (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>If  something happened to McCain on day one would Palin be ready? No, BUT  what makes you think Obama is? Lets talk about the TOP of the ticket.  Give me a break!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-18">And Barack is Qualified? </a></div><div> Submitted by J (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 14:33.</div><div><p>I  love how people point out how Palin&#8217;s not qualified SHOULD something  happen to McCain. And what makes Barack qualified? He&#8217;s been in the  Senate for 2 years? And if he is elected, he&#8217;s it. At least with  McCain, we&#8217;re electing a very seasoned and proven person who has a  pretty good track record for change. Obama can talk about change but he  hasn&#8217;t walked it at all.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-17">Re: Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:32.</div><div><p>Source please.  Media previously said superficial Basal cell.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-16">Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:15.</div><div><p>He has had MELANOMA. The deadliest form of skin cancer</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-15">Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by rusmayse on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 00:48.</div><div><p>Poor  Palin. I commend her on the acceptance of such a difficult position in  such a tough time. It takes a really strong person to take on the role  she has. And I do agree with the fact that she may &#8220;catch on quickly&#8221;.  I&#8217;m just particularly concerned and unsure she has any idea what she is  doing. Period.<br
/> Go back home hockey mom. Gain experience over the next 8 years. Become  more involved on a national level. Listen to the cries of us people.  And then please, come back again :) Until then, keep reading all the  world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-14">Not as a woman, or a man</a></div><div> Submitted by TomCollins2100 on Thu, 10/02/2008 &#8211; 23:33.</div><div><p>Are  you kidding? The notion that she&#8217;s being unfairly judged as unqualified  because she&#8217;s a woman is absurd. If she were a man, McCain would have  been laughed out of the country for picking a first-term governor with  no other applicable experience and zero national &#8211; let alone foreign  policy &#8211; qualifications.</p><p>Women with any brains at all should be insulted that McCain and the  Republicans think that they will vote for any woman they offer, or  belive this particular woman is remotely qualified to run any country,  forget about the United States.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-13">RELEASE THE MEDICAL RECORDS</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 16:02.</div><div><p>what  you say is partially true, superficial skin cancers are not fatal,  especially with decent healthcare, but WE DON&#8217;T KNOW THE EXTENT OF  MCCAIN&#8221;S CANCER because he won&#8217;t release ALL of his medical  records&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t sit here and defend him against this criticism, when  his campaign could put this completely to bed with a single phone call  to his doctor.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-12"> Palin needs to read a American History Booko</a></div><div> Submitted by pat baker (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  sick of McCain calling Obama a on the job learner, community action  worker. Palin is is a affrimative action herself. Mrs Bush said she was  a &#8220;quick learner&#8221; Do I need a vp who is a quick learner? She&#8217;s just a  Gov for a few years, no national experience. She can&#8217;t answer straight  question. These photo opts with people from the MiddleEast aren&#8217;t  getting on my nerves, they are making me sick Who cares if she&#8217;s cute  while my 401 K might go down the tubes!. Hillary Clinton would run  rings around her. I don&#8217;t need a &#8221; on the job VP during these troubled  times..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-11">McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Omar Hamada</a> (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:33.</div><div><p>Enough  of the cancer stuff!!! Talk about spin and/or ignorance! When&#8217;s the  last time someone actually died from superficial squamous or basal cell  skin cancer? Answer: NEVER. Now if it were actually melanoma or other  types of invasive squamous cell cancer, then it would be a different  story &#8211; BUT IT&#8217;S NOT!!!!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-9">but seriously, she reads ALL the newspapers</a></div><div> Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:55.</div><div><p>Check  out her interview with Katie Couric. She shares that she reads ALL the  newspapers in the world. She must be really freakin smart. She also  graduated from the University of Idaho. I mean it doesnt get much more  prestigious than that. And besides, who is Biden to talk.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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/> Touting the project, HSWAC President and CEO William Mahlum said, &#8220;Seawater air conditioning will protect businesses from the skyrocketing electric rates caused by oil price increases and everybody will benefit from a cleaner environment,&#8221; adding “Reducing our use of fossil fuels and preserving the environment will be a wonderful legacy that we all leave to future generations of Hawaii residents.&#8221;</p><p><strong>Cool Water Drawn from Ocean, Circulated to Cool Buildings</strong><br
/> The way the seawater air conditioning system will work is this: Cool water is drawn from 1,600 feet down in the ocean, pumped to a station onshore where the salt water will be used to cool fresh water being circulated in a closed-loop system through customers buildings. After cooling the circulating fresh water, the seawater is returned to the ocean at a shallower depth.</p><p>Construction is scheduled to begin in early January 2009.</p><p>Though this is interesting unto itself, and could certainly reduce fossil fuels used for air conditioning in a place where 90% of its fuel is imported, if the electricity used to power the system was generated renewably, then they’d really be onto something.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2026">Climate Solutions: Charting a Bold Course A cap-and-trade system is not the answer, according to a leading alternative-energy advocate. To really tackle climate change, the U.S. must revolutionize its entire energy strategy.</a></p><blockquote><h4><a
href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2026">Opinion: Climate Solutions: Charting a Bold Course</a></h4><p><em>A cap-and-trade system is not the answer, according to a leading alternative-energy advocate. To really tackle climate change, the U.S. must revolutionize its entire energy strategy.</em></p><p><span
class="author">by Denis Hayes</span></p><p>More than 30 years ago, President Jimmy Carter called for a daring transition to a new energy future, an effort he likened to “the moral equivalent of war.” But the hard truth is that the United States is in far worse shape in the energy realm today than it was when Carter left office.</p><p>Since 1981, annual greenhouse gas emissions have grown from 4.7 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide to 5.9 billion metric tons. America imported 1.6 billion barrels of oil in 1981; by 2007 imports had ballooned to 3.7 billion barrels. Today, oil prices have surged past $130 per barrel, and the best evidence suggests that total global oil production is at or nearing its peak. Under President Carter, America dominated the world in renewable energy research, development, and commercialization, but in the ensuing decades our federal government has thrown away that lead.</p><p>With the economy now staggering from its addiction to oil, and with evidence of global warming having persuaded all but the knuckle-draggers, is America at last getting serious about freeing itself from carbon fuels?</p><p>Actually, no. Most environmentally sensitive politicians and even many national green groups are remarkably blithe that the Lieberman-Warner bill — a 500-page cap-and-trade law filled with more holes than a Madonna dance outfit — will take us there.</p><p>The tragedy is that we still have a chance to solve the global warming crisis, but we are blowing it by chasing false hopes in the form of an inadequate cap-and-trade bill.</p><p>Acting fast enough and on a large enough scale to avoid unthinkable climate consequences will require a more ambitious effort than the New Deal, the Interstate Highway System, and the Manhattan Project, all rolled into one. Serious efforts to stabilize the world’s climate will have dramatic consequences for industry, transportation, architecture, agriculture, leisure, and consumerism, and so, many of these changes will be fought tooth and nail — as was evident last week when Republican Senators attacked and derailed the Lieberman-Warner bill, forcing Democratic leaders to place the initiative on hold until a new president takes office.</p><p>The truth is that all our largest current energy sources will need to be replaced by new sources — over the ferocious opposition of the powerful companies that market them.</p><p>The story of how we got into this crunch is a tale of political opportunism and shortsightedness. For had America continued on the course we’d embarked upon in the mid-1970s, the task ahead would now be much less expensive, much less painful, and much more certain of success.</p><p>In 1979, after the Arab oil embargo, Carter announced that by the year 2000 America was to get at least one-fifth of all its energy from renewable sources — mainly solar energy, wind, and biofuels. The Solar Energy Research Institute, which I then served as director, was at the heart of this effort. Leading a team of scientists and analysts drawn from national labs and major universities, SERI prepared the detailed technical and policy blueprint to meet or surpass the 20 percent goal.</p><p>In 1981, halfway through his first year in office, President Ronald Reagan abandoned the 20 percent goal, reduced SERI’s $125 million budget by $100 million, and installed a dentist named Jim Edwards as Secretary of Energy. To demonstrate his contempt for the notion of alternative energy, Reagan ordered the solar water heaters ripped off the White House roof. We’ve never recovered.</p><p>The successive administrations of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, bobbing along on a sea of cheap oil, did little to shift America’s economy to renewable energy sources. And for the past seven years, the United States has been led by a president who projects such a breathtaking marriage of arrogance and incompetence that his refusal to even acknowledge the reality of climate change has not generally been considered one of his more glaring flaws.</p><p>As climate science has grown increasingly clear, many corporate CEOs have become convinced that global warming has a human signature. The brightest CEOs of Fortune 100 companies realized that once the Democrats took back control of Congress, it would be only a matter of time before climate legislation was enacted. The next president, whoever it is, will demand action. These CEOs all wanted to be at the table — in Washington, if you aren’t at the table, you’re likely to wind up on the menu.</p><p>Environmental groups soon found themselves being courted by business leaders who recognized that the climate threat would require a serious national response. They formed the <a
href="http://www.us-cap.org/" target="_blank">U.S. Climate Action Partnership</a> and other alliances that offered benefits for environmentalists but also entailed subtle costs. The most obvious benefit was that environmental leaders are taken more seriously on Capitol Hill when they arrive linking arms with the CEOs of General Electric, Caterpillar, DuPont, and General Motors.</p><p>The cost was the natural downside of consensus building: Policies cannot significantly harm the core interests of any of the participants. When the participants include the world’s largest automobile company, the largest manufacturer of jet engines, the largest maker of mining equipment for coal and bituminous sands, etc., this is not an insignificant cost.</p><p>What emerged from this unexpected alliance was a consensus that the centerpiece of climate policy should be a cap on CO<sub>2</sub>, generally applied as close to the point of emission as realistically possible. Additionally, there was widespread agreement that (a) between 25 percent and 80 percent of all emissions permits should be given away to major emitters for a transitional period; (b) the law should provide ample “offsets” available for purchase by companies failing to meet reduction targets; and (c) “safety valves” should permit relaxed enforcement in case greenhouse gas reductions cause temporary economic hardship.</p><p>Unfortunately, these are genuinely terrible ideas. They are not bad because they lack ambition; rather, they are bad because they move boldly in the wrong direction. They don’t merely ignore the way that the global economy responds to real-world policies; they ignore everything we have learned about human nature since Rousseau’s belief in humanity’s innate goodness crashed on the shoals of 18th-century reality.</p><p>So what should a serious energy and climate policy look like?</p><h3>Carbon Must be Capped Where It Enters the Economy, Not Where It Leaves It</h3><p>The backbone of any comprehensive policy to limit greenhouse gas emissions must cap carbon at the places — coal mines, oil fields, pipelines, ports — where it enters the economy. Instead, at the behest of corporate behemoths and their green enablers, our political leaders are focusing most of their attention on smokestacks, and when that is obviously impossible (e.g. with gasoline or propane) on refiners or distributors. They want to cap CO<sub>2</sub> where it enters the atmosphere — an approach that is guaranteed to fail because there are far too many point sources.</p><p>Europe has already attempted a cap-and-trade program, and it belly-flopped. Senators Warner and Lieberman, who should be applauded for at least acknowledging that global warming is a problem, failed to absorb some important lessons from Europe, including:</p><ul><li>The most important part of cap-and-trade is the “cap.” Any successful law must place an impermeable lid on the amount of carbon that enters the atmosphere. To whatever extent additional trees or windmills are used to “offset” additional carbon-based fuels, the exercise is self-defeating.</li><li>In contrast to regulating a sea of smokestacks, the best course is to require carbon permits at the 2,000 sources where carbon enters the economy. It would be simple, straightforward, and impossible to “game.” It is vastly more effective than trying to police carbon dioxide wherever carbon is burned. In setting the number of carbon permits issued — and thus determining how much coal, oil, and gas can enter the economy — the government would be setting an absolute, easily-enforced cap on emissions.</li><li>All carbon permits should be auctioned — not given away. In Europe, permits were given away to large carbon users to ease their transition to the new regime. Major polluters made cheap improvements, lowered their emissions, and sold their unneeded permits. This gave windfalls to the worst polluters, penalized companies that had already invested in efficient new factories and renewable energy, and helped guarantee that Europe would miss its Kyoto targets.Auctioning 100 percent of all carbon permits is fair and transparent; it eliminates backroom special-interest pleadings. By reducing the number of permits auctioned each year, the government can guarantee that its emissions targets are met.</li></ul><h3>Use Auction Revenues Intelligently</h3><p>The most vital use for most of the revenues would be to serve such climate-related public purposes as building the infrastructure needed for a national “smart grid” for electricity and for high-speed electrified railroads, assuring large federal markets for the sunrise industries of the post-carbon economy, and finding ways to accelerate the solution of the climate problem through huge boosts in federal support for basic research. However, a portion of the revenues should compensate for the regressive nature of what is effectively a carbon tax, perhaps by using them to meet the shortfalls facing Medicare and Social Security and helping to underwrite training for green-collar jobs.</p><h3>Promote Renewable Energy</h3><p>Government has a long tradition of helping sunrise industries supplant their well-entrenched predecessors. Canals were encouraged as more efficient than horses. Railroads were viewed as a way to open the west. The interstate highway system replaced many of the functions performed by railroads.</p><p>Some renewable energy sources would benefit greatly from a focused, long-term federal commitment to R&amp;D. Others are already poised to ride learning curves to lower prices through economies of mass production — but require guaranteed markets to elicit the necessary investment. (Computer chips went from being high-priced luxuries to cheap-as-dirt commodities only because the Air Force and NASA bought them in bulk until their prices fell to a level where the private market took over.)</p><p>The federal government should be buying photovoltaic devices in bulk and installing them on all federal buildings, military bases, and the backs of billboards, and pouring the power into the grid. The goal should be to grow the market in a rapid yet predictable way linked to constantly lower prices. The start-and-stop unpredictability of renewable energy tax credits over the last 30 years has severely undermined the wind and solar industries, and placed American companies at a huge disadvantage with foreign competitors. As recently as 1998, America was the world’s largest manufacturer of solar photovoltaics — a technology that was invented here. But Japan, with a long-term strategy, sped past the U.S. the following year. A few years later, led by Germany, much of Europe implemented tariffs that vaulted the solar field into hyperdrive. If current trends continue, annual global photovoltaic production by 2011 will be a stunning 30 gigawatts, of which the U.S. will contribute perhaps 4 percent.</p><h3>Construct a Resilient Nationwide Smart Grid to Take Power from Anywhere to Anywhere</h3><p>The arguments for a national smart grid are legion; the arguments against it don’t hold water. Many carbon-neutral renewable energy sources are intermittent or diurnal, and the best locations both for sources (sunlight, wind, geothermal) and for storage are widely dispersed. We need to be able to knit the nation together. Only the government can assemble the corridor rights to make such a development possible.</p><h3>Get Serious about Automobile Mileage</h3><p>In World War II — without Representative John Dingell Jr. to protect it from reality — Detroit was ordered to stop making cars and start making tanks. Today, Detroit needs to be ordered to stop making civilian tanks and start making cars. Manufacturers should be free to use any technology that can get 50 mpg by 2020 and 100 mpg by 2030. The world cannot afford yet another abysmal failure by the once-proud American automobile industry.</p><h3>Build High-Speed Electrified Railways for Our Busiest Corridors</h3><p>The answer to every intercity travel need is not an airplane or a car. America is the only industrial power on earth without high-speed electrified rail — a super-efficient mode of intercity travel that can be carbon-free. I don’t know a single American who has traveled on the bullet train from Tokyo to Osaka who hasn’t wondered, “Why can’t we do that from Boston to Washington? From San Francisco to LA?” It would require the same sort of government effort that built the interstate highway system — or, for that matter, the original railroads.</p><h3>Set Strong Building Energy Performance Standards</h3><p>We need to make all new buildings carbon-neutral by 2030, requiring vast increases in efficiency and walls and roofs that harvest energy directly from sunlight. The astonishing rate at which voluntary LEED standards have swept across the country suggests a deep hunger on the part of smart architects and builders for structures that will make sense throughout their 50-year lifetimes. We need to build on that momentum to create a new generation of energy efficient “living buildings.”</p><h3>Train the Labor Force</h3><p>Reversing climate change has an enormous potential to put America back to work. The greatest employment opportunities are for those who will transport and install solar modules, build and maintain wind farms, construct and operate the high-speed rail system and the “smart grid.” Programs, mostly at community colleges, to teach these new skills need to increase 100-fold, and a special emphasis should be placed on retraining the “losers” in the energy transitions — such as workers in coal mines and coal-fired power plants, etc. — and inner-city poor who have seen their job prospects disappear in the globalized economy.</p><h3>The Time is Now</h3><p>Following decades of political denial of climate science, America now lags far behind Europe and Japan in creating most of the basic building blocks for a carbon-neutral era. In several core renewable energy technologies, we have already been passed by China.</p><p>It’s not too late to get back in the game. But the global industry is rapidly expanding and maturing, and it has supportive government policies in Germany, Japan, the Nordic states, the Netherlands, South Korea, and China.</p><p>America has unparalleled scientific and engineering excellence, formidable financial muscle, bountiful natural resources, a democratic political system, and an entrepreneurial culture well-suited to helping to lead the world into a prosperous, carbon-neutral era. But we have been dragging our heels, as if this were a problem for our children to fix.</p><p>Global warming is our problem, and it’s time to get serious about solving it.</p></blockquote><div
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id="more-4416"></span>After 15-years in DC, I have noticed that those noble activists who are saving the world have yet to save themselves, their marriages, their families, and their children.</p><p>The children of many of the founders of these organizations are a mess, with boys and girls as scared and abandoned as the children of their more celebrated Hollywood celebrities and New York robber barons. They are cared for by nannies and oftentimes never see their parents for weeks at a time.</p><p>All because one or more of their parents are making sacrifices for a higher, nobler cause: saving the whales.  Or some similar <em>cause celebre</em>.</p><p>The illusion of nobility associated with saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.</p><p>If you have <em>all</em> of your ducks in a row, if your children are happy and well-adjusted, if your health is good and you get enough sleep and exercise, if you still chase your spouse around the bed pretty regularly, and you call your mother, with energy to spare for yourself, then you have the right to save the whales.</p><p>Otherwise, you are chasing phantoms, you are wasting your time, and you had better still yourself enough to remember why you got married, why you had children, and whether the whales really matter to you any more or if you’re just used to saving the whales.</p><p>Otherwise, let the whales fend for themselves for a little while while you get yourself together.</p><p>If you disrespect your own family enough to abandon them for your noble cause then the whales are better off without you. Resign from your save the whales campaign immediately, move to New York, and settle in to a life on Wall Street.</p><p>If you’re going to be ignoble, you might as well do it for money.  The entire order <a
href="http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Cetacea.html" rel="nofollow">cetacea</a> recognize hypocrisy when they see it and they don’t want any of your filthy lucre anyway.</p><p><strong>Note:</strong> This article was previously named <a
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/> Having to spend each day the color of the leaves<br
/> When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold<br
/> Or something much more colorful like that</p><p>It&#8217;s not easy being green<br
/> It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things<br
/> And people tend to pass you over &#8217;cause you&#8217;re<br
/> Not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water<br
/> Or stars in the sky</p><p>But green&#8217;s the color of Spring<br
/> And green can be cool and friendly-like<br
/> And green can be big like an ocean, or important<br
/> Like a mountain, or tall like a tree</p><p>When green is all there is to be<br
/> It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why<br
/> Wonder, I am green and it&#8217;ll do fine, it&#8217;s beautiful<br
/> And I think it&#8217;s what I want to be</p><div
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/> After 15-years in DC, I have noticed that those noble activists who are saving the world have yet to save themselves, their marriages, their families, and their children.</p><p>The children of many of the founders of these organizations are a mess, with boys and girls as scared and abandoned as the children of their more celebrated Hollywood celebrities and New York robber barons. They are cared for by nannies and oftentimes never see their parents for weeks at a time.</p><p>All because one or more of their parents are making sacrifices for a higher, nobler cause: saving the whales.  Or some similar <em>cause celebre</em>.</p><p><img
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Through serving others, we can learn to help ourselves and our families.</p><p>It is a shame that such impulses are not instinctual (hence the reason why airlines have to remind to you put on your oxygen mask before assisting your neighbor), but we are contradictory beings.</p><p>Accept the ambiguity and respect both service to others and our quests for personal virtue. They go hand in hand.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:32 AM</p><p>There is no apathy in my life. And there are also many distractions. I have spent years dancing with dolphins and whales as a SCUBA diver and know them more than many and for this I am grateful.</p><p>What is more noble than the ambition of saving oneself?</p><p>Doctor King was a whale, if you will. He was saving himself, his family, and his community. I am surprised that you overlooked that.</p><p>So, maybe I am not so naive.</p><p>And the most valuable lessons are in fact gleaned from serving others, but try to keep it local. As in your spouse, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your community. If you have energy left over, then spend it along the same vein.</p><p>The nature of the world is not really as it seems. Try to only serve others you can touch, see, feel, help, interact with, and live with.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 10:47 AM</p><p>Dr. King was a philanderer saint.</p><p>Beethoven was an abusive genius.</p><p>Ghandi&#8230;well, he was all good.</p><p>The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.</p><p>I know you&#8217;re neither naieve nor apathetic, so don&#8217;t come off like it by saying, &#8220;saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.&#8221;</p><p>If people don&#8217;t save the trees there will be no more familes to save.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:57 AM</p><p>As for one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, it makes more than more sense to me now that Roman Catholic priests are celibate. There are fewer distractions.</p><p>I am not saying that one should not perform one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work. But not to the harm of what really matters.</p><p>And I am not talking about one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, nor am I talking about destiny. What I am saying is that no matter how noble one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work may seem and no matter how important one&#8217;s destiny is, it is not remotely as important as serving your spouse, your children, your family, and your community.</p><p>There is nothing as modest, as honest, as life-affirming, and life-changing as that.</p><p>There is more harm done by a man who has a destiny, a noble aim, a a life&#8217;s work than anything else.</p><p>You mentioned Dr. King, Beethoven, and Ghandi.</p><p>I will mention some other men who have had life&#8217;s work and noble aims who lost site of themselves, their children, their family, and their community:</p><p>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong.</p><p>All men who didn&#8217;t put their &#8220;life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.&#8221;</p><p>To take it one step further, these men, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong, might have turned out differently if their mom, dad, family, and friends where better parents to them.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 11:34 AM</p><p>cop out.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 11:56 AM</p><p>There are many highly-gifted people in the world who have been treated like the young Gautama.</p><p>They are coddled, protected, and spoiled so that they may be allowed to focus on their destiny.</p><p>They distiny is as likely to be that of a surgeon, a scientist, a lawyer, a competitive skater, an athelete, a beauty queen, a pianist, a painter, a poet, or a priest as it is the King of the Whales.</p><p>There needs to be balance in all things. And what is the saddest part of this entire conversations is that the same man who said, &#8220;The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers&#8221; is also the man who spent months living in India.</p><p>I have never focused this on not saving the whales or not saving the forests but rather how much easier it is to forgive the distraction from the truth if that distraction is in fact popular or noble.</p><p>It&#8217;s neither nuclear family and Wall $treet, nor domestic abuse and whales.</p><p>There are countless great parents who are plenty involved with money, and plenty of awful parents who do invaluable work for their communities but are awful husbands and wives, who are awful parents to their children, and who are able to rationalize their entire failure because they have done some things that really don&#8217;t matter too much at the end of life really anyway.</p><p>There is another black and white annoyance: that money equals bad and activism equals good.</p><p>Sometimes entropy isn&#8217;t death. very often, it isn&#8217;t. Sometimes to struggle so hard for something that is so far removed and so not part of one&#8217;s life is like struggling in quicksand.</p><p>Not only is it a waste of energy, but the unintended consequence &#8212; sinking faster and being alienated from a helping hand &#8212; is worse than anything you could ever imagine.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 1:16 PM</p><p>there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of altruism to prop up their self-esteem, which suffers from things like failing to take care of their families or failing to succeed in relationships. it&#8217;s a shame, really.</p><p>Posted by: sam | April 12, 2005 8:30 AM</p><p>Sam, that&#8217;s the perfect way of saying it. And I can even make it more generic to better support my point, if you don&#8217;t mind, &#8220;there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of destiny to prop up their self-esteem.&#8221; The same stuff that makes the chairman of GE great and successful is the stuff that makes up the chairman of WWF as well.</p><p>My concern &#8212; and the reason I wrote the piece &#8212; is that the chairman of GE doesn&#8217;t suffer from the &#8220;noble aim&#8221; aspect, which might make the avarice and work ethic and profit motive more authentic and honest.</p><p>And is that better than a false sense of altruism?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 9:32 AM</p><p>Yes, the avarice and work ethic may be honest and authentic, but avarice is a product of disappointment toward selfless service. Avarice and profit are easy. They come naturally, but so does the violence instinct. It is the mark of a civilized human to control such instincts.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world composed of either selfless service or &#8220;avarice and work ethic and profit motive&#8221;, which would you prefer?</p><p>Posted by: Bryan | April 12, 2005 9:49 AM</p><p>Chris, Dickens had the same reservations as you about what he termed Telescopic Philanthropy. You&#8217;re not alone!</p><p>Posted by: Mike | April 12, 2005 10:38 AM</p><p>In their purest form, I would choose service. I have a dear friend who is Mormon and she told me that service is the most important thing to the LDS. But when it comes to service, nobody is a professional and the service is inclusive of the family.</p><p>I like that. That makes sense to me.</p><p>I am also not saying that there is anything wrong with an obsessive workaholic president of Save the Whales.</p><p>I mean, there needs to be sacrifice in life and pain in order to grow and evolve.</p><p>But when a child is involved &#8212; when a family is being made &#8212; then things indeed should change.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world in which you would have to choose between saving all the whales and saving one child, which would you choose?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:05 AM</p><p>With regards to Telescopic Philanthropy, I see the same thing with Mr. Margaret Thatcher. The thing is, with spouses, there is a certain level of conscious or unconscious choice in the matter.</p><p>With children, there is no choice in the matter. Although the subsumed spouse might become toxic and bitter &#8212; or not &#8212; at the loss of self to the shining qualities of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, there is still no less of a choice, really, in the matter.</p><p>It boils down to, if you&#8217;re unhappy, leave.</p><p>But choosing to have children is an entirely different matter.</p><p>Having children can either be the most generous or the most selfish act in the entire world.</p><p>An additional note is that psychologically-speaking, the same people who end up in a role such as Mrs Jellyby&#8217;s or Mrs Thatcher&#8217;s tend also to have narcissistic qualities.</p><p>And narcissists are the most compelling mates and the most incapable of being partners and parents. Funny how that works.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:16 AM</p><p>Without reading each entry and assimilating them all to produce a cogent statement (because I&#8217;m busy at work), let me make the following observations and then close with the greatest quote ever spoken.</p><p>1) There are causes noble enough that you should sacrifice your children. Chief among them is service to your nation in a time where its existence is threatened. As Abraham Lincoln once said to women grieving the loss of their children during the civil war,</p><p>&#8220;I cannot refrain from tendering to you the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly father may assuage the anguish of your bereavements and leave you only the cherished memories of the loved and the lost and the solemn pride that must be yours to have made so costly a sacrifice upon the alter of freedom.&#8221;</p><p>2) Nobody (worth hearing) is suggesting that saving the whales is more important, or equally important, to tending to our social fabric. What they are saying, if you listen with a carefully bent ear, is that through fostering care for things other than ourselves we create a society that by virtue of its interest in things besides itself, takes good care of itself. Without a strong social network, these other less paramount causes could garner no attention.</p><p>&#8220;It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.&#8221;</p><p>Theodore Roosevelt (26th U.S. president (1901-09), 1858-1919)</p><p>Posted by: Justin | April 12, 2005 12:44 PM</p><p>could we change &#8220;whales&#8221; to &#8220;the unborn&#8221;?</p><p>Posted by: max solon | April 12, 2005 12:48 PM</p><p>I fully agree with you, but isn&#8217;t that called duty? And isn&#8217;t that the choice of the child? The child is not being sacrificed for the parent but rather the child is sacrificing his own life. That soldier is a whale. That soldier is sacrificing his life for his spouse, his children, his family, his friends, his community, and his country.</p><p>Entirely different, in my opinion, but important none-the-less.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 3:56 PM</p><p>Yea. I see the problem.</p><p>We should take control of our families and sort out all our family problems.</p><p>What about taking them to the ocean? We could all look for the whales together!</p><p>No, waste of time. What if we don&#8217;t sort out our problems when we&#8217;re there? We might all get lost in some sadly transient awe at the beauty of the whales &#8211; or probably just the idea of whales. For precious moments we&#8217;d forget the problems we went there to sort.<br
/> My family is not weak!<br
/> And who&#8217;s driving?</p><p>And if all the whales are gone anyway because of whalers, or depleted fish stocks from crazy fishing, or deafening submarine engines interfering in their songs, we&#8217;re only going to get frustrated at humanity&#8217;s impotence in the face of these vital industries.<br
/> I can do without that.<br
/> And they have no rhythm as far as I can tell.</p><p>Let&#8217;s relax with the tv newstoons and a healthy tuna salad, and save up the money from work for a good holiday one day. Disney? Hope we don&#8217;t use it all up on therapy first.<br
/> Or they grow up.</p><p>Forget the whales. You only live once.</p><p>Posted by: Hugh Whiting | April 12, 2005 9:48 PM</p><p>I think you&#8217;ve got your focus slightly wrong here, because you&#8217;re centering on &#8220;activists&#8221; when you should be thinking of all parents.</p><p>I know several handfuls of people who were scared and abandoned children, and the few who were raised by nannies were the lucky ones. Some of those abandoned children had parents at home, but they were so involved in business that they never saw their kids. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;activism,&#8221; it&#8217;s about abandoning your family for anything, and we shouldn&#8217;t confuse the two.</p><p>All the actual activists I&#8217;ve known share their activism with their families (I used to work for the Sierra Club, so I&#8217;ve known a few).</p><p>P.S., and this is a note for everybody, because this is the third time I&#8217;ve seen the error today: IT&#8217;S SPELLED &#8220;GANDHI.&#8221; G. A. N. D. H. I.</p><p>Posted by: Rika Youngblood | April 12, 2005 10:28 PM</p><p>i disagree with your assessment that the whales can fend for themselves .. they have no chance at all when their home is polluted, their food depleted, and their migration paths are congested with oil tankers .. what&#8217;s worst, we have the power to wipe out the planet (not just a single species) with just a push of the button (in 2002, we were just seven minutes away from midnight on the doomsday clock).</p><p>i have yet to run into children of the green movement who &#8220;are a mess&#8221;. on the contrary, having attended an ultra-liberal college of a progressive town [santa cruz], i have met and befriended many of these second-generation hippies who continue to uphold the various -ISMs (re: liberalism, idealism, etc) and values of their parents. what a wonderful gifts these hippies of yesteryears have given to their children.</p><p>this legacy echoes the teachings of the wisdom keepers of the mohawk nation, who teach their people to respect the land, and that &#8220;&#8230; everything they do affects the Seventh Generation and we must think of the unborn faces looking up from beneath Mother Earth&#8221;.</p><p>though my parents were not part of the green movement, i do believe in it .. and i will save the whales for the both of us.</p><p>Posted by: nam lamore | April 13, 2005 4:20 PM</p><p>Hugh, the entire time I read your comment I thought of the dolphins from Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy! &#8212; thanks for that. But I have to tell you that I don&#8217;t really give a rat&#8217;s twat what you get up to.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 13, 2005 8:23 PM</p><p>What absolute twaddle.</p><p>Where is your evidence to back up the existence of these orphans of ecology? Don&#8217;t you think that there are people that put work before their family in all walks of life?</p><p>You&#8217;re being deliberately provocative. Get a life. Spend some time with your own family and friends instead of wasting your time attempting to bait people on the internet for your own pathetic amusement.</p><p>Posted by: Vilnius Terence | April 14, 2005 10:59 AM</p><p>I think you are bang out of order the people that save the whales are good people and are doing good. I am sure 9 out of ten would not neglected there families because of it and the ones that do are yes in the wrong when I was a little girl saving the whales was my dream<br
/> whales are mammals just like we are they are getting killed by there own species which is not right you are saying we should be stopping the robberies and the murders but by killing the whales you are doing the same to them you are murdering them and robbing them of a family something’s need looking after and at least there are SOME descent people out there that will do it not everyone sees life in the same way you do. if you had a pet dog for example and someone was trying to kill it you would do everything you could to save it because it is part of the family some people see whales in that way. How would you feel if you were just sitting at home with your family and someone shot a harpoon at you? Well that’s what it is like for them.<br
/> just imagine(I don’t no if you have kids) that you were sitting at home with your kids and someone captured you or killed you just think about what it would do to your kids but at least they would have other family or they would have the opinion of foster care or adoption. but those poor whales probably don’t have help like that they would be all alone and maybe too young to know how to survive on their own so I think in the future instead of being lost in your own little world and think its the saving the whales that is doing it think again because they need as much help as we do. And if you are so bovered about the community I hope you are out there doing something for it. Infact why don’t you go out there and do something now instead of wasting your time writing this web site moaning about there whale savers and do something for the community yours sincerely jess</p><p>Posted by: jess | May 13, 2005 9:31 AM</p><p>this is sick we can save ourslevs we have a voice of our own but the whales dont so if they cant speak to stick up for themslves who will? because it is clear u wont. i would and that is a fact u mybe should listen because it is your people that is causing the problem with the whales.</p><p>Posted by: stephanie | May 23, 2005 4:41 AM</p><p>If the vast majority of people who aren&#8217;t inclined towards saving the whales and such, were instead spending their free time trying to truly take care of their families, spouses &amp; communities I might see validity to your argument&#8230;as it is this post just looks like liberal-baiting to me.</p><p>Whatever. You guys are right. We suck. Money is king. Whatever.</p><p>Posted by: Cary | June 21, 2005 2:53 PM</p><p>You can always catch a liberal if you use a whale as bait!</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 21, 2005 4:44 PM</p><p>what a stupid article.</p><p>Posted by: Urb | June 21, 2005 9:05 PM</p><p>Your argument is astonishing to me. If you can honestly re-read it two times and not see the mile-wide holes in your reasoning you might need to take some time to think things over. Really.</p><p>Suffice to say that if this is the way you feel then I&#8217;m thinking that you have some learning to do about what a relationship is, what a marriage is and what raising a child is. Let&#8217;s set your gloss on activism == children raised by nannies aside. That is a deep issue with a whole spectra of situations that you are lumping into the most negative terminus.</p><p>You don&#8217;t raise a child by commiting yourself to voluntary servitude to him or her &#8212; nor do you &#8216;make a family&#8217; by staying home and staring at them 24/7. Strong people with strong convictions raise children that share these traits. Strong marriages are not made by two people who spend all their time on each other. The best thing you can do for a child is to inspire her by setting an example of what a person can do in this world.</p><p>To hold the opinions that you express within the context of your personal mores is one thing, but to insult *activism* at large and to call people who give a damn and are doing somehting about it bad parents bullshit on stilts.</p><p>Posted by: anon | June 22, 2005 12:09 PM</p><p>You have the honor of missing my point entirely. I think you might be suffering from some sort of deep-seated guilt.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 22, 2005 1:29 PM</p><p>we as humans have a responsibilty to care for all living creatures of this earth as they all have a right to live and we are the ones who have destroyed their homes and species. So it is a responsibility of ours to try protect those species in danger because of the selfish act of others.</p><p>Posted by: Amy | July 9, 2005 1:47 AM</p><p>you obviously is idiot, u must be someone who cares only about urself. please open u eyes and see what people like u are doing to animals. IDIOT</p><p>Posted by: lin jia yi | July 11, 2005 8:13 AM</p><p>first of all Mr.Abraham does make a point, if your life isn&#8217;t well put together you shouldn&#8217;t particate in any other extra curricular activities. However,he fails to mention other activities people particate in that aren&#8217;t for the environment,anmails/endangered species,or other worthwhile cause that never the less can disrrupt homes,childhoods,&amp; break families such as:homeless, needy, abuse, disabiled, &amp; feed the children. but these aren&#8217;t mentioned, why . . .?</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:14 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham I must say you speak of neglected children,&amp; husbands. can you prove anything you say? And if you can tell us how many people are neglected because of their parents jobs, hobbies, and everyday life who aren&#8217;t rooted in some cause and are just living in a regular town, would you? There are problems in life &amp; marriage due to nothing but their own faults, to not think so &amp; live in a perfect world is denial.I suggest you open your eyes.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:35 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham,I respect other people&#8217;s opinions.You do not.That I refuse to respect,the lives of others &amp; how the are lived are not yours to dictate to.You probley have a nice apt. in a upscale N.Y. neighborhood. Must be nice. You&#8217;ve had everything handed to you in a silver spoon. I don&#8217;t discriminate agianst the rich even though i am not. But for the poor who live in the wild or country nature is greatly loved,respected,&amp;cared for.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:49 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, you must watch your views &amp; how you express them because you can offend many people,I was very offended by your statements and took it personally.It hurt,and I thought of all the others you&#8217;ve hurt by this. I suggest you apologize to the envirnmental community.I don&#8217;t apphreciate your calling Dr.King a &#8220;philanderer saint&#8221; and suggest you appologize to the black community as well.One day you may wake up and see how precious our world is.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:01 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, this is my last post.I know your thinking &#8220;thank god&#8221;. But in short i will speak a quote of love ,honesty,&amp; truth. &#8221; The wonderous world under sea &amp; land, in the big scheme of things one life may seem insugnifficant but it&#8217;s the greatest gift we know and we cannot let this world of light, love ,and beauty perish.&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:09 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A CRAZY, CRAZY TOOL.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:20 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A FREAKY FREAKY FREAK.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:21 PM</p><p>My ex long ago abandoned our son for native american/worker/prison issues. The worst part is my 18-yr-old son who was dragged to the W.T.O. when he was 13(although it makes for a good story to say he&#8217;s been teargassed)-my son only sees the hypocrisy in the hardcore activists&#8211;thinking of them as angry and sad without any stability or truth.</p><p>Posted by: christina | July 12, 2005 7:19 PM</p><p>Your thoughts are disturbing because if you cannot enjoy the utter beauty we have in our world you are really disturbed. This page is sick and unfortunatly I visited this sight BLAH&#8230;.SAVE THE WHALES</p><p>Posted by: Crystal | July 12, 2005 8:22 PM</p><p>Save the Earth, KILL YER SELF!!!!</p><p>Posted by: Martin Jones | July 26, 2005 4:17 PM</p><p>love animals keep them safe. would if u were a whale oh yeah lets just 4get u. u r nothing.GOD put thing here 4 a reson life is a leason. u will get whats coming.SAVE WHALES,CARE 4 THEM.</p><p>Posted by: ryah | July 26, 2005 8:59 PM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur article</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 5:32 AM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur artical</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 9:50 AM</p><p>Sorry I don&#8217;t think like you At ALL!!!</p><p>Posted by: Bobbie | August 1, 2005 3:48 AM</p><p>You are really twisted aren&#8217;t you. so you think we should focus on other things no we shouldn&#8217;t im 13 and i am trying to save the animals from people like you. Sick people who are self centered and don&#8217;t care for others. You need to get your head out of your *** and open your eyes. You wouldn&#8217;t like for someone to kill you without question and make lipstick or shampoo out of you would you??? Animals that live in the water are being killed for your convience so you can have shampoo. i don&#8217;t think so buddy. I bet you go out there and kill them so you can be satified. Well you know what we&#8217;ll stop people like you from hurting the animals we love. Without or with out your help. So when all the animals are gone we&#8217;ll start making shampoo and lipstick out of people like you so you know what it fells like to be them. So you know how much pain people put tem through. Woould you like a harpoon explosive shot into your brain and blow up and kill you then hit you repeatedly with an axe. So you need to get your head out of your***</p><p>Posted by: Cayla Rene | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>You are really crule huh? dude you have to save the whales. they are killing the whales just so they can make soap to rub all over your body .well i am 13 and i am trying to save the whales . so people like yuo dont get to kill them. you are really wrong and dont care one bit about the animals under the sea. well you should.whales , orcas , sharks and other mammals die just to make new and stupid improved products. you are a *** and you need to care about the animals they have dont nothing to you and you want to kill them well dont. cause me and my friends cayla will beat your ***<br
/> you need to care. well would you want to die just to make lipstick and shampoo.</p><p>write back and i will tell you more abourt the animals you need to car eabout what they do for you there are only a hundred remaining in the world .soon there will be no more and then it will make you happy huh well you need to get your head out of the gutter . when all the animals are gone what are u gonna do we are gonna blame you!!!!!!!!!</p><p>Posted by: ALexa RAe | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>you might think that whales dont matter but your wrong. ya you need to take care of your family but we also need to save are world. all of you that sont think that the whales arent important than you SUCK.</p><p>Posted by: chalsea | February 15, 2007 6:44 PM</p><p>What are you talking about&gt; Yes its important to have a stable life at home for your family and children, but if the enviroment itself isn&#8217;t saved by these noble people an other people around the world then that home you are trying to stabilze and love will not exists and the ones you love will suffer, because people like you thought it was unimportant to save the whales!!! So if we dont start repairing our enviroment now we will end up suffering for it later on!!! So wake up and save the Whales ASSHOLE</p><p>Posted by: Someone | February 20, 2007 8:53 PM</p><p>Dont blame the whales or conservationists for human frailities and faults.</p><p>I have a great husband and marriage, great kids with whom i spend alot of my tme, I also support Whale conservation with time and money i have availiable. Get a grip!! Its not the Whales fault thatthey are being slaughtered&#8230; It is HUMAN GREED and arrogance. It is not the whales fault the people lose sight of everything but their cause&#8230;.It is HUMAN STUPIDITY and again arrogance. Dont blame the whales and their plight for human faults after all it happens with more than just save the whales.</p><p>Miri Furlong<br
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/> www.ethnic-aotearoa.co.nz</p><p>Posted by: Miri Furlong | February 21, 2007 2:21 AM</p><p>you are so self centered!! how would you feel if some body wanted to kill you!!!! don&#8217;t even try to say you wouldn&#8217;t care!! I&#8217;m elizabeth christian and i think everyone should help save the whales!!! LOSER!! FREAK!! WEIRDO!!</p><p>Posted by: Elizabeth Christian | February 28, 2007 1:59 PM</p><p>you are the biggest idiot on the face of the earth!!! you don&#8217;t understand the value of life its self!!! tou are so retarted!!!!!!!</p><p>YOU IDIOT!!</p><p>Posted by: Elizabeth | February 28, 2007 2:02 PM</p><p>YOU ARE SO RETARDED!! hope you choke on a piece of beef jerky!!</p><p>Posted by: elizabeth | February 28, 2007 2:20 PM</p><p>your stupid!!!<br
/> dont say dont save the whales because you need to save yourself first. i love whales and im trying t save whales and im only 17 i have loving parents who are also trying to save whales and were not disfunctional or falling apart or any thing you said were just fine and to generalize that all people who try and save our planet are neglecting their families is BULL. your just pissed that you cant save the world and you probably cant fix your own family.</p><p>Posted by: Zayna | May 18, 2007 8:00 PM</p><p>You are very stupid. No more comments.</p><p>Posted by: Gabriel | May 28, 2007 9:07 AM</p><p>I may well be stupid, but I am not alone. Thanks for joining me.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | May 28, 2007 12:22 PM</p><p>SAVE THE WORLD! SAVE THE WHALES!</p><p>Posted by: Mauricio J. Solórzano | June 6, 2007 12:27 PM</p><p>God Agrees with Chris Abraham That We Should not Save the Whales (well, at least Paul does&#8230; but then, he&#8217;s a rabid homophobe and a chauvinist pig, so&#8230;)</p><p>In any case, it&#8217;s in the scriptures, so it&#8217;s right.</p><p>1 Timothy 3</p><p>This saying is trustworthy: &#8220;If anyone aspires to be a leader of his community, he desires a noble work.&#8221; Such a leader, therefore, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, self-controlled, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an able teacher, not addicted to wine, not a bully but gentle, not quarrelsome, not greedy; one who manages his own household competently, having his children under control with all dignity. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of God&#8217;s house?) He must not be a new convert, or he might become conceited and fall into the condemnation of the Devil. Furthermore, he must have a good reputation among outsiders, so that he does not fall into disgrace and the Devil&#8217;s trap.</p><p>Posted by: Mark Harrison | August 13, 2007 7:13 AM</p><p>I am surely and indeed a Godly man. Fuck the whales.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | August 14, 2007 11:19 PM</p><p>i&#8217;m not sure of what your point is?! whats wrong with trying to save the whales, or any animal for that matter? why are you saying that only whales shouldn&#8217;t be saved? why not all other endangered species? i think you are wrong as i know many do, but i do not see your selfish view as to be right, yes you can look after your family or whatever your trying to say, but why not doing things for other people or animals other than yourself? please enlighten me with your selfish attitude to life</p><p>Posted by: Save The Whales | August 17, 2007 1:06 PM</p><div
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/> After 15-years in DC, I have noticed that those noble activists who are saving the world have yet to save themselves, their marriages, their families, and their children.</p><p>The children of many of the founders of these organizations are a mess, with boys and girls as scared and abandoned as the children of their more celebrated Hollywood celebrities and New York robber barons. They are cared for by nannies and oftentimes never see their parents for weeks at a time.</p><p>All because one or more of their parents are making sacrifices for a higher, nobler cause: saving the planet. Or some similar <em>cause célèbre</em>.</p><p>The illusion of nobility associated with saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the planet, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.</p><p>If you have all of your ducks in a row, if your children are happy and well-adjusted, if your health is good and you get enough sleep and exercise, if you still chase your spouse around the bed pretty regularly, and you call your mother, with energy to spare for yourself, then you have the right to save the planet.</p><p>Otherwise, you are chasing phantoms, you are wasting your time, and you had better still yourself enough to remember why you got married, why you had children, and whether the planet really matters to you any more or if you&#8217;re just used to saving the planet.</p><p>Otherwise, let the planet fend for itself for a little while while you get yourself together.</p><p>If you disrespect your own family enough to abandon them for your noble cause then the planet is better off without you. Resign from your save the planet campaign immediately, move to New York, and settle in to a life on Wall Street.</p><p>If you&#8217;re going to be ignoble, you might as well do it for money. TMother earth recognizes hypocrisy when she sees it and she doesn&#8217;t want any of your filthy lucre anyway.<br
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/11/dont-save-the-whales/" rel="nofollow">Don&#8217;t Save the Whales</a></strong><strong>:</strong></p><blockquote><p>Understandable sentiment, and an easy crutch for our own apathy, but life is not so black and white.</p><p>To continue with a racial theme and abuse an overused metaphor, would you have had Dr. King abandon his quest for civil rights in favor of couples therapy?</p><p>Granted, whales and trees are not sentient beings like the African Americans who were fire-hosed in Selma, but it&#8217;s naieve to write off noble ambitions because one&#8217;s self is not already enlightened.</p><p>In many of the great religious traditions service is actually means to personal salvation. Through serving others, we can learn to help ourselves and our families.It is a shame that such impulses are not instinctual (hence the reason why airlines have to remind to you put on your oxygen mask before assisting your neighbor), but we are contradictory beings.</p><p>Accept the ambiguity and respect both service to others and our quests for personal virtue. They go hand in hand.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:32 AM</p><p>There is no apathy in my life. And there are also many distractions. I have spent years dancing with dolphins and whales as a SCUBA diver and know them more than many and for this I am grateful.</p><p>What is more noble than the ambition of saving oneself?</p><p>Doctor King was a whale, if you will. He was saving himself, his family, and his community. I am surprised that you overlooked that.</p><p>So, maybe I am not so naive.</p><p>And the most valuable lessons are in fact gleaned from serving others, but try to keep it local. As in your spouse, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your community. If you have energy left over, then spend it along the same vein.</p><p>The nature of the world is not really as it seems. Try to only serve others you can touch, see, feel, help, interact with, and live with.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 10:47 AM</p><p>Dr. King was a philanderer saint.</p><p>Beethoven was an abusive genius.Ghandi&#8230;well, he was all good.</p><p>The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.</p><p>I know you&#8217;re neither naieve nor apathetic, so don&#8217;t come off like it by saying, &#8220;saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.&#8221;</p><p>If people don&#8217;t save the trees there will be no more familes to save.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:57 AM</p><p>As for one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, it makes more than more sense to me now that Roman Catholic priests are celibate. There are fewer distractions.</p><p>I am not saying that one should not perform one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work. But not to the harm of what really matters.</p><p>And I am not talking about one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, nor am I talking about destiny. What I am saying is that no matter how noble one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work may seem and no matter how important one&#8217;s destiny is, it is not remotely as important as serving your spouse, your children, your family, and your community.</p><p>There is nothing as modest, as honest, as life-affirming, and life-changing as that.</p><p>There is more harm done by a man who has a destiny, a noble aim, a a life&#8217;s work than anything else.</p><p>You mentioned Dr. King, Beethoven, and Ghandi.</p><p>I will mention some other men who have had life&#8217;s work and noble aims who lost site of themselves, their children, their family, and their community:</p><p>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong.</p><p>All men who didn&#8217;t put their &#8220;life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.&#8221;</p><p>To take it one step further, these men, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong, might have turned out differently if their mom, dad, family, and friends where better parents to them.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 11:34 AM</p><p>cop out.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 11:56 AM</p><p>There are many highly-gifted people in the world who have been treated like the young Gautama.</p><p>They are coddled, protected, and spoiled so that they may be allowed to focus on their destiny.</p><p>They distiny is as likely to be that of a surgeon, a scientist, a lawyer, a competitive skater, an athelete, a beauty queen, a pianist, a painter, a poet, or a priest as it is the King of the Whales.</p><p>There needs to be balance in all things. And what is the saddest part of this entire conversations is that the same man who said, &#8220;The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers&#8221; is also the man who spent months living in India.</p><p>I have never focused this on not saving the whales or not saving the forests but rather how much easier it is to forgive the distraction from the truth if that distraction is in fact popular or noble.</p><p>It&#8217;s neither nuclear family and Wall $treet, nor domestic abuse and whales.</p><p>There are countless great parents who are plenty involved with money, and plenty of awful parents who do invaluable work for their communities but are awful husbands and wives, who are awful parents to their children, and who are able to rationalize their entire failure because they have done some things that really don&#8217;t matter too much at the end of life really anyway.</p><p>There is another black and white annoyance: that money equals bad and activism equals good.</p><p>Sometimes entropy isn&#8217;t death. very often, it isn&#8217;t. Sometimes to struggle so hard for something that is so far removed and so not part of one&#8217;s life is like struggling in quicksand.</p><p>Not only is it a waste of energy, but the unintended consequence &#8212; sinking faster and being alienated from a helping hand &#8212; is worse than anything you could ever imagine.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 1:16 PM</p><p>there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of altruism to prop up their self-esteem, which suffers from things like failing to take care of their families or failing to succeed in relationships. it&#8217;s a shame, really.</p><p>Posted by: sam | April 12, 2005 8:30 AM</p><p>Sam, that&#8217;s the perfect way of saying it. And I can even make it more generic to better support my point, if you don&#8217;t mind, &#8220;there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of destiny to prop up their self-esteem.&#8221; The same stuff that makes the chairman of GE great and successful is the stuff that makes up the chairman of WWF as well.</p><p>My concern &#8212; and the reason I wrote the piece &#8212; is that the chairman of GE doesn&#8217;t suffer from the &#8220;noble aim&#8221; aspect, which might make the avarice and work ethic and profit motive more authentic and honest.</p><p>And is that better than a false sense of altruism?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 9:32 AM</p><p>Yes, the avarice and work ethic may be honest and authentic, but avarice is a product of disappointment toward selfless service. Avarice and profit are easy. They come naturally, but so does the violence instinct. It is the mark of a civilized human to control such instincts.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world composed of either selfless service or &#8220;avarice and work ethic and profit motive&#8221;, which would you prefer?</p><p>Posted by: Bryan | April 12, 2005 9:49 AM</p><p>Chris, Dickens had the same reservations as you about what he termed Telescopic Philanthropy. You&#8217;re not alone!</p><p>Posted by: Mike | April 12, 2005 10:38 AM</p><p>In their purest form, I would choose service. I have a dear friend who is Mormon and she told me that service is the most important thing to the LDS. But when it comes to service, nobody is a professional and the service is inclusive of the family.</p><p>I like that. That makes sense to me.</p><p>I am also not saying that there is anything wrong with an obsessive workaholic president of Save the Whales.</p><p>I mean, there needs to be sacrifice in life and pain in order to grow and evolve.</p><p>But when a child is involved &#8212; when a family is being made &#8212; then things indeed should change.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world in which you would have to choose between saving all the whales and saving one child, which would you choose?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:05 AM</p><p>With regards to Telescopic Philanthropy, I see the same thing with Mr. Margaret Thatcher. The thing is, with spouses, there is a certain level of conscious or unconscious choice in the matter.</p><p>With children, there is no choice in the matter. Although the subsumed spouse might become toxic and bitter &#8212; or not &#8212; at the loss of self to the shining qualities of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, there is still no less of a choice, really, in the matter.</p><p>It boils down to, if you&#8217;re unhappy, leave.</p><p>But choosing to have children is an entirely different matter.</p><p>Having children can either be the most generous or the most selfish act in the entire world.</p><p>An additional note is that psychologically-speaking, the same people who end up in a role such as Mrs Jellyby&#8217;s or Mrs Thatcher&#8217;s tend also to have narcissistic qualities.</p><p>And narcissists are the most compelling mates and the most incapable of being partners and parents. Funny how that works.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:16 AM</p><p>Without reading each entry and assimilating them all to produce a cogent statement (because I&#8217;m busy at work), let me make the following observations and then close with the greatest quote ever spoken.</p><p>1) There are causes noble enough that you should sacrifice your children. Chief among them is service to your nation in a time where its existence is threatened. As Abraham Lincoln once said to women grieving the loss of their children during the civil war,</p><p>&#8220;I cannot refrain from tendering to you the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly father may assuage the anguish of your bereavements and leave you only the cherished memories of the loved and the lost and the solemn pride that must be yours to have made so costly a sacrifice upon the alter of freedom.&#8221;</p><p>2) Nobody (worth hearing) is suggesting that saving the whales is more important, or equally important, to tending to our social fabric. What they are saying, if you listen with a carefully bent ear, is that through fostering care for things other than ourselves we create a society that by virtue of its interest in things besides itself, takes good care of itself. Without a strong social network, these other less paramount causes could garner no attention.</p><p>&#8220;It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.&#8221;</p><p>Theodore Roosevelt (26th U.S. president (1901-09), 1858-1919)</p><p>Posted by: Justin | April 12, 2005 12:44 PM</p><p>could we change &#8220;whales&#8221; to &#8220;the unborn&#8221;?</p><p>Posted by: max solon | April 12, 2005 12:48 PM</p><p>I fully agree with you, but isn&#8217;t that called duty? And isn&#8217;t that the choice of the child? The child is not being sacrificed for the parent but rather the child is sacrificing his own life. That soldier is a whale. That soldier is sacrificing his life for his spouse, his children, his family, his friends, his community, and his country.</p><p>Entirely different, in my opinion, but important none-the-less.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 3:56 PM</p><p>Yea. I see the problem.</p><p>We should take control of our families and sort out all our family problems.</p><p>What about taking them to the ocean? We could all look for the whales together!</p><p>No, waste of time. What if we don&#8217;t sort out our problems when we&#8217;re there? We might all get lost in some sadly transient awe at the beauty of the whales &#8211; or probably just the idea of whales. For precious moments we&#8217;d forget the problems we went there to sort.<br
/> My family is not weak!<br
/> And who&#8217;s driving?</p><p>And if all the whales are gone anyway because of whalers, or depleted fish stocks from crazy fishing, or deafening submarine engines interfering in their songs, we&#8217;re only going to get frustrated at humanity&#8217;s impotence in the face of these vital industries.<br
/> I can do without that.<br
/> And they have no rhythm as far as I can tell.</p><p>Let&#8217;s relax with the tv newstoons and a healthy tuna salad, and save up the money from work for a good holiday one day. Disney? Hope we don&#8217;t use it all up on therapy first.<br
/> Or they grow up.</p><p>Forget the whales. You only live once.</p><p>Posted by: Hugh Whiting | April 12, 2005 9:48 PM</p><p>I think you&#8217;ve got your focus slightly wrong here, because you&#8217;re centering on &#8220;activists&#8221; when you should be thinking of all parents.</p><p>I know several handfuls of people who were scared and abandoned children, and the few who were raised by nannies were the lucky ones. Some of those abandoned children had parents at home, but they were so involved in business that they never saw their kids. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;activism,&#8221; it&#8217;s about abandoning your family for anything, and we shouldn&#8217;t confuse the two.</p><p>All the actual activists I&#8217;ve known share their activism with their families (I used to work for the Sierra Club, so I&#8217;ve known a few).</p><p>P.S., and this is a note for everybody, because this is the third time I&#8217;ve seen the error today: IT&#8217;S SPELLED &#8220;GANDHI.&#8221; G. A. N. D. H. I.</p><p>Posted by: Rika Youngblood | April 12, 2005 10:28 PM</p><p>i disagree with your assessment that the whales can fend for themselves .. they have no chance at all when their home is polluted, their food depleted, and their migration paths are congested with oil tankers .. what&#8217;s worst, we have the power to wipe out the planet (not just a single species) with just a push of the button (in 2002, we were just seven minutes away from midnight on the doomsday clock).</p><p>i have yet to run into children of the green movement who &#8220;are a mess&#8221;. on the contrary, having attended an ultra-liberal college of a progressive town [santa cruz], i have met and befriended many of these second-generation hippies who continue to uphold the various -ISMs (re: liberalism, idealism, etc) and values of their parents. what a wonderful gifts these hippies of yesteryears have given to their children.</p><p>this legacy echoes the teachings of the wisdom keepers of the mohawk nation, who teach their people to respect the land, and that &#8220;&#8230; everything they do affects the Seventh Generation and we must think of the unborn faces looking up from beneath Mother Earth&#8221;.</p><p>though my parents were not part of the green movement, i do believe in it .. and i will save the whales for the both of us.</p><p>Posted by: nam lamore | April 13, 2005 4:20 PM</p><p>Hugh, the entire time I read your comment I thought of the dolphins from Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy! &#8212; thanks for that. But I have to tell you that I don&#8217;t really give a rat&#8217;s twat what you get up to.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 13, 2005 8:23 PM</p><p>What absolute twaddle.</p><p>Where is your evidence to back up the existence of these orphans of ecology? Don&#8217;t you think that there are people that put work before their family in all walks of life?</p><p>You&#8217;re being deliberately provocative. Get a life. Spend some time with your own family and friends instead of wasting your time attempting to bait people on the internet for your own pathetic amusement.</p><p>Posted by: Vilnius Terence | April 14, 2005 10:59 AM</p><p>I think you are bang out of order the people that save the whales are good people and are doing good. I am sure 9 out of ten would not neglected there families because of it and the ones that do are yes in the wrong when I was a little girl saving the whales was my dream<br
/> whales are mammals just like we are they are getting killed by there own species which is not right you are saying we should be stopping the robberies and the murders but by killing the whales you are doing the same to them you are murdering them and robbing them of a family something’s need looking after and at least there are SOME descent people out there that will do it not everyone sees life in the same way you do. if you had a pet dog for example and someone was trying to kill it you would do everything you could to save it because it is part of the family some people see whales in that way. How would you feel if you were just sitting at home with your family and someone shot a harpoon at you? Well that’s what it is like for them.<br
/> just imagine(I don’t no if you have kids) that you were sitting at home with your kids and someone captured you or killed you just think about what it would do to your kids but at least they would have other family or they would have the opinion of foster care or adoption. but those poor whales probably don’t have help like that they would be all alone and maybe too young to know how to survive on their own so I think in the future instead of being lost in your own little world and think its the saving the whales that is doing it think again because they need as much help as we do. And if you are so bovered about the community I hope you are out there doing something for it. Infact why don’t you go out there and do something now instead of wasting your time writing this web site moaning about there whale savers and do something for the community yours sincerely jess</p><p>Posted by: jess | May 13, 2005 9:31 AM</p><p>this is sick we can save ourslevs we have a voice of our own but the whales dont so if they cant speak to stick up for themslves who will? because it is clear u wont. i would and that is a fact u mybe should listen because it is your people that is causing the problem with the whales.</p><p>Posted by: stephanie | May 23, 2005 4:41 AM</p><p>If the vast majority of people who aren&#8217;t inclined towards saving the whales and such, were instead spending their free time trying to truly take care of their families, spouses &amp; communities I might see validity to your argument&#8230;as it is this post just looks like liberal-baiting to me.</p><p>Whatever. You guys are right. We suck. Money is king. Whatever.</p><p>Posted by: Cary | June 21, 2005 2:53 PM</p><p>You can always catch a liberal if you use a whale as bait!</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 21, 2005 4:44 PM</p><p>what a stupid article.</p><p>Posted by: Urb | June 21, 2005 9:05 PM</p><p>Your argument is astonishing to me. If you can honestly re-read it two times and not see the mile-wide holes in your reasoning you might need to take some time to think things over. Really.</p><p>Suffice to say that if this is the way you feel then I&#8217;m thinking that you have some learning to do about what a relationship is, what a marriage is and what raising a child is. Let&#8217;s set your gloss on activism == children raised by nannies aside. That is a deep issue with a whole spectra of situations that you are lumping into the most negative terminus.</p><p>You don&#8217;t raise a child by commiting yourself to voluntary servitude to him or her &#8212; nor do you &#8216;make a family&#8217; by staying home and staring at them 24/7. Strong people with strong convictions raise children that share these traits. Strong marriages are not made by two people who spend all their time on each other. The best thing you can do for a child is to inspire her by setting an example of what a person can do in this world.</p><p>To hold the opinions that you express within the context of your personal mores is one thing, but to insult *activism* at large and to call people who give a damn and are doing somehting about it bad parents bullshit on stilts.</p><p>Posted by: anon | June 22, 2005 12:09 PM</p><p>You have the honor of missing my point entirely. I think you might be suffering from some sort of deep-seated guilt.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 22, 2005 1:29 PM</p><p>we as humans have a responsibilty to care for all living creatures of this earth as they all have a right to live and we are the ones who have destroyed their homes and species. So it is a responsibility of ours to try protect those species in danger because of the selfish act of others.</p><p>Posted by: Amy | July 9, 2005 1:47 AM</p><p>you obviously is idiot, u must be someone who cares only about urself. please open u eyes and see what people like u are doing to animals. IDIOT</p><p>Posted by: lin jia yi | July 11, 2005 8:13 AM</p><p>first of all Mr.Abraham does make a point, if your life isn&#8217;t well put together you shouldn&#8217;t particate in any other extra curricular activities. However,he fails to mention other activities people particate in that aren&#8217;t for the environment,anmails/endangered species,or other worthwhile cause that never the less can disrrupt homes,childhoods,&amp; break families such as:homeless, needy, abuse, disabiled, &amp; feed the children. but these aren&#8217;t mentioned, why . . .?</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:14 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham I must say you speak of neglected children,&amp; husbands. can you prove anything you say? And if you can tell us how many people are neglected because of their parents jobs, hobbies, and everyday life who aren&#8217;t rooted in some cause and are just living in a regular town, would you? There are problems in life &amp; marriage due to nothing but their own faults, to not think so &amp; live in a perfect world is denial.I suggest you open your eyes.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:35 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham,I respect other people&#8217;s opinions.You do not.That I refuse to respect,the lives of others &amp; how the are lived are not yours to dictate to.You probley have a nice apt. in a upscale N.Y. neighborhood. Must be nice. You&#8217;ve had everything handed to you in a silver spoon. I don&#8217;t discriminate agianst the rich even though i am not. But for the poor who live in the wild or country nature is greatly loved,respected,&amp;cared for.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:49 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, you must watch your views &amp; how you express them because you can offend many people,I was very offended by your statements and took it personally.It hurt,and I thought of all the others you&#8217;ve hurt by this. I suggest you apologize to the envirnmental community.I don&#8217;t apphreciate your calling Dr.King a &#8220;philanderer saint&#8221; and suggest you appologize to the black community as well.One day you may wake up and see how precious our world is.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:01 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, this is my last post.I know your thinking &#8220;thank god&#8221;. But in short i will speak a quote of love ,honesty,&amp; truth. &#8221; The wonderous world under sea &amp; land, in the big scheme of things one life may seem insugnifficant but it&#8217;s the greatest gift we know and we cannot let this world of light, love ,and beauty perish.&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:09 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A CRAZY, CRAZY TOOL.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:20 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A FREAKY FREAKY FREAK.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:21 PM</p><p>My ex long ago abandoned our son for native american/worker/prison issues. The worst part is my 18-yr-old son who was dragged to the W.T.O. when he was 13(although it makes for a good story to say he&#8217;s been teargassed)-my son only sees the hypocrisy in the hardcore activists&#8211;thinking of them as angry and sad without any stability or truth.</p><p>Posted by: christina | July 12, 2005 7:19 PM</p><p>Your thoughts are disturbing because if you cannot enjoy the utter beauty we have in our world you are really disturbed. This page is sick and unfortunatly I visited this sight BLAH&#8230;.SAVE THE WHALES</p><p>Posted by: Crystal | July 12, 2005 8:22 PM</p><p>Save the Earth, KILL YER SELF!!!!</p><p>Posted by: Martin Jones | July 26, 2005 4:17 PM</p><p>love animals keep them safe. would if u were a whale oh yeah lets just 4get u. u r nothing.GOD put thing here 4 a reson life is a leason. u will get whats coming.SAVE WHALES,CARE 4 THEM.</p><p>Posted by: ryah | July 26, 2005 8:59 PM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur article</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 5:32 AM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur artical</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 9:50 AM</p><p>Sorry I don&#8217;t think like you At ALL!!!</p><p>Posted by: Bobbie | August 1, 2005 3:48 AM</p><p>You are really twisted aren&#8217;t you. so you think we should focus on other things no we shouldn&#8217;t im 13 and i am trying to save the animals from people like you. Sick people who are self centered and don&#8217;t care for others. You need to get your head out of your *** and open your eyes. You wouldn&#8217;t like for someone to kill you without question and make lipstick or shampoo out of you would you??? Animals that live in the water are being killed for your convience so you can have shampoo. i don&#8217;t think so buddy. I bet you go out there and kill them so you can be satified. Well you know what we&#8217;ll stop people like you from hurting the animals we love. Without or with out your help. So when all the animals are gone we&#8217;ll start making shampoo and lipstick out of people like you so you know what it fells like to be them. So you know how much pain people put tem through. Woould you like a harpoon explosive shot into your brain and blow up and kill you then hit you repeatedly with an axe. So you need to get your head out of your***</p><p>Posted by: Cayla Rene | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>You are really crule huh? dude you have to save the whales. they are killing the whales just so they can make soap to rub all over your body .well i am 13 and i am trying to save the whales . so people like yuo dont get to kill them. you are really wrong and dont care one bit about the animals under the sea. well you should.whales , orcas , sharks and other mammals die just to make new and stupid improved products. you are a *** and you need to care about the animals they have dont nothing to you and you want to kill them well dont. cause me and my friends cayla will beat your ***<br
/> you need to care. well would you want to die just to make lipstick and shampoo.</p><p>write back and i will tell you more abourt the animals you need to car eabout what they do for you there are only a hundred remaining in the world .soon there will be no more and then it will make you happy huh well you need to get your head out of the gutter . when all the animals are gone what are u gonna do we are gonna blame you!!!!!!!!!</p><p>Posted by: ALexa RAe | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>you might think that whales dont matter but your wrong. ya you need to take care of your family but we also need to save are world. all of you that sont think that the whales arent important than you SUCK.</p><p>Posted by: chalsea | February 15, 2007 6:44 PM</p></blockquote><div
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/> I must admit that my first exposure to Regina Spektor was in <a
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href="http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/sunday/main3445.shtml" rel="nofollow">CBS Sunday Morning</a> this AM. I must also admit that my first reaction was visual and visceral: Regina Spektor is a monumentally beautiful and compelling young woman. Although I lost the first five minutes of the segment to Regina Spektor&#8217;s beauty, I lost the remaining minutes to Regina Spektor&#8217;s story of being a Russian immigrant, her talent as a classically-trained pianist, her experience as an anti-folk singer-songwriter, her modestly as just a tough girl from the Bronx, her whimsy as just a girl, and her playfulness as a wordsmith. I am <em>mesmerized</em> and <em>besotted</em>. Give Regina Spektor a look and listen and I guarantee that you, too, will be besotted, compelled, and mesmerized, be you man or woman, gay or straight.</p><p><strong><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_Spektor" rel="nofollow">Regina Spektor entry on Wikipedia</a></strong></p><p>Regina Spektor (born February 18, 1980) is a Soviet-born American singer-songwriter and pianist. Her music is associated with the anti-folk scene centered on New York City&#8217;s East Village.</p><p><strong>Early life</strong><br
/> Spektor was born in Moscow, Russia, Soviet Union to a musical family. Her father, a photographer, was also an amateur violinist, and her mother was a music professor in a Russian conservatoire; she now teaches at a public elementary school in Mount Vernon, New York.</p><p>Spektor studied classical piano from the age of six, and was also exposed to the music of rock and roll bands such as The Beatles, Queen, and The Moody Blues by her father, who obtained such recordings in Eastern Europe and traded cassettes with friends in the Soviet Union. The family left the Soviet Union in 1989, when Regina was nine, during the period of Perestroika when Jewish citizens were permitted to emigrate. The seriousness of her piano studies led her parents to consider not leaving Russia, but they finally decided to emigrate, for religious and political reasons.</p><p>Travelling first to Austria and then Italy, the family settled in the Bronx, New York, and eventually moved to Fair Lawn, New Jersey, where she finished the last three years of her high school career. Spektor has stated that she was originally interested only in classical music, but later became interested in hip hop, rock, and punk.</p><p><strong>Beginnings as a songwriter</strong><br
/> In New York, Spektor gained a firm grounding in classical music from her piano teacher, Sonia Vargas, a professor at the Manhattan School of Music. Spektor studied with Vargas—whom Spektor&#8217;s father had met through violinist Samuel Marder, Vargas&#8217;s husband—until she was 17.</p><p>Although she had always made up songs around the house, Spektor first became interested in songwriting during a visit to Israel with the Nesiya Institute in her teenage years. Attracting attention from the other children on the trip for the songs she made up while hiking, she realized she had an aptitude for songwriting. Following this trip, she was first exposed to the work of Joni Mitchell, Ani DiFranco, and other singer-songwriters, which gave her the idea that she could create her own songs. She began writing her first a cappella songs around age 16, and wrote her first songs for voice and piano when she was nearly 18.</p><p>Spektor completed the four-year studio composition program of the Conservatory of Music at Purchase College in Purchase, New York within three years, graduating with honors in 2001. She worked briefly at a butterfly farm in Luck, Wisconsin. She gradually achieved recognition through performances in the anti-folk scene in downtown New York City, most importantly at the East Village&#8217;s Sidewalk Cafe. During this period, she sold her self-produced CDs 11:11 (2001) and <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSongs-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000L6COZW%2Fsr%3D1-7%2Fqid%3D1169392444%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic&#038;tag=chrisabraham&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Songs</a><img
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/> Spektor&#8217;s songs rely on a mixture of styles and techniques, often starting with a piano riff but ending with moans, nonsense words, warblings, and other noises. Spektor has said that she has created 700 songs, but that she rarely writes any of them down. Spektor&#8217;s songs are not usually autobiographical, but rather are based on scenarios and characters drawn from her imagination. Her songs show influences from folk, Jewish, Russian, hip hop, jazz, and classical music. Spektor has said that she works hard to ensure that each of her songs has its own musical style, rather than trying to develop a distinctive style for her music as a whole.</p><p>Spektor possesses a broad vocal range and uses the full extent of it. She also explores a variety of different and somewhat unorthodox vocal techniques, such as verses composed entirely of buzzing noises made with the lips, beatbox-style flourishes in the middle of ballads, or the use of a drum stick to tap rhythms on the body of the piano or chair. Part of her style also results from the exaggeration of certain aspects of vocalization, most notably the glottal stop, which is prominent the single &#8220;Fidelity&#8221;. She also uses a strong New York accent on some words, which she has said is due to her love of New York and its culture.</p><p>Her lyrics are equally eclectic, often taking the form of abstract narratives or first-person character studies, similar to short stories or vignettes put to song. Spektor usually sings in English, though she sometimes includes a few words or verses of Latin, Russian, French, and other languages in her songs. Spektor&#8217;s music is further set apart from mainstream folk music by its frequent literary references, such as to F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway in &#8220;Poor Little Rich Boy&#8221;, The Little Prince in &#8220;Baobabs&#8221;, Virginia Woolf and Margaret Atwood in &#8220;Paris&#8221;, Ezra Pound and William Shakespeare in &#8220;Pound of Flesh&#8221;, Boris Pasternak in &#8220;Après Moi&#8221;, and Oedipus the King in &#8220;Oedipus&#8221;. Recurring themes and topics in Spektor&#8217;s lyrics include love, death, religion (particularly Biblical and Christian references), city life (particularly New York references), and certain key phrases have been known to recur in different songs by Spektor, such as references to gravediggers, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and the name &#8220;Mary Ann.&#8221;</p><p>In Spektor&#8217;s early albums, many of her tracks had a very dry vocal production, with very little reverb or delay added. However, Spektor&#8217;s more recent albums, particularly <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Begin%20to%20Hopelocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBegin-Hope-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000FFJ80IBegin%20to%20Hopetag=chrisabrahamBegin%20to%20HopelinkCode=ur2Begin%20to%20Hopecamp=1789Begin%20to%20Hopecreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Begin to Hope</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamBegin%20to%20Hopeamp;l=ur2Begin%20to%20Hopeamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />, have put more emphasis into song production and have relied more on traditional pop and rock instruments.</p><p><strong>Performances</strong><br
/> Since roughly January 2005, Spektor has performed on a bright red Baldwin baby grand piano. She opened for The Strokes in 2003, on her first North American tour. Subsequently, she appeared on Late Night with Conan O&#8217;Brien twice, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno twice, Jimmy Kimmel Live, and Last Call with Carson Daly twice. She has toured the United States and Europe. Although she generally only performs original material, she performed her first covers in 2005, of songs by Leonard Cohen and Madonna for the 2nd Annual Jewish Music &#038; Heritage Festival at the 92nd Street Y in New York City.</p><p>While with The Strokes on their 2003–2004 Room on Fire tour, Spektor performed &#8220;Modern Girls &#038; Old Fashion Men&#8221; alongside the band.</p><p>In 2006, Spektor embarked on a successful headlining tour of the United States and Europe, selling out numerous clubs and theaters.</p><p><strong>Media coverage</strong><br
/> Beginning in 2005, Spektor&#8217;s music has been used in various television programs and commercials. In late 2005 &#8220;Us&#8221; (from <a
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src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamSoviet%20Kitschamp;l=ur2Soviet%20Kitschamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />) was used in a commercial as part of the What Do You Want To Watch? series for the United Kingdom&#8217;s Sky Television. The advert features a clip from a documentary on skateboarder Danny Way. In the summer of 2006, a clip from &#8220;Us&#8221; was used for the teaser website for Microsoft&#8217;s Zune project at ComingZune.com, as well as for a promotional campaign for MtvU. &#8220;Somedays&#8221; was used in a 2005 episode of CSI: NY and &#8220;Samson&#8221; was used in a 2006 episode of the same series. &#8220;On the Radio&#8221; was used in an episode of ABC&#8217;s popular Grey&#8217;s Anatomy. &#8220;Field Below&#8221; was used in a 2006 episode titled &#8220;The Last Word&#8221; of CBS&#8217;s Criminal Minds. &#8220;Fidelity&#8221; was also used in a recent episode of &#8220;Grey&#8217;s Anatomy&#8221; titled &#8220;Sometimes a Fantasy&#8221;, in an episode of Veronica Mars titled &#8220;Friday Night Sleights&#8221;, and in an episode of &#8220;Brothers &#038; Sisters&#8221; titled &#8220;Sexual Politics&#8221;. &#8220;Better&#8221; is currently being used in a commercial for XM Satellite Radio. Spektor also sang the title song &#8220;Little Boxes&#8221; of Showtime&#8217;s television series Weeds in the 2006 episode &#8220;Mile Deep and a Foot Wide&#8221; and her &#8220;Ghost of Corporate Future&#8221; was used both at the beginning and end of the episode.</p><p>Regina Spektor gained much media attention in 2006 when her video for &#8220;Fidelity&#8221; was viewed over 200,000 times in two days on the YouTube website. On SIRIUS Radio&#8217;s Left of Center channel, her single &#8220;Fidelity&#8221; was voted by listeners as the #1 song of 2006.</p><p>In Australia particularly, Spektor&#8217;s music has rapidly gained popularity in mainstream culture primarily due to Begin To Hope being played on the nation-wide radio station Triple J, where it eventually became a feature album. Prior to Begin To Hope, Regina Spektor had only a small following in Australia in comparison to the US and Europe.</p><p><strong>Discography</strong><br
/> Most of Spektor&#8217;s early albums have been released exclusively in the United States. Her compilation, <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storieslocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMeets-Gravediggers-Other-Stories-Region%2Fdp%2FB000BRBGIW%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392305%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiestag=chrisabrahamMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20StorieslinkCode=ur2Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescamp=1789Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers and Other Short Stories</a><img
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/> 2001 &#8211; 11:11 (Regina Spektor)<br
/> 2002 &#8211; <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSongs-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000L6COZW%2Fsr%3D1-7%2Fqid%3D1169392444%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic&#038;tag=chrisabraham&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Songs</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabraham&#038;l=ur2&#038;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" /> (Regina Spektor)<br
/> 2004 &#8211; <a
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src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamSoviet%20Kitschamp;l=ur2Soviet%20Kitschamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" /> (Sire/London/Rhino)<br
/> 2005 &#8211; <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storieslocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMeets-Gravediggers-Other-Stories-Region%2Fdp%2FB000BRBGIW%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392305%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiestag=chrisabrahamMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20StorieslinkCode=ur2Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescamp=1789Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers and Other Short Stories</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiesamp;l=ur2Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiesamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" /> (Transgressive)<br
/> 2006 &#8211; <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Begin%20to%20Hopelocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBegin-Hope-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000FFJ80IBegin%20to%20Hopetag=chrisabrahamBegin%20to%20HopelinkCode=ur2Begin%20to%20Hopecamp=1789Begin%20to%20Hopecreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Begin to Hope</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamBegin%20to%20Hopeamp;l=ur2Begin%20to%20Hopeamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" /> (Sire) US sales 160,720</p><p><strong>Singles and EPs</strong><br
/> 2003 &#8211; Reptilia b/w Modern Girls &#038; Old Fashion Men by The Strokes (Rough Trade)<br
/> 2004 &#8211; Your Honor / The Flowers (Shoplifter)<br
/> 2005 &#8211; Live at Bull Moose EP (Sire)<br
/> 2005 &#8211; Carbon Monoxide (Transgressive)<br
/> 2006 &#8211; Us (Transgressive)<br
/> 2006 &#8211; On the Radio (Sire) UK #60<br
/> 2006 &#8211; Fidelity (Sire) US #84*</p><p><strong>Compilations</strong><br
/> 2006 &#8211; <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storieslocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMeets-Gravediggers-Other-Stories-Region%2Fdp%2FB000BRBGIW%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392305%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiestag=chrisabrahamMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20StorieslinkCode=ur2Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescamp=1789Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiescreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Mary Ann Meets the Gravediggers and Other Short Stories</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamMary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiesamp;l=ur2Mary%20Ann%20Meets%20the%20Gravediggers%20and%20Other%20Short%20Storiesamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" /> (Transgressive)</p><p><a
href="http://www.bighassle.com/publicity/a_regina_spektor.html#bio" rel="nofollow">REGINA SPEKTOR</a><br
/> Begin To Hope (SIRE)</p><p>A mere five years ago, Regina Spektor was hypnotizing small crowds at hole-in-the-wall venues on New York &#8216;s Lower East Side . After playing hundreds of shows in and around NYC, Spektor became the talk of the burgeoning music scene. Though she was selling many copies of CDs she had recorded and produced with friends ( 11:11 and <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSongs-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000L6COZW%2Fsr%3D1-7%2Fqid%3D1169392444%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic&#038;tag=chrisabraham&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Songs</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabraham&#038;l=ur2&#038;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />), it was her next album, “<a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Soviet%20Kitschlocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSoviet-Kitsch-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB0002XEDXU%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392386%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicSoviet%20Kitschtag=chrisabrahamSoviet%20KitschlinkCode=ur2Soviet%20Kitschcamp=1789Soviet%20Kitschcreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Soviet Kitsch</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamSoviet%20Kitschamp;l=ur2Soviet%20Kitschamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />,??? that would become her calling card. Originally released as a CDR and handed out at shows, Spektor signed with Sire Records who re-released “<a
href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Soviet%20Kitschlocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSoviet-Kitsch-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB0002XEDXU%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392386%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicSoviet%20Kitschtag=chrisabrahamSoviet%20KitschlinkCode=ur2Soviet%20Kitschcamp=1789Soviet%20Kitschcreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Soviet Kitsch</a><img
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href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8Soviet%20Kitschlocation=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSoviet-Kitsch-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB0002XEDXU%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1169392386%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3DmusicSoviet%20Kitschtag=chrisabrahamSoviet%20KitschlinkCode=ur2Soviet%20Kitschcamp=1789Soviet%20Kitschcreative=9325" rel="nofollow">Soviet Kitsch</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabrahamSoviet%20Kitschamp;l=ur2Soviet%20Kitschamp;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />,??? Spektor began as an opening act but by year&#8217;s end was the main attraction. Going from 200-capacity venues to selling out 1,300 capacity-venues like New York &#8216;s Irving Plaza and London &#8216;s Shephard Bush Empire, this Russian-born chanteuse&#8217;s songs have gone from being burned in her bedroom to receiving a worldwide fanfare. Though in love with playing shows to her rapidly growing audience, Spektor had written hundreds of songs since “<a
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href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#038;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSongs-Regina-Spektor%2Fdp%2FB000L6COZW%2Fsr%3D1-7%2Fqid%3D1169392444%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dmusic&#038;tag=chrisabraham&#038;linkCode=ur2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Songs</a><img
src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=chrisabraham&#038;l=ur2&#038;o=1" style="border: medium none  ! important; margin: 0px ! important" border="0" width="1" height="1" title="Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" alt=" Regina Spektor is Tori Plus Ani Plus Joni Plus Björk Plus Nora Plus Wow" />??? record in 1 day and “<a
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_McPhee" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>:</p><p><em>Katharine Hope McPhee (born March 25, 1984) is an American singer who is a finalist on the fifth season of American Idol.</em></p><p><em>Early career</em></p><p><em>Born in Sherman Oaks, California, McPhee has been singing since the age of two. Her mother, Peisha Burch McPhee, a vocal coach and accomplished cabaret singer, recognized a talent for music in her daughter and started training her. McPhee graduated in the class of 2002 from Notre Dame High School after which she attended The Boston Conservatory for three semesters with a concentration in musical theater. She left because she met a manager who wanted her to try out for parts during the television pilot season in Los Angeles. She did a pilot and an independent film.[1] At the Cabrillo Music Theater in Thousand Oaks, California, she performed the title role in a musical theatre production of Annie Get Your Gun. In June 2005 she played Anna Muir in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, a musical by Scott DeTurk and Bill Francoeur, based on the book by R.A. Dick, at NoHo Arts Center in California.</em></p><p><strong><em>Trivia</em></strong></p><p><em>* McPhee lists Whitney Houston and Brian McKnight as her favorite artists.<br
/> * McPhee has a sister named Adriana, who is one year older.<br
/> * McPhee is left handed.<br
/> * McPhee is 5&#8217;7&#8243; (170 cm).<br
/> * McPhee was rumored to be a Scientologist. In the past, McPhee had attended and completed two individual courses in Scientology.[2] However, according to an May 12, 2006 interview on Los Angeles radio station KROQ 106.7, McPhee stated she &#8220;dabbled in Scientology&#8221; because of a former love interest but is not a Scientologist; according to her, she was &#8220;quickly out the door.&#8221;[3]<br
/> * McPhee has a dog named Lily.<br
/> * McPhee has a goddaughter who was born during McPhee&#8217;s run in Hollywood.</em></p><p><em>During her initial audition for American Idol in San Francisco, she sang &#8220;God Bless the Child.&#8221; Judge Randy Jackson said she was the best voice he had heard so far that season, judge Paula Abdul praised her looks, and judge Simon Cowell said she was amazing and &#8220;current.&#8221; McPhee&#8217;s mother had gone with her to the audition, and Cowell made a comment about the possibility that the elder McPhee was a stage mother.</em></p><p><em>In the final cut-down show for the Top 24, McPhee was the first to be put through and, in excitement, kissed all three judges on the lips. She cried both when she passed her initial audition and when she made it into the Top 24.</em></p><p><em>In the first round of the semi-finals, she sang Barbra Streisand&#8217;s version of Buddy Johnson&#8217;s &#8220;Since I Fell for You,&#8221; again earning high praises as Cowell said that out of the four &#8220;very, very good vocalists&#8221; of the night, she was the best.</em></p><p><em>During the week leading to the third round of the semi-finals, where McPhee sang Aretha Franklin&#8217;s &#8220;Think,&#8221; she was rumored to be quitting due to pregnancy. However, during the performance show on March 7, 2006, she denied this accusation, later attributing it to a poor choice of clothing. Host Ryan Seacrest, with tongue-in-cheek, asked about her and fellow Idol contestant Kevin Covais.</em></p><p><em>During the week preceding the top 3 show, McPhee visited her former high school for her hometown celebration.[4]</em></p><p><center><em><br
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/> </em></center><em>McPhee&#8217;s run on American Idol led to the popular use of the term &#8220;McPheever,&#8221; coined by Ralph Garman of Los Angeles radio station KROQ&#8217;s morning show Kevin and Bean, and also &#8220;McPhan,&#8221; &#8220;McPhaith&#8221; and &#8220;Kat Pack.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>On the May 23, 2006, edition of NBC&#8217;s Today Show, Katie Couric mentioned news reports saying that Katharine&#8217;s greatest assets are her looks and strong fan base, while her greatest liability is the fact that her performances suffer when she is under pressure.</em></p><p><em>Performances</em></p><p><em>Semi-finals</em></p><p><em>* February 21, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Since I Fell for You,&#8221; Barbra Streisand version.<br
/> o Cowell said that she was the best singer of the night.<br
/> * February 28, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;All in Love Is Fair,&#8221; Stevie Wonder<br
/> o The judges stated that they thought this performance fell victim to poor song choice, but Abdul thought that she was &#8220;still a star.&#8221;<br
/> * March 7, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Think,&#8221; Aretha Franklin<br
/> o The judges stated that they loved this performance because she &#8220;had fun with it.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>Finals</em></p><p><em>* March 14, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Until You Come Back to Me,&#8221; Stevie Wonder<br
/> o The theme was Stevie Wonder, and the judges stated that they loved this performance. Jackson said that the McPhee he &#8220;met during the auditions&#8221; was back. Cowell compared her gaining of momentum to Kelly Clarkson in the show&#8217;s first season.<br
/> * March 21, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Come Rain or Come Shine,&#8221; Ella Fitzgerald<br
/> o The theme was 1950&#8242;s, and once again the judges were very impressed. Jackson noted that it wasn&#8217;t her best vocal performance, but it was still great. Abdul agreed wholeheartedly. Cowell noted that it was the performance that made her a star.<br
/> * March 28, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;The Voice Within,&#8221; Christina Aguilera &#8211; (Bottom 3)<br
/> o The theme was songs of the 21st century. Jackson thought she should have changed the performance up to make it her own. Abdul said she wouldn&#8217;t change a thing. Cowell said it was the best that night so far, and almost as good as Aguilera. During the results show, however, McPhee was placed in the bottom three, and Cowell stated that upon viewing the playback, she wasn&#8217;t nearly as good as he thought.<br
/> * April 4, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Bringing Out The Elvis,&#8221; Faith Hill<br
/> o The theme for the night was country. McPhee was the eighth of nine performers that night. Jackson said: &#8220;Kind of bluesy country, yeah? I like it. You sang it very nice, very nice. Good job, dawg, good job.&#8221; Abdul said: &#8220;That is your style; that&#8217;s your niche. You look sexy, hot. You&#8217;re cool.&#8221; Cowell, looking a bit bewildered, said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what to say anymore; I really don&#8217;t. That song was just so peculiar.&#8221; At this point McPhee spoke up and said: &#8220;Simon, you just don&#8217;t like country music. It&#8217;s okay. Just say it,&#8221; with which Cowell agreed, saying: &#8220;You&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t. I hate it.&#8221;<br
/> * April 11, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Who Wants to Live Forever,&#8221; Queen<br
/> o The theme was songs by Queen, and McPhee performed fifth out of eight contestants. The judges&#8217; reactions were as follows: Jackson said: &#8220;This is your element, I mean a little Broadway, big song, kind of big voice. It was a little pitchy in spots, and I thought at some points it was a little big for you, but you did a good job, I think, all in all.&#8221; Abdul said: &#8220;You made the right decision to just stand there and be glorious, with your glorious voice. I mean it&#8217;s a song that big singers like Celine Dion and Barbra Streisand take on; and you, Katharine McPhee, can handle it, and you did a great job.&#8221; Cowell said: &#8220;Katharine, I mean that was almost the moment. You know, I agree with Randy [Jackson], I think there were some tuning problems at parts. I think you owe a big kiss to the director and the lighting director there, because they made you look amazing — I mean really good. But overall I think it was probably one of the strongest tonight. Yeah. Very good.&#8221; McPhee then responded, “Thank you, I know, I do. Thank you, guys,??? in response to Cowell&#8217;s comment about owing the directors a kiss, as she turned and thanked them.<br
/> * April 18, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Someone to Watch Over Me,&#8221; George Gershwin<br
/> o The theme was &#8220;The Great American Songbook&#8221; by Rod Stewart. McPhee performed last that night. Jackson said that McPhee was in her &#8220;element.&#8221; Abdul believed that she picked the perfect song and told her that it was like watching her for the very first time, and that she had fallen in love with her all over again. Cowell said that she made the others look like &#8220;good amateurs.&#8221; He told her she was the best of the night, and that she was elegant and sang like a returning pro. Rod Stewart himself told her that he believed she was born to sing the Standards, and that he couldn&#8217;t think of anything else to say about her, other than the fact that she was brilliant.<br
/> * April 25, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;I Have Nothing,&#8221; Whitney Houston &#8211; (Top 2)<br
/> o The theme was &#8220;Greatest Love Songs.&#8221; Jackson said that it was a good song choice but it was too big for her. Abdul said she was stunning but believed it was too pitchy. Cowell said that by coming out and singing that song she was saying she is as good as Whitney Houston. Seacrest jokingly remarked that McPhee would get votes from anybody with the volume turned down. The following night, Cowell took back his statement, saying that when he watched it back, it was a good performance. Jackson also apologized by saying that he had been a little bit &#8220;too harsh.&#8221; McPhee was among the top two vote getters on elimination night along with fellow contestant Chris Daughtry.<br
/> * May 2, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)&#8221;, Phil Collins; &#8220;Black Horse and the Cherry Tree,&#8221; KT Tunstall<br
/> o The theme for the night was for them to pick a song from the same year they were born, and a song from this week&#8217;s Billboard charts. For &#8220;Against All Odds,&#8221; Jackson thought her performance may have been in the wrong key for Katharine&#8217;s voice, but it was OK. Abdul said it wasn&#8217;t her favorite song choice for her. Cowell said that in parts the song was a mess, and that it ran away from her. They all thought she looked stunning in her dress. For &#8220;Black Horse and the Cherry Tree,&#8221; Jackson liked seeing the old McPhee back. Abdul loved the intimacy and the choreography. Cowell said the song choice was great for her and it really showed her personality. He liked how her toes matched her top.<br
/> * May 9, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Hound Dog/All Shook Up&#8221; and &#8220;Can&#8217;t Help Falling in Love&#8221;, Elvis Presley &#8211; (Bottom 2)<br
/> o The theme was Elvis Presley. For &#8220;Hound Dog/All Shook Up&#8221;, Jackson asked if she forgot the lyrics but Abdul said she handled it well and that the performance was &#8220;really fun&#8221;. Cowell said it was a &#8220;desperate manic audition&#8221; and that the song was also &#8220;shrieky&#8221; and for him, he just thought that it &#8220;wasn&#8217;t a great performance&#8221;. For &#8220;Can&#8217;t Help Falling in Love,&#8221; she received mixed reviews, as well as Abdul commenting that she preferred &#8220;Katharine having fun&#8221; and Simon noting the song as being &#8220;pitchy.&#8221; On May 10, 2006, McPhee was in the bottom two with Chris Daughtry. Daughtry was eliminated from the competition.<br
/> * May 16, 2006<br
/> o Clive Davis chose R. Kelly&#8217;s &#8220;I Believe I Can Fly&#8221; for McPhee. Jackson thought she did well, but the song choice was bad and she wasn&#8217;t &#8220;that singer.&#8221; Abdul, after some pause and inspiration from an audience member, said that McPhee was incredible, and that she looked fabulous. Cowell enjoyed the performance.<br
/> o Cowell chose &#8220;Over the Rainbow&#8221; (originally made famous by Judy Garland) for McPhee. Jackson was blown away, calling her &#8220;a hot one,&#8221; and declaring that she had the best song of the season. Abdul was also impressed, saying that song was her &#8220;element.&#8221; Cowell said that he was very happy for Katharine and, putting the fact that he chose the song aside, he thought it was the best performance of the competition to date. He also added that it was brilliant.<br
/> o McPhee chose Ella Fitzgerald&#8217;s &#8220;I Ain&#8217;t Got Nothin&#8217; But the Blues&#8221; for her final song. Jackson said it was good, but not to the extent of her second song. Abdul agreed, once again saying that McPhee&#8217;s second song was her &#8220;element.&#8221; Cowell said it was okay, and he wished America had seen her second song last instead. McPhee made it to the final two, along with Taylor Hicks.<br
/> * May 23, 2006<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s first song was Black Horse and the Cherry Tree from the Final 5. Randy Jackson said it was better than the first time. Paula Abdul said that Katharine was brilliant. Simon Cowell said it was good, but not big enough for this event.<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s second song was Somewhere Over the Rainbow from the Final 3. Jackson said it was amazing and hot. Abdul said it was great. Cowell said it was her best performance of the season.<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s third song was an original single called My Destiny written by singer/songwriter Hanne Sorvaag. Jackson said McPhee looked and sounded amazing, but she was better than the song. Abdul agreed that Katharine sounded amazing. Cowell said that this song made her go from &#8220;brilliant&#8221; to only &#8220;quite good&#8221;, but her second song was where she truly shined.</em></p><p><center><br
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/></center><strong>Phenomenal Woman by Maya Angelou </strong></p><p><em>Pretty women wonder where my secret lies.<br
/> I&#8217;m not cute or built to suit a fashion model&#8217;s size<br
/> But when I start to tell them,<br
/> They think I&#8217;m telling lies.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the reach of my arms<br
/> The span of my hips,<br
/> The stride of my step,<br
/> The curl of my lips.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>I walk into a room<br
/> Just as cool as you please,<br
/> And to a man,<br
/> The fellows stand or<br
/> Fall down on their knees.<br
/> Then they swarm around me,<br
/> A hive of honey bees.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s the fire in my eyes,<br
/> And the flash of my teeth,<br
/> The swing in my waist,<br
/> And the joy in my feet.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>Men themselves have wondered<br
/> What they see in me.<br
/> They try so much<br
/> But they can&#8217;t touch<br
/> My inner mystery.<br
/> When I try to show them<br
/> They say they still can&#8217;t see.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the arch of my back,<br
/> The sun of my smile,<br
/> The ride of my breasts,<br
/> The grace of my style.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman</em></p><p><em>Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>Now you understand<br
/> Just why my head&#8217;s not bowed.<br
/> I don&#8217;t shout or jump about<br
/> Or have to talk real loud.<br
/> When you see me passing<br
/> It ought to make you proud.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the click of my heels,<br
/> The bend of my hair,<br
/> the palm of my hand,<br
/> The need of my care,<br
/> &#8216;Cause I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me. </em></p><div
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rel="nofollow" href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/11/dont-save-the-whales">Don&#8217;t Save the Whales</a> absolutely doesn&#8217;t say or even imply, for those of you <em>dull knives</em>, is <em>Kill the Manatees</em>, <em>Kill the Children</em>, <em>Kill the Tigers</em>, <em>Kill the Dolphins</em>, <em>Kill the Bay</em>, <em>Kill the World</em>, <em>Kill the Koala</em>, <em>Kill the Pandas</em>, <em>Kill the Rhinos</em>, <em>Kill the Elephant</em> or <em>Kill the Whales</em>.</p><p>Okay, <em>got it</em>?</p><p><strong><a
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src="http://chrisabraham.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dontSaveTheWhales-thumb1.jpg" border="0" alt="dontSaveTheWhales thumb1 Dont Save the Whales and Dont Save the Rainforest Either" hspace="5" width="50" height="50" align="left" title="Dont Save the Whales and Dont Save the Rainforest Either" /></a>There is no cause so noble that you should sacrifice your children to its altar.  Shame on you.</p><p>After 15-years in DC, I have noticed that those noble activists who are saving the world have yet to save themselves, their marriages, their families, and their children.</p><p>The children of many of the founders of these organizations are a mess, with boys and girls as scared and abandoned as the children of their more celebrated Hollywood celebrities and New York robber barons.  They are cared for by nannies and oftentimes never see their parents for weeks at a time.</p><p>All because one or more of their parents are making sacrifices for a higher, nobler cause: saving the whales.  Or some similar <em><a
class="zem_slink" title="Cause célèbre" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_c%C3%A9l%C3%A8bre">cause celebre</a></em>.</p><p><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/11/dont-save-the-whales"><img
src="http://chrisabraham.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dontSaveTheWhales-thumb1.jpg" border="0" alt="dontSaveTheWhales thumb1 Dont Save the Whales and Dont Save the Rainforest Either" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="300" height="300" align="right" title="Dont Save the Whales and Dont Save the Rainforest Either" /></a>The illusion of nobility associated with saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.</p><p>If you have <em>all</em> of your ducks in a row, if your children are happy and well-adjusted, if your health is good and you get enough sleep and exercise, if you still chase your spouse around the bed pretty regularly, and you call your mother, with energy to spare for yourself, then you have the right to <a
class="zem_slink" title="Anti-whaling" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-whaling">save the whales</a>.</p><p>Otherwise, you are chasing phantoms, you are wasting your time, and you had better still yourself enough to remember why you got married, why you had children, and whether the whales really matter to you any more or if you&#8217;re just used to saving the whales.</p><p>Otherwise, let the whales fend for themselves for a little while while you get yourself together.</p><p>If you disrespect your own family enough to abandon them for your noble cause then the whales are better off without you. Resign from your save the whales campaign immediately, move to New York, and settle in to a life on Wall Street.</p><p>If you&#8217;re going to be ignoble, you might as well do it for money.  The entire order <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Cetacea.html">cetacea</a> recognize hypocrisy when they see it and they don&#8217;t want any of your filthy lucre anyway.</p><p><em>(Special Thanks to Paul Roberts of <a
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href="http://www.abcstores.com/browse.cfm/2,29.html" rel="nofollow">Waikiki ABC Store</a>, ground zero for <em>aloha oi</em>.</p><p>The humble <em>kukui</em> nut, also known as the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kukui" rel="nofollow">candlenut</a>, was originally used for its oil, which one can burn for light.  The anclient Hawaiians used kukui nut oil as lamp fuel.</p><p>A <a
href="http://www.abcstores.com/browse.cfm/4,3.htm" rel="nofollow">simple kukui lei</a> is traditionally given as a gift to visitors.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;The kukui nut tree has spiritual significance of hope and renewal, and was involved in many legends. One such was about a woman who, despite her best efforts to please her husband, was routinely beaten. Finally, the husband beat her to death and buried her under a kuku&#8217;i tree. Being a kind and just woman, she was given new life, and the husband was eventually killed.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Via <a
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href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451524934/chrisabraham" rel="nofollow">George Orwell&#8217;s book 1984</a>, <a
href="http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/19/" rel="nofollow">Part Three, Chapter Two</a>. It is a passive-aggressive, too-subtle, protest against <em>American Imperialism</em>.</p><p>Of course, this is the kind of reference that paints the left into a corner, because as long as they are viewed as passive-aggressive, snobby, elitist, exclusionary and intellectual &#8212; like they&#8217;re looking down their collective nose at &#8220;normal folk&#8221; &#8212; they will never make it back into the White House.</p><p>Nobody like an insufferable know-it-all, especially one who can&#8217;t say what he means.  Ask Al Gore.</p><p>Sadly, all of the 2+2=5 references are not making the rounds.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t make the connection to <a
href="http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/19/" rel="nofollow">Orwell&#8217;s 1984</a> until I saw the <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KQA3/chrisabraham" rel="nofollow">1984 1984</a> with <a
href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000457/" rel="nofollow">John Hurt</a> and the beautiful <a
href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0358180/" rel="nofollow">Suzanna Hamilton</a>.</p><p>The scene is masterful &#8212; the <a
href="http://encyclopedia.lockergnome.com/s/b/Two_plus_two_make_five" rel="nofollow">2+2=5</a> scene, and in fact all of them&#8230; <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007KQA3/chrisabraham" rel="nofollow">The movie</a> is bloody brilliant at capturing it.  A real and true distopia.</p><p>Here is most of the scene, from <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451524934/chrisabraham" rel="nofollow">George Orwell&#8217;s book 1984</a>, <a
href="http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/19/" rel="nofollow">Part Three, Chapter Two</a></p><blockquote><p>&#8216;Do you remember,&#8217; he went on, &#8216;writing in your diary, &#8220;Freedom is the freedom to say that <strong>two plus two make four</strong>&#8220;?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Yes,&#8217; said Winston.</p><p>O&#8217;Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four.&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;And if the party says that it is not four but five &#8212; then how many?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four.&#8217;</p><p>The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston&#8217;s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O&#8217;Brien watched him, the four fingers still extended. He drew back the lever. This time the pain was only slightly eased.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four.&#8217;</p><p>The needle went up to sixty.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four! Four! What else can I say? Four!&#8217;</p><p>The needle must have risen again, but he did not look at it. The heavy, stern face and the four fingers filled his vision. The fingers stood up before his eyes like pillars, enormous, blurry, and seeming to vibrate, but unmistakably four.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four! Stop it, stop it! How can you go on? Four! Four!&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Five! Five! Five!&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are four. How many fingers, please?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four! five! Four! Anything you like. Only stop it, stop the pain!&#8217;</p><p>Abruptly he was sitting up with O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s arm round his shoulders. He had perhaps lost consciousness for a few seconds. The bonds that had held his body down were loosened. He felt very cold, he was shaking uncontrollably, his teeth were chattering, the tears were rolling down his cheeks. For a moment he clung to O&#8217;Brien like a baby, curiously comforted by the heavy arm round his shoulders. He had the feeling that O&#8217;Brien was his protector, that the pain was something that came from outside, from some other source, and that it was O&#8217;Brien who would save him from it.</p><p>&#8216;You are a slow learner, Winston,&#8217; said O&#8217;Brien gently.</p><p>&#8216;How can I help it?&#8217; he blubbered. &#8216;How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.&#8217;</p><p><strong>&#8216;Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.&#8217;</strong></p><p>He laid Winston down on the bed. The grip of his limbs tightened again, but the pain had ebbed away and the trembling had stopped, leaving him merely weak and cold. O&#8217;Brien motioned with his head to the man in the white coat, who had stood immobile throughout the proceedings. The man in the white coat bent down and looked closely into Winston&#8217;s eyes, felt his pulse, laid an ear against his chest, tapped here and there, then he nodded to O&#8217;Brien.</p><p>&#8216;Again,&#8217; said O&#8217;Brien.</p><p>The pain flowed into Winston&#8217;s body. The needle must be at seventy, seventy-five. He had shut his eyes this time. He knew that the fingers were still there, and still four. All that mattered was somehow to stay alive until the spasm was over. He had ceased to notice whether he was crying out or not. The pain lessened again. He opened his eyes. O&#8217;Brien had drawn back the lever.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers, Winston?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Four. I suppose there are four. I would see five if I could. I am trying to see five.&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Which do you wish: to persuade me that you see five, or really to see them?&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Really to see them.&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;Again,&#8217; said O&#8217;Brien.</p><p>Perhaps the needle was eighty &#8212; ninety. Winston could not intermittently remember why the pain was happening. Behind his screwed-up eyelids a forest of fingers seemed to be moving in a sort of dance, weaving in and out, disappearing behind one another and reappearing again. He was trying to count them, he could not remember why. He knew only that it was impossible to count them, and that this was somehow due to the mysterious identity between five and four. The pain died down again. When he opened his eyes it was to find that he was still seeing the same thing. Innumerable fingers, like moving trees, were still streaming past in either direction, crossing and recrossing. He shut his eyes again.</p><p>&#8216;How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?&#8217;</p><p><strong>&#8216;I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know. You will kill me if you do that again. Four, five, six &#8212; in all honesty I don&#8217;t know.&#8217; </strong></p><p>&#8216;Better,&#8217; said O&#8217;Brien.<em> </em></p></blockquote><p>But as a marketing anti-president, anti-white house campaign it suffers from too much subtlety, too much ivory tower, and too much snobbery.  It is passive-aggressive and frustrating &#8212; way too much nudge nudge, wink wink.  Want to know why the left is considered exclusive, elitist, and snobby?  Because they bloody well are!</p><p>Sometimes you just have to say what you mean.</p><div
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