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><channel><title>Chris Abraham &#187; Economy</title> <atom:link href="http://chrisabraham.com/tag/economy/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chrisabraham.com</link> <description>Because the Medium is the Message</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:29:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>Stevie Wilson and I Talk About the Economy</title><link>http://chrisabraham.com/2009/04/15/stevie-wilson-and-i-talk-about-the-economy/</link> <comments>http://chrisabraham.com/2009/04/15/stevie-wilson-and-i-talk-about-the-economy/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:46:27 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[global economic collapse]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Global Financial Collapse]]></category> <category><![CDATA[LA-Story]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Podcasting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Podcasts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Stevie Wilson]]></category> <category><![CDATA[World Recession]]></category> <category><![CDATA[barack obama]]></category> <category><![CDATA[DC Comics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[economic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Economics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Economy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Instant Messaging]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Los Angeles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[podcast]]></category> <category><![CDATA[recession]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Woodrow Wilson]]></category><guid
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href="http://www.la-story.com/podcast/why_do_you_need_to_spend_money_recession-buster_ch/">Why  Do You Need to Spend Money? Recession-Buster Chris Abraham Chats Up LA-Story.com </a></p><blockquote><p>Talking to <strong><a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/">Chris Abraham</a></strong> is always an interesting conversation. It’s part serious, part giggles and part free-falling imagination.</p><p>This is <strong><a
href="http://www.la-story.com/podcast/why_do_you_need_to_spend_money_recession-buster_ch/">part one</a> of a series of podcasts </strong>that started out as a series of <a
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href="http://www.la-story.com/podcast/why_do_you_need_to_spend_money_recession-buster_ch/">find this dreadfully boring</a> — and it’s not— wait for podcast # 2. It’s much better and by # 3 — wow.. It’s popping!</p><p>See ya!</p><p>Stevie <a
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id="more-5482"></span></p><blockquote><p>This weekend in Richmond, I&#8217;ll join Democrats from across Virginia at our annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner.  From the decade-plus I&#8217;ve been working in the trenches of Democratic politics around the Commonwealth, I know the JJ is one of Virginia Democrats&#8217; favorite events.  But this year in particular &#8211; on the heels of the victories of President Obama, Senator Warner and Representatives Perriello, Nye and Connolly &#8211; the JJ will be a particularly exciting opportunity to share my vision for the future of the Commonwealth with activists from across Virginia.</p><p>As you may know, I recently decided to run for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia.  <strong>I&#8217;m running because I strongly believe that our problems today are so urgent they demand something more from the office of Lieutenant Governor</strong>.  If we turn this office into a public advocate for all Virginians rather than just a placeholder it&#8217;s been under the Republican incumbent, Bill Bolling, we can take on great challenges together, including:</p><ul><li>Strengthening our economy while cracking down on predatory practices,</li><li>Getting our priorities on energy and the environment right and creating thousands of new green jobs,</li><li>Meeting the sacred contract we have with veterans and their families and</li><li>Strengthening our democracy here in Virginia.</li></ul><p>Although the Lieutenant Governor candidates will not be speaking, I wanted to make sure you know about the event and &#8211; most importantly &#8211; <strong>that you&#8217;re invited to our reception afterward</strong>.  Immediately following the dinner, we&#8217;ll be hosting a hospitality suite with a great band and refreshments in the Greater Richmond Convention Center, room E22-A.</p><p>If you&#8217;re attending the dinner, I hope you&#8217;ll join us &#8211; and encourage others you meet at the dinner to do the same &#8211; to stop by, meet me, and make the acquaintance of other Virginia Democrats who will be joining our fresh, exciting new campaign.</p><p
align="center"><strong>After JJ Reception with Mike Signer</strong><br
/> Greater Richmond Convention Center &#8211; Room E22-A<br
/> February 7, 2009 &#8211; Immediately following the conclusion of the dinner<br
/> <a
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href="http://twitter.com/aisle7">@Aisle7</a></p><blockquote><p><strong>Full text of President Obama&#8217;s Inauguration Speech 2009</strong></p><p>My fellow citizens:</p><p>I stand here today humbled by the task before us, grateful for the trust you have bestowed, mindful of the sacrifices borne by our ancestors. I thank President Bush for his service to our nation, as well as the generosity and cooperation he has shown throughout this transition.</p><p>Forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath. The words have been spoken during rising tides of prosperity and the still waters of peace. Yet, every so often the oath is taken amidst gathering clouds and raging storms. At these moments, America has carried on not simply because of the skill or vision of those in high office, but because We the People have remained faithful to the ideals of our forbearers, and true to our founding documents.</p><p>So it has been. So it must be with this generation of Americans.</p><p>That we are in the midst of crisis is now well understood. Our nation is at war, against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred. Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age. Homes have been lost; jobs shed; businesses shuttered. Our health care is too costly; our schools fail too many; and each day brings further evidence that the ways we use energy strengthen our adversaries and threaten our planet.</p><p>These are the indicators of crisis, subject to data and statistics. Less measurable but no less profound is a sapping of confidence across our land &#8211; a nagging fear that America&#8217;s decline is inevitable, and that the next generation must lower its sights.</p><p>Today I say to you that the challenges we face are real. They are serious and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time. But know this, America &#8211; they will be met.</p><p>On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord.</p><p>On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.</p><p>We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things.</p><p>The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness.</p><p>In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned. Our journey has never been one of short-cuts or settling for less. It has not been the path for the faint-hearted &#8211; for those who prefer leisure over work, or seek only the pleasures of riches and fame. Rather, it has been the risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things &#8211; some celebrated but more often men and women obscure in their labor, who have carried us up the long, rugged path towards prosperity and freedom.</p><p>For us, they packed up their few worldly possessions and traveled across oceans in search of a new life. For us, they toiled in sweatshops and settled the West; endured the lash of the whip and plowed the hard earth.</p><p>For us, they fought and died, in places like Concord and Gettysburg; Normandy and Khe Sahn. Time and again these men and women struggled and sacrificed and worked till their hands were raw so that we might live a better life. They saw America as bigger than the sum of our individual ambitions; greater than all the differences of birth or wealth or faction.</p><p>This is the journey we continue today. We remain the most prosperous, powerful nation on Earth. Our workers are no less productive than when this crisis began. Our minds are no less inventive, our goods and services no less needed than they were last week or last month or last year. Our capacity remains undiminished. But our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions &#8211; that time has surely passed. Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America.</p><p>For everywhere we look, there is work to be done. The state of the economy calls for action, bold and swift, and we will act &#8211; not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth. We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together. We will restore science to its rightful place, and wield technology&#8217;s wonders to raise health care&#8217;s quality and lower its cost. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age. All this we can do. And all this we will do.</p><p>Now, there are some who question the scale of our ambitions &#8211; who suggest that our system cannot tolerate too many big plans. Their memories are short. For they have forgotten what this country has already done; what free men and women can achieve when imagination is joined to common purpose, and necessity to courage.</p><p>What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them &#8211; that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply. The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works &#8211; whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end. And those of us who manage the public&#8217;s dollars will be held to account &#8211; to spend wisely, reform bad habits, and do our business in the light of day &#8211; because only then can we restore the vital trust between a people and their government.</p><p>Nor is the question before us whether the market is a force for good or ill. Its power to generate wealth and expand freedom is unmatched, but this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control &#8211; and that a nation cannot prosper long when it favors only the prosperous.</p><p>The success of our economy has always depended not just on the size of our Gross Domestic Product, but on the reach of our prosperity; on our ability to extend opportunity to every willing heart &#8211; not out of charity, but because it is the surest route to our common good.</p><p>As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience&#8217;s sake.</p><p>And so to all other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born: know that America is a friend of each nation and every man, woman, and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity, and that we are ready to lead once more. Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.</p><p>We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort &#8211; even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.</p><p>For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus &#8211; and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth; and because we have tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation, and emerged from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass; that the lines of tribe shall soon dissolve; that as the world grows smaller, our common humanity shall reveal itself; and that America must play its role in ushering in a new era of peace.</p><p>To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect. To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society&#8217;s ills on the West &#8211; know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy. To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history; but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.</p><p>To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you to make your farms flourish and let clean waters flow; to nourish starved bodies and feed hungry minds. And to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to suffering outside our borders; nor can we consume the world&#8217;s resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it.</p><p>As we consider the road that unfolds before us, we remember with humble gratitude those brave Americans who, at this very hour, patrol far-off deserts and distant mountains. They have something to tell us today, just as the fallen heroes who lie in Arlington whisper through the ages. We honor them not only because they are guardians of our liberty, but because they embody the spirit of service; a willingness to find meaning in something greater than themselves. And yet, at this moment &#8211; a moment that will define a generation &#8211; it is precisely this spirit that must inhabit us all.</p><p>For as much as government can do and must do, it is ultimately the faith and determination of the American people upon which this nation relies. It is the kindness to take in a stranger when the levees break, the selflessness of workers who would rather cut their hours than see a friend lose their job which sees us through our darkest hours. It is the firefighter&#8217;s courage to storm a stairway filled with smoke, but also a parent&#8217;s willingness to nurture a child, that finally decides our fate.</p><p>Our challenges may be new. The instruments with which we meet them may be new. But those values upon which our success depends &#8211; hard work and honesty, courage and fair play, tolerance and curiosity, loyalty and patriotism &#8211; these things are old. These things are true. They have been the quiet force of progress throughout our history. What is demanded then is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility &#8211; a recognition, on the part of every American, that we have duties to ourselves, our nation, and the world, duties that we do not grudgingly accept but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.</p><p>This is the price and the promise of citizenship.</p><p>This is the source of our confidence &#8211; the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny.</p><p>This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed &#8211; why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall, and why a man whose father less than sixty years ago might not have been served at a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath.</p><p>So let us mark this day with remembrance, of who we are and how far we have traveled. In the year of America&#8217;s birth, in the coldest of months, a small band of patriots huddled by dying campfires on the shores of an icy river. The capital was abandoned. The enemy was advancing. The snow was stained with blood. At a moment when the outcome of our revolution was most in doubt, the father of our nation ordered these words be read to the people:</p><p>&#8220;Let it be told to the future world&#8230;that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive&#8230;that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet [it].&#8221;</p><p>America. In the face of our common dangers, in this winter of our hardship, let us remember these timeless words. With hope and virtue, let us brave once more the icy currents, and endure what storms may come. Let it be said by our children&#8217;s children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God&#8217;s grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-all-who-supported-international-medical-corps">International Medical Corps (IMC) 2008</a>, <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-again-survivor-corps-bloggers">Survivor Corps Operation Survivor 2008</a>, and <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-fresh-air-fund-bloggers">Fresh Air Fund Summer 2008</a>, <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/book-promotion-blogger-pr">Jerry White’s I Will Not Be Broken book promotion</a>.  In many cases, these campaigns are close to a year old, yet they still  still live in hundreds and hundreds of blogs and feed Google’s index  until all of these blogs are taken down. It is really amazing how  effective this sort of “advertising” promotion works. What’s better,  when the campaign is over and the client “turns off” our tap, the  content continues living and isn’t just shut off like it is with  banners, buttons, and contextual advertising. Very interesting, very  cool, and powerfully effective.</p><p>Remember how much fun Communication Arts is to page through? — CA is  intoxicating! Well, every ad you make can be as interesting, as long as  you’re willing to come out of your art department and share your  process, share your experience, share your steps. Keeping those  ephemera alive through narrative, sharing, conversation, and story, is  what social media is, it is what customer service is, it is surely what  branding should be.</p><p>Anyway, There is a lot of opportunity in this time of chaos, of this  time of transition. The same sort of transition (and opportunity)  happened when PCs came online, replacing the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter">IBM Selectric II</a>;  when the Internet changed E-Commerce, threatening to eviscerate bricks  and mortar stores, and it is happening now, more than ever, with  advertising, marketing, and PR.</p><p>I call it white knuckle syndrome: holding on to the handholds you  have, frozen on the face of the cliff, because you don’t know where the  handholds of the future are. This chaos is pretty amazing to watch as  the economy pitches and GM bails on Super Bowl.</p><p>Advertising knows it needs to jump off the locomotive before it  pitches into the gorge (the bridge is out!) but reaching out to the  proffered hand of the guy in the helicopter seems pretty risky too.  But, as the current handholds become chalky and you start to feel them  crumble under your weight, you’ll need to find somewhere else to go,  and quick!</p><p>To me, <a
href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/">Chris Brogan</a> said it best the other day on Twitter, “customer service is the new PR.*” Looking at what <a
href="http://twitter.com/comcastcares">@comcastcares</a> has been able to do, customer service is the new PR, the new marketing, and the new advertising.</p><p>So, as those handholds start to get chalk and begin to crumble, it  is important to at least set your eyes on a new handhold — or maybe a <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com">helping hand</a> — before your original handhold turns to powder.</p><p>And for you who have yet to do the reading, please check out <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0738204315/chrisabraham">Cluetrain Manifesto</a> and <a
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href="http://digitalstreetjournal.com">Jonathan Trenn</a>, over at <a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/11/30/bob-garfields-chaos-scenario-may-start-locally/">Marketing Conversation</a> &#8212; <a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/11/30/bob-garfields-chaos-scenario-may-start-locally/">Bob Garfield&#8217;s &#8220;Chaos Scenario&#8221; may start locally</a> &#8212; the world of advertising is in a place of chaos &#8212; spanning the dead zone between traditional advertising methods and new media advertising.</p><blockquote><p><b><a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/11/30/bob-garfields-chaos-scenario-may-start-locally/">Bob Garfield&#8217;s &#8220;Chaos Scenario&#8221; may start locally</a></b></p><p>If you haven&#8217;t read Bob Garfield&#8217;s presentations of how advertising will evolve over the next few years (<a
href="http://adage.com/article?article_id=45561">Part 1</a> and<a
href="http://technology360.typepad.com/technology360/2007/03/bob_garfields_c.html"> Part 2</a>), then you should. He calls this the &#8220;Chaos Scenario&#8221;&#8230;a perfect metaphor for what he describes. In it, he argues that traditional advertising is dying out as media usage and consumer behavior are changing. Much of the change has its roots in the rise of the internet as a marketing vehicle. But, Garfield points out, new methods and practices have yet to fully pan out. And many companies haven;t come to grips with this new and show no signs of doing it any time soon. This is going to cause (my interpretation) chaos as traditional media outlets struggle to get advertisers while these advertisers struggle to figure out how to advertise effectively with their limited knowledge.</p><p>For the most part, I agree with his thesis. Most major traditional marketing-oriented mediums are becoming less effective as promotional vehicles. Media usage is more dispersed, more personal, and thus, more controlled by the end user. And many times those end users today are choosing to ignore or avoid the advertising messages that are send their way. Whether it ends up being as dire as Garfield suggests, I have no idea, but changes are coming and neither the advertising mediums nor the advertisers themselves are ready for it.</p><p>And I think <a
href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.san&#038;s=95389&#038;Nid=49746&#038;p=359531">local is where we&#8217;ll see it first</a>. I see this happening one the local level over the next three years. Goldman Sachs is predicting that traditional local advertising vehicles &#8211; local TV, newspapers and radio stations &#8211; are going to get hit particularly hard during this recession. I&#8217;m going to agree, and the key world there is &#8220;particularly&#8221;. That&#8217;s because local advertising is hurting anyway as advertisers have already been pulling back because it doesn&#8217;t work like it used to. Add to that further cuts in ad spend and you could get a serious amount of casualties on the local media market.</p><p><a
href="http://img.mediapost.com/publications/10/chart1125c.jpg"><img
src="http://img.mediapost.com/publications/10/chart1125c.jpg" class="alignnone" height="225" width="400" title="On the Bob Garfield Chaos Scenario for Advertising" alt="chart1125c On the Bob Garfield Chaos Scenario for Advertising" /></a></p><p>In the above graphs, we can see that newspaper get hit the hardest. Readership is down in the first place. That&#8217;s permanent. People have stopped buying newspapers for whatever reason &#8211; a lack of interest in news, having news available online, and getting quick news capsules in other mediums. A poor economy has little or no effect on newspaper buying. We won&#8217;t be seeing a rebound once the economy bounce back.</p><p>The collapse of players in the local ad market will reduce the options for advertisers. Yet the demand will probably still meet the supply. So we&#8217;ll see further erosion. Craigslist, satellite radio, and cable TV will make this so.</p><p>One of the alternatives will be local online advertising. But I don&#8217;t see many local advertisers ready for this. I still see most local companies that are likely to advertise having little more than brochureware websites. I see very little use of local Google Adsense coming from traditional businesses. And, again, the websites are neither optimized for online search nor are they set up with the correct landing pages for potential ads. Local businesses SHOULD be developing internet strategies, but the decision makers in them don&#8217;t go to our conferences, they don&#8217;t read our blogs, they&#8217;re not on Twitter. Nor are they probably on Facebook or MySpace. They&#8217;re far from it.</p><p>So while they&#8217;ll be temporarily holding back ad dollars during tough economic times, they&#8217;ll be likely losing some of their traditional advertising choices. And they won&#8217;t be ready or equipped to start marketing on new media &#8211; because they&#8217;ve chosen to not take the time to learn it. The end result? Chaos.</p></blockquote><p>I call it white knuckle syndrome: holding on to the handholds you have, frozen on the face of the cliff, because you don&#8217;t know where the handholds of the future are. This chaos is pretty amazing to watch as the economy pitches and GM bails on Super Bowl.</p><p>Advertising knows it needs to jump off the locomotive before it pitches into the gorge (the bridge is out!) but reaching out to the proffered hand of the guy in the helicopter seems pretty risky too. But, as the current handholds become chalky and you start to feel them crumble under your weight, you&#8217;ll need to find somewhere else to go, and quick!</p><p>I tell anyone who will listen to me that the current crop of advertisement methods is too ephemeral.  The moment you spend the money and your ad runs is the moment it is either gone to the grave &#8212; unless you&#8217;re smart and willing to keep it alive, in conversation, online on YouTube for the spots or on a blog somewhere for the print work &#8212; or you will feel compelled to keep on throwing money at it ad infinitum, because contextual ads, banner ads, etc, only last as long as you write checks.</p><p>What my specialty is is online conversation marketing, online public relations, and online earned media.  When you earn peoples&#8217; attention and when they choose to speak about you, your clients, and your services, then you have a gift that keeps on giving &#8212; this is content that lasts well past the campaign and into the future.  This is both the sort of thing that Google loves &#8212; it is SEO catnip &#8212; and it is just the sort of content that flows, both upstream to A-list bloggers and to mainstream media and down to your readers, aggregators, and to other bloggers and other blogs.  If you want to see some examples of powerfully successful blogger outreaches, check out <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-all-who-supported-international-medical-corps">International Medical Corps (IMC) 2008</a>, <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-again-survivor-corps-bloggers">Survivor Corps Operation Survivor 2008</a>, and <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/thank-you-fresh-air-fund-bloggers">Fresh Air Fund Summer 2008</a>, <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/book-promotion-blogger-pr">Jerry White&#8217;s I Will Not Be Broken book promotion</a>. In many cases, these campaigns are close to a year old, yet they still still live in hundreds and hundreds of blogs and feed Google&#8217;s index until all of these blogs are taken down.  It is really amazing how effective this sort of &#8220;advertising&#8221; promotion works.  What&#8217;s better, when the campaign is over and the client &#8220;turns off&#8221; our tap, the content continues living and isn&#8217;t just shut off like it is with banners, buttons, and contextual advertising.  Very interesting, very cool, and powerfully effective.</p><p>Remember how much fun Communication Arts is to page through? &#8212; CA is intoxicating!  Well, every ad you make can be as interesting, as long as you&#8217;re willing to come out of your art department and share your process, share your experience, share your steps.  Keeping those ephemera alive through narrative, sharing, conversation, and story, is what social media is, it is what customer service is, it is surely what branding should be.</p><p>Anyway, There is a lot of opportunity in this time of chaos, of this time of transition. The same sort of transition (and opportunity) happened when PCs came online, replacing the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter">IBM Selectric II</a>; when the Internet changed E-Commerce, threatening to eviscerate bricks and mortar stores, and it is happening now, more than ever, with advertising, marketing, and PR.</p><p>To me, <a
href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/">Chris Brogan</a> said it best the other day on Twitter, &#8220;customer service is the new PR.*&#8221; Looking at what <a
href="http://twitter.com/comcastcares">@comcastcares</a> has been able to do, customer service is the new PR, the new marketing, and the new advertising.</p><p>So, as those handholds start to get chalk and begin to crumble, it is important to at least set your eyes on a new handhold &#8212; or maybe a <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com">helping hand</a> &#8212; before your original handhold turns to powder.</p><p>I know there is so much money &#8212; huge buckets of hot cash &#8212; in TV commercials (and you&#8217;re still all stoked from your experience &#8212; and profit &#8212; from the presidential campaign) but you need to diversify! You need to start spreading your weight over a number of holds: left and right foot, left and right hand &#8212; and hopefully a <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com">belay man</a> and some crampons and a few anchors and camming devices&#8230; as much as you can do.</p><p>This is a time of chaos, and your mistakes will all be gentle and you will be admired for doing cool stuff, so it is a perfect time to make the leap.  Right now, SEO, SEM, affiliate and marketing firms, PR firms, and <a
href="http://cabraham.com">social media consultants</a> are doing ad buys, are learning advertising, are becoming severely profitable.</p><p>They drink your milkshake.</p><p>But it is not too late.  It is a time of chaos, it is a time to take risks.  Learn from what has happened to your cousins, PR and main stream media. Evolve or perish.  Yes, these will be interesting times for Madison Avenue and around the world.</p><p>And for you who have yet to do the reading, please check out <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0738204315/chrisabraham">Cluetrain Manifesto</a> and <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/047174719X/chrisabraham">Naked Conversation</a>.</p><p>Oh, and no, I have not read Bob Garfield&#8217;s original presentations of how advertising will evolve over the next few years (<a
href="http://adage.com/article?article_id=45561">Part 1</a> and<a
href="http://technology360.typepad.com/technology360/2007/03/bob_garfields_c.html"> Part 2</a>); however, I plan to &#8212; and I plan to say more after I do.  I merely intended to cross-post Trenn&#8217;s article from Marketing Conversation &#8212; I just didn&#8217;t realize I had such a strong opinion on the issue until I started writing my standard introduction and analysis paragraph.</p><p>* I can&#8217;t find the quote that Chris Brogan made, however, I can find <a
href="http://twitter.com/chrisabraham/statuses/1030976684">my quoting of him on Twitter</a> &#8212; maybe someone can help me find his original Tweet.</p><div
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-147">Palin = MORON</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://sogetthis.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 12:58.</div><div><p>Only  a complete moron would vote for a Republican after the past 8 years of  idiocy. McCain is a Bush croney and Palin is just an idiot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/147">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-146"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-146">reply to KB in IA</a></div><div> Submitted by ab (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 08:52.</div><div><p>KB,<br
/> Sorry, I don&#8217;t usually reply to these remarks, but I couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;&#8230;..<br
/> What message of &#8220;hate&#8221; are you talking about?<br
/> If someone doesn&#8217;t agree with your worldview, that doesn&#8217;t<br
/> mean they hate. Where is your tolerance?<br
/> AB</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-145"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-145">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Walter Arndt (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 22:23.</div><div><p>Only a person with his head in the sand would vote for a democrat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-144"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-144">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by KB in IA (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 21:54.</div><div><p>Things  might get interesting soon, since the Alaska Supreme Court said today  that the investigation known as Troopergate could proceed, dashing the  hopes of the McCain/Palin campaign to stonewall it until after the  election (article at <a
href="http://www.adn.com" title="www.adn.com">www.adn.com</a>).  Amazing that someone CURRENTLY under investigation for misuse of public  office, could be stirring up crowds with a message of hate.  Mind-boggling that someone who had to attend 5 or 6 different colleges  before getting a degree in journalism, can try to make a bogeyman out  of someone who graduated with honors from Harvard Law. I hope Alaska  gets their Governor back soon&#8230;if they even want her back.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-143">Re: Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 18:06.</div><div><p>Are  you as crazy as she is? It IS the republican party that has messed up  this Country over the last 8 yrs. We may not get out of this mess we  are in. Take your head out of the sand. Obama IS the best selection  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-142">Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by  Leo (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 17:17.</div><div><p>Mrs.  Palin is much more qualified to be President than Obama who has done  absolutely nothing but organize thugs in ACORN! She could save this  Country from Socialism and all the corruption the Democrats are up to.  He is not capable of telling the truth and Hollywood and the Media are  doing their best to cover for him. He is not qualified to be a Senator  and should be on trial for treason.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-141">Pailin </a></div><div> Submitted by GE Mayer (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 16:53.</div><div><p>Not  only is Palin not qualified to be Vice President much less President, I  am incensed, that John McCain would insult my intellegence by picking  such a &#8220;newby&#8221; above several well qualified, experienced women who have  served the country and the Republican party.<br
/> I expect my Comander in Chief to Carefully sellect an individual more  qualified than him/herself to take over. It shows John&#8217;s thinking.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-140">Palin?  Presidential material?  No, doggone it!</a></div><div> Submitted by Krissi (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:35.</div><div><p>While  I admire Sarah Palin&#8217;s spunk and determination, I think that she is  completely out of her league as not only a vice president but also a  president. If people would take a good look at her record, they&#8217;d see  that she doesn&#8217;t even have a good grasp of the issues.</p><p>In addition, she&#8217;s been caught in numerous lies and distortions. For  example, she did not sell a jet on eBay &#8212; she tried but failed; the  jet was sold later to a private buyer. She did not leave the town of  Wasilla financially sound; she left it in debt. She says she;ll be a  strong supporter of kids with needs. In truth, Palin actually slashed  funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%.</p><p>And her famous, &#8220;I told the Congress &#8220;thanks, but no thanks,&#8221; for  that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we&#8217;d build it  ourselves&#8221; line? More spin. Congress&#8217; requirement that funds be spent  on that bridge (aka the &#8216;earmark&#8217;) were removed before Sarah Palin  became governor. She was, therefore, in no position to tell Congress  anything about the bridge, one way or the other. During her campaign,  she said she supported funding for the bridge.</p><p>There are more examples, of the fibs and many examples of her poor  insight into our nation&#8217;s problems. I could list them all, but I  encourage you to do your own homework (forwarded emails DO NO COUNT)!</p><p>If MCCain and Palin win this election, I&#8217;ll probably be hoping for a lengthy, overseas assignment &#8212; maybe four years or more!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-139">Palin is Failin</a></div><div> Submitted by GA for Brains in the White House (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:02.</div><div><p>W &#8211; below C student<br
/> McCain &#8211; at the bottom of his class<br
/> Are we really electing the best? Shouldn&#8217;t we elect someone better than  we are? And someone not ready for the assisted living home? Someone who  can remember the name of his opponent instead of calling him &#8220;that  one&#8221;. McCain left right away after the debate &#8211; seniors do go to bed  early, probably past his bedtime. As for integrity, check out McCain&#8217;s  involvement in the S&#038;L bailout, he was right there along side W&#8217;s  brother Neil. All working to steal investors&#8217; money. Just like King  Henry is doing now, rewarding his Wall St. buddies.</p><p><strong>And we wonder why this happens to us???</strong></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-138">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Ed Sherrill (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 10:49.</div><div><p>Not  only is Sarah Palin competent to become President, she is idealogically  and tempermentally better suited to be President than John McCain.  Republicans are going to be very sorry thet chose McCain over Mitt  Romney. I only pray the Democrates don&#8217;t screw up the country so bad  over the next four years that it can&#8217;t be fixed.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-136">Is she for real?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 22:13.</div><div><p>If  Joe Biden winked at the camera 5-6 times during the debate, wouldn&#8217;t we  be calling him a pervert? Come on people, get serious. Sarah Palin is a  joke &#8212; an embarrassment to Americans who take our politics &#8212; and the  plight of our country &#8212; seriously.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-134">Is Sarah Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.selfhelpdaily.com" rel="nofollow">Joi</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:34.</div><div><p>To  be sure, Sarah Palin doesn&#8217;t deserve the crucifixion the media and  entertainment world are giving her (and her family). McCain might  deserve some of it, after all &#8211; he picked her. Why? She&#8217;s female. I  admire the man completely &#8211; he is an American hero and I can&#8217;t even  begin to imagine the hell this brave man endured.</p><p>However, when it came to choose running mates, I belive Obama chose  one that was best for the country and McCain chose one (he thought) was  best for the campaign.</p><p>I THINK that he lost the race with his choice.  I KNOW he lost my vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-133">Surprising VP choice</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">olivier blanchard</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:30.</div><div><p>Hindsight  is always 20/20. Perhaps Gov. Palin&#8217;s weaknesses weren&#8217;t 100% obvious  to Sen. McCain when he picked her. (So much for due diligence, I  guess.) Did he want a dynamic, charismatic, family-friendly VP  running-mate? Of course. And she fit the bill&#8230; on the surface, at  least. But honestly, weren&#8217;t there better choices (male or female) for  the job? Competent, charismatic, appealing, worldly Republican  governors or senators? People he actually knows and trusts? 30 years in  politics, and he can&#8217;t think of a single person he has worked with who  would be a better choice for a running mate? He goes with a complete  stranger? I find that bizarre. Irresponsible, even. I just don&#8217;t get  it. There are plenty of smart, competent, experienced women in the  Republican Party who would have made a great running mate.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-132">Don&#8217;t confuse appeal with competence</a></div><div> Submitted by DBStevens (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 12:21.</div><div><p>Too  many people in this country confuse personal appeal with competence,  and make decisions based on who&#8217;s the most charming or even who&#8217;s  sexiest. Or they make decisions based on generalities such as &#8220;we need  a woman in the White House.&#8221; A COMPETENT woman in the White House would  be a great asset to this country. There is no doubt of that.</p><p>But we can&#8217;t decide the leaders of our country based on a visceral  reaction to her charm and folksy demeanor (there is a lot of doubt as  to the sincerity of that demeanor anyway&#8230;she shows signs of being  rather ruthless). During these times of uncertainty and fear, it&#8217;s  natural to want some comfort, to feel that the person leading our  country is down-to-earth and &#8220;real.&#8217; We felt good about Bush and people  like Rudy Guiliani for a short time right after 9/11. They appealed to  our emotions and need for reassurance. But that demeanor means nothing.  It&#8217;s the actions that matter, and in the time following 9/11, both Bush  and Guiliani&#8217;s true nature was revealed&#8230; incompetence and  self-serving.</p><p>Sarah Palin acts cute and has a pretty face. That&#8217;s perfect for  president of the PTA. But has not gained enough experience to be  president of a country. The job of Vice-President or President is NOT  an &#8220;on-the-job-training&#8221; type of job. Being Mayor of a tiny town in a  remote state, then Governer of that remote, sparsely populated state  (670,000, way smaller than a city like El Paso, TX) is not enough  experience to lead a country whose every move has global implications.  Palin treated the job of Governer like a telecommuting job, she worked  form her hown home for 86% of the year.</p><p>No matter how intelligent she may seem to be, no matter how  ambitious or driven she may seem, and ESPECIALLY no matter how pretty  or charming she is, she is not ready for the responsibilities of a job  like President. Without experience, without having the time to really  begin to understand the nature of national and global dealings on every  level, no matter how much coaching or guidance she would receive, Palin  would either crumble under pressure or make very bad decisions with  repercussions that could shake this country and its international  stature to the core. Or she wouldn&#8217;t act quickly enough at  all&#8230;stalling and deflecting decisions (as she does with many  questions, or with such events as the investigation dubbeed  &#8220;Troopergate&#8221;).</p><p>I also worry about the demands of her family. During times of her  family&#8217;s need, do we want someone faced with the dilemma of either  neglecting her family&#8217;s needs because of her duties as Vice-President,  or neglecting the VP duties because of her family&#8217;s needs? Neither of  those are good choices&#8230;.Sarah Palin has too many personal  responsibilities.</p><p>Palin also shows all the signs of behavior very similar to  Bush&#8217;s&#8230;including a tendency toward cronyism, abuse of power, and  self-serving decisions that flout the law.</p><p>She even mispronounces the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221; just like Bush. Certainly  that&#8217;s a small point, and that pronunciation is commonly recognized as  a sub-standard metathesis of the word, but it&#8217;s very annoying to listen  to.</p><p>So wake up American. Move your responses from your gut to your  brains, and make sure you understand the repercussions of your vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-131">I&#8217;m moving&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.andyosier.com" rel="nofollow">Andy Osier</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 10:15.</div><div><p>John  McCain himself isn&#8217;t capable of running the country; I shudder to think  of the train wreck a Palin administration would be. If they win, I&#8217;m  seriously considering a moving. How&#8217;s the January weather in Berlin,  Chris?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-130">Big State&#8230;&#8230;little experience!</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/126" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 18:11.</div><div><p>Granted, we&#8217;ve got plenty to worry about at home!<br
/> But we&#8217;re talking about a Governor of a state bordered by 2 foreign  countries, Palin is the proud NEW owner of a passport! (barely 1 year)<br
/> The world is smaller than ever and so is our standing in it. We don&#8217;t  need &#8220;a little Wasilla in Washington&#8221;. We already have a narrow minded  view of the world with our current administration.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-129">Palin for presidnet?</a></div><div> Submitted by Joyce (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>She  would call on the brightest brains in the Republican party, put them in  positions of power and support, and do her best to do the best she  could for her country. She&#8217;s an acheiver and would never accept failure  for herself. She has Condeleesa, Romneys, Huckabees and several others  who want to serve and members to help and advise her. Her history shows  that she uses support and advise to guide her towards her goals and  accomplishments. She would take the credit for it too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-128">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Allison (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:10.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-127">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:08.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-126">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:47.</div><div><p>She didn&#8217;t ride in on her &#8220;own merits&#8221; She rode in on her SEX. PERIOD.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-125">If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by RisingFromDecadence (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:17.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  the most frightening and compelling reason to not elect McCain to date.  It&#8217; clear that the choice was to win vs. what&#8217;s right for the country.  And it saddens me that with so many strong female candidates out there  McCain has landed on this choice. It speaks volumes of his lack of  sound judgement and doesn&#8217;t do justice to the feminist movement.</p><p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with &#8220;Double Standard&#8217;s&#8221; comments about  education, and intelligence vs. the &#8220;experience&#8221; of a low-population  governor. Has it somehow become a negative trait for our president to  be articulate well educated and even published?</p><p>I think its safe to now say, like every great civilization, America  has grown from it&#8217;s indestructible, can-do &#8220;adolescence,&#8221; and has  entered it&#8217;s &#8220;decadent&#8221; period of greed, fear, fat and a lack of clear  vision. America needs a president who will bring intelligence, a new  vision, and optimism so that we don&#8217;t lose the real values we&#8217;ve grown  up to believe are American such as truth, innovation, compassion,  charity and vision.</p><p>Our values as a nation should not be confused with same sex  marriages or religious agendas. I seem to remember from my grade school  social studies classes that America was born as a nation with the  purpose and promise of many freedoms. Personal choice values are not to  be mixed with National values. Growing up, this difference has been why  I&#8217;ve been so proud to be an American. In the last 8 years much has  changed. I believe that only with the leadership of Obama will we be  able to regain our credibility and our course as a nation. Most  importantly, America could be &#8220;Proud Again.&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-124">Answer the question</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ascannerbrightly.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jaz-Michael King</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 10:40.</div><div><p>As  an unbiased, unable-to-vote immigrant, can I point out that as usual,  from either of your minimalist two sides, when the question is simply  If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be  competent to be President?&#8221;, the arguments spin off to why the opponent  isn&#8217;t. Maybe that will be the next question, but like I wanted to yell  at Palin while watching the debate&#8230; answer the question posed to you.</p><p>Everyone has their weak points, and in some respects, Obama, who has  considerably more than two years in the US Senate as his experience (he  was a state senator, you know) has plenty. However, I think there&#8217;s a  good reason hockey moms and joe sixpacks don&#8217;t run. No-one wants  regular folk in charge. You all want a ruling elite no matter how much  you profess to the contrary.</p><p>There are plenty of strong, competent women on both sides of the aisle in the USA. Gov. Palin is not one of them.</p><p>She is not qualified because she is not qualified. Being as  unqualified as anyone you wish to compare her to does not make her  qualified. Her inabilty to answer a straight question makes her  unqualified. I personally believe the fact she is the kind of person  who can compete in a beauty contest makes her unqualified. And as of  today, her assertion that Obama&#8217;s political career started off in the  living room of a terrorist (all of a sudden, he&#8217;s been a politician a  lot longer than two years according to the Republicans) has pulled her  from the absurd to the surreal.</p><p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Obama seems to pander to some vaporous &#8220;change&#8221; mentality, but that wasn&#8217;t the question.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-122">Just because she could, does not mean she should.</a></div><div> Submitted by Bjshazam (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:34.</div><div><p>Does  it not trouble anyone who has been posting here that we have reached  this point at all? I&#8217;ve been writing draft after draft of posts here,  trying to find the right balance that won&#8217;t come across as too  ideological, or that won&#8217;t be automatically dismissed by the true  sycophants because it contains some Left or Right code word that  justifies their turning off of the brain. Can&#8217;t do it. She&#8217;s too  dangerous, and it angers me so much that we as a country have been put  in the position of having to opine about the staggering impropriety of  her selection as McCain&#8217;s running mate.</p><p>Consider:</p><p>My brother is a great guy. Smart as a whip, with what I think is  decent judgment (except for his love of the Yankees). I trust him  implicitly. So, should I be in a position to name him to, say, the  Supreme Court, I would expect no questions from anyone about his  qualifications. According to the Constitution, he is legally qualified  to be a Justice, even the Chief Justice. I already told you he is smart  and has good judgment. What else do you need to know? How dare you  question my choice or his desire to serve?</p><p>The President of the United States has a mind bogglingly huge amount  of discretion in executing the job. The president can, without  obstruction by court or Congress, lay waste to our financial system,  impede entirely the execution of justice, or unleash Armageddon. The  office of the president can disband virtually unilaterally the entirety  of the intelligence gathering power of the U.S., or focus it all on the  least secure among us &#8212; with no recourse by anyone.</p><p>Most of the time, this isn&#8217;t an issue. Regardless of your political  persuasion, we have been blessed mostly with chief executives that took  the burdens of job dead seriously. A president of the entire country,  not just those who cast the votes.</p><p>Now the bar has been set so low that we cannot figure out the right  words to describe how wrong it is for a candidate to relish the fact  that she really doesn&#8217;t understand the job the Constitution has laid  out. That this is somehow an asset to a campaign makes me ashamed for  my country.</p><p>That John McCain affirmatively foisted this train wreck upon his own  party, and possibly upon the country, is a sin for which he should  never be forgiven.</p><p>That she is considered by some to be the next face of the GOP, and a  real contender for the nomination next time around, should make my GOP  colleagues shudder and the nation weep.</p><p>I don&#8217;t want a hockey mom or joe six-pack running the country. Hell,  I don&#8217;t want anyone like me running the country. I want a president.  And she is not it.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-121">make that Palin UNQUALIFIED PERIOD</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:25.</div><div><p>Darn, brain outrunning my fingers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-120">Palin qualified period</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:22.</div><div><p>And  the mental midgets who are using that as a ruse to comment on Obama  miss the entire point. Biden IS qualified to fill in shoudl something  happen to Obama (go to smoking gun to see why that IS an issue).</p><p>Palin is a bimbo and if you do not think so, Palin supporters, then  take this simple acid test: were it Obama who made those brain dead  comments instead of Palin, what would you be saying about him? Gotcha!</p><p>jim</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-119">Palin Not Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:01.</div><div><p>Anyone  that believes that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President is kidding  themselves. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. The  fact that she is SO unqualified is what made her pick an insult to  every hard-working, intelligent woman out there. She was picked for her  good looks and her folksy charm. There were MANY more qualified women  in the ranks of the Republican party that could have been chosen.<br
/> Palin attended five different colleges before she was finally able to  stick out a degree program. She majored in journalism and  communications and couldn&#8217;t name ONE newspaper or magazine that she  reads on a regular basis. She minored in political science and doesn&#8217;t  know what the Vice President&#8217;s role and duties are in our government.  She has abused her power in every political post she has been elected  to, has lied about her record both as mayor and governor and her short  political career has been marked by scandal. She says that she fought  the energy interests in Alaska, but her campaigns have all been heavily  funded by energy companies.<br
/> In short, she&#8217;s not smart, she&#8217;s lacks integrity, she has gotten most  of what she has attained on her looks and charm and these things don&#8217;t  add up to someone who is qualified for Vice President, nevermind the  Presidency. If you want her to be your leader, move to Alaska. This  country and the world cannot afford another incompetent leader at the  helm. One more bumbling idiot at the helm will spell doom for the  future of all of the citizens of this country.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-118">qualifications.</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Crazy Politico</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 20:10.</div><div><p>If Gov. Palin isn&#8217;t qualified to &#8220;POSSIBLY&#8221; become president, then what of Barack Obama?</p><p>What exactly is his qualification for the job? A couple of  non-descript years in the Senate with no major legislation to show for  that time? A history of voting &#8220;Here&#8221; on controversial issues so as to  keep a rather neutral record when running for the next higher office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-117">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 14:49.</div><div><p>Does  she have enough political experience for the position of president? I  would say not&#8230;.. but then again, there&#8217;s nothing like a long run of a  president that can&#8217;t even string a sentence together in English to  remind you that you don&#8217;t really need much skill for the job. It&#8217;s  whose behind the president that counts no?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-116">Is Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by Thoughtful_Independent (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 11:49.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  a registered independent. I was waiting for the VP picks to be made  before making my mind up. VP&#8217;s Gore and Cheney have both illustrated  the growing importance of the VP position in the Executive Branch. The  magnitude of the nations and worlds problems highlight the fact that  the top two elected officials in the US need to have a wide range of  capabilities., strong intellect, and global perspective. At minimum,  the President needs a knowledgeable confidant and advisor he/she can  trust.</p><p>For all of her folksy charm, Governor Palin displays very little of  these qualities or qualifications. If you take the time to investigate  the educational and professional accomplishments of our sitting VP&#8217;s  over the past 50 years, even the most biased observer would conclude  that Governor Palin would be the least educated and least experienced.  If you don&#8217;t have the time to look at all of them, just compare her  against Dan Quayle who was arguably the weakest of the sitting VP&#8217;s.  Quayle&#8217;s accomplishments at the time he was selected as Bush&#8217;s running  mate dwarf Palin&#8217;s.</p><p>Upon inspection, the rabid and exaggerated claims about her energy  expertise and executive experience vaporize (the claims of foreign  policy experience are not even a valid topic). Living in an oil rich  state, shuffling petrodollars from the oil companies to the citizens in  the form of dividends, &#8220;negotiating&#8221; potential terms of a yet unplanned  and unfunded natural gas pipeline, and a college degree in journalism  do not qualify one as an energy expert.</p><p>Furthermore, the role of Governor of Alaska is diminished in  complexity compared to the Governors of the lower 48 due to factors  such as: 1) very small population (the whole state has a population  smaller than typical medium sized US cities), 2) the largest Alaskan  cities are smaller than many small ciities or large towns in the lower  48 (Anchorage = ~280K, Fairbanks = ~35K, Juneau = ~35K), 3) low  industrial output (Alaska is ranked near the bottom compared to the  other 50 states), and 4) a budget which is majority funded by revenues  from oil and gas companies. The hardest problem of the Alaskan governor  appears to be deciding how much money to send from the Permanent Fund  to the citizens versus how much to stash away for a future time when  oil revenues begin declining.</p><p>I find the argument that Palin has more &#8220;executive experience&#8221; than  McCain, Obama or Biden to be disingenuous. If executive experience is  really so important, Mitt Romney should be the Republican candidate for  President or, at minimum, the VP candidate. While I was not a huge fan  of Mr. Romney, his skillset is so superior to Palin&#8217;s that comparisons  are impossible. The same can be said with respect to experience in  matters of the economy. Ironically, Mr. Romney&#8217;s biggest shortcoming  appeared to be that he was a Washington outsider. Now being from our  most remote state is a strength for Palin?</p><p>My perspective is that the most successful Presidents of the last 50  years (for arguments sake Eisenhower, Reagan and Clinton) were able to  balance their core idealogical positions with advocacy for programs and  policies that improved the situation for the majority of US citizens  and improved our stature in the global community. Each of these  Presidents had well educated and highly skilled running mates. As an  Independent who holds a blend of conservative and liberal positions,  this mix is what I am weighing the most. My assessment is that  Obama/Biden have a better overall leadership/intelligence/world view  profile than McCain/Palin. McCain could have selected a male or female  running mate who would have tilted my assessment in his favor.  Unfortunately, for reasons only he and his advisors can comprehend, he  went with a female ideologue with weak academic, intellectual and  professional skills.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-115">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 06:15.</div><div><p>@  CanIGet2NewZealand</p><p>What does it take to satisfy people like you?<br
/> or&#8230; is this a display of jealousy ? Ms Palin does make a rather  impressive appearance on a simple &#8216;ride in from the Wilds of Alaska&#8217;.<br
/> Instead of complimenting a person on a job well done you prefer to show the &#8220;cat fight&#8221; attitude.<br
/> What has Obama more than Palin?</p><p>If Obama had been a white boy from Illinois, would he have received  the nomination of the Dem Party? If your answer is NO _ then you must  vote for Palin for she rode in on her own merits not on her skin color!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb" rel="nofollow">REB 84</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 00:35.</div><div><p>Would John McCain be a competent president?  This is a question you should be asking.<br
/> <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-113">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by CanIGet2NewZealand (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Palin has been governor of a state with the population of Poughkeepsie, New York .</p><p>The State of Alaska, despite its conservative appearance has been  giving out money to its citizens from its oil dividens (Alaska  Permanent Fund) (<a
href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style" title="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style">http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style</a>)  since the 1970&#8242;s. The money Palin boasts about giving her citizens is  money of this sort, the citizens of Alaska have been receiving these  payments for almost 40 years. How can she use these payments as part of  a discussion of her fiscal capabilities as Governor?</p><p>Governor Palin impresses me as being a cross between a Barbie Doll  and that really annoying head cheerleader that the intelligent girls  all could not stand in highschool.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-112">Palin was a mistake for McCain in the 1st Place</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/people/FranklinB?view=documents&#038;viewingAsOthers=true" rel="nofollow">FranklinB</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>I  have been publishing my thoughts on this matter for awhile now  regarding the selection of Sarah Palin for VP. I gave my views on her  initial selection here:</p><p>Did John McCain have good judgement?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is not my Vice President<br
/> <a
href="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179" title="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179">http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is just another pretty face<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323</a></p><p>McCain will have to pick a new VP<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699</a></p><p>VP Debate was great, for Biden and Obama<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625</a></p><p>Overall I agree that McCain is kind of a maverick, but also he is a  big gambler. Instead of picking one of the most qualified in the arena,  he went outside to a relatively unknown woman who he knew could  energize the base. That has happened, but with such obvious liabilities  that only a pure conservative will think she is qualified, because pure  conservatives don&#8217;t care who is in that position as long as that person  is republican, conservative and can walk &#038; talk. Hannity has said  publicly that he believes she would be qualified to fill the top job,  and so did Limbaugh as well. I got yelled at the other day by one of my  very oldest and best friends who couldn&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t think she  was for real. That was before the Couric interview. Now after the  debate I know I have made the right choice with Obama and Biden. The  financial collapse is bad enough, but if there was a President Palin  someday, it could be an even worse disaster for our country.</p><p>Obama and Biden are consistant in their positions on the Iraq war  and other matters regarding the need to help the middle class. I  believe McCain has no interest in the working class folks in this  country, and even if Palin does have that interest, she is not  knowledgeable enough to make any difference. JMHO</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-111">You&#8217;re Kidding, right?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://onthebloc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Shelly Roberts</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 14:04.</div><div><p>Sarah  Pallin is an embarrassment to the Republican Party, who may well be  qualified to run for PTA vice president, but hardly for the  heart-beat-away position of Vice President of the United States.</p><p>In the debate with Sen. Bieden Palin spoke repeatedly an d stiltedly  from obviousy drilled-in talking points rather than from any  appropriate knowledge. With a wooden, albeit cheerful presentation  worthy of earning her the title of Best Stepford Candidate.</p><p>Palin&#8217;s presentation was a constant one-note, praise-singing  golly/gee campaign advertiisement for John McCain, and did litttle if  anything to present any viable credentials as a candidate for the high  office into which she has been so thoughtlessly thrust.</p><p>I&#8217;d pity her for the position for which she has been recruited if  the holder of that position didn&#8217;t stand such a strong chance of  becoming the leader of the free world with a 79 year old unhealthy  running mate &#8211;shudder&#8211; a horrifying thought.</p><p>It shouldn&#8217;t be enough merely that she didn&#8217;t panic, screw up or cry  to qualify her as even a contender in the so-called debate. I have some  issues with Mr. Bidden as well, but at least he came across as someone  who has done more than simply look west and north in the direction of  the former Soviet Union, and self-pronounce a competency in foreign  affairs. That&#8217;s way too much like watching Animal Planet and  proclaiming veterinary competence with elephants.</p><p>Did Sarah win the debate?  She wasn&#8217;t ever even qualified to enter the race.</p><p>Is she qualified to be President regardless of the state of John McCain&#8217;s health?  You&#8217;re kidding, right?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-110">Dummy be gone! THINK!</a></div><div> Submitted by Skillet Marimba (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 11:27.</div><div><p>The G.O.P. targets DUMMYS but DUMMYS are finally starting to wake up. Dummy be gone.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-108">If McCain Died, Is Sarah Palin Qualified To Lead This Nation?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://legalconsulting.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obama-biden-a-winning-ticketbut-obama-clinton-a-landslide-victory/" rel="nofollow">Patrick Pearce</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:33.</div><div><p>Let  me first establish that I am not hopping on any band waggon here to  vilify or demonize Sarah Palin because she is a woman. My argument is  limited to choice. Based on both Vice Presidential Candidates, Sarah  Palin and Joe Biden of the Republican and Democratic Party  respectively, should one of these men (Whether Obama or McCain) died or  become incapacitated as President of the United States, and  constitutionally the Vice President is next in line to assume the  presidency, I unequivocally would trust the experience of Joe Biden to  lead this great Nation over Sarah Palin. I am sure I share the same  views as most sensible Americans. I used to hear that John McCain was a  stubborn man, I am now convinced. There are so many more experience and  viable Republicans out there to be VP, why did he chose Sarah Palin? If  only some of these potentially great men would listen to somebody  instead of arrogating to themselves because of ego, they would be such  great leaders. Obama-Biden victory in November, hands down! See my  recent post at: <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-107">Palin Better than Most</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thescoundrel.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">thescoundrel</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:21.</div><div><p>I  tend to disbelieve anything that comes out of any politicians mouth.  Politicians are liars&#038; cheats. While they are kissing your baby  they are picking your pocket at the same time. The President&#8217;s Job is  limited. The Congress is where most of the power in this country lies.  They make legislation, they pass legislation and even if the President  vetoes that legislation, they have the power to override it. A relative  rookie politician, Palin, actually has more executive experience than  McCain, Biden or Obama. Now that is scary since she is merely a VP  nominee. I would vote for her over Obama or Biden. She has a limited  track track record of what Obama/Biden pretends to have without any  track record to prove their claims: Palin has shown the grit to fight  her own party as governor of Alaska. Obama has shown me nothing for the  time he was in my state of Illinois government or once he was elected  Senator. He was no more than a puppet to Emile Jones that is the strong  arm thug of DEmocrat Gov. Governor Blagodabitch, the soon to be cell  mate of ex Republican Gov. George Ryan. So yeah I would trust Palin  much further than I would Obama leading this nation. Obama only  understands Chicago and Springfield style corruption which he was a  part of.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-106">If John McCain died&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Pat Baker (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 08:21.</div><div><p>To Anonymous:<br
/> I have been hollering &#8220;Double Standard&#8221; all summer&#8221;. You hit the nail  on the spot. When Obama was trained by the late great Saul Alinsky  &#038; his staff to learn how to be a better community activist, take  surveys, housing problems, school problems in the poor Chicago  districts, Palin sneered at the his outcomings, stating all those  programs arenow defunct. Her ignorance is bliss. Reason: Viet Nam war,  &#038; the 60&#8242;s riots cost us plenty At least Obama was vetted. Some  pundits t laughed him. I too, was trained by Alinsky, this great Jewish  community consultant for the poor back in the late 60&#8242;s. If Palin was  crossed examined by a Judge/Atty she would simply say I will only  answer the questions I wish to reply to. My people call it &#8220;double  standard&#8221;. Thanks, Anonymous for reminding me that I don&#8217;t need on the  job training vp by McCain/Palin ticket.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-104">my vote</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.squidoo.com/leanandripped" rel="nofollow">joe</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:35.</div><div><p>Ihave  no faith or trust in any politition, democrat or republican, they all  end up shafting the middle class in the end,She will be no better or  worse than the rest of the lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-103">This Election is More Irritating than Usual</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:26.</div><div><p>Why  do people feel someone who has been a Senator for 2 years is more  qualified to be President than in the unlikely event McCain has to be  replaced by Govenor Palin??? The other thing that keeps being over  looked is Nancy Pelosi has been two heartbeats away from President??  She is qualified?? Unfortunately, people are being too influenced by  the media and not doing there own research. Quit using the medias  opinions and form your own. Do some real research. Somethinf fun to do  is go to <a
href="http://abcnews.go.com/politics" title="http://abcnews.go.com/politics">http://abcnews.go.com/politics</a> scroll down to the Match-o-Matic II  game.  It is ver interesting.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-102">Does Being Governor Make Governor Palin Qalified?</a></div><div> Submitted by artbcpa (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 01:54.</div><div><p>In  &#8220;Third Out of Four&#8221; the commentator points out that Clinton and Reagan  were both Governors before becoming President. We shouldn&#8217;t forget that  Jimmy Carter was also a Governor before becoming the most incompetent  president in the history of the United Staetes. He also may have been  among the academically brightest of all recent Presidents. What does  all that tell us?. &#8230;NOTHING.</p><p>Whether Sarah Palin was a Governor or Barack Obama was at the top of  his academic class does not ensure that either will or will not do a  good job in their respective positions.</p><p>We need to make our decision based on factors more likely to lead to  a successful Presidency. After eight years of the most secretive,  nontransparent Presidency in history, we need someone who will instill  trust in the institution of the Presidency and restore confidence in  the people of the country.</p><p>We had several such Presidents in the prior century &#8211; Franklin  Roosevelt, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan. Each had a vision for the  country which was clearly articulated and embraced by the people. In a  choice between the idealistic Barack Obama and the wily curmudgeon,  John McCain, Barack Obama is clearly the choice of what this country  needs at this time in history.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-101">Palin is not our woman.</a></div><div> Submitted by Pam (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:59.</div><div><p>I  know that I do not want Palin. I know that I don’t want her anywhere  near our foreign policy. I know that I don’t like what she said in the  debate about ‘expanding’ the role of vice president. I know that I  don’t like her far right, religious views that can impact the world in  a bunch of ways that I don’t like.</p><p>There are other things I don’t like about her, though, I can’t say I  am completely sure about my reasoning. I don’t like her winks and her  nods. I don’t like how she talks to us like children.</p><p>I question my own opinion about these things, as I am not sure if I  know what I want or expect in a female politician. It’s a very  important thing. This first woman. This example of all of us. This  person in whom I place so much of my future and that of my daughters.  Hmmm, too much pressure?!?</p><p>Do I want her to be more of a man than any of the men at the table?  Competing in the same way as men, but climbing the ladder in stilettos?  Or do I want her to be the nurturing female that gets things done  without men being any the wiser? With charm and feminine wiles that  could will men to do what they might not have done, otherwise?</p><p>I thought, when considering Hillary, that I didn’t want a woman  President who had a husband that is a former President. My sister then  pointed out that we might not consider too many women that did not have  such a sense of the White House.</p><p>It’s difficult. These women, up for consideration, don’t have  military backgrounds. Yet, she would be responsible for ‘pushing the  button’ and/or ending a war.</p><p>I guess, even if I did not have a problem with her foreign presence,  her religious intent or her understanding of the role she was about to  take on, I would still have an issue to deal with.</p><p>So, I don’t like Sarah, but, who do I like?  And, the bigger question for me, why?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-100">Re: Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by FD (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:24.</div><div><p>To King of Chatalot: I&#8217;m an independant, but I voted once and the poll will not allow me to vote again.<br
/> The only way someone could vote twice is through a proxy, but I tested that idea fater reading your comment.<br
/> It didn&#8217;t work.<br
/> I tried several different proxies, I reset my ip, and nope, it would not allow me to vote again.</p><p>Take off the tin foil hat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-99">Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.chatalot.net" rel="nofollow">King of Chatalot</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 22:11.</div><div><p>I  find it amazing that Democrats would stoop so low as to make multiple  votes in this silly poll just to bend the outcome towards their way of  thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..so to make it appear as if they are the  winners&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>&#8230;but then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;considering that they will ultimately lose in November I&#8217;m not totally surprised&#8230;&#8230;..</p><p>&#8230;..merely amazed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-98">Palin&#8217;s hand on the &#8220;Nukular&#8221; button? </a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mediaconcepts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Media Concepts</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 21:39.</div><div><p>I  can&#8217;t decide whether that&#8217;s hilarious, or horrifyingly frightening. I  think it&#8217;s both. Based on McCain&#8217;s age alone, historian Doris Kearns  Goodwin says that there&#8217;s almost a one in three chance that McCain  would die in office were he to be elected. Factor in his FOUR bouts of  Melanoma, which is often fatal regardless of the victim&#8217;s age, and  those odds increase markedly.</p><p>Something to think about.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-97">It&#8217;s about leadership</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://politicalvindication.com" rel="nofollow">Shane from PV</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:30.</div><div><p>The  presidency is about leadership, and if we can survive eight years being  led by an Arkansas governor who would rather molest the hired help than  pay attention to what Osama Bin Laden is doing, then America will do  just fine with a President Sarah Palin. She certainly has more  leadership experience than her opponents. Does that mean I would have  made her my choice for VP? I would have loved to see Mitt Romney as VP,  but she&#8217;s smart, focused, and knows how to lead. The important  question, if she should ever end up in the Oval Office, would be who  she surrounds herself with. That&#8217;s another reason why Obama would be  very scary as president. He has terrible judgment, and considering the  people he has surrounded himself with throughout his life, and the fact  that as president he will have to decide what advice to act on when it  comes to important issues &#8211; I don&#8217;t trust him to be able to distinguish  from among a bevy of poor advisers the advice least damaging.</p><p>Obama supporters, like so many on this comment board, have no idea  who Obama really is &#8211; frankly, no one does. Obama has locked up his  records, is protected by a compliant press, and says only what he  thinks Americans want to hear. He&#8217;s a charlatan, but his supporters  don&#8217;t care. <em>That&#8217;s why this question is so ironic.</em> They hate  Bush/Republicans/conservatives more than they fear the inexperience of  their presidential candidate and manchild Barack Obama. The derangement  of the left has led them to support and oppose issues not because they  want to protect their country or improve the lives of Americans, but  because they hate their adversaries and will do or say anything to beat  them (the &#8220;this war is lost&#8221; quote by Harry Reid comes to mind &#8211; how  incredibly telling). I think this frothing derangement will cause them  to self-destruct again as they did in 2000 and 2004, where Americans  got a good look at the mindless bitterness and spite that inspires the  left. McCain will win in a squeaker.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-96">Palin is more qualified than most&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Greg (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:24.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a big political kind of guy nor do I follow many campaigns. I voted  for a democrat and a republican for president; the best person for the  job always gets my vote. But this is the first time in a long time that  I&#8217;ve seen an honest person make it this far in politics. Usually they  get creamed by the media &#8211; Palin is still holding her own. What you see  is what you get &#8211; nice change of pace especially since I&#8217;m originally  from Delaware. No doubt this isn&#8217;t true for Biden &#8211; he&#8217;s all over the  place telling you whatever it is you want to hear whenever you want to  hear it.. I don&#8217;t dislike Biden and yes, he is qualified to continue  the same old Washington politics; not what I&#8217;m looking for this year at  least.</p><p>I&#8217;m still wondering why Obama thinks Biden represents change? Not even close.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-95">Sarah Palin&#8217;s much sharper than Obama or Biden</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.morethings.com" rel="nofollow">Al Barger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:08.</div><div><p>Not  to put too fine a point on it, Sarah Palin&#8217;s the sharpest person of the  four here. People I think get that when they get a good look at her as  in her famous nomination speech or last night&#8217;s vice presidential  debate.</p><p>Of course, this ain&#8217;t from lack of media attempts to Quayle-ize her.  Look at the double, triple, quadruple standards. It&#8217;s supposedly some  proof that she&#8217;s a moron that she didn&#8217;t choose to spit up a list of  newspapers she reads for Katie Couric.</p><p>But Joe Biden says the most ignorant nonsense day after day, and it  doesn&#8217;t make the news. When the current financial meltdown started a  few weeks ago, Biden was out criticizing Bush reaction. See, when the  1929 market crash happened, FDR when on television to show people that  he was involved and doing something. FDR wasn&#8217;t president, and there  was no television then. This nonsense didn&#8217;t make the news. Imagine if  Palin said something that stupid.<br
/> =====================================<br
/> Little known Palin fact:<br
/> FACT: Having run out of ammunition during a hunting trip, Sarah Palin  once took down a moose using a beauty pageant tiara as a boomerang.</p><p>More Palin fun facts I just made up, and a couple hundred pictures of our girl<br
/> <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-94">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Robert (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:00.</div><div><p>Joe Biden, VP  (Vice and Plagiarist)</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-93">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ethel W (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:50.</div><div><p>Obama has done much good thru working for ACORN.  Remember, from tiny acorns, might oak trees grow.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-92">Barack&#8217;s leadership skills in government?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:43.</div><div><p>Please folks &#8211; give us an example.  And please, make it a good one.</p><p>If this were an election for Student Body President, I might vote  for the dude, but he&#8217;s applying to be the Leader of the United States  of America. Is there anything in his governmental experience that  indicates that he can be a great leader? Anything?</p><p>This ain&#8217;t no popularity contest&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-91">Palin as Prez? No Way</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://janetleejohnson.com" rel="nofollow">Janet Johnson</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  tired of Sarah Palin. I&#8217;m tired of kicking her around, of waiting for  her to have a public brain freeze, of hearing her droppin&#8217; g&#8217;s and  bringing nuc-u-lur back into the lexicon (I hope we&#8217;re almost finished  with that coming out of the White House).</p><p>At the same time, I&#8217;m proud that she&#8217;s the second legitimate woman  who&#8217;s a running mate on a presidential ticket, the first to &#8220;electrify&#8221;  a country. I&#8217;m mortified as I write that, but I&#8217;m proud of that big ol&#8217;  crack in the glass ceilin&#8217; she&#8217;s added to Hilary&#8217;s 18 million others.  (sigh)</p><p>As most of your poll-takers agree, no way is she qualified to be president. God help us all if she&#8217;s a heartbeat away.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-90">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Stevie (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:35.</div><div><p>Do  I feel that a citizen of this country who has not kept abreast of the  foreign policy situations, and the current administration doctrines is  qualified to step in as head of state in an emergency? No&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who will terminate people who disagree with her is worthy to be in the White House? No&#8230;&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who feels that because she is a woman she should  be treated with deference in a television interview should be leading a  country? No&#8230;..<br
/> Does a cram session with various political pundits counteract her  inacurate knowledge of what life is like for the rest of us in the  lower 48? No&#8230;&#8230;<br
/> Does this woman have the ability to gain respect of various world  leaders particularly those from countries where women are considered to  be less than equal? no.<br
/> what we really need is a Margaret Thatcher type.. the closest we have is Hilary Clinton.<br
/> Anita Palin is no Hilary Clinton<br
/> And being a POW and being in the Vietnam War does not make you the  right person to be president either. There are plenty of Vietnam Vets  and others who were POW&#8217;s .. and they aren&#8217;t running for President&#8211;  though John Kerry did.. and he wasn&#8217;t a POW.. he served his country.  Don&#8217;t bank on that one being the ACE..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-89">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:29.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would want his friend Tony Rezko to advise him on ethics in government.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-88">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would like William Ayers for his Secretary of Defense, since he knows how to blow things up.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-87">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:25.</div><div><p>Maybe  Obama can install Rev. Wright as Secretary of State. All the other  nations of the world will love his philosophy: God damn America!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-86">Re: amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:23.</div><div><p>I  think where the logic breaks down is that you&#8217;re assuming all  Governor&#8217;s are created equally. An American Governor&#8217;s principal job is  running the state, and to be honest, I&#8217;m not sure how good a governor  she is, but thats for the people of Alaska to decide. But as an  American, I feel that she&#8217;s dangerously ignorant of world affairs and  issues around a global economy.</p><p>And frankly, I think we&#8217;ve had enough of that already.</p><p>On the other hand, Obama and Biden are far more savvy. If you  watched the debate, you&#8217;ll have noticed how rarely Palin answers a  direct question. She&#8217;s not dumb, but she&#8217;s not worldly either. And  worse, she revels in her inexperience.</p><p>If she ever gets into the Presidential office, you might just wish  for the good ol days when GW was in charge. And if that doesn&#8217;t scare  you, it should.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-85">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:21.</div><div><p>Don&#8217;t you love it when a public relations man calls people degrading, hateful names?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-84">That is just dumb</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:16.</div><div><p>You  and your swill slinging dopes really should stop. Aside from Billy Bobs  missing teeth with Confederate Flags in their pickups, Americans  understand that Senator Obama is as American as you or I.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-83">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:15.</div><div><p>Someone  commented on here that we live in a Global society and therefore need  Obama. Folks, this world is getting so screwy and dangerous, that is  exactly why we do NOT need a post-modern green horn such as Obama as  POTUS. All the pie in the sky he professes is absolutely meaningless  without solid, tough, and REAL national security. Somehow, grandiose  social programs lose their luster when you have a nuclear missile up  your ass.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-82">double standard</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.madeinhead.org" rel="nofollow">Jason Preston</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:12.</div><div><p>Palin  took five tries and five years to get a journalism degree at  undistinguished schools, and managed to be an undistinguished student  at all four schools involved in her quest for a chance to be a TV  reporter. Obama was at the top of his class at every step of his  collegiate journey. When pressed three times to answer, Palin cannot  name a single existing newspaper or news magazine that she reads. If  you can&#8217;t see the difference here, perhaps you&#8217;re not an ideal student  or intellect either, but only through pride does a person lacking in a  certain virtue seek to exalt that lack. Just because I&#8217;m not tall  enough to slam dunk doesn&#8217;t mean I push for the NBA to hire more short  people! The Presidency&#8217;s the hardest job in the world, or one of them.  Stellar intellect, stellar ethics, and stellar success in life should  all be ironclad prerequisites to the job. If Palin is qualified to be  President, I am twice as qualified and will expect Palin fans&#8217; votes  when I make my run for high office.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-81">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Cowboy X (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:10.</div><div><p>Who  is qualified to be the President? There is no class to take to become  certified. We have to put our trust in a person. I wish that person  were Ron Paul!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-80">amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:00.</div><div><p>So  75% believe Palin cant be president in case something happens to  McCain. So I guess its OK to be an inexperienced presidential  candidate, but if your a vice presidential candidate who has actually  run a state, you don&#8217;t qualify. The logic here escapes me completely.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-79">Sarah Palin: Unfiltered</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.petitiononline.com/CBSPALIN/petition.html" rel="nofollow">John Schuller</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:50.</div><div><p>CLICK ON MY NAME TO SIGN THIS PETITION</p><p>To:  CBS News</p><p>Sarah Palin herself has requested to speak to America without the  Media Filter in the Vice Presidential debate. ?I like being able to  answer tough questions without the filter of the mainstream media  telling the American people what they just heard,? she said in her  closing.</p><p>The people of the United States of America deserve to see the CBS Katie Couric interviews with Sarah Palin in their entirety.</p><p>This should be acceptable by Republicans and Democrats as it will  let Sarah Palin talk to America without the filter created by editing  and leaving important information on the cutting room floor.</p><p>Let us see an edition of &#8220;Sarah Palin: Unfiltered&#8221;.</p><p>This will allow Americans to see the real Sarah Palin.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>The Undersigned</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-78">Seriously&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://newyorkmomentsblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">newyorkmoments</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:49.</div><div><p>regardless  of the VP candidates&#8230;are we really going to vote in a Hussein????  Seriously?? I&#8217;m saddened that I&#8217;m not going to be able to vote Democrat  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-77">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:43.</div><div><p>I  sent John McCain a $1000 in September 2007&#8230;when his campaign was  flailing. I believed his voice needed to be in the debate. Until Sarah  Palin&#8217;s acceptance speech I did not send a penny to any other  candidate.</p><p>I was so outraged by the poor judgment demonstrated by McCain &#8212;  there were thousands, if not tens of thousands, of more capable,  competent men and women who could serve as his VP. I promptly sent a  large contribution to Obama. And with every solicitation letter I  receive from John McCain (they arrive daily), I write to ask for my  money back.</p><p>Whether &#8220;Joe six-pack&#8221; likes it or not&#8230;we live in a Global  Society, not an igloo nation. We already had Joe-six pack from  President for the last 8 years. Doesn&#8217;t any one remember &#8211; &#8220;George W.  Bush is the guy I want to have at my BBQ&#8221;???&#8230;Well &#8211; we got him&#8211; only  we got bbq&#8217;d.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-76">Re: Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Eric (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:35.</div><div><p>Would it be so much to ask for a Presidential nominee who actually had some experience?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-75">Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.liesdamnedlies.com" rel="nofollow">Ian Thomas</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:32.</div><div><p>&#8230;for a VP nominee who actually had some experience *before* she takes office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-74">Third out of four</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:30.</div><div><p>Stack  rank all four candidates &#8212; Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin &#8212; in terms  of experience, and she comes out 3rd out of 4. Obama is last.</p><p>Stack rank all four candidates in terms of executive experience &#8212;  meaning, &#8216;has the candidate ever managed a budget before, had headcount  before, and had to make decisions as opposed to provide advice&#8217; &#8212; and  she incredibly comes out first amongst the four, as she&#8217;s been both  governor and mayor.</p><p>Being the governor of a state was good enough for Clinton, good enough for Romney, and good enough for Reagan.</p><p>Those who attack her experience must feel terrible that Obama is the  leading candidate for the Dem&#8217;s, given his extraordinarily thin resume.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-73">If Barack Doesn&#8217;t Die, Is He Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:29.</div><div><p>Be  honest, folks. In his career in *government*, not running a campaign,  has he ever demonstrated outstanding leadership or executive skills?  Sarah certainly has, but her experience may nonetheless be too light.</p><p>Barack Obama has the least leadership or executive skills of *any* of the major candidates for president or vice president.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-72">Not a fan, but c&#8217;mon</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:21.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a Sarah fan, but she has a solid foundation &#8212; an ability to  connect with men and women, powerfully deliver her messages and ramp up  quickly on complex subjects. The actuaries estimate that there is a 75%  chance that Mr. McCain would survive a first term. Presumably, the  chances of him passing in the first YEAR would be very small. So the  real question would be &#8212; If Sarah Palin had at least a year as Vice  President under her belt, would she be competent to be President if  John McCain were to be incapacitated? I don&#8217;t have any doubt that she  would. I will not be voting for the GOP ticket, but the fear mongering  about Ms. Palin&#8217;s ability is baseless and perhaps sexist.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-71">To Pat Baker,  Actually, she</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:01.</div><div><p>To Pat Baker,<br
/> Actually, she has NOT been governor for a few years. She has been a  governor since 2007, she won the election at the END of 2006. So, not  even 2 years yet.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-70">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:58.</div><div><p>When  a lot of people say she was put in the VP nominee ticket because she  would shake things up for the Republican party, that&#8217;s scary. Why was  that the first and foremost reason why she was picked?!</p><p>We are not running a popularity contest here for god&#8217;s sake. We need  a leader, a WORLD LEADER that will get American back into the  respectful country it is amongst other nations in this world. Not a PTA  mom who claims she can juggle 5 kids when in fact her nanny, chef,  driver/pilot, gardener and 20 other staffers take care of the Mom role  for her. I&#8217;m all for the &#8220;women can do the same if not better job than  men&#8221; ideal, but come on, she isn&#8217;t even up to par on her events and  history. When you can only make punch points and be a talking head,  that is NOT a leader. She can&#8217;t even name ONE supreme court decision  other than Row vs. Wade. And being able to see Russia from Alaska does  not qualify as foreign experience. We do not need and DO NOT want an  average Joe or Jane to be our president or vice president.</p><p>It is scary when our (by that I mean the republicans) expectations have sunk so low.</p><p>And it&#8217;s even more scary when people are voting for republican  SIMPLY because she&#8217;s pro-life, even for those women who were victims of  rape or incest would NOT get a choice. That alone, to me, is hugely  undermining the equality so many women have worked so hard for so many  years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-69">Sarah Palin Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://cashflowtipsbydon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Don S</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:54.</div><div><p>Maybe  the most appropriate question is . . . if Barack Obama is elected  president, whether or not John McCain dies, is he qualified to lead the  country?</p><p>Being a governor is a proven road to the White House. Alaska is a  strategic state. Let&#8217;s see: Clinton was from Arkansas &#8212; even less  strategic, Carter from Georgia and Reagan from California . . . Bush  from Texas . . . oh, sure, I saw a post on the Huffington Post this  week that said &#8220;Bush is intellectually challenged.&#8221; Of course, there  was no evidence to support the claim.</p><p>Obama is currently more likely to become president than Sarah Palin  and that&#8217;s something that should concern all clear-thinking Americans.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-67">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Bill Platt (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:45.</div><div><p>Deluded?  Although she has as much or more experience than Obama, you are willing  to suggest that my delusion is that she could not be President, but  Obama can be?</p><p>The only delusion is that Obama&#8217;s experience is greater than hers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-66">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:31.</div><div><p>Palin is absolutely not qualified &#8211; anyone who thinks so is deluded.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-65">Re: pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:29.</div><div><p>The point was she won&#8217;t take no crap.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-64">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:27.</div><div><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p><p>Then James they should do the same before becoming parents. Maybe  then we won&#8217;t have so many libetards. Bunch of whiners don&#8217;t know a  good thing when it slaps them upside the head.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-63">Re: Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:26.</div><div><p>As  a Vietnam veteran I can assure you that sad fact by itself (yeah, we  lost a war we had no business being in) does not qualify anyone to be  President. While I respect McCain&#8217;s service to his country McCain  himself has admitted that he collaborated with the enemy and signed  documents condemning America&#8217;s.bombing of Hanoi as being war crimes.</p><p>As at the time we were carpet bombing a densely populated Hanoi with  low level B-52 bombing runs, the North Vietnamese perhaps had a point  that a stressed out and in terrible pain McCain decided to agree with.</p><p>Not that I blame him. Fortunately, my POW camp experience was  limited to a combat training exercise at Camp Lejeune, N.C. It was only  for a very long day but that was enough to make brave grown men trained  for combat by battle hardened US Marines cry out in pain. McCain&#8217;s  experience had to be horrible and I&#8217;m sure that the scars, mental and  physical, must still be with him.</p><p>However, I wasn&#8217;t referring to McCain other than his grandstanding  poor judgement in selecting Governor Palin as his running mate. Sarah  may be a swell gal, certainly her down home nature appeals to a lot of  down home people across America, but please, qualified to perhaps have  to step into the President&#8217;s role?</p><p>She is a little league player suddenly thrown into the major  leagues. I admire her spunk but fear her aggressive claim that she is  ready to serve when she can&#8217;t even handle soft ball interviews. Who  wants a President just like an average Joe? In case you haven&#8217;t noticed  there are very complicated problems that America faces that will  require outstanding leadership to solve.</p><p>I&#8217;m not a big Obama fan either but at least the man has first class  intelligence and a first class temperament. He doesn&#8217;t tend to shoot  from the hip or fire, ready, aim like old fighter pilots are apt to do.  Palin was a choice designed to fire up the Republican Party&#8217;s  conservative base and in that the move was successful. But at what risk  to the country if McCain and Palin are elected?</p><p>With the odds being about one in four that a 72 year old cancer  survivor would not make it another four years a President Palin is a  frightening possibility.</p><p>That&#8217;s putting country first? Please! Give me a break.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-62">ldaught2  AHEM ! ! !</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:24.</div><div><p>ldaught2</p><p>AHEM ! ! !</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-61">Re: Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by ldaught2 (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:16.</div><div><p>//Until then, keep reading all the world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.//</p><p>Are you kidding?? what can a bias newspaper and magazine teach??  (and that would be all of them)That is the most idiot statement I have  read!</p><p>To answer the question&#8230;Could Palin be President?&#8230;yes yes and  yes&#8230;.The other 3 on the ticket was in the senate and HELPED drive  America where we are today! I dont care if Palin comes from a goat  farm, she could do better than this stinkin government!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-60">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:15.</div><div><p>Lady Coveted&#8230;.another woman that feels threatened by good looking successful women.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-59">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>James flew in from that alternate universe that Joe Biden lives in.   Maybe the Missouri Truth Squad can help him.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-58">pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://the-coveted.com/blog" rel="nofollow">lady coveted</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>being as putin&#8217;s no longer president of russia.</p><p>dmitri medvedev succeeded putin back in march, she&#8217;s so out of touch she&#8217;d probably miss that point too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-57">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:08.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s  competent all right. Competent enough to ban books at the public  library, books she has never even read. Competent enough to try to fire  a librarian who was just doing her job, Competent enough to veto sex  education for minors, (surprise there huh?), competent enough to fire  the head of the troopers who refused to fire her ex-brother in law for  unjustifiable reasons.</p><p>No wonder repugs love her so much, she&#8217;ll fit right in..*L*</p><p>At least Obama went through a process and garnered enough votes to  earn the right to be where he is today. Palin was handed the position  because McCain needed a quick fix and liked the way she looked and  talked.</p><p>Was she the most qualified and best suited republican for the job?  Of course not and people are not being genuine if they say yes. For  that reason McCain should and will lose this election.</p><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-56">Re: Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:54.</div><div><p>Palin would shove her pretty heels up Putin&#8217;s ass.  Then make him beg for more.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-55">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>Yes.  She would do a great job, because she has intelligence coupled with  common sense, grit, and good solid values. Would to God that this  country had had dozens of Presidents like her instead of some of the  buffoons we&#8217;ve suffered through.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-54">Re: People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>No he&#8217;ll bring them in from the hood.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-53">Shooting wolves from a Copter</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:50.</div><div><p>is  not the kind of Hunter i respect&#8230;..and margaret Thatcher is on her  way over their to whoop your ass for comparing her to Palin&#8230;.Thatcher  was one of the most intelligent and tough politicians in modern  times&#8230;.Palin doesn&#8217;t have a college education and she can&#8217;t even  stand up to KATIE M*^#ATHERF%*#KING COURIC&#8230;.stop comparing her to  Thatcher</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-52">People Around You</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>Obama  will have the flag stomper and terrorist, Dick Ayres and the God D@*$  America Reverend Wright. Both these gentlemen have doctorates!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-51">People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>it  is very important who the president brings into their admin&#8230;..I&#8217;m  certain Obama isn&#8217;t going to fill his cabinet from his high school  yearbook like little miss Palin</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-50">Obama Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>A one-term governor who is the most popular governor in the country.</p><p>Of course, that&#8217;s one more term than former &#8220;community organizer&#8221; and one-term senator.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-49">Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>Obviously  you haven&#8217;t seen Sarah Palin in the real world, she hunts guts and eats  things that get in her way, I would imagine you are the type of idiot  that thought Margaret Thatcher was a bad choice too&#8230;.Russia would beg  for forgiveness from Palin and Putin would be licking Sarah&#8217;s boots in  red square&#8230;.</p><p>Moron.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-48">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mrclm.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chris Meirose</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:45.</div><div><p>More  competent than Al Gore. More competent than Dick Cheney. More competent  than Dan Quayle. Palin would do just fine. Being president is as much  or more about who you have around you than anything else. You must be  able to make tough decisions, and know what you believe in, but at the  end of the day the experts you surround yourself with as President will  make or break your term in the modern context.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.pullinsreport.com" rel="nofollow">Scott Pullins</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s clearly not competent.</p><p><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-46">Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>russia  calls us a bunch of homos, and Putin slams his shoe on the desk?  &#8230;&#8230;if Palin were president Putin would literally rape her mouth on  live telivision then claim he thought she was the &#8220;entertainment&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-45">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:42.</div><div><p>The  answer is YES, she has run something, SHE has more experience RUNNING a  government than ANY of the candidates&#8230; So yes she is Qualified.</p><p>Obama isn&#8217;t qualified to be elected dog catcher, McCain at least has  the experience in dealing with hostile forces, and for you libtards  there still are hostile forces at work oh and they are hoping for Obama  too&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-44">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:41.</div><div><p>I  didn&#8217;t say NO degree. I said not an &#8220;Ivy League Degree&#8221;. I was just  giving my opinion &#8211; &#8220;If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would  Sarah Palin be competent to be President?&#8221; My answer is yes.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-43">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Matt Jones (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:40.</div><div><p>Clinton&#8217;s  budget experience was a budget of Arkansas which was smaller than  cuyahoga county. Obama has ZERO budget experience. She can manage a  budget. She communicates and articulates the GOP positions more  effectively than McCain, Bush, Cheney and Dole to name some powerful  people.</p><p>go to Canada you commie bastages!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-42">Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:39.</div><div><p>and  an Obama/Biden victory will make us look like a bunch of pansies&#8230;I  would love for you to explain how a war veteran that went through what  McCain did would cause the world to look at us as a laughing stock? Mrs  Thatcher was looked at a little off by the owrkd but she did fine? is  it you are scared of women or hunting women?</p><p>Palin is the only candidate in the race I would vote for president  and be happy about it. I will vote McCain just to get Sarah Palin  closer to the Big Job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-41">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>The US is going to hell because McCain&#8217;s buddy George Bush set us on that course.  4 more years of that?</p><p>BTW, the question was if McCain kicks, is Palin qualified?  And the answer is no.</p><p>Instead of attacking Obama, how about telling why you think Palin is  qualified? Is it because even you know she isn&#8217;t? Typical Republican.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>All  those &#8220;economic experts&#8221; have great post-grad degrees from high end  schools. Hopefully, that will help them as they look for a new job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-39">Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:34.</div><div><p>Palin  makes a big deal about her &#8220;six pack joe&#8221; ways and seems to be proud of  her ignorance. We have had almost eight years of a largely  disinterested in the world at large President and see where that has  taken us. American is on a slippery downward slope and it will be  difficult to avoid a hard crash and burn landing.</p><p>I for one don&#8217;t want someone as VP, who may well end up being  President, who is just another six pack Joe yahoo. America is the  laughing stock of the world just to have such a yahoo candidate.</p><p>If McCain and Palin are somehow elected American&#8217;s standing in the  world as a world leader, much less a super power, will be further  reduced to the vanishing point. We would be looked upon as a nation of  village idiots.</p><p>It&#8217;s not that I love Obama. Come to think of it with the choice down  to Obama or McCain perhaps we American have found the perfect means to  self destruct. The support given by McCain and Obama for the $700  billion bailout bill (before another $100 billion or so in pure pork  was added) is another giant step in that direction.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-38">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:33.</div><div><p>&#8220;You  idiots care more about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the  stars and stripes. You get what you deserve.&#8221; The truest statement  since Reagan stated the most scary thing ever was &#8220;I&#8217;m from the  government and I&#8217;m here to help&#8221;</p><p>I wouldnt be so dead set against OBAMA if he were more Country  first, rather than Blame everyone else&#8230; HIS party has led congress  for the last 2 years and we have gone from solvency to bankruptcy and  BOTH parties are to blame, ONLY one party is used to responsibility,  the other is used to &#8220;Tolerance&#8221; and forgiveness of their own&#8230;.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-37">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:31.</div><div><p>you  mean like the modern day general who doesn&#8217;t have a college degree? are  we suddenly recruiting presidents from third world countries? because  EVERY American General has a college degree&#8230;&#8230;lets not pretend we  live in the world of 2 centuries ago</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-36">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Nothing  like partisanship. That&#8217;s right put the party before the country. No  wonder the US is going to hell in a rocketship. You idiots care more  about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the stars and stripes.  You get what you deserve.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-35">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Oh  and I&#8217;m qualified because I am a black community organizer.. Don&#8217;t look  at the communities I organized or anything, just trust me for CHANGE&#8230;  BS, it is highway strong arm robbery, ACORN? Rev Wright? Ayers?  Phlegar? Farakhan? Ok Palin has what? A couple of LIES perpetrated by  the elitist media that have been debunked. Yeah Obama in 08 and the end  of our nation in 09&#8230;.good plan.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-34">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://experiencecurve.com" rel="nofollow">Karl</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:27.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  ironic that if you guys had listened to Carter in the 70&#8242;s you would  not be as f**cked as you are now and you would probably have energy  independence.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-33">Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:24.</div><div><p>Say  what you want about Obama, he&#8217;ll make a much better President than  either &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I can see Russia from my pooper, yah, you  betcha&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I was a POW a million years ago,  wait, what was the question again?&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-32">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>Palin  Derangement Syndrome is alive and well as the media blitzkrieg is  desperate to discredit the Palin/McCain presidential ticket.</p><p>Palin handily beat Biden down last night, and that causes severe swelling in the liberal frontal lobe.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-31">Competent&#8230;OBama?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>So  you say go back home hockey mom&#8230; Wow&#8230; your complete lack of what a  hockey mom is.. basically a communtity leader&#8230;hmmm Let&#8217;s see Omaa is  just that, he has not been a Governer, worked a state budger.. .his  short political careeer shows less tenure that Palin. Fair is Fair ,  your last paragraph shows your compete ignorance,,, go read a bit  yourself!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-30">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>You mean like George Washington?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-29">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://republicaninthearts.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Incognito</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:14.</div><div><p>and  how about looking at it this way&#8230; with all Biden&#8217;s asinine gaffes  would people be thrilled to have him as president, if Obama were to  die? I&#8217;d be much happier with a Palin presidency than either an Obama  or Biden presidency.</p><p>She&#8217;s done very well for Alaska&#8230;thank you very much.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-28">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.golfblogger.com" rel="nofollow">GolfBlogger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:10.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  not saying much, but I think Palin&#8217;s more qualified than Obama. The  problem is that if you vote Republican, an unqualified person MIGHT  become president. If you vote Democrat, an unqualified person WILL  become president.</p><p>The only logical ticket is Biden-McCain &#8212; one which, during the primaries, Joe Biden said he wouldn&#8217;t mind.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-27">Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:09.</div><div><p>you  would not make a good president nor would anyone who doesn&#8217;t have an  University Degree&#8230;..watch that sassy little Katie Couric if you want  to know why Sara Palin is completely incompetent</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-26">What the&#8230;?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.soldiersperspective.us" rel="nofollow">CJ Grisham</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:07.</div><div><p>If Palin isn&#8217;t competent enough to be President, then Obama is even LESS competent to hold the position!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-25">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:03.</div><div><p>Why  won&#8217;t Sara Palin be a competent President? Is there anything about  Obama that makes him more intelligent than Palin? It offends me as a  person to think differently. I believe she would do as well, if not  better, than any other of the men or women who have made a run during  this election.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t go to an ivy league college. I haven&#8217;t served as a PTO  chairperson or any other office but I think I would make a darn good  president. I&#8217;m excited to think that maybe we might have something  fresh in the office. From Hillary to McCain it is the same old same old.</p><p>Margaret</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-24">experience or education ?</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:57.</div><div><p>While  one could argue all day long about the experience factor between Obama  and Palin, one can&#8217;t argue much about the difference in education. I  would rather have someone educated in the highest office of the land.</p><p>Thanks, but no thanks for that sweet talkin&#8217;, well read gal from Alaska.</p><p>Don&#8217;t YA know?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-23">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:55.</div><div><p>I  am voting for McCain/Palin for precisely that reason, I would be WAY  more happy with Palin as President than I will be with McCain.<br
/> If Obama wins we ALL lose&#8230;.Oh and a preemptive dismiss to those that  say it&#8217;s because he is black&#8230;Its not because he is black its because  he is a communist/socialist libtard baby killing gun taking no  leadership other than &#8220;ACORN&#8221; type skills&#8230;. but vote how you want, I  cant wait till you liberal idiots get what you want, just like after  Carter, you came crying to the Conservatives to save you, Obama is a  black Carter maybe worse.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-22">NFW</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://twww.mahamatzav.org" rel="nofollow">rebaaron</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:54.</div><div><p>Sarah  Palin is a poser. She&#8217;s so enamored with Ronald Reagan I believe, in  part, because she&#8217;s just like him &#8211; an actor. Reagan wasn&#8217;t a president  as much as he was able to act like a president. The VP debates last  night showed this &#8211; Palin is all show and no substance. What&#8217;s really  scary is she believes that she&#8217;s capable. I think she really has no  idea and is not capable of getting it. I think some call this  sociopathic tendencies?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-21">Palin Did Better Than Expected</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Atheist Jew</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>She proved to me that she doesn&#8217;t have an IQ of 75.  It is more like 90 or 95.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-20">National Level Experience (NLE)</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>Palin  is an order of magnitude more Podunk than any national political figure  in modern times. Case in point, 6 months ago, Palin said, flat out, she  is not INTERESTED in national policy, as in she doesn&#8217;t have the time  or will to keep up with what is going on in this country&#8230;when you use  NLE as the measure Obama is far ahead of Palin, exemplified by the fact  that the very first thing he did in the Senate was get a law passed to  help secure &#8220;loose nukes&#8221; in the former USSR&#8230;.compare that to Palin  who apparently could not even pass a seventh grade civics test (doesn&#8217;t  know any supreme court cases besides Roe v. Wade?)</p><p>All the PAlin supporters are the same , pardon my french, IDIOTS who  supported GW because he&#8217;s a guy they can drink a beer with&#8230;..Palin  sure is a regular joe&#8230;Joe Retard that is</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-19">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by brad (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>If  something happened to McCain on day one would Palin be ready? No, BUT  what makes you think Obama is? Lets talk about the TOP of the ticket.  Give me a break!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-18">And Barack is Qualified? </a></div><div> Submitted by J (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 14:33.</div><div><p>I  love how people point out how Palin&#8217;s not qualified SHOULD something  happen to McCain. And what makes Barack qualified? He&#8217;s been in the  Senate for 2 years? And if he is elected, he&#8217;s it. At least with  McCain, we&#8217;re electing a very seasoned and proven person who has a  pretty good track record for change. Obama can talk about change but he  hasn&#8217;t walked it at all.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-17">Re: Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:32.</div><div><p>Source please.  Media previously said superficial Basal cell.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-16">Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:15.</div><div><p>He has had MELANOMA. The deadliest form of skin cancer</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-15">Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by rusmayse on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 00:48.</div><div><p>Poor  Palin. I commend her on the acceptance of such a difficult position in  such a tough time. It takes a really strong person to take on the role  she has. And I do agree with the fact that she may &#8220;catch on quickly&#8221;.  I&#8217;m just particularly concerned and unsure she has any idea what she is  doing. Period.<br
/> Go back home hockey mom. Gain experience over the next 8 years. Become  more involved on a national level. Listen to the cries of us people.  And then please, come back again :) Until then, keep reading all the  world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-14"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-14">Not as a woman, or a man</a></div><div> Submitted by TomCollins2100 on Thu, 10/02/2008 &#8211; 23:33.</div><div><p>Are  you kidding? The notion that she&#8217;s being unfairly judged as unqualified  because she&#8217;s a woman is absurd. If she were a man, McCain would have  been laughed out of the country for picking a first-term governor with  no other applicable experience and zero national &#8211; let alone foreign  policy &#8211; qualifications.</p><p>Women with any brains at all should be insulted that McCain and the  Republicans think that they will vote for any woman they offer, or  belive this particular woman is remotely qualified to run any country,  forget about the United States.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-13">RELEASE THE MEDICAL RECORDS</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 16:02.</div><div><p>what  you say is partially true, superficial skin cancers are not fatal,  especially with decent healthcare, but WE DON&#8217;T KNOW THE EXTENT OF  MCCAIN&#8221;S CANCER because he won&#8217;t release ALL of his medical  records&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t sit here and defend him against this criticism, when  his campaign could put this completely to bed with a single phone call  to his doctor.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-12"> Palin needs to read a American History Booko</a></div><div> Submitted by pat baker (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  sick of McCain calling Obama a on the job learner, community action  worker. Palin is is a affrimative action herself. Mrs Bush said she was  a &#8220;quick learner&#8221; Do I need a vp who is a quick learner? She&#8217;s just a  Gov for a few years, no national experience. She can&#8217;t answer straight  question. These photo opts with people from the MiddleEast aren&#8217;t  getting on my nerves, they are making me sick Who cares if she&#8217;s cute  while my 401 K might go down the tubes!. Hillary Clinton would run  rings around her. I don&#8217;t need a &#8221; on the job VP during these troubled  times..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-11">McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Omar Hamada</a> (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:33.</div><div><p>Enough  of the cancer stuff!!! Talk about spin and/or ignorance! When&#8217;s the  last time someone actually died from superficial squamous or basal cell  skin cancer? Answer: NEVER. Now if it were actually melanoma or other  types of invasive squamous cell cancer, then it would be a different  story &#8211; BUT IT&#8217;S NOT!!!!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-9">but seriously, she reads ALL the newspapers</a></div><div> Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:55.</div><div><p>Check  out her interview with Katie Couric. She shares that she reads ALL the  newspapers in the world. She must be really freakin smart. She also  graduated from the University of Idaho. I mean it doesnt get much more  prestigious than that. And besides, who is Biden to talk.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-8">Don&#8217;t Fret</a></div><div> Submitted by Chris A (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:48.</div><div><p>Don&#8217;t  worry about Palin. If you saw her interviews, you would know that  the&#8230; War in Iraq and reforms to our economy and importance in the  field of green energy under the umbrella of job creation and then  health care.<br
/> She knows what everyone needs&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-7">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:45.</div><div><p>uh hu &#8230;..uh hu !!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-6">come on,  hes only had cancer</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 09/30/2008 &#8211; 22:59.</div><div><p>come on,  hes only had cancer 3 times. plus,  its not like hes old or anything</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Markets are conversations. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Markets consist of human beings, not demographic sectors. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Conversations among human beings <em>sound</em> human. They are conducted in a human voice. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Whether delivering information, opinions, perspectives, dissenting arguments or humorous asides, the human voice is typically open, natural, uncontrived. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> People recognize each other as such from the sound of this voice. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> The Internet is enabling conversations among human beings that were simply not possible in the era of mass media. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Hyperlinks subvert hierarchy. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> In both <em>inter</em>networked markets and among <em>intra</em>networked employees, people are speaking to each other in a powerful new way. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> These networked conversations are enabling powerful new forms of social organization and knowledge exchange to emerge. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> As a result, markets are getting smarter, more informed, more organized. Participation in a networked market changes people fundamentally. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> People in networked markets have figured out that they get far better information and support from one another than from vendors. So much for corporate rhetoric about adding value to commoditized products. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> There are no secrets. The networked market knows more than companies do about their own products. And whether the news is good or bad, they tell everyone. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> What&#8217;s happening to markets is also happening among employees. A metaphysical construct called &#8220;The Company&#8221; is the only thing standing between the two. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Corporations do not speak in the same voice as these new networked conversations. To their intended online audiences, companies sound hollow, flat, literally inhuman. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> In just a few more years, the current homogenized &#8220;voice&#8221; of business—the sound of mission statements and brochures—will seem as contrived and artificial as the language of the 18th century French court. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Already, companies that speak in the language of the pitch, the dog-and-pony show, are no longer speaking to anyone. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies that assume online markets are the same markets that used to watch their ads on television are kidding themselves. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies that don&#8217;t realize their markets are now networked person-to-person, getting smarter as a result and deeply joined in conversation are missing their best opportunity. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies can now communicate with their markets directly. If they blow it, it could be their last chance. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies need to realize their markets are often laughing. At them. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies need to lighten up and take themselves less seriously. They need to get a sense of humor. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Getting a sense of humor does not mean putting some jokes on the corporate web site. Rather, it requires big values, a little humility, straight talk, and a genuine point of view. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies attempting to &#8220;position&#8221; themselves need to <em>take</em> a position. Optimally, it should relate to something their market actually cares about. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Bombastic boasts—&#8221;We are positioned to become the preeminent provider of XYZ&#8221;—do not constitute a position. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies need to come down from their Ivory Towers and talk to the people with whom they hope to create relationships. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Public Relations does not relate to the public. Companies are deeply afraid of their markets. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> By speaking in language that is distant, uninviting, arrogant, they build walls to keep markets at bay. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Most marketing programs are based on the fear that the market might see what&#8217;s really going on inside the company. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Elvis said it best: &#8220;We can&#8217;t go on together with suspicious minds.&#8221; </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Brand loyalty is the corporate version of going steady, but the breakup is inevitable—and coming fast. Because they are networked, smart markets are able to renegotiate relationships with blinding speed. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Networked markets can change suppliers overnight. Networked knowledge workers can change employers over lunch. Your own &#8220;downsizing initiatives&#8221; taught us to ask the question: &#8220;Loyalty? What&#8217;s that?&#8221; </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Smart markets will find suppliers who speak their own language. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Learning to speak with a human voice is not a parlor trick. It can&#8217;t be &#8220;picked up&#8221; at some tony conference. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> To speak with a human voice, companies must share the concerns of their communities. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> But first, they must belong to a community. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies must ask themselves where their corporate cultures end. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> If their cultures end before the community begins, they will have no market. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Human communities are based on discourse—on human speech about human concerns. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> The community of discourse <em>is</em> the market. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies that do not belong to a community of discourse will die. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies make a religion of security, but this is largely a red herring. Most are protecting less against competitors than against their own market and workforce. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> As with networked markets, people are also talking to each other directly <em>inside</em> the company—and not just about rules and regulations, boardroom directives, bottom lines. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Such conversations are taking place today on corporate intranets. But only when the conditions are right. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies typically install intranets top-down to distribute HR policies and other corporate information that workers are doing their best to ignore. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Intranets naturally tend to route around boredom. The best are built bottom-up by engaged individuals cooperating to construct something far more valuable: an intranetworked corporate conversation. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> A healthy intranet <em>organizes</em> workers in many meanings of the word. Its effect is more radical than the agenda of any union. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> While this scares companies witless, they also depend heavily on open intranets to generate and share critical knowledge. They need to resist the urge to &#8220;improve&#8221; or control these networked conversations. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> When corporate intranets are not constrained by fear and legalistic rules, the type of conversation they encourage sounds remarkably like the conversation of the networked marketplace. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Org charts worked in an older economy where plans could be fully understood from atop steep management pyramids and detailed work orders could be handed down from on high. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Today, the org chart is hyperlinked, not hierarchical. Respect for hands-on knowledge wins over respect for abstract authority. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Command-and-control management styles both derive from and reinforce bureaucracy, power tripping and an overall culture of paranoia. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Paranoia kills conversation. That&#8217;s its point. But lack of open conversation kills companies. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> There are two conversations going on. One inside the company. One with the market. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> In most cases, neither conversation is going very well. Almost invariably, the cause of failure can be traced to obsolete notions of command and control. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> As policy, these notions are poisonous. As tools, they are broken. Command and control are met with hostility by intranetworked knowledge workers and generate distrust in internetworked markets. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> These two conversations want to talk to <em>each other.</em> They are speaking the same language. They recognize each other&#8217;s voices. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Smart companies will get out of the way and help the inevitable to happen sooner. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> If willingness to get out of the way is taken as a measure of IQ, then very few companies have yet wised up. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> However subliminally at the moment, millions of people now online perceive companies as little more than quaint legal fictions that are actively preventing these conversations from intersecting. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> This is suicidal. Markets <em>want</em> to talk to companies. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Sadly, the part of the company a networked market wants to talk to is usually hidden behind a smokescreen of hucksterism, of language that rings false—and often is. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Markets do not want to talk to flacks and hucksters. They want to participate in the conversations going on behind the corporate firewall. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> De-cloaking, getting personal: We <em>are</em> those markets. We want to talk to <em>you.</em> </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We want access to your corporate information, to your plans and strategies, your best thinking, your genuine knowledge. We will not settle for the 4-color brochure, for web sites chock-a-block with eye candy but lacking any substance. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We&#8217;re also the workers who make your companies go. We want to talk to customers directly in our own voices, not in platitudes written into a script. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> As markets, as workers, both of us are sick to death of getting our information by remote control. Why do we need faceless annual reports and third-hand market research studies to introduce us to each other? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> As markets, as workers, we wonder why you&#8217;re not listening. You seem to be speaking a different language. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> The inflated self-important jargon you sling around—in the press, at your conferences—what&#8217;s that got to do with us? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Maybe you&#8217;re impressing your investors. Maybe you&#8217;re impressing Wall Street. You&#8217;re not impressing us. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> If you don&#8217;t impress us, your investors are going to take a bath. Don&#8217;t they understand this? If they did, they wouldn&#8217;t <em>let</em> you talk that way. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Your tired notions of &#8220;the market&#8221; make our eyes glaze over. We don&#8217;t recognize ourselves in your projections—perhaps because we know we&#8217;re already elsewhere. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We like this new marketplace much better. In fact, we are creating it. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> You&#8217;re invited, but it&#8217;s our world. Take your shoes off at the door. If you want to barter with us, get down off that camel! </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> <a
title="immune" name="immune"></a>We are immune to advertising. Just forget it. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> If you want us to talk to you, tell us something. Make it something interesting for a change. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We&#8217;ve got some ideas for you too: some new tools we need, some better service. Stuff we&#8217;d be willing to pay for. Got a minute? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> You&#8217;re too busy &#8220;doing business&#8221; to answer our email? Oh gosh, sorry, gee, we&#8217;ll come back later. Maybe. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> You want us to pay? We want you to pay attention. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We want you to drop your trip, come out of your neurotic self-involvement, join the party. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Don&#8217;t worry, you can still make money. That is, as long as it&#8217;s not the only thing on your mind. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Have you noticed that, in itself, money is kind of one-dimensional and boring? What else can we talk about? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Your product broke. Why? We&#8217;d like to ask the guy who made it. Your corporate strategy makes no sense. We&#8217;d like to have a chat with your CEO. What do you mean she&#8217;s not in? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We want you to take 50 million of us as seriously as you take one reporter from <em>The Wall Street Journal.</em> </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We know some people from your company. They&#8217;re pretty cool online. Do you have any more like that you&#8217;re hiding? Can they come out and play? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> When we have questions we turn to each other for answers. If you didn&#8217;t have such a tight rein on &#8220;your people&#8221; maybe they&#8217;d be among the people we&#8217;d turn to. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> When we&#8217;re not busy being your &#8220;target market,&#8221; many of us <em>are</em> your people. We&#8217;d rather be talking to friends online than watching the clock. That would get your name around better than your entire million dollar web site. But you tell us speaking to the market is Marketing&#8217;s job. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We&#8217;d like it if you got what&#8217;s going on here. That&#8217;d be real nice. But it would be a big mistake to think we&#8217;re holding our breath. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We have better things to do than worry about whether you&#8217;ll change in time to get our business. Business is only a part of our lives. It seems to be all of yours. Think about it: who needs whom? </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We have real power and we know it. If you don&#8217;t quite see the light, some other outfit will come along that&#8217;s more attentive, more interesting, more fun to play with. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Even at its worst, our newfound conversation is more interesting than most trade shows, more entertaining than any TV sitcom, and certainly more true-to-life than the corporate web sites we&#8217;ve been seeing. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Our allegiance is to ourselves—our friends, our new allies and acquaintances, even our sparring partners. Companies that have no part in this world, also have no future. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> Companies are spending billions of dollars on Y2K. Why can&#8217;t they hear this market timebomb ticking? The stakes are even higher. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We&#8217;re both inside companies and outside them. The boundaries that separate our conversations look like the Berlin Wall today, but they&#8217;re really just an annoyance. We know they&#8217;re coming down. We&#8217;re going to work from both sides to <em>take</em> them down. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> To traditional corporations, networked conversations may appear confused, may sound confusing. But we are organizing faster than they are. We have better tools, more new ideas, no rules to slow us down. </font></strong></li><li><strong><font
color="BLACK" size="-1" face="Verdana"> We are waking up and linking to each other. We are watching. But we are not waiting. </font></strong></li><p></font></ol><p>Always remember! Never forget! If you&#8217;re in marketing or public relations and you have not read The Cluetrain Manifesto, it is about time &#8212; <a
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/> [Long pause]<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.<br
/> <strong>President &#8220;Bobby&#8221;</strong>: In the garden.<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.<br
/> <strong>President &#8220;Bobby&#8221;</strong>: Spring and summer.<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: Yes.<br
/> <strong>President &#8220;Bobby&#8221;</strong>: Then fall and winter.<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: Yes.<br
/> <strong>Benjamin Rand</strong>: I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we&#8217;re upset by the seasons of our economy.<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: Yes! There will be growth in the spring!<br
/> <strong>Benjamin Rand</strong>: Hmm!<br
/> <strong>Chance the Gardener</strong>: Hmm!<br
/> <strong>President &#8220;Bobby&#8221;</strong>: Hm. Well, Mr. Gardner, I must admit that is one of the most refreshing and optimistic statements I&#8217;ve heard in a very, very long time.<br
/> <em>[Benjamin Rand applauds]<br
/> </em><strong>President &#8220;Bobby&#8221;</strong>: I admire your good, solid sense. That&#8217;s precisely what we lack on Capitol Hill.</p><p>[Via <a
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href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2026">Climate Solutions: Charting a Bold Course A cap-and-trade system is not the answer, according to a leading alternative-energy advocate. To really tackle climate change, the U.S. must revolutionize its entire energy strategy.</a></p><blockquote><h4><a
href="http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2026">Opinion: Climate Solutions: Charting a Bold Course</a></h4><p><em>A cap-and-trade system is not the answer, according to a leading alternative-energy advocate. To really tackle climate change, the U.S. must revolutionize its entire energy strategy.</em></p><p><span
class="author">by Denis Hayes</span></p><p>More than 30 years ago, President Jimmy Carter called for a daring transition to a new energy future, an effort he likened to “the moral equivalent of war.” But the hard truth is that the United States is in far worse shape in the energy realm today than it was when Carter left office.</p><p>Since 1981, annual greenhouse gas emissions have grown from 4.7 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide to 5.9 billion metric tons. America imported 1.6 billion barrels of oil in 1981; by 2007 imports had ballooned to 3.7 billion barrels. Today, oil prices have surged past $130 per barrel, and the best evidence suggests that total global oil production is at or nearing its peak. Under President Carter, America dominated the world in renewable energy research, development, and commercialization, but in the ensuing decades our federal government has thrown away that lead.</p><p>With the economy now staggering from its addiction to oil, and with evidence of global warming having persuaded all but the knuckle-draggers, is America at last getting serious about freeing itself from carbon fuels?</p><p>Actually, no. Most environmentally sensitive politicians and even many national green groups are remarkably blithe that the Lieberman-Warner bill — a 500-page cap-and-trade law filled with more holes than a Madonna dance outfit — will take us there.</p><p>The tragedy is that we still have a chance to solve the global warming crisis, but we are blowing it by chasing false hopes in the form of an inadequate cap-and-trade bill.</p><p>Acting fast enough and on a large enough scale to avoid unthinkable climate consequences will require a more ambitious effort than the New Deal, the Interstate Highway System, and the Manhattan Project, all rolled into one. Serious efforts to stabilize the world’s climate will have dramatic consequences for industry, transportation, architecture, agriculture, leisure, and consumerism, and so, many of these changes will be fought tooth and nail — as was evident last week when Republican Senators attacked and derailed the Lieberman-Warner bill, forcing Democratic leaders to place the initiative on hold until a new president takes office.</p><p>The truth is that all our largest current energy sources will need to be replaced by new sources — over the ferocious opposition of the powerful companies that market them.</p><p>The story of how we got into this crunch is a tale of political opportunism and shortsightedness. For had America continued on the course we’d embarked upon in the mid-1970s, the task ahead would now be much less expensive, much less painful, and much more certain of success.</p><p>In 1979, after the Arab oil embargo, Carter announced that by the year 2000 America was to get at least one-fifth of all its energy from renewable sources — mainly solar energy, wind, and biofuels. The Solar Energy Research Institute, which I then served as director, was at the heart of this effort. Leading a team of scientists and analysts drawn from national labs and major universities, SERI prepared the detailed technical and policy blueprint to meet or surpass the 20 percent goal.</p><p>In 1981, halfway through his first year in office, President Ronald Reagan abandoned the 20 percent goal, reduced SERI’s $125 million budget by $100 million, and installed a dentist named Jim Edwards as Secretary of Energy. To demonstrate his contempt for the notion of alternative energy, Reagan ordered the solar water heaters ripped off the White House roof. We’ve never recovered.</p><p>The successive administrations of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, bobbing along on a sea of cheap oil, did little to shift America’s economy to renewable energy sources. And for the past seven years, the United States has been led by a president who projects such a breathtaking marriage of arrogance and incompetence that his refusal to even acknowledge the reality of climate change has not generally been considered one of his more glaring flaws.</p><p>As climate science has grown increasingly clear, many corporate CEOs have become convinced that global warming has a human signature. The brightest CEOs of Fortune 100 companies realized that once the Democrats took back control of Congress, it would be only a matter of time before climate legislation was enacted. The next president, whoever it is, will demand action. These CEOs all wanted to be at the table — in Washington, if you aren’t at the table, you’re likely to wind up on the menu.</p><p>Environmental groups soon found themselves being courted by business leaders who recognized that the climate threat would require a serious national response. They formed the <a
href="http://www.us-cap.org/" target="_blank">U.S. Climate Action Partnership</a> and other alliances that offered benefits for environmentalists but also entailed subtle costs. The most obvious benefit was that environmental leaders are taken more seriously on Capitol Hill when they arrive linking arms with the CEOs of General Electric, Caterpillar, DuPont, and General Motors.</p><p>The cost was the natural downside of consensus building: Policies cannot significantly harm the core interests of any of the participants. When the participants include the world’s largest automobile company, the largest manufacturer of jet engines, the largest maker of mining equipment for coal and bituminous sands, etc., this is not an insignificant cost.</p><p>What emerged from this unexpected alliance was a consensus that the centerpiece of climate policy should be a cap on CO<sub>2</sub>, generally applied as close to the point of emission as realistically possible. Additionally, there was widespread agreement that (a) between 25 percent and 80 percent of all emissions permits should be given away to major emitters for a transitional period; (b) the law should provide ample “offsets” available for purchase by companies failing to meet reduction targets; and (c) “safety valves” should permit relaxed enforcement in case greenhouse gas reductions cause temporary economic hardship.</p><p>Unfortunately, these are genuinely terrible ideas. They are not bad because they lack ambition; rather, they are bad because they move boldly in the wrong direction. They don’t merely ignore the way that the global economy responds to real-world policies; they ignore everything we have learned about human nature since Rousseau’s belief in humanity’s innate goodness crashed on the shoals of 18th-century reality.</p><p>So what should a serious energy and climate policy look like?</p><h3>Carbon Must be Capped Where It Enters the Economy, Not Where It Leaves It</h3><p>The backbone of any comprehensive policy to limit greenhouse gas emissions must cap carbon at the places — coal mines, oil fields, pipelines, ports — where it enters the economy. Instead, at the behest of corporate behemoths and their green enablers, our political leaders are focusing most of their attention on smokestacks, and when that is obviously impossible (e.g. with gasoline or propane) on refiners or distributors. They want to cap CO<sub>2</sub> where it enters the atmosphere — an approach that is guaranteed to fail because there are far too many point sources.</p><p>Europe has already attempted a cap-and-trade program, and it belly-flopped. Senators Warner and Lieberman, who should be applauded for at least acknowledging that global warming is a problem, failed to absorb some important lessons from Europe, including:</p><ul><li>The most important part of cap-and-trade is the “cap.” Any successful law must place an impermeable lid on the amount of carbon that enters the atmosphere. To whatever extent additional trees or windmills are used to “offset” additional carbon-based fuels, the exercise is self-defeating.</li><li>In contrast to regulating a sea of smokestacks, the best course is to require carbon permits at the 2,000 sources where carbon enters the economy. It would be simple, straightforward, and impossible to “game.” It is vastly more effective than trying to police carbon dioxide wherever carbon is burned. In setting the number of carbon permits issued — and thus determining how much coal, oil, and gas can enter the economy — the government would be setting an absolute, easily-enforced cap on emissions.</li><li>All carbon permits should be auctioned — not given away. In Europe, permits were given away to large carbon users to ease their transition to the new regime. Major polluters made cheap improvements, lowered their emissions, and sold their unneeded permits. This gave windfalls to the worst polluters, penalized companies that had already invested in efficient new factories and renewable energy, and helped guarantee that Europe would miss its Kyoto targets.Auctioning 100 percent of all carbon permits is fair and transparent; it eliminates backroom special-interest pleadings. By reducing the number of permits auctioned each year, the government can guarantee that its emissions targets are met.</li></ul><h3>Use Auction Revenues Intelligently</h3><p>The most vital use for most of the revenues would be to serve such climate-related public purposes as building the infrastructure needed for a national “smart grid” for electricity and for high-speed electrified railroads, assuring large federal markets for the sunrise industries of the post-carbon economy, and finding ways to accelerate the solution of the climate problem through huge boosts in federal support for basic research. However, a portion of the revenues should compensate for the regressive nature of what is effectively a carbon tax, perhaps by using them to meet the shortfalls facing Medicare and Social Security and helping to underwrite training for green-collar jobs.</p><h3>Promote Renewable Energy</h3><p>Government has a long tradition of helping sunrise industries supplant their well-entrenched predecessors. Canals were encouraged as more efficient than horses. Railroads were viewed as a way to open the west. The interstate highway system replaced many of the functions performed by railroads.</p><p>Some renewable energy sources would benefit greatly from a focused, long-term federal commitment to R&amp;D. Others are already poised to ride learning curves to lower prices through economies of mass production — but require guaranteed markets to elicit the necessary investment. (Computer chips went from being high-priced luxuries to cheap-as-dirt commodities only because the Air Force and NASA bought them in bulk until their prices fell to a level where the private market took over.)</p><p>The federal government should be buying photovoltaic devices in bulk and installing them on all federal buildings, military bases, and the backs of billboards, and pouring the power into the grid. The goal should be to grow the market in a rapid yet predictable way linked to constantly lower prices. The start-and-stop unpredictability of renewable energy tax credits over the last 30 years has severely undermined the wind and solar industries, and placed American companies at a huge disadvantage with foreign competitors. As recently as 1998, America was the world’s largest manufacturer of solar photovoltaics — a technology that was invented here. But Japan, with a long-term strategy, sped past the U.S. the following year. A few years later, led by Germany, much of Europe implemented tariffs that vaulted the solar field into hyperdrive. If current trends continue, annual global photovoltaic production by 2011 will be a stunning 30 gigawatts, of which the U.S. will contribute perhaps 4 percent.</p><h3>Construct a Resilient Nationwide Smart Grid to Take Power from Anywhere to Anywhere</h3><p>The arguments for a national smart grid are legion; the arguments against it don’t hold water. Many carbon-neutral renewable energy sources are intermittent or diurnal, and the best locations both for sources (sunlight, wind, geothermal) and for storage are widely dispersed. We need to be able to knit the nation together. Only the government can assemble the corridor rights to make such a development possible.</p><h3>Get Serious about Automobile Mileage</h3><p>In World War II — without Representative John Dingell Jr. to protect it from reality — Detroit was ordered to stop making cars and start making tanks. Today, Detroit needs to be ordered to stop making civilian tanks and start making cars. Manufacturers should be free to use any technology that can get 50 mpg by 2020 and 100 mpg by 2030. The world cannot afford yet another abysmal failure by the once-proud American automobile industry.</p><h3>Build High-Speed Electrified Railways for Our Busiest Corridors</h3><p>The answer to every intercity travel need is not an airplane or a car. America is the only industrial power on earth without high-speed electrified rail — a super-efficient mode of intercity travel that can be carbon-free. I don’t know a single American who has traveled on the bullet train from Tokyo to Osaka who hasn’t wondered, “Why can’t we do that from Boston to Washington? From San Francisco to LA?” It would require the same sort of government effort that built the interstate highway system — or, for that matter, the original railroads.</p><h3>Set Strong Building Energy Performance Standards</h3><p>We need to make all new buildings carbon-neutral by 2030, requiring vast increases in efficiency and walls and roofs that harvest energy directly from sunlight. The astonishing rate at which voluntary LEED standards have swept across the country suggests a deep hunger on the part of smart architects and builders for structures that will make sense throughout their 50-year lifetimes. We need to build on that momentum to create a new generation of energy efficient “living buildings.”</p><h3>Train the Labor Force</h3><p>Reversing climate change has an enormous potential to put America back to work. The greatest employment opportunities are for those who will transport and install solar modules, build and maintain wind farms, construct and operate the high-speed rail system and the “smart grid.” Programs, mostly at community colleges, to teach these new skills need to increase 100-fold, and a special emphasis should be placed on retraining the “losers” in the energy transitions — such as workers in coal mines and coal-fired power plants, etc. — and inner-city poor who have seen their job prospects disappear in the globalized economy.</p><h3>The Time is Now</h3><p>Following decades of political denial of climate science, America now lags far behind Europe and Japan in creating most of the basic building blocks for a carbon-neutral era. In several core renewable energy technologies, we have already been passed by China.</p><p>It’s not too late to get back in the game. But the global industry is rapidly expanding and maturing, and it has supportive government policies in Germany, Japan, the Nordic states, the Netherlands, South Korea, and China.</p><p>America has unparalleled scientific and engineering excellence, formidable financial muscle, bountiful natural resources, a democratic political system, and an entrepreneurial culture well-suited to helping to lead the world into a prosperous, carbon-neutral era. But we have been dragging our heels, as if this were a problem for our children to fix.</p><p>Global warming is our problem, and it’s time to get serious about solving it.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://polishdivadc.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-seven-mortal-sins.html">Seven Deadly Sins are pretty good but that &#8220;kids nowadays&#8230;&#8221;</a> What I mean is that most kids nowadays don&#8217;t even know (or care) what many of these sins even mean: Sloth? Gluttony? Envy? What does that mean?</p><p>Even so, most of these mortal, deadly, sins aren&#8217;t even sins any more, they&#8217;re American and good for the economy.  The economy would collapse were advertisers not able to leverage Pride, Envy, Lust, Gluttony, and Greed for their sales and marketing strategies! Come on, it is true, these &#8220;sins&#8221; drive the economy!</p><p>Also, when it comes to international relations and crowd control, Anger and Sloth pretty much drive the war on terrorism and make it easier for the Powers That Be to extricate our liberties from our cold Slothful fingers.</p><p>I am not making any sense on this &#8212; Diane nails it when she says, <em>&#8220;the problem is that people either don&#8217;t believe that they sin or that they don&#8217;t believe that telling someone else their sins will make them better people&#8221;</em> Diane says it better than me in <a
href="http://polishdivadc.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-seven-mortal-sins.html">The New Seven Mortal Sins</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I was a little <span
class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">surprised</span> to learn that the Vatican has issued a new list of seven deadly sins, particularly since the apparent reason for revisiting the list was because people aren&#8217;t taking advantage of the sacrament of reconciliation enough. But just looking at today&#8217;s headlines alone suggests that the old sins were the problem (i.e., lust at the Mayflower, envy of more popular presidential candidates). No, the sins aren&#8217;t the problem: the problem is that people either don&#8217;t believe that they sin or that they don&#8217;t believe that telling someone else their sins will make them better people.&#8221;</p><p>But for giggles, let&#8217;s review the list:</p></blockquote><blockquote><p><strong>THE OLD MORTAL SINS</strong><br
/> - Pride<br
/> - Envy<br
/> - Lust<br
/> - Gluttony<br
/> - Anger<br
/> - Greed<br
/> - Sloth</p><p><strong>THE NEW MORTAL SINS</strong><br
/> - Environmental pollution<br
/> - Genetic manipulation<br
/> - Accumulating excessive wealth<br
/> - Inflicting poverty<br
/> - Drug trafficking and consumption<br
/> - Morally debatable experiments<br
/> - Violation of fundamental rights of human nature</p><p>Now, father forgive me, I have no idea what some of these mean, nor do I believe that I have the resources to commit these sins. Genetic manipulation? I&#8217;m not running any cloning labs in my basement. And violation of fundamental rights of human nature? What the heck does that mean? Requiring Catholics to take a philosophy course before they make amends with G-d just doesn&#8217;t sound like an enticing way to get them back in the confessional.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://aeriekiss.piczo.com/" rel="external nofollow">Sydney</a></span> wrote:</p><p>KILL THE CHRIS!! KILL THE CHRIS!! cMON EVERYBODY, DONT SAVE THE CHRIS ABRAHAMS!!! considering he doesnt care about anything but himself. hes gonna ruin the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">jenn</span> wrote:</p><p>i think you are a fucked up person considering you dont care about anything but your self i hope a whale beaches it self on  you</p><p
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class="fn n">Tony</span> wrote:</p><p>I hope you burn in hell Whales r Awsome, they rule. Fuck u</p><p
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href="http://www.ruinscape.com/" rel="external nofollow">angie</a></span> wrote:</p><p>What the fuck is wrong with you, you selfish asshole!!! if you where getting harpooned to the point of near extinction-i think you would want to be saved…then again what whould the Japs need 2 do ‘research’ on a self centred-ass like yourself. whales have done NOTHING to this world besides making it alittle bit more beautiful. Dude, what have they done too you…do you feel unapriciated? being a member of a race of fucking BILLIONS!! Get a life you sick, redarded cocksucker!!! hope you randomaly get harpooned one day and dragged aboard a big fucking ship-whilst your skin is being riped off…hope you like hate-mail, motherfucker!! your gonna get lots. WHALES RULE. PEACE OUT xxx</p><p
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class="fn n">Jordan</span> wrote:</p><p>You truley are the most selfish uneducated vile and pathetic little man ive ever seen in my whole life. You know that 90 percent of these people that are standing up for whales and such, do not have children, or any sort of obligation at home, and do you not think that your family would be happy for you, that you’re doing something that you love? Well you truley are a fool. You say we should spend less time fighting for the whales… You are spending an equal ammount of time trying to stop us.. So take some of your own advise… Shut up, go back to school and stay in your dark cave with your beloved children… who I assume will grow up to be as little hearted, foolish, evil, vile and cruel. If you didn’t catch that you might want to get a dictonary… Do you know what a library is? Most likely not. Bloody idiot. Have fun loosing this war. <img
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href="http://watermeloncool.piczo.com/" rel="external nofollow">Victoria</a></span> wrote:</p><p>SHUT THE HECK UP! DON’T BE SUCH AN IDIOT! WHALES ARE ALMOST GONE! EXTINCTED! NADA! AND ALL YOU CAN DO TO HELP IS TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO KILL WHALES!? HAVE YOU GOT NO HEART!? IF YOU DO YOUR SO COLD HEARTED! WHAT THE HECK IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!<br
/> Y’KNOW I MAY ONLY BE A PRE-TEEN, BUT EVERYONE CAN MAKE A CHANGE IN THE WORLD! EVEN KIDS TOO. SO SHUT UP COLD HEART!</p><p
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href="http://baylee/" rel="external nofollow">bambam2cute4you@yaho</a></span> wrote:</p><p>Dude you really need to get a real hobby other than dissin’ the whales they are apart of the ecosystem and what goes around comes around so i hope that you get stolen by some japenese whalers that will take your guts and feed them to their hungery offspring!!! Plus I think that you dont even know how many ways us humans hurt animals every day so some of us are trying to help them!</p><p
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class="fn n">sea_angel27</span> wrote:</p><p>i think u should think again about not saving these amazing creatures they have lived here way before we did, that does NOT mean kill them. whales and dolphins, especially orcas are said to be as smart as humans maybe smarter, think of how they feel if one of their family members got killed!ur probably just a sick old man that sits all day thinking of these things. so… save the whales and all of gods creatures their not doing any harm to us! SELFISH PEOPLE LIKE U ARE!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Evelyn</span> wrote:</p><p>hope u die!<br
/> fuck u</p><p
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class="fn n">Tyler Boller Whale</span> wrote:</p><p>U are so selfish yes whales are important at the moment cause Japan is kkilling the for supposably reacher but how do u reacher a dead whale or any other animal in their natural habitat i agree with the other viewers on this web cause u are a heartless besterd and diserv to die .Other indanger animals need help too yes and we should help them but right now the whales need more help we are starting a club to save the whale we are collecting 5000 pennies to see how many whales will die for japan cause they said that is how many they are going to kill and the money we make is going to LOta a whale in Florida with the worlds smallest tank so they can make her a bigger tank.So u need to shut up and i hope ur family lives and u die y faggot. SAVE THE WORLD AND ITS LIVING CREATURE cuase we need living creatures to serive so we can live on cause they help our plants when they die and when they use the bathroom and we need them to eat vbut only certain ones .SAVE A COW EAT MORE CHICKEN&gt; and u need to help us save the whales and i bet u are a bitter old man all alone trying to get attion because u are lonly and missible but that doesn’t mean that u should try to stop us cause we the children of the world are ur future one day we may find away to save the world</p><p
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class="fn n">chelsiea lhamon</span> wrote:</p><p>i think you should research whales while they are alive and whale shouldn’t be dead they should live how would you like it if you was alive and some one killed you and ate you ?</p><p>thats my point i dont think you do.</p><p
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class="fn n">VivyRome</span> wrote:</p><p>You Rude Obnoxious idiot! How dare you put your CRUDE opinoins out there like that? I’m from D.C too and you’re lying my mother worked on the whale project with Green Peace and I’m fine.As is my wonderful family.Prejudice is wrong, you are discriminating against people who are trying to keep our economy and WORLD alive and intact. If you want to see it go up in flames, be my FUGLY (Fucking ugly)guest It’s a flippin’ free country you moron. Let it live. We need to save the world, and not exclude any creature. Yes children and are important, but SO ARE ALL ANIMALS! And, also, I agree with Amy: YOU, you heartless prat, deserve to be hunted by whale hunters!</p><p
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class="fn n">nema</span> wrote:</p><p>hello? is there a heart in your body? there are millons of humans on the earth, yes care about them but don’t not care about the animals and whales!! your website is sick and twisted, i’de rather see a kid die than a orca or a bottle nose dolphin!</p><p
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero">Amero and North American currency From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></strong>The <strong>North American currency union</strong> is a theorized <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_and_monetary_union" title="Economic and monetary union">economic and monetary union</a> of the three principal countries of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America" title="North America">North America</a>, namely <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a>, the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico" title="Mexico">Mexico</a>. Implementation would probably involve the three countries giving up their current currency units (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_dollar" title="Canadian dollar">Canadian dollar</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar" title="United States dollar">U.S. dollar</a>, and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso" title="Mexican peso">Mexican peso</a>) and adopting a new one, created specifically for this purpose. The hypothetical currency for the union is sometimes referred to as the <em><strong>Amero</strong></em>. The concept is modeled on the common <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union" title="European Union">European Union</a> currency (the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro" title="Euro">euro</a>), and it is argued to be a natural extension of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement" title="North American Free Trade Agreement">NAFTA</a> and the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_America" title="Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America">SPP</a>. <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory" title="Conspiracy theory">Conspiracy theorists</a> contend that the governments of the United States, Canada, and Mexico are already taking steps to implement such a currency. No current members of any country&#8217;s government have stated a desire to implement a &#8220;<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union" title="North American Union">North American Union</a>&#8220;.</p><h2><span
class="mw-headline">Basis and origin</span></h2><p>The idea for a North American currency union was first proposed in 1999 by Canadian economist <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_G._Grubel" class="mw-redirect" title="Herbert G. Grubel">Herbert G. Grubel</a>. A senior fellow of the conservative <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute" title="Fraser Institute">Fraser Institute</a> think-tank, he published a book entitled <em>The Case for the Amero</em> in September 1999, the year that the euro became a virtual currency. Another Canadian think-tank, the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.D._Howe_Institute" class="mw-redirect" title="C.D. Howe Institute">C.D. Howe Institute</a>, advocates the creation of a shared currency between Canada and the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>.</p><p>After the report came out, centre-left nationalist groups in Canada expressed their opposition to any currency union because they view it as an attempt by American businesses to gain access to Canada&#8217;s extensive natural resources while dismantling the nation&#8217;s social services. The 100,000 member strong <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Canadians" class="mw-redirect" title="Council of Canadians">Council of Canadians</a>, a progressive advocacy group, has declared one of its central issues to be the threat of &#8220;deep integration&#8221;.</p><p>The idea envisioned is a currency union of the US dollar, Canadian dollar, and the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso" title="Mexican peso">peso</a>, or the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollarization" title="Dollarization">dollarization</a> of Canada and Mexico.</p><h2><span
class="mw-headline">Support</span></h2><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Canada</span></h3><p>One argument is that it would save up to $3 billion in currency transactions.<sup> </sup>The same authors also stated that Canada&#8217;s GDP could rise by up to 33 percent in a 2-year period given the adoption of a single currency.<sup
class="noprint Template-Fact"><span
title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since January 2008" style="white-space: nowrap"><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"> </a></em></span></sup></p><p>The idea of a common currency has historically received more support in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec" title="Quebec">Quebec</a> than in the rest of Canada; in a 2001 poll over 50 percent of respondents favoured the idea.</p><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Mexico</span></h3><p>The possibility of a monetary merger has also been discussed in Mexico as a natural step to take after the NAFTA. Former Mexican president Vicente Fox echoed that view and expressed his hope for a greater integration of Canada, Mexico and the United States, including an eventual monetary union, while on a 2007 promotional tour for his book &#8220;Revolution of Hope.&#8221;</p><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Support in other regions</span></h3><p>Lower levels of currency cooperation have been practiced in the Americas before. A number of nations, such as <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina" title="Argentina">Argentina</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil" title="Brazil">Brazil</a>, and Canada, have at times <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_exchange_rate" title="Fixed exchange rate">tied their currency to</a> the U.S. dollar. Quite a few, such as <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruba" title="Aruba">Aruba</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados" title="Barbados">Barbados</a>, and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba" title="Cuba">Cuba</a>, still do.</p><p>The U.S. dollar is officially accepted alongside local currencies in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador" title="El Salvador">El Salvador</a> (since 2001) and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama" title="Panama">Panama</a> (since independence in 1903), although in practice these countries are fully dollarized. In <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000" title="2000">2000</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuador" title="Ecuador">Ecuador</a> officially adopted the U.S. dollar as its sole currency.</p><p>Unofficially, the U.S. dollar is treated as a <em>de facto</em> secondary currency in much of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America" title="Central America">Central America</a> and the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean" title="Caribbean">Caribbean</a>.</p><h2><span
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class="mw-headline">Criticisms and problems</span></h2><p>Opposition to a North American currency union exists high up in the governments on both sides of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_border" title="Canada–United States border">Canada–United States border</a>. Herbert Grubel, the first proponent of the amero, admits that American officials show no interest in the topic. He concedes that &#8220;there wouldn&#8217;t be very much benefit for the United States&#8221; in an amero. Likewise, the Canadian <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Finance_%28Canada%29" title="Department of Finance (Canada)">Department of Finance</a> strongly opposes the creation of a common currency with the United States, citing the loss of economic sovereignty. In briefing documents to <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_Finance_%28Canada%29" title="Minister of Finance (Canada)">Minister of Finance</a> <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Flaherty" title="Jim Flaherty">Jim Flaherty</a>, finance officials concluded:</p><blockquote><p> &#8220;A North American common currency would undoubtedly mean for Canada the adoption of the U.S. dollar and U.S. monetary policy. Canada would have to give up its control of domestic inflation and interest rates.&#8221;</p></blockquote><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Trade-offs</span></h3><p>From the point of view of the Canadian and Mexican governments, a major obstacle to the creation of a unified currency is the sheer dominance of the United States in any such union. Unlike any country in the EU, the USA has a larger economy than the rest of its respective continent/union combined.</p><p>A <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California%2C_Santa_Barbara" title="University of California, Santa Barbara">University of California, Santa Barbara</a> paper puts forward the idea that the United States simply has too many advantages from the <em>status quo</em> to move toward a single currency. The United States dollar already acts as a global currency, meaning any transition to a &#8216;new&#8217; currency would risk compromising this position and could cause a shift toward the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro" title="Euro">euro</a> or <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yen" class="mw-redirect" title="Yen">yen</a>. The U.S. dollar is currently being used in over half of all the world&#8217;s exports, double the total United States foreign trade. The adoption of the amero could threaten the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seignorage" class="mw-redirect" title="Seignorage">seignorage</a> that America currently gains from its American dollar. While seignorage would still be gained from the amero, this would be shared among the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Canada" title="Bank of Canada">Bank of Canada</a>, the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Reserve">Federal Reserve</a>, and possibly the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banco_de_M%C3%A9xico" class="mw-redirect" title="Banco de México">Banco de México</a>. Therefore, even if the amero were used just as much as the U.S. dollar, the advantages would be shared among two or more countries, and not exclusively earned by the United States.</p><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Differing economic policies &amp; situations</span></h3><p>Several problems could arise in regards to macroeconomic management. By submitting to a common currency, the countries would lose considerable <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy" title="Autonomy">autonomy</a> in the management of the currency itself, including the setting of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interest_rate" class="mw-redirect" title="Interest rate">interest rates</a>. Amongst the three potential participants, there is considerable difference in policy which would have to be reconciled.</p><p><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt" title="Debt">Debt</a> is a factor affecting currency prices. As of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008" title="2008">2008</a>, the debt of the United States continues to increase, while the debt of the Canadian federal government is being reduced. This is a clear advantage for Canadians, and it would not be reflected if the currencies were to merge. The importance of commodities also factors into this equation.</p><p>One possible problem with a North American currency union is the differing economic situations between each country, while the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone" title="Eurozone">Eurozone</a> is broadly similar being service-based economies based on high <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_spending" class="mw-redirect" title="Public spending">public spending</a> (compared to the United States), high taxes and wealth being created by the sale of goods and services. North America on the other hand has three distinct economies, one based mainly on agriculture and manufacturing, with a demand for free trade (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico" title="Economy of Mexico">Mexico</a>), one based on services such as retail, with low taxes and low public spending (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States" title="Economy of the United States">United States</a>), and an another based on services with higher taxes and higher public spending, with a large sector in primary goods such as oil, mining and lumber (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada" title="Economy of Canada">Canada</a>).</p><h3><span
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class="mw-headline">Political mandate</span></h3><p><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Dobbs" title="Lou Dobbs">Lou Dobbs</a>, a reporter and commentator for CNN, has posited that the formation of a &#8220;<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union" title="North American Union">North American Union</a>&#8221; is being approached without the knowledge and consent of the majority of the people who would be affected by this.</p><p>Conservative Caucus Chairman <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Phillips" title="Howard Phillips">Howard Phillips</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily" title="WorldNetDaily">WND</a> columnist and author <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi" title="Jerome Corsi">Jerome Corsi</a>, activist <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly" title="Phyllis Schlafly">Phyllis Schlafly</a>, among others, have formed a coalition against the amero. On <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_22" title="January 22">January 22</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, Republican Representatives <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Goode" title="Virgil Goode">Virgil Goode</a> of Virginia, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo" title="Tom Tancredo">Tom Tancredo</a> of Colorado, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Jones" title="Walter Jones">Walter Jones</a> of North Carolina, and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul" title="Ron Paul">Ron Paul</a> of Texas were among the 43 federal lawmakers who introduced H. CON. RES. 40, a resolution that expressed:</p><blockquote><p> &#8220;The sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement_%28NAFTA%29_Superhighway_System" class="mw-redirect" title="North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System">North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System</a> or enter into a North American Union (NAU) with Mexico or Canada.&#8221;</p></blockquote><h3><span
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution" title="United States Constitution">U.S. constitution</a> under <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_8:_Powers_of_Congress" title="Article One of the United States Constitution">Article 1, Section 8;</a> which states that the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress" title="United States Congress">United States Congress</a> has the right to: &#8220;coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;&#8221;</p><p>This concern rests on the contention that the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Reserve">Federal Reserve</a>, created in 1913, is unconstitutionally issuing and regulating American currency as it is a quasi-government entity and not part of the legislative branch of the United States government. While physical U.S. dollars are issued by the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_the_Treasury" title="Department of the Treasury">Department of the Treasury</a> (in paper form by the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Engraving_and_Printing" title="Bureau of Engraving and Printing">Bureau of Engraving and Printing</a>, in coin form by the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Mint" class="mw-redirect" title="U.S. Mint">U.S. Mint</a>), most dollars in existence are not in physical form, and the value of the dollar is largely controlled by the actions of the Federal Reserve in lending and purchasing government securities.<sup
class="noprint Template-Fact"><span
title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since January 2008" style="white-space: nowrap">[<em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a></em>]</span></sup></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">In the arts and literature</span></h2><ul><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest" title="Infinite Jest">Infinite Jest</a></em> by <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Foster_Wallace" title="David Foster Wallace">David Foster Wallace</a> takes place in the near future with a common North American Currency, and a strong US-led North American confederation.</li><li>North American Union and Amero was also mentioned in <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist%2C_The_Movie" class="mw-redirect" title="Zeitgeist, The Movie">Zeitgeist, The Movie</a></em>, as a stepping stone toward a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government" title="World government">world government</a></li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montezuma_Strip&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Montezuma Strip (not yet written)">Montezuma Strip</a></em> and <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mocking_Program" title="The Mocking Program">The Mocking Program</a></em>, both by Alan Dean Foster, take place along the U.S.-Mexican border in a North American Union. The police are called Federales.</li></ul><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">Rumors of &#8220;amero coins&#8221;</span></h2><p>In <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August" title="August">August</a> <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007" title="2007">2007</a>, rumors and conspiracy theories began circulating across the Internet regarding alleged <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Treasury" class="mw-redirect" title="United States Treasury">United States Treasury</a> issued &#8220;amero&#8221; coins.</p><p>The inspiration behind these rumors may have the posting of images of medallions created by coin designer Daniel Carr. Carr, who designed the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York" title="New York">New York</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island" title="Rhode Island">Rhode Island</a> 2001 <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_quarters" class="mw-redirect" title="Statehood quarters">statehood quarters</a>, sells medals and tokens of his own design on his commercial website, &#8220;Designs Computed&#8221; (also known as &#8220;DC Coin&#8221;). Among his designs are a series of silver and copper fantasy issues of &#8220;amero coins&#8221; ranging in denomination from one to one thousand. The coins have the legend &#8220;Union of North America&#8221; on the back with his company&#8217;s logo, a stylized &#8220;DC&#8221;, in small type. Concerning his &#8220;amero&#8221; designs, he mentions on his website:</p><table
style="border-style: none; margin: auto; border-collapse: collapse; background-color: transparent" class="cquote"><tr><td
style="padding: 10px; color: #b2b7f2; font-size: 35px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: left" valign="top" width="20">“</td><td
style="padding: 4px 10px" valign="top">My goal with these coins is not to endorse a Union of North America or a common &#8220;amero&#8221; currency. I fully support the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution" title="United States Constitution">United States Constitution</a>, and I would not welcome (in any form) a diminishment of its provisions. I expect that these coins will help make more people aware of the issue and the possible ramifications. I leave it up to others to decide if they are in favor of, or against a North American Union. And I encourage citizens to voice their approval or disapproval of government plans that impact them.</td><td
style="padding: 10px; color: #b2b7f2; font-size: 36px; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-weight: bold; text-align: right" valign="bottom" width="20">”</td></tr></table><p>Unauthorized postings of images taken from his website have been reposted widely across the Internet, often being used as supposed &#8220;proof&#8221; of the amero coinage. Notably, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_radio" title="Internet radio">Internet radio</a> <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_show" title="Talk show">talk show</a> host <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner" title="Hal Turner">Hal Turner</a> ran a full article on the &#8220;amero coin&#8221;, claiming to have arranged for a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Government" class="mw-redirect" title="United States Government">United States Government</a> minted &#8220;amero&#8221; to be smuggled out of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasury_Department" class="mw-redirect" title="Treasury Department">Treasury Department</a> by an employee of that organization.</p><p>Following Turner&#8217;s assertions of federal minting of ameros, a web site marketing the curio coins released a statement debunking Turner&#8217;s claims of a government cover up regarding Daniel Carr&#8217;s amero products. The debunking website <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes" title="Snopes">Snopes</a> also ran a further debunking of Turner&#8217;s claims, stating:</p><blockquote><p> &#8220;Neither the U.S. Mint nor the U.S. Treasury has a hand in creating these &#8216;ameros&#8217;. These coins are merely collectibles offered to the buying public by a private company in the business of manufacturing such curiosities.&#8221;</p></blockquote><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">See also</span></h2><ul><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_union" title="Monetary union">Monetary union</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union" title="North American Union">North American Union</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_America" title="Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America">Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar" title="United States dollar">United States dollar</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_dollar" title="Canadian dollar">Canadian dollar</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_peso" title="Mexican peso">Mexican peso</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Currency_Unit" title="World Currency Unit">World Currency Unit</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist%2C_the_Movie" title="Zeitgeist, the Movie">Zeitgeist, the Movie</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco_%28currency%29" title="Eco (currency)">Eco (currency)</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro" title="Euro">Euro</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Caribbean_dollar" title="East Caribbean dollar">East Caribbean dollar</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaleeji" title="Khaleeji">Khaleeji</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro_%28currency%29" title="Afro (currency)">Afro (currency)</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trade_blocs" title="List of trade blocs">List of trade blocs</a></li></ul><div
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href="http://www.bbcworldwide.com/">BBC Worldwide</a> and I am pretty excited.  I can finally hear US propaganda &#8220;outside the border&#8221; which is fascinating.  As part of <a
href="http://www.npr.org/worldwide/berlin/">NPR Worldwide&#8217;s broadcast this AM (104.1 FM)</a>, I got to hear a show this morning about the history of Public Diplomacy, which I found amazingly interesting. From 1914, I think they said, the US has had a real desire to educate and engage the world, which ended abruptly once we won the cold war. And then it all went to pot, especially since the responsibility of Public Diplomacy has been rolled into the <a
href="http://www.state.gov">US Department of State</a>.  Well, I am all for Public Diplomacy as a strategy that is much more effective than either PR or a propaganda war.  One of the most useful past strategies, which is being gutted because of post 9-11 paranoia, was the global encouragement of students to study in the USA.  One lad from Egypt spoke of his experience in Washington State at the University of Washington, saying, &#8220;I got to experience that most Americans live the American Dream on two parents working two jobs, which is something I would never have known from my experience of the USA from TV from Cairo.&#8221; Amazingly interesting.  Here&#8217;s some more info on <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy">Public Dimplomacy via Wikipedia</a> via <a
href="http://memes.org/only-public-diplomacy-can-heal-crisis-us-brand-perception">Memes.org</a></p><p><a
href="http://memes.org/only-public-diplomacy-can-heal-crisis-us-brand-perception"></a> <span
id="more-4424"></span></p><blockquote><p>In <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_relations" title="International relations">international relations</a>, the term <em><strong>public diplomacy</strong></em> is a term coined in the 1960s to describe aspects of international diplomacy other than the interactions between national governments. It has been closely associated with the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Information_Agency" title="United States Information Agency">United States Information Agency</a>, which used the term to define its mission. It was originally a euphemism for purportedly truthful <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda" title="Propaganda">propaganda</a>.</p><p>Standard <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy" title="Diplomacy">diplomacy</a> might be described as the ways in which government leaders communicate with each other at the highest levels, the elite diplomacy we are all familiar with. Public diplomacy, by contrast &#8211; according to the definition at the <a
href="http://www.uscpublicdiplomacy.org/" class="external text" title="http://www.uscpublicdiplomacy.org" rel="nofollow">USC Center on Public Diplomacy</a> &#8211; focuses on the ways in which a country (or multi-lateral organization such as the United Nations) communicates with citizens in other societies. A country may be acting deliberately or inadvertently, and through both official and private individuals and institutions. Effective public diplomacy starts from the premise that dialogue, rather than a sales pitch, is often central to achieving the goals of foreign policy: public diplomacy must be seen as a two-way street.</p><p>Film, television, music, sports, video games and other social/cultural activities are seen by public diplomacy advocates as enormously important avenues for otherwise diverse citizens to understand each other and integral to the international cultural understanding, which they state is a key goal of modern public diplomacy strategy. It involves not only shaping the message(s) that a country wishes to present abroad, but also analyzing and understanding the ways that the message is interpreted by diverse societies and developing the tools of listening and conversation as well as the tools of persuasion.</p><p>One of the most successful initiatives which embodies the principles of effective public diplomacy is the creation by international treaty in the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950s" title="1950s">1950s</a> of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community" title="European Coal and Steel Community">European Coal and Steel Community</a> which later became the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union" title="European Union">European Union</a>. Its original purpose after <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II" title="World War II">World War II</a> was to tie the economies of Europe together so much that war would be impossible. Supporters of European integration see it as having achieved both this goal and the extra benefit of catalysing greater international understanding as European countries did more business together and the ties among member states&#8217; citizens increased. Opponents of European integration are leery of a loss of national <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty" title="Sovereignty">sovereignty</a> and greater centralization of power.</p><h2><span
class="mw-headline">Public diplomacy as beyond propaganda</span></h2><p>After the dissolution of the USIA in 1999, the term has continued to be used within the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_government" class="mw-redirect" title="US government">US government</a>, especially the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Department_of_State" class="mw-redirect" title="US Department of State">US Department of State</a>. It has been used most often as the foreign policy equivalent of the term <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations" title="Public relations">public relations</a></em>, but embodies a much broader frame than this.</p><p>Aside from the use of media like the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America" title="Voice of America">Voice of America</a>, it also includes other kinds of interaction with the public in other countries. Arranging student exchange programs, hosting seminars, and meeting with foreign business and academic leaders are all considered public diplomacy. Indirect public diplomacy includes the everyday activities of citizens internationally, such as everyday cultural activities and products such as films, tourism, theatre, and internet discussion.</p><p>The term <em>public diplomacy</em> clearly originated as a euphemism for <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda" title="Propaganda">propaganda</a></em>. However, this definition is a somewhat dated definition, as more sensitive practitioners embody an intercultural, &#8216;learning&#8217; approach to public diplomacy, with an emphasis on <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue" title="Dialogue">dialogue</a> rather than propaganda.</p><p><a
title="A_history_of_the_term_.22public_diplomacy.22" name="A_history_of_the_term_.22public_diplomacy.22" id="A_history_of_the_term_.22public_diplomacy.22"></a></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">A history of the term &#8220;public diplomacy&#8221;</span></h2><p><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_J._Cull" title="Nicholas J. Cull">Nicholas J. Cull</a> of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USC_Center_on_Public_Diplomacy" title="USC Center on Public Diplomacy">USC Center on Public Diplomacy</a>, wrote in his essay <a
href="http://uscpublicdiplomacy.com/index.php/newsroom/pdblog_detail/060418_public_diplomacy_before_gullion_the_evolution_of_a_phrase/" class="external text" title="http://uscpublicdiplomacy.com/index.php/newsroom/pdblog_detail/060418_public_diplomacy_before_gullion_the_evolution_of_a_phrase/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;&#8216;Public Diplomacy&#8217; Before Gullion: The Evolution of a Phrase</a>:</p><blockquote><p> The earliest use of the phrase &#8220;public diplomacy&#8221; to surface is actually not American at all but in a leader piece from <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times" title="The Times">The Times</a></em> in January 1856. It is used merely as a synonym for civility in a piece criticizing the posturing of President <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Pierce" title="Franklin Pierce">Franklin Pierce</a>.</p></blockquote><p>According to <a
href="http://www.publicdiplomacy.org/" class="external text" title="http://www.publicdiplomacy.org" rel="nofollow">publicdiplomacy.org</a>, a website sponsored by the USIA Alumni Association,</p><blockquote><p> The term <em>public diplomacy</em> was first used in 1965 by <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edmund_Gullion&amp;action=edit" class="new" title="Edmund Gullion">Edmund Gullion</a>, a career diplomat, in connection with the foundation of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_R._Murrow" title="Edward R. Murrow">Edward R. Murrow</a> Center at <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tufts_University" title="Tufts University">Tufts University</a>&#8216;s <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fletcher_School_of_Law_and_Diplomacy" title="The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy">The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy</a>.</p></blockquote><p>The Murrow Center brochure described public diplomacy as:</p><blockquote><p> the influence of public attitudes on the formation and execution of foreign policies. It encompasses dimensions of international relations beyond traditional diplomacy . . . [including] the cultivation by governments of public opinion in other countries; the interaction of private groups and interests in one country with those of another . . . (and) the transnational flow of information and ideas.</p></blockquote><p>While Gullion and the Murrow Center were the first to use the term public diplomacy, their definition remains contested and controversial. Today, there is no one definition of public diplomacy, there are many definitions (<a
href="http://www.uscpublicdiplomacy.org/index.php/about/whatis_pd" class="external text" title="http://www.uscpublicdiplomacy.org/index.php/about/whatis_pd" rel="nofollow">links to other definitions</a>).</p><p>The dictionary definition of the word <em>propaganda</em> is &#8220;The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.&#8221; Notice that the definition says nothing about whether the material is or is not true; the essence of propaganda is that it is distributed with the intention of supporting a cause. The word literally means &#8220;that which ought to be propagated&#8221; and originated in the Catholic Church to describe the church agency responsible for evangelising. See the article on <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda" title="Propaganda">propaganda</a> for more detail.</p><p>In the United States, however, the word &#8220;propaganda&#8221; carried and carries the connotation of falsehood. The USIA has always maintained that its agencies, such as the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America" title="Voice of America">Voice of America</a>, are truthful. In a famous remark, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_R._Murrow" title="Edward R. Murrow">Edward R. Murrow</a>, then director of the USIA, said:</p><blockquote><p> Truth is the best propaganda and lies are the worst. To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible; to be credible we must be truthful. It is as simple as that.</p></blockquote><p>Nevertheless the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith-Mundt_Act" title="Smith-Mundt Act">Smith-Mundt Act</a> of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948" title="1948">1948</a> still prevents the distribution within the United States of official American information which was intended for foreign audiences, for example exempting <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America" title="Voice of America">Voice of America</a> from releasing transcripts in response to <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOIA" title="FOIA">FOIA</a> requests.</p><p>Broadly speaking, then, until recent times, the term <em>public diplomacy</em> has traditionally been used by those supporting it to mean <em>truthful propaganda.</em> But critics, such as the editors of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Archive" title="National Security Archive">National Security Archive</a> at <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_University" class="mw-redirect" title="George Washington University">George Washington University</a>, have viewed it in more nefarious terms, as a form of &#8220;covert propaganda.&#8221; They also report that &#8220;the bipartisan report of the Congressional <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra" class="mw-redirect" title="Iran-Contra">Iran-Contra</a> committees (November 1987, p. 34) found that &#8216;[i]n fact, &#8220;public diplomacy&#8221; turned out to mean public relations-lobbying, all at taxpayers’ expense.&#8217;&#8221;</p><p><a
title="See_also" name="See_also" id="See_also"></a></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">See also</span></h2><ul><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_Monitor" title="Diplomacy Monitor">Diplomacy Monitor</a>, a tool for tracking Internet-based public diplomacy</li></ul><p><a
title="References" name="References" id="References"></a></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">References</span></h2><ul><li>Fallows, James (2005) &#8220;Success without Victory,&#8221; <em>The Atlantic Monthly,</em> 295:1 p. 80 (Evera quotation)</li></ul><p><a
title="Other_relevant_articles" name="Other_relevant_articles" id="Other_relevant_articles"></a></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">Other relevant articles</span></h2><ul><li>&#8220;A Clash of Professional Cultures:The David Kelly Affair&#8221; by Biljana Scott (Published in Hannah Slavik (ed.) <a
href="http://www.diplomacy.edu/Books/publications.asp" class="external text" title="http://www.diplomacy.edu/Books/publications.asp" rel="nofollow">Intercultural Communication and Diplomacy</a>, <em>DiploFoundation</em>, 2004.)Also see conference slideshow presentation</li></ul><ul><li>&#8220;Multiculturalism for the masses: social advertising and public diplomacy post 9/11&#8243; by Biljana Scott (Published in Hannah Slavik (ed.) <a
href="http://www.diplomacy.edu/Books/publications.asp" class="external text" title="http://www.diplomacy.edu/Books/publications.asp" rel="nofollow">Intercultural Communication and Diplomacy</a>, <em>DiploFoundation</em>, 2004.)</li></ul><ul><li>&#8220;Public Diplomacy&#8221; by Pamela H. Smith, Minister-Counselor for Public Affairs, U.S. Embassy, London (Published in &#8220;Modern Diplomacy&#8221;)</li></ul><ul><li>&#8220;Multistakeholder Public Diplomacy of Small and Medium-Sized States: Norway and Canada Compared&#8221; by Jozef Bátora (Paper presented to the International Conference on Multistakeholder Diplomacy,Malta, February 11-13, 2005)</li></ul><p><a
title="External_links" name="External_links" id="External_links"></a></p><h2><span
class="editsection"></span><span
class="mw-headline">External links</span></h2><ul><li><a
href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/america" class="external text" title="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/america" rel="nofollow">How the World Sees America</a> &#8211; Amar Bakshi on Washington Post/Newsweek on Public Diplomacy</li><li><a
href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/Iraq/Bush-admits-Iraq-war-helped-extremists/2005/01/19/1106074809178.html" class="external text" title="http://www.theage.com.au/news/Iraq/Bush-admits-Iraq-war-helped-extremists/2005/01/19/1106074809178.html" rel="nofollow">Example of term being used</a> by President George W. Bush in relation to the Middle East &#8211; January 19, 2005 <em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age" title="The Age">The Age</a></em></li><li><a
href="http://wiki.uscpublicdiplomacy.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page" class="external text" title="http://wiki.uscpublicdiplomacy.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">Public Diplomacy Wiki</a> maintained by the <a
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href="http://www.publicdiplomacy.org/" class="external text" title="http://www.publicdiplomacy.org" rel="nofollow">Public Diplomacy (USIAAA)</a></li><li><a
href="http://www.palgrave-journals.com/pb/index.html" class="external text" title="http://www.palgrave-journals.com/pb/index.html" rel="nofollow">Journal of Place Branding and Public Diplomacy</a></li><li><a
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/11/dont-save-the-whales/" title="Permalink to Don’t Save the Whales" rel="bookmark">Don’t Save the Whales</a>. I can live with this sort of accusation given the context and the source. VivyRome wrote:</p><blockquote><p>You Rude Obnoxious idiot!  How dare you put your CRUDE opinoins out there like that? I&#8217;m from D.C too and you&#8217;re lying my mother worked on the whale project with Green Peace and I&#8217;m fine.As is my wonderful family.Prejudice is wrong, you are discriminating against people who are trying to keep our economy and WORLD alive and intact. If you want to see it go up in flames, be my FUGLY (Fucking ugly)guest It&#8217;s a flippin&#8217; free country you moron. Let it live. We need to save the world, and not exclude any creature. Yes children and are important, but SO ARE ALL ANIMALS! And, also, I agree with Amy: YOU, you heartless prat, deserve to be hunted by whale hunters!</p></blockquote><p>There have been a lot of history here and I have received a lot of comments very similar to this one. So, please do check out some of these articles if you want to either think or laugh &#8212; or both. <span
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2007/02/21/kill-the-humans-who-save-the-whales/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Kill the Humans Who Save the Whales">Kill the Humans Who Save the Whales</a>, <span
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/14/one-mans-rhetoric-is-another-mans-treasure/" title="Permalink to One Man’s Rhetoric is Another Man’s Treasure" rel="bookmark">One Man’s Rhetoric is Another Man’s Treasure</a>, <a
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/07/12/the-hypocrisy-in-the-hardcore-activists/" title="Permalink to The Hypocrisy in the Hardcore Activists" rel="bookmark">The Hypocrisy in the Hardcore Activists</a>, <a
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2007/08/18/my-selfish-attitude-to-life-on-whales/" title="Permalink to My Selfish Attitude to Life on Whales" rel="bookmark">My Selfish Attitude to Life on Whales</a>, <a
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2007/02/21/kill-the-humans-who-save-the-whales/" title="Permalink to Kill the Humans Who Save the Whales" rel="bookmark">Kill the Humans Who Save the Whales</a>, and <a
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id="more-2409"></span></p><h2>All About the Uzi thanks to <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzi" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a></h2><p>The <strong>Uzi</strong> (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language" title="Hebrew language">Hebrew</a>: <span
xml:lang="he" lang="he"><strong>????</strong></span>) is a family of guns that started with a   compact, boxy, light-weight <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_gun" title="Submachine gun">submachine gun</a>. Smaller and newer variants are   considered a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_pistol" title="Machine pistol">machine   pistol</a>. The first Uzi submachine gun was designed by <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uziel_Gal" title="Uziel Gal">Uziel Gal</a> (aka Fuctarp) in the late <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940s" title="1940s">1940s</a>. It was manufactured by <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Military_Industries" title="Israel Military Industries">Israel Military Industries</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrique_Nationale" title="Fabrique Nationale">Fabrique   Nationale</a>, and others.</p><h2>Design</h2><p>The Uzi fires the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_Luger_Parabellum" title="9 mm Luger Parabellum">9 mm Parabellum</a> <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartridge_%28weaponry%29" title="Cartridge (weaponry)">cartridge</a> (though some variants fire <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_LR" title=".22 LR">.22 LR</a>,   .41AE, or <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45ACP" title=".45ACP">.45ACP</a>) using an <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_bolt" title="Open bolt">open-bolt</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28arms%29" title="Blowback (arms)">blowback</a> operated   design with a cyclic rate of 600 round/min with a muzzle velocity of ~400 m/s   (~1,310 ft/s). The weapon is 650 mm (25.6 in) long with stock extended and 470   mm (18.5 in) without. It weighs 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) empty and 4 kg (8.8 lb) with a   fully loaded 25 round magazine inserted. Also available are 20, 32, 40 and 50   round magazines- <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_Luger" title="9 mm Luger">9 mm   Parabellum</a>, 10 round magazines-(.41) and (.22LR), and 16 round magazines-<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45ACP" title=".45ACP">.45ACP</a>. All of the above are manufactured   by IMI. Other high capacity magazines exist (e.g. 50 round magazines and 100   round drums in 9mm) which are manufactured by companies other than IMI (such as   Vector Arms).</p><p>It is made of stamped sheet metal and has relatively few parts, making it   easy to strip for maintenance. It features a magazine held within the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol" title="Pistol">pistol</a> grip, allowing for intuitive, and   easy, reloading in difficult conditions (&#8220;fist finds fist&#8221;). The weapon also   features a grip safety, making it difficult to fire accidentally. Despite the   grip safety, the Uzi is notorious for slam-firing when dropped or exposed to   sudden shocks. When decocked, the ejector port closes preventing entry of dust   and dirt. Also, the bolt wraps around the barrel, allowing a heavier,   slower-firing bolt in a shorter, better-balanced weapon. This is technically   known as a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescoping_bolt" title="Telescoping bolt">telescoping   bolt</a>.</p><p>It is said that although a superb weapon, the Uzi is prone to jamming in   desert environments because of sand, a fact which possibly contributed to the   Israeli military&#8217;s decision to phase out the gun.</p><p>The grip-mounted magazine gives the Uzi a highly distinctive,   instantly-recognizeable profile, and as such it is often seen in TV shows,   movies and computer games. In such portrayals, the weapon is often fired   one-handed (especially the Mini- and Micro-Uzis) and in some cases even as a   pair of weapons, one in each hand. Although it is theoretically possible to hold   and fire a pair of weapons in this manner, the inadequate recoil control of each   weapon by the user contributes to extremely poor accuracy, as well as the   possibility of hand or wrist injury.</p><h2>History</h2><p>The weapon was designed shortly after <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> gained its independence in the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War" title="1948 Arab-Israeli War">1948   Arab-Israeli War</a>. The design was based on the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_Model_25" title="CZ Model 25">CZ Model 25</a>. The Uzi submachine gun was submitted   to the Israeli army for evaluation and won out over more conventional designs   due to its simplicity and economy of manufacture. Gal did not want the weapon to   be named after him but his request was ignored.</p><p>The initial model was accepted in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951" title="1951">1951</a> and was first used in battle in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956" title="1956">1956</a> and   gained huge success. It was soon developed into a number of better engineered   variants.</p><p><a
href="/w/index.php?title=Israeli_defense_doctrine&#038;action=edit" title="Israeli defense doctrine">Israeli   defense doctrine</a> includes the practice of loading a magazine so that <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition" title="Tracer ammunition">tracer</a> rounds   alternate with regular rounds. In operation, the personnel aim by walking the   tracers onto the target.</p><p>The Uzi submachine gun was primarily used as a personal defense weapon by   rear-echelon troops, officers, artillery troops and tankers. Advanced and   smaller Uzi variations were used by the Israeli <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_forces" title="Special forces">special forces</a> until recently, when in December <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003" title="2003">2003</a>, the Israeli military announced that it   was completely phasing the Uzi out of use by its forces but would continue to   manufacture the weapon for both domestic use and export.</p><p>Total sales of the weapon to date (end <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001" title="2001">2001</a>) has netted IMI over $2 billion (US), with over   ninety countries using the weapons either for their soldiers or in law   enforcement.</p><p>The <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Bundeswehr" title="German Bundeswehr">German   Bundeswehr</a> still use the Uzi under the name MP2.</p><h2>Variants</h2><p>There are several smaller variants of the Uzi SMG:</p><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><strong>Mini Uzi</strong>, 360 mm (14.17 in) long and basically a scaled-down version   of the Uzi. First introduced in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980" title="1980">1980</a>, It   comes with a side-folding stock and retains a small forward handgrip.</li><li><strong>Micro Uzi</strong>, at only 250 mm (9.84 in) in length barely larger than a   standard <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol" title="Pistol">pistol</a> and about as small as   the original Uzi design could be made. It fires from a closed bolt position and   has a side-folding stock similar to the one on the Mini. The forward handgrip is   completely eliminated. First introduced in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986" title="1986">1986</a>.</li><li><strong>Para Micro Uzi</strong>, designed specially for <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_terror" title="Counter terror">counter terror</a> units. It was recently developed   by the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI" title="IMI">IMI</a> and is in use by Israeli   counter-terror units such as the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAMAM" title="YAMAM">YAMAM</a>. It   has a side-mounted charging handle, a provision which makes room for top and   bottom-mounted <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picatinny_rail" title="Picatinny rail">Picatinny   rails</a>. It has an angled pistol-grip to accommodate a 33-round <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLOCK_18" title="GLOCK 18">GLOCK 18</a> magazine.</li><li><strong>Uzi Pistol</strong>, a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic" title="Semi-automatic">semi-automatic</a> version of the Micro developed   for sale in countries where the civilian ownership of automatic weapons is   restricted, such as in the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA" title="USA">United States</a>.   Externally, it is distinguished by not having a stock or a recoil compensator.</li><li><strong>Uzi Carbine</strong>, a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic" title="Semi-automatic">semi-automatic</a> version of the full sized Uzi   SMG, with a longer 400 mm (16 inch) barrel. Was also generally available for   sale to civilians in the United States prior to both semi-auto models being   banned from import in 1994. New Uzi Carbines are still available from several   American manufacturers as of March, 2006.</li></ul><p>Those variants are still in use by many <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_forces" title="Special forces">special forces</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement" title="Law enforcement">law enforcement</a> agencies in the world &#8211;   including in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> and the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>.</p><ul><li>The unrelated but similar Ingram <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10" title="MAC-10">MAC-10</a> is often dubbed the &#8220;American Uzi&#8221;.</li></ul><h2>In Popular Culture</h2><p>The Uzi and its variants are some of the most popular submachine guns in the   world. Along with the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP5" title="Heckler &#038; Koch MP5">MP5</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10" title="MAC-10">MAC-10</a>, they have appeared in countless <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film" title="Film">films</a>, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_series" title="TV series">TV   series</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_games" title="Video games">video games</a>.   Here are some of the most popular:</p><h3>Films and Animation</h3><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger" title="Arnold Schwarzenegger">Arnold   Schwarzenegger</a> in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator" title="The Terminator">The   Terminator</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commando_%28film%29" title="Commando (film)">Commando (film)</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris" title="Chuck Norris">Chuck Norris</a> films</li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage" title="Nicolas Cage">Nicolas Cage</a> in <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_War" title="Lord of War">Lord of War</a></li><li><a
href="/w/index.php?title=Raid_on_Entebbe&#038;action=edit" title="Raid on Entebbe">Raid on Entebbe</a> where the characters using it were genuine <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli" title="Israeli">Israeli</a> soldiers.</li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix" title="The Matrix">The Matrix</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_Reloaded" title="Matrix Reloaded">Matrix Reloaded</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madness_Combat" title="Madness Combat">Madness Combat</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Comet" title="Night of the Comet">Night of the   Comet</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_Geese" title="The Wild Geese">The Wild Geese</a> A   film about mercenaries in southern Africa.</li></ul><h3>TV</h3><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_A-Team" title="The A-Team">The A-Team</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission:_Impossible" title="Mission: Impossible">Mission:   Impossible</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer" title="The Equalizer">The Equalizer</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Vice" title="Miami Vice">Miami Vice</a></li></ul><h3>Games</h3><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24:_The_Game" title="24: The Game">24: The Game</a></em> (Micro MG)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLACK" title="BLACK">BLACK</a></em></li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRIV3R" title="DRIV3R">DRIV3R</a></em> (Uzi SMG)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver:_Parallel_Lines" title="Driver: Parallel Lines">Driver: Parallel Lines</a></em> (Mini Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Operations" title="Global Operations">Global   Operations</a></em> (Micro-Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldenEye_007" title="GoldenEye 007">GoldenEye 007</a></em> (ZMG 9mm)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_III" title="Grand Theft Auto III">Grand   Theft Auto III</a></em> (Micro Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Vice_City" title="Grand Theft Auto: Vice City">Grand Theft Auto: Vice City</a></em></li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_San_Andreas" title="Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas">Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas</a></em> (Micro Uzi as the Micro-SMG)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_Liberty_City_Stories" title="Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories">Grand Theft Auto: Liberty   City Stories</a></em> (Uzi SMG)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitman_%28computer_game_series%29" title="Hitman (computer game series)">Hitman (computer game   series)</a></em> (Uzi and Micro-Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagged_Alliance_2" title="Jagged Alliance 2">Jagged   Alliance 2</a></em></li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_Zero" title="Perfect Dark Zero">Perfect Dark   Zero</a></em> as a UGL Liberator</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_I.G.I.:_I%27m_Going_In" title="Project I.G.I.: I'm Going In">Project I.G.I.: I&#8217;m Going In</a></em></li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Six_3:_Raven_Shield" title="Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield">Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield</a></em> (Uzi and Micro-Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Specialists" title="The Specialists">The   Specialists</a></em> (Micro-Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCOM:_U.S._Navy_SEALs" title="SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs">SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs</a></em> (9mm Sub)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT_3" title="SWAT 3">SWAT 3</a></em> (Mini-Uzi)</li><li><em><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_Raider_series" title="Tomb Raider series">Tomb Raider   series</a></em></li></ul><h3>Other appearances</h3><p>Most notably, the Uzi submachine gun is the favored gun of <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I.-Joe" title="G.I.-Joe">G.I.-Joe</a> Commando <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_Eyes" title="Snake Eyes">Snake Eyes</a>. It has also been included with several   G.I.-Joe action figures.</p><p>An Uzi is pictured on the cover of the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_tract" title="Chick tract">Chick tract</a> <em>Sin Busters</em>.</p><p>There is an Uzi weapon available in the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash" title="Flash">Flash</a> game <a
href="/w/index.php?title=Dynasty_Street&#038;action=edit" title="Dynasty Street">Dynasty Street</a>.</p><h2>See also</h2><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submachine_guns" title="List of submachine guns">List   of submachine guns</a></li><li><a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_MP9" title="Ruger MP9">Ruger MP9</a></li></ul><h2>External links</h2><ul
lastcheckbox="null"><li><a
href="http://www.isayeret.com/content/weapons/smg/uzi/guide.htm" title="http://www.isayeret.com/content/weapons/smg/uzi/guide.htm">Uzi Guide</a> at isayeret.com &#8211; The Israeli Special Forces Database</li><li><a
href="http://www.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/history.htm" title="http://www.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/history.htm">Uzi History</a></li><li><a
href="http://www.bimbel.de/artikel/artikel-13.html" title="http://www.bimbel.de/artikel/artikel-13.html">Uzi in Parts</a>(german)</li><li><a
href="http://www.vectorarms.com/other/UZI_history.html" title="http://www.vectorarms.com/other/UZI_history.html">Uzi History and Lore</a></li></ul><div
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