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href="http://adage.com/power150/">Power 150</a> site and then hack it around into a contact list of over 900 of the top advertising, marketing, PR, and SEO bloggers on the planet, I did so.</p><p>Ever since, I have been scheduling calls with all of the folks I have been admiring on a daily basis. Two days ago I spent an hour on the horn with <a
href="http://www.leehopkins.net/">Lee Hopkins</a>, &#8220;one of Australia&#8217;s leading thinkers on communication strategy in an online environment,&#8221; who is, in fact, one of the World&#8217;s leading thinkers on communication strategy in an online environment.  We had a great chat &#8212; and amazing talk!</p><p>At the end, Lee asked me if he could blog the conversation and I jumped at the opportunity and late last night Lee published <strong><a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2009/02/25/is-email-marketing-still-relevant-in-a-20-world/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Is email marketing still relevant in a 2.0 world?">Is email marketing still relevant in a 2.0 world?</a></strong> which is not only the most complete description of what we at <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com">Abraham Harrison LLC</a> do on a daily basis but it is said in a better, more comprehensive, way than I could even conceive of doing myself.  Here it is, in full.  Be sure to <a
href="http://leehopkins.net/">visit</a> (and <a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/bcr-blog">subscribe to</a>) <a
href="http://leehopkins.net/">Better Communication Results</a>, Lee Hopkin&#8217;s blog.</p><p><span
id="more-5569"></span></p><blockquote><p
class="headline_area"><strong><a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2009/02/25/is-email-marketing-still-relevant-in-a-20-world/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Is email marketing still relevant in a 2.0 world?">Is email marketing still relevant in a 2.0 world?</a></strong></p><p>G&#8217;day &#8211; thanks for returning!<br
/> <img
src="http://www.leehopkins.net/images/Isemailmarketingstillrelevantina2.0world_6F6E/chrisabrahamandsarawilson.jpg" style="border: 0px none ; display: inline" title="Chris Abraham and Sara Wilson discussing their next blogger outreach program. Yesterday." alt="chrisabrahamandsarawilson Lee Hopkins on Email Marketing in Digital PR" border="0" width="500" height="200" /></p><p><span
style="background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; line-height: 70px; margin-top: -2px; padding-right: 2px; font-family: georgia,times,impact; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; float: left; color: #8b8bb4; font-size: 80px; font-weight: bold; margin-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px">I</span> just finished a fantastic conversation with Chris Abraham, the President and COO of <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/">AbrahamHarrison</a>.</p><p>If you’ve been around the internet for a while, especially in the ‘marcoms’ (marketing communications) space, you would certainly have heard of Chris; if not of the man himself then certainly of one of his marketing and outreach programs.</p><p>Chris is one of those select few online marketers who’s text doesn’t read like a traditional online direct mail piece – you know, with LOTS OF CAPITALS and <strong>heaps of bold text</strong> and <font
style="background-color: yellow">yellow highlighting</font> and <em>italics</em> and</p><ul><li>bullet</li><li>points</li><li>a-</li><li>plenty</li></ul><p>and testimonials by the kazillion…</p><p>I could point you to a zillion of those sites – which is not to say that the style of marketing they use is not successful; it is, otherwise they wouldn’t keep doing it. But you know as soon as you see the huge, bold, bright red and often in CAPS headline what to expect for the rest of the (very) long toilet roll of a page.</p><p>Chris takes a much softer approach, always has done, and it seems to work for him and his style of copywriting.</p><p><strong>Video, the radio star and plain ol’ bandwagon idjuts</strong></p><p>With the advent of Web2.0/Social Media there were many ill-informed and just plain ‘bandwagon’ pundits who hailed the death of traditional communication tools such as email, web1.0 sites and – gasp – newspaper, magazine, radio and television.</p><p>Much as television didn’t kill radio as force it to rethink its place and find its niche, so too with Social Media. Every new technology platform or societal change brings with it a change in how all that came before it must view themselves and continue to offer relevancy.</p><p>Radio didn’t die, newspapers haven’t been killed off, I can still pick up plenty of magazines that appeal to all demographics and both genders from my local newsagent, and email hasn’t disappeared off the radar (if my bulging inbox every morning is anything to go by).</p><p>So it was fantastic to finally chat with someone who, like me, believes that email is STILL a fundamental part of the marketing toolkit.</p><p>In talking with Chris today, he was genuinely flattered that a fellow copywriter would find his material engaging; I thought it was brilliant reading and his deployment strategies for his clients brilliantly executed.</p><p>You see, Chris, like me, believes that email won’t go away, but WILL have to change in order to survive in the new communication landscape. Our shared view is that it will have to evolve in a couple of ways:</p><ol><li>Shorter emails will be the best way of getting people’s attention</li><li>Long-form emails are best saved for newsletters; trying to ‘sell’ via email will become even harder to excel at.</li></ol><p>If you’ve ever received one of Chris’ emails, you will be stunned by several things:</p><ol><li>They are short – only 2-3 paragraphs</li><li>They link off to a SMNR (Social Media News Release) that gives a far more in-depth level of information (and all the material you might need to help you spread the word or get involved)</li><li>If you email Chris or anyone of his team back you WILL get a response, usually within 24 hours (Chris says they try to get back within the hour, but time zones can sometime defeat them)</li><li>The emails ‘read’ like they were written by a human being, not by a ‘PR’ flack or a ex-journalist hack; they aren’t full of ‘me, me, me’ stuff telling you how wonderful I (the company) am, but neither do they ‘strip-tease tantalise’ you so that when you <em>do</em> click on the link you end up feeling cheated</li><li>You get the very real feeling that there’s someone real at the end of the email.</li></ol><p>Here’s an example (taken from <a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2008/07/16/fresh-air-the-sm-news-release-done-right/">my post about the Fresh Air Fund</a>):</p><blockquote><p>Hello again, Lee</p><p>On Sunday I asked if you would kindly help me spread the word about 200 inner-city children I have yet to place with host families in August. I apologize for following up so soon, but time is of the essence and you know how funny email can be. To make things simple, everything is collected into an online resource page <a
href="http://freshair.smnr.us/">http://freshair.smnr.us</a></p><p>This appeal comes straight from the top, so please do not hesitate to contact me directly.</p><p>Yours sincerely,</p><p>Sara</p><p>–<br
/> Sara Wilson<br
/> Fresh Air Fund<br
/> <a
href="mailto:sara@freshair.org">sara@freshair.org</a><br
/> <a
href="http://www.freshair.org/">www.freshair.org</a></p></blockquote><p>Sara is a real person, not a ‘fake’ character. I sent her an email yesterday, wondering if her ears were burning, because Chris and I were talking about her:</p><blockquote><p>G’day Sara,<br
/> Just finished the phone call with Chris — oh boy! Were your ears burning? They should have been!!!<br
/> Kindests,<br
/> Lee</p><p><strong>From:</strong> Sara Wilson [mailto:swilson@chrisabraham.com]<br
/> <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, 24 February 2009 2:02 AM<br
/> <strong>To:</strong> Lee@leehopkins.com<br
/> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: Fellow Power 150 blogger</p><p>Hello Lee,<br
/> Just a quick note to re-confirm that Chris will be calling you at 10 am, your time, tomorrow (Tuesday).<br
/> No need to reply unless something has come up on your end, otherwise he will speak to you in about 7.5 hours!<br
/> Best,<br
/> Sara</p></blockquote><p>In reply, Sara said,</p><blockquote><p>Lee,<br
/> And I thought it was just hot where I was last night …  <img
src="http://leehopkins.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt="icon smile Lee Hopkins on Email Marketing in Digital PR" class="wp-smiley" title="Lee Hopkins on Email Marketing in Digital PR" /><br
/> It’s very kind of you to mention it, thanks.   Chris is a great guy to work for, and generous with compliments, but it’s always nice to know that someone appreciates you, isn’t it?<br
/> Cheers,<br
/> Sara</p></blockquote><p><strong>Controversy</strong></p><p>Because Chris and his team start any campaign with an email-based blogger outreach, some of the ‘holier than thou’ social media purists occasionally give him ‘stick’, or snicker behind his back and call him a ‘spammer’. <strong>Not true</strong> – the team are <em>very</em> hot on ensuring only a good taste remains in the mouth of any blogger they contact, and of only offering bloggers something of actual value <strong><em>to the blogger</em></strong>.</p><p>Which is a behaviour totally unlike the hapless, clueless and insulting PR flacks who regularly show up on <a
href="http://badpitch.blogspot.com/">The Bad Pitch Blog</a> and who attempt to fill my inbox with material about electronics, or sanitary napkins, or (ahem) extension kits, or pharmaceuticals shipped from Canada. Thank goodness I have <a
href="http://www.spamarrest.com/affl?4044569"><strong>SpamArrest</strong></a> to filter them out before they hit my inbox!</p><p>Chris and his team have painstakingly built up a list of nearly 35,000 bloggers across several different demographics and topic areas of interest. Visiting their blogs, they harvest their email address. They then politely email them once to offer them something of interest – if the blogger likes it, they very often blog about it; it they don’t then they don’t. What is fascinating is the response rate Chris gets for his clients.</p><p>Word of mouth and gossip-sharing amongst internet marketers has the average rate of sales of anything (be it a blog post or an ebook or a ‘course you cannot live without’) as around 0.01-0.05% from an initial mailing, with the follow-up mailings increasing that to, perhaps, 1.0-2.0%…</p><p>Chris and his team regularly get a takeup in the order of 5%, which is phenomenal. In addition, once you start developing an email relationship with anyone in their team (as I have with Sara Wilson) then all future mailings will receive much more attention than would otherwise be the case. A case in point is my own, later, post on the <a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2008/09/01/russia-georgia-and-south-ossetia-survivor-corps/">illegal cluster bombing being carried out in South Ossetia</a> and <a
href="http://www.survivorcorps.org/">The Survivor Corps</a> run by activist and author of the very powerful book,  <a
href="http://iwillnotbebroken.smnr.us/">I Will Not Be Broken</a>, Jerry White. It is only because Sara had taken the time to develop a relationship with me over previous months that I read and responded to the material from Jerry White. Without that relationship I would never have bothered with a topic outside of my normal areas of interest.</p><p>It is the classic ‘relationship marketing’ that Social Media Marketing pundits claim to aim for but rarely achieve.</p><p>Goodness, if I could have a dollar for every new ‘expert’ that’s popped up in the Social Media space I would retire a very rich trillionaire (and at the same time wondering how you could be a trillionaire and <em>not</em> be very rich – I guess if you were living in Zimbabwe you wouldn’t be…).</p><p>You wouldn’t believe the number of ‘leading social networking and social media marketing experts’ who have suddenly come out of the woodwork and set up communities in places like LinkedIn, Plaxo, Facebook, etc. Curiously, I’ve never heard of these folks before. Most of them don’t even have blogs, or if they do those blogs have only been around for less than a year. Curious, hey?</p><p>But Chris, on the other hand, <strong>has</strong> been around for a long time, has figured out what works and what doesn’t, and as evidence offers the following case studies:</p><ul><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/energy-bill-2007-case-study">Energy Bill 2007 Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/financial-services-reputation-defense-case-study">Financial Services Reputation Defense Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/firebrand-tv-case-study">Firebrand TV Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/fresh-air-fund-case-study">Fresh Air Fund Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/international-medical-corps-case-study">International Medical Corps Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/movie-producer-reputation-defense-case-study">Movie Producer Reputation Defense Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/snapple-antioxidant-water-case-study">Snapple Antioxidant Water Case Study</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/case-studies/survivor-corps-book-promotion-case-study">Survivor Corps Book Promotion Case Study</a></li></ul><p>If you want to see the sort of posts that are associated with Chris’ kind of blogger PR pitch outreach, here are some examples:</p><ul><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-operation-survivor-bloggers">Thank You Operation Survivor Bloggers</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-all-who-supported-international-medical-corps">Thank You All Who Supported International Medical Corps!</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-again-survivor-corps-bloggers">Thank You Again Survivor Corps Bloggers</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-international-medical-corps-bloggers">Thank You International Medical Corps Bloggers</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-fresh-air-fund-holiday-bloggers">Thank You Fresh Air Fund Holiday Bloggers</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-fresh-air-fund-bloggers">Thank You Fresh Air Fund Bloggers</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/thank-you-fresh-air-fund-camp-counselor-bloggers">Thank You Fresh Air Fund Camp Counselor Bloggers!</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/powerful-seo-benefits-blogger-pr-outreach">The Powerful SEO Benefits of Blogger PR Outreach</a></li><li><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/happy-thanksgiving-abraham-harrison">Happy Thanksgiving from Abraham Harrison</a></li></ul><p>Here are some examples of client SMNRs from Chris and his team that I especially like:</p><ul><li><a
href="http://anamigo.smnr.us/">http://anamigo.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://freshair.smnr.us/">http://freshair.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://banclusterbombs.smnr.us/">http://banclusterbombs.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://freshairfundcounselors.smnr.us/">http://freshairfundcounselors.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://survivorcorps.smnr.us/">http://survivorcorps.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://internationalmedicalcorps.smnr.us/">http://iwillnotbebroken.smnr.us</a></li><li><a
href="http://internationalmedicalcorps.smnr.us/">http://internationalmedicalcorps.smnr.us</a></li></ul><p><strong>So what???</strong></p><p>The whole point of this post is NOT to fawn at the feet of someone who clearly knows what he is doing.</p><p><strong>The whole point</strong> IS to let you know that you <strong>don’t</strong> need to <strong>throw out your baby with the bathwater</strong>:</p><ul><li><strong>Don’t </strong>jump on the Social Media bandwagon without educated advice</li><li><strong>Don’t </strong>take advice from a pimply 17 year old fresh out of high school</li><li><strong>Don’t </strong>take advice from a less-pimply 23 year old fresh out of university</li><li><strong>Don’t</strong> ditch all of your understanding of how ‘people’ and networks work</li><li><strong>Don’t</strong> take advice from someone who doesn’t even blog themselves, or Twitter, or Facebook… (see my <a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2009/02/18/be-a-social-media-guru-in-a-mere-24-hours/">post about Social Media Gurus</a>)</li><li><strong>Don’t</strong> take advice from someone who has been blogging less than 24 months</li></ul><p>Instead:</p><ol><li>Download <a
href="http://pr-squared.com/">Todd Defren</a>’s absolutely superb ‘<a
href="http://www.pr-squared.com/2009/02/ebook_on_social_media_marketin.html">Brink</a>’ guide to Social Media and Richard Meyer’s great presentation, ‘<a
href="http://leehopkins.net/Social%20Media%20:%20What%20you%E2%80%99re%20afraid%20to%20admit%20you%20didn%E2%80%99t%20know%E2%80%99">Social Media : What you’re afraid to admit you didn’t know</a>’ (he also has a great <a
href="http://worldofdtcmarketing.com/page1/assets/CGM%20for%20Digital%20Pharma.pdf">pharma and biotech-focused pdf presentation</a>). Download and read Trevor Cook’s and my ‘<a
href="http://leehopkins.net/2008/03/24/cook-hopkins-social-media-report-3rd-edition/">Social Media Report</a>’.</li><li>Talk to someone who actually knows what they are doing – in Australia that means folks like <a
href="http://www.acidlabs.org/meet-us/stephen-collins/">Stephen Collins</a>, <a
href="http://laurelpapworth.com/">Laurel Papworth</a>, <a
href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/trevorcook/">Trevor Cook</a>, <a
href="http://www.problogger.com/">Darren Rowse</a>, <a
href="http://www.servantofchaos.com/">Gavin Heaton</a> and, humbly, yours truly. If WE can’t help you, we can certainly put you in touch with someone who can. Unlike the USA, where there seems to be a spirit of “You’ll prize my rolodex out of my frozen dead fingers!”, there is no fierce spirit of competition here in Australia – we have  ‘co-opertition’ wherein we all help each other out if the ‘fit’ seems better for the client.</li><li>Stick to reading the seasoned ‘pros’ of the online marketing and/or business communication space: you cannot go wrong if you start at folks like any of the above, or <a
href="http://twitter.com/shel">Shel Holtz</a>, <a
href="http://nevillehobson.com/">Neville Hobson</a>, <a
href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/">Chris Brogan</a>, <a
href="http://www.problogger.com/">Darren Rowse</a>, <a
href="http://www.twistimage.com/blog/">Mitch Joel</a>, <a
href="http://jaffejuice.com/">Joe Jaffe</a> , <a
href="http://pistachioconsulting.com/about-us/ceo-blog/">Laura Fitton</a> and <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com//">Chris Abraham</a> himself; see who <em>they</em> link to. Follow your nose from them – all the way along the path you will be reading ‘the good oil’ as we say here in Australia</li><li>Examine Chris’ examples above and see for yourself how simple but effective your online marketing can be if you do it with the right intention – of <strong>helping out the blogger, not flogging stuff for your client</strong>. Get the relationship right and you will flog stuff for your client anyway, trust me!</li></ol><hr
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href="http://technorati.com/tags/email" rel="tag">email</a>, <a
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href="http://technorati.com/tags/spamarrest" rel="tag">spamarrest</a>, <a
href="http://technorati.com/tags/business+communication" rel="tag">business communication</a></p><p>Currently listening to ‘Next’ by <a
href="http://thenecks.com/" title="Visit the band's website and buy their music -- brilliant stuff!">The Necks</a> from the album ‘Next’. Superb jazz funk from one of Australia’s great cult bands.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchrisabraham.com%2F2009%2F02%2F25%2Flee-hopkins-on-email-marketing-in-digital-pr%2F&media=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leehopkins.net%2Fimages%2FIsemailmarketingstillrelevantina2.0world_6F6E%2Fchrisabrahamandsarawilson.jpg&description=Lee+Hopkins+on+Email+Marketing+in+Digital+PR" count-layout="horizontal" class="pin-it-button2" ><img
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isPermaLink="false">http://chrisabraham.com/2009/02/23/oscar-winner-prediction-roundup/</guid> <description><![CDATA[Via Search Engine Journal, Oscars Predictions for 2009 Winners Online: AOL’s MovieFone 2009 Oscar Predictions : AOL has put together a slideshow of their Oscar Pool predictions and have picked Penelope Cruz for Best Supporting Actress &#38; Sean Penn as Best Actor from the film Milk. Oscar Frenzy : A blog crazy about the Oscars [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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name="fb_share" type="button" share_url="http://chrisabraham.com/2009/02/23/oscar-winner-prediction-roundup/"></a></div><div
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href="http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchrisabraham.com%2F2009%2F02%2F23%2Foscar-winner-prediction-roundup%2F&media=&description=Oscar+Winner+Prediction+Roundup" count-layout="horizontal" class="pin-it-button2" ><img
border="0" style="border:0;" src="//assets.pinterest.com/images/PinExt.png" title="Pin It" alt="PinExt Oscar Winner Prediction Roundup" /></a></div><p>Via Search Engine Journal, <a
href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/oscars-predictions-for-2009-winners-online/8781/">Oscars Predictions for 2009 Winners Online</a>:</p><blockquote><ul><li><a
href="http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards/photos/oscar-predictions" target="_blank">AOL’s MovieFone 2009 Oscar Predictions</a> : AOL has put together a slideshow of their Oscar Pool predictions and have picked Penelope Cruz for Best Supporting Actress &amp; Sean Penn as Best Actor from the film Milk.</li><li><a
href="http://www.oscarfrenzy.com/commentary/2009-oscar-predictions-previewing-the-best-films-of-2008/" target="_blank">Oscar Frenzy</a> : A blog crazy about the Oscars with their predictions list and a vibrant commenting frenzy, Oscar Frenzy has gone against the grain and predicted that Revolutionary Road will win the Best Picture.</li><li><a
href="http://movies.msn.com/oscars/predictions/" target="_blank">MSN Movies</a> : MSN, like most other online entertainment sites, is not predicting that Mickey Rourke will win Best Actor, and feels that Sean Penn will win it for Milk, although they say Rourke should win because he has earned it.</li><li><a
href="http://oscar.go.com/" target="_blank">Oscars on Go.com</a> : Of course since ABC is hosting the actors they can’t really predict the winners without there being any controversy, but they have set up the Official Oscars site with live streaming of the Oscars and the Red Carpet festivities.</li></ul></blockquote><div
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<category><![CDATA[commentator]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Comments]]></category> <category><![CDATA[confirmation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[controversies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[controversy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[conversational]]></category> <category><![CDATA[conversations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[conversions]]></category> <category><![CDATA[counties in california]]></category> <category><![CDATA[crossings]]></category> <category><![CDATA[decline]]></category> <category><![CDATA[doe]]></category> <category><![CDATA[dozens]]></category> <category><![CDATA[east bay express]]></category> <category><![CDATA[engineer]]></category> <category><![CDATA[evenings]]></category> <category><![CDATA[extortion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[feelings]]></category> <category><![CDATA[financial times]]></category> <category><![CDATA[follower]]></category> <category><![CDATA[followers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Friends]]></category> <category><![CDATA[game]]></category> <category><![CDATA[generations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gist]]></category> <category><![CDATA[goode]]></category> <category><![CDATA[goodness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[initial response]]></category> <category><![CDATA[initiative]]></category> <category><![CDATA[initiatives]]></category> <category><![CDATA[insight]]></category> <category><![CDATA[insightful]]></category> <category><![CDATA[insightful article]]></category> <category><![CDATA[insights]]></category> <category><![CDATA[integrity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[interns]]></category> <category><![CDATA[jonathan]]></category> <category><![CDATA[likeness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liking]]></category> <category><![CDATA[liter]]></category> <category><![CDATA[locals]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Management]]></category> <category><![CDATA[manipulation]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mark]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marketability]]></category> 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<category><![CDATA[signs]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sleaze factor]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sorts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sufferance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[suffering]]></category> <category><![CDATA[surveys]]></category> <category><![CDATA[taked]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Technorati]]></category> <category><![CDATA[think]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tops]]></category> <category><![CDATA[train]]></category> <category><![CDATA[trains]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tweet]]></category> <category><![CDATA[tweets]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Twitter]]></category> <category><![CDATA[twittering]]></category> <category><![CDATA[twitters]]></category> <category><![CDATA[vigilance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[visibility]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Writing]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chrisabraham.com/2009/02/21/the-contorversy-about-yelp/</guid> <description><![CDATA[Jonathan Trenn popped this insightful article about Yelp over on Marketing Conversation, The contorversy about Yelp (and be sure to check out David Gelles&#8217; article on a similar topic over at the Financial Times, Yelp rejects claims of extortion): Ah, controversy. Now, it&#8217;s with Yelp, the mega online review site.  On Wednesday, the East Bay [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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border="0" style="border:0;" src="//assets.pinterest.com/images/PinExt.png" title="Pin It" alt="PinExt The contorversy about Yelp" /></a></div><p>Jonathan Trenn popped this insightful article about Yelp over on Marketing Conversation, <a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2009/02/21/the-contorversy-about-yelp/" rel="bookmark">The contorversy about Yelp</a> (and be sure to check out David Gelles&#8217; article on a similar topic over at the Financial Times, <a
href="http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2009/02/yelp-rejects-claims-of-extortion/">Yelp rejects claims of extortion</a>):</p><blockquote><p>Ah, controversy.</p><p>Now, it&#8217;s with <a
href="http://www.yelp.com">Yelp</a>, the mega online review site.  On Wednesday, the East Bay Express, an alternative newspaper that covers Alameda and Contra Costa counties in California, published <a
href="http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/PrintFriendly?oid=927491">a very provocative article </a>, &#8220;Yelp and the business of extortion 2.0&#8243; on the sales operations and tactics of Yelp.  The paper made some very pointed accusations, some of them seemingly legitimate while others sounding too nebulous.  They state that Yelp is both maniupulating the placements of restaurants reviews as sales tools and then using scare tactics to then solicit advertising sales from these same restaurants.</p><p>The accusations are alarming but, because I think the article was poorly presented, it&#8217;s left me thinking that Yelp perhaps had a major sales problem in one office as opposed to a company wide sleaze factor policy.</p><p><a
href="http://officialblog.yelp.com/2009/02/kathleen-richards-east-bay-express.html">Yelp&#8217;s initial response</a>, written on the company blog by CEO Jeremy Stoppleman is inept and insufficient.  He&#8217;s likely satisfied that his blog posts are enough&#8230;and it may appear to be just that for the time being&#8230;but controversies such as this, be they true or just speculation, have a way of undermining a company&#8217;s integrity in a hurry.  Especially a site that 1)  is about user generated online reviews, and 2) has trust as a hallmark of its standing.</p><p>Oddly, the Yelp blog doesn&#8217;t allow comments.  That&#8217;s not a good idea&#8230;especially for a site that&#8217;s about online reviews and citizen participation.<span
id="more-5545"></span></p><p>Here&#8217;s the gist of the article.  Writer Kathleen Richards talked to &#8220;dozens&#8221; of business owners over the &#8220;past several months&#8221; and found that six of them said that Yelp sales reps promised to remove or move bad reviews if the business chose to advertise.  And these businesses would often get sales calls from Yelp reps soon after they mysteriously started getting a rash of negative reviews.  The theory here is that Yelp employees would start to or enlist others to write negative reviews on a company, those reviews would then appear at the top of a company&#8217;s page, and the company would get a phone call from a rep looking for an advertising by so those reviews can &#8220;go away&#8221;&#8230;usually to the tune of $300 a month.</p><p>For those that declined, positive reviews seemed to begin to disappear.  For those that did manage to buy, negative ones began disappearing.</p><p>This is pretty damning stuff.  If true, it shows a coordinted effort between people in sales those on the back end tech team.  It made some establishments feel as if Yelp was acting as if it was the &#8220;mafia&#8221; in that Yelp was threatening establishments to pay (advertise) in order to not be damaged.  That&#8217;s called &#8220;protection money&#8221; in organized crime.</p><p>But as I red between the lines I ended up scratching my head.   Over several months, after talking to &#8220;dozens&#8221; of businesses, Richards found six restaurants that felt that either they were being offered a quid-pro-qo for advertising to reduce or eliminate bad reviews; or some felt that this extended to manipulative threats of the placement of poor reviews and the elimination of postive reviews.</p><p>&#8220;Dozens.  &#8220;What does that mean?  36?  60?  84?  How did Richards find these restaurants?  Did she talk to one and then ask the owner/manager if he or she knew of any others that had similar stories?  Both questions are important.   The first because it leads to how widespread the problem actually is in the Bay Area and the second, because if there is a lack or randomness to all this, then the sample restaurants are self selected by the reporter.</p><p>The article relies on the how some of the restaurant owners &#8220;feel&#8221;.  These feelings may be completely legitimate.  But it is hard to counter a &#8220;feelings&#8221;e of another is the one with the feelings remain anonymous.  I fully believe in using anonymous sources, but there should be greater evidence used.  That is, if one is trying to prove that this is a consistent sales tactic used by the company as a whole.</p><p>And speaking of as a whole.  This article seems to be focusing soley on the East Bay restaurant seen.  True, it is an East Bay pub, but the article is written as if it is a widespread problem and the issue here is &#8220;the business of extortion&#8221;.  It fully damns the Yelp based on a small sample of local business&#8217; feelings.</p><p>Stoppleman has since written a few more blog posts, but he could use a change of attitude.  There&#8217;s been enough discussion on the net about this article denigrating Yelp.  Hundreds of <a
href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=Yelp">tweets on Twitter</a>, <a
href="http://technorati.com/search/Yelp?language=n">negative mentions </a>on Technorati, and <a
href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/159911/dont_trust_yelp_or_anyone_else_with_your_online_reputation.html">articles</a> in substantial online pubs.</p><p>The reason why I say that Stoppleman could use a change of attitude is because he&#8217;s treating all of this as an illegitimate attack.  The accusations, regardless of their veracity, at least sound reasonable.  And his defensiveness doesn&#8217;t really address the issue.</p><p>He does have on post that does work, at bit, in my opinion.  <a
href="http://officialblog.yelp.com/2009/02/9-myths-about-yelp.html">&#8220;Nine Myths About Yelp&#8221;</a> is designed to negate what he feels are falsehoods.  The most important one he lists is #3 (it should be #1, but he doesn&#8217;t seem to realize it).  It is stated here:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Myth #3: Yelp salespeople manipulate reviews for prospective advertisers (for example, offers to remove a negative review if a new client signs up, or a threat to remove positive reviews if the business owner does not choose to advertise with Yelp)</strong></p><p>Reality: We have every reason to trust the smart, hard-working and ethical salespeople who work at Yelp.  Beyond this, to avoid even an appearance of impropriety, we&#8217;ve taken several steps to ensure no member of our team is tempted to game the system.  Specifically:<br
/> 1. Yelp salespeople do not have access to the system that deletes reviews; only a few members of Yelp engineering and user support team have this access, and they literally work on different floors within the office.<br
/> 2. Every Yelp salesperson signs an agreement that s/he will not write reviews of any business while employed by Yelp.  We trust our teammates in sales to live up to this commitment.  We also have several monitoring systems in place to ensure nobody (accidentally or otherwise) crosses this line.<br
/> 3. Through our vigilance, we once did find a salesperson who encouraged a friend to write a positive review for a prospective client (that the friend had actually patronized). The salesperson&#8217;s role at Yelp ended that day.<br
/> 4. When a new advertiser signs up with Yelp, the relationship is handed off to an Account Manager.  The Account Manager then takes the client through a 30 minute phone training session &#8212; and confirms that reviews have nothing to do with advertising.<br
/> 5. After the training call, the Account Manager sends a follow up survey that asks each client how much s/he agrees with the following statement: &#8220;I understand that Reviews are completely separate from the Yelp Ad Program, and that there is an automated filter that may suppress some of my reviews whether or not I am a client.&#8221;  Any client who does not click &#8220;Completely Agree&#8221; in this case gets yet another follow-up call for clarification.</p><p><strong>Myth #4: Yelp removes positive reviews from businesses its staff does not like, or from businesses that do not pay for advertising</strong></p><p>Reality: A review you may have seen on Yelp previously is no longer there; this happens.  The review in question may have &#8220;disappeared&#8221; for one of three reasons:<br
/> 1. The review may have been suppressed by Yelp&#8217;s automated <a
href="http://www.yelp.com/faq#missingReviews">Review Filter</a>, which is always out there looking for suspicious reviewing activity (like those anonymous rants and raves you see on other sites).<br
/> 2. The writer may have removed her own review; she has the right to do that at any time<br
/> 3. Another user believed the review violated Yelp&#8217;s <a
href="http://www.yelp.com/faq#remove_review">Review Guidelines</a> and sent it to our customer service team for review. The customer service team agreed, then manually removed the review.</p><p>Both our customer service team and the Review Filter work exactly the same way for advertisers as they do for non-advertisers.</p></blockquote><p>This is how he should have addressed the issue at the very beginning.  Blown opportunity and his company has suffered and will continue to suffer as a result.  And he has to go beyond stating that the sales people and the tech people with access to placement of reviews work on different floors.</p><p>My guess is what happened is that a few sales reps in that particular office would scour the reviews on Yelp, and when they found some recent newly written negative ones, they then picked up the phone and made a sales call, offering the package that places a selected postive review on top &#8211; one that is visibly marked as being sponsored.  Some pitches probably went far beyond this&#8230;saying that they could make the negative one &#8220;disappear&#8221;.  Sales people will say sleazy things.  Stoppleman should understand this and not discount this.  He should then conduct some sort of internal audit that would show the public that he is trying to address the problem and root it out if it exists.  Retrain.  Resolve.</p><p>Now is it possible that some sales types had relationships with the tech people.  Absolutely.  Different floors &#8211; HA!  So the problem may have been more than a poorly written article.  Yelp needs to look into that because, as Yelp knows, online reputations matter.</p><p>And to Jeremy Stoppleman&#8230;you should allow people to comment on your blog posts.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.startribune.com/nation/39687887.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUnciatkEP7DhUsl">200 pound chimpanzee in fact recently shot</a>, people):</p><p
style="text-align: center"><img
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href="http://gawker.com/5155724/threats-to-new-york-post-have-begun">Gawker</a> , <a
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href="http://www.whoppervirgins.com/">Whopper Virgins</a> campaign as perpetrated by Burger King over on <a
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href="http://www.portentinteractive.com/blog/whopper-virgins-not-appalling.htm">Whopper Virgins: Not Appalling. Not Brilliant, Either</a>.</p><blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.portentinteractive.com/blog/whopper-virgins-not-appalling.htm"><strong>Whopper Virgins: Not Appalling. Not Brilliant, Either</strong></a></p><p>Chris Abraham over at Marketing Conversations wrote an <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133445">thoughtful critique of Burger King’s new Whopper Virgins</a> campaign.</p><p>I appreciate Chris’s opinion: The video is at times jingoistic and, frankly, a little embarrassing if you’re an American. Burger King went out of their way to find people in local clothing minutes from major urban centers in Europe. How exactly did they do that? Much of the video is just more ugly Americans pointing and giggling at the rest of the world.</p><p>I also see Burger King’s thinking: This is a great viral piece. The effort alone &#8211; flying a broiler all around the world to cook burgers, for gosh sakes &#8211; is worthy of a documentary.</p><p>So, is the Whopper Virgins campaign ‘good’ marketing? Marketing should:</p><ul><li>Help the target audience make informed decisions about products. Nothing about this video does that. Nothing tells me why I’d want a Whopper.</li><li>It should not make the target brand look foolish. Burger King ends up looking (in my opinion) a tad silly. They spent who-knows-how-much money to shoot this. Could they have better spent the money on other aspects of marketing? Or on their product? Also, “Whopper <strong>Virgins</strong>? Are you kidding me?</li><li>Make me want the product. This video utterly fails to do that. Granted, I’m a classic middle-class liberal. So I have no sense of humor. But I’m also an avid fast food consumer. This video makes me want Wendy’s.</li><li>Take risks. Good marketers take chances now and then. Nothing wrong with that. And this video clearly takes a gamble.</li><li>It should generate buzz. It’s certainly done that, with headlines like “Socially Awkward” and “Just Bad Taste?”.</li></ul><p>I don’t think this video deserves the controversy it’s generated. You could interpret it as offensive. But would you consider it as offensive if the video had been done by National Geographic? Probably not.</p><p>But it’s not good marketing, either. It’s an art project: A huge investment of dollars in something that probably won’t pay off, in spite of the kerfuffle right now.</p><p>How many burgers do you have to sell to pay for that rental helicopter, I wonder?</p></blockquote><p
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isPermaLink="false">http://chrisabraham.com/2009/01/01/twitter-pr-from-the-financial-times/</guid> <description><![CDATA[My buddy David Gelles is now a Technology reporter and blogger for the Financial Times and I was so happy to see David writing about Twitter PR, something very dear to my heart, Companies use Twitter to pack PR punch, including Scott Monty of Ford as well as the gang from PepsiCo&#8217;s Pepsi Max controversy: [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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href="http://davidgelles.com/">David Gelles</a> is now a <a
href="http://search.ft.com/search?queryText=gelles&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&amp;aje=true&amp;dse=&amp;dsz=">Technology reporter and blogger</a> for the Financial Times and I was so happy to see David writing about Twitter PR, something very dear to my heart, <a
href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/607a9a28-d6a2-11dd-9bf7-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1">Companies use Twitter to pack PR punch</a>, including <a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/12/27/what-scott-monty-has-taught-me/">Scott Monty of Ford</a> as well as the gang from <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">PepsiCo&#8217;s Pepsi Max controversy</a>:</p><blockquote><p
class="ft-story-header"><strong><a
href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/607a9a28-d6a2-11dd-9bf7-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1">Companies use Twitter to pack PR punch</a>  </strong><br
/> By David Gelles in San Francisco</p><p>Published: December 30 2008 19:16 | Last updated: December 30 2008 19:16</p><p
class="ft-story-body">Twitter, a booming micro-blogging service, is inspiring business to manage its message in 140 characters or less.</p><p>Its streams of short text messages, publicly broadcast over the web, are being treated as the new frontline of internet conversation. Companies including <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:F" symbol="us:F">Ford</a></strong> and <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:PEP" symbol="us:PEP">PepsiCo</a></strong> have been dousing public relations fires with pithy communication bursts to the Twitter community.</p><p>“There’s a rapid-fire element to Twitter that causes conversations to go viral when something bad happens with a company,” says Jackie Huba, co-founder of the Society for Word of Mouth, an organisation that monitors social media. “Companies that have a Twitter account are prepared. If something goes wrong they can respond.”</p><p>PepsiCo turned to Twitter this month after users began posting criticisms of a Pepsi Max advertisement, which depicted a cartoon calorie committing suicide.</p><p>Huw Gilbert, communications manager for PepsiCo International, “tweeted”, or posted a public message, in reply. “Huw from Pepsi here,” he wrote. “We agree this creative is totally inappropriate; we apologise and please know it won’t run again.”</p><p>Critics saw Mr Gilbert’s post, with one “tweeting” back: “Thank you?.?.?.?for having the guts to get on Twitter on behalf of Pepsi and give us an update on the suicide ad.”</p><p>Such personal interaction from a company representative helps defuse a crisis, says Ms Huba. “People like feeling like they’re being heard,” she says.</p><p>Scott Monty, head of social media for Ford Motors, used Twitter to deflect criticism away from the carmaker after it filed suit against an enthusiast website that was selling unauthorised Ford decals. Fans of the site posted angry messages but Mr Monty used Twitter to explain the company’s position.</p><p>“Part of my job is to humanise the company – you want to interact,” Mr Monty says.</p><p><strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:SBUX" symbol="us:SBUX">Starbucks</a></strong>, <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:CMCSA" symbol="us:CMCSA">Comcast</a></strong>, <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:JBLU" symbol="us:JBLU">JetBlue</a></strong> and <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:HD" symbol="us:HD">Home Depot</a></strong> are among companies using Twitter accounts to promote products and provide customer service.</p><p>Bob Pearson, head of communities and conversation for <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:DELL" symbol="us:DELL">Dell</a></strong>, said his company had generated $1m in computer-related sales through alerts posted to Twitter.</p><p>San Francisco-based Twitter is also becoming a platform for a range of media and social networking start-ups using its tools to develop communities and content rapidly, and at low cost.</p><p
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isPermaLink="false">http://chrisabraham.com/2008/12/23/revised-whopper-virgins-post-on-adage/</guid> <description><![CDATA[I posted version one of this article on my blog already. I showed it to Matt Creamer, my editor over at AdAge, and he told me he didn&#8217;t care if I had already posted it but that I would need to add a couple primer paragraphs to bring people into the history behind the Whopper [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/">AdAge</a>, and he told me he didn&#8217;t care if I had already posted it but that I would need to add a couple primer paragraphs to bring people into the history behind the Whopper Virgins controversy. I wrote a couple-few paragraphs and submitted and Matt posted it yesterday, <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133445">One Whopper &#8230; and Hold the Ugly-American Sauce</a>:</p><p><span
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href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133445">One Whopper &#8230; and Hold the Ugly-American Sauce</a></strong></p><p><em>Burger King Campaign Shows Off American Provincialism at Its Worse </em></p><p>Burger King has brought the Whopper vs. Big Mac taste test to the farthest corners of the globe in search of <a
href="http://www.whoppervirgins.com/">Whopper Virgins</a>.  According to the site, there are still people in the world who have  never been marketed to by either McDonald&#8217;s or Burger King, to say  nothing of having tasted the two flagship burgers of each fast-food  restaurant. For these people, Whoppers and Big Macs were either  spirited to them from the closest restaurants&#8211;In the case of  Bucharest, Romania, both were within 15 minutes&#8211;or the burgers were  made by hand by a quality expert on a specially-designed propane travel  flame broiler.</p><p>Whopper Virgins promised to be a proper documentary film, I was  assured. The filmmakers would simply find people who have not been  market-bombed by McDonald&#8217;s &#8212; a few of the uncorrupted &#8212; and allow  them to taste both burgers <em>et voila</em>!  Nothing could go wrong, surely, from such a noble aim, right? I mean,  their goal was to simply escape the mediasphere and find some folks who  have remained (until, of course, now) pure from the media machine <em>(Schrodinger&#8217;s documentary!).</em></p><p>Of course, a lot of the buzz about this documentary happened on <a
href="http://www.trendrr.com/timeseries/whopper_virgins_%28Number_of_Matching_Twitter_Posts_per_Day%29__413180">Twitter</a>, especially in light of <a
href="http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=motrin-moms-a-twitter-over-ad-take-2008-11-17">Motrin Moms</a> and the <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">Pepsi suicide ads</a>. People have been very leery of the entire endeavor. And, of course, it has been called <a
href="http://mamanetbebe.blogspot.com/2008/12/whopper-virgins.html">American imperialism</a>.</p><p>The <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2FmCCVbBFU">Whopper Virgins documentary</a> reveals as much about the provincialism of Americans as it does  possibly about the &#8220;primitives&#8221; they&#8217;re documenting. Besides, the  American obsession with the &#8220;<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Savages">Noble Savage</a>&#8221; is so 18th century. And this sort of untoward behavior is the furthest thing from <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_Oblige">noblesse oblige</a>. They are neither being noble nor are they honoring any sort of moral obligation.</p><p>My one question is whether authentic cultural garb was procured for  these taste-testers. I hate to burst your bubble but Bucharest is a  proper city with a <a
href="http://www.unibuc.ro/en/home">major university</a>.  I have a friend who has her Masters in genetics and her Ph.D. in  immunology. She almost never dresses in these Romanian costumes. Wait,  actually never. Not only that, but this McDocumentary (sorry McDonalds)  should have been edited because the open and honest interviews with the  ugly Americans is appallingly insensitive and disgusting.</p><p>So, tell me, are those traditional cultural costumes authentic or  monkey suits? Was this the decision of the bonehead producer or the  director, or did this crisp, minty-fresh garb just happen to be what  these folks were wearing? Were they just aching to be used there in the  back of everyones&#8217; closet? Or, was this the regalia these test subject  were wearing when and where they were discovered? I really want to  know!</p><p>The most deplorable part of this documentary is the critique and  unself-aware commentary of the way these test subjects took to the  burger, along the lines of &#8220;These people are so authentic because they  don&#8217;t even know how to eat a burger to say nothing of a sandwich.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><object
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href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043#comments">Pepsi Apologized to Me for Its Suicide Ads</a></p><blockquote><p>Thank you so much for all of your comments.</p><p>@Todd Jordan &#8212; thanks. I have been thinking about being 20-something in 2008 and I think sarcastic is out and earnest is in. Agencies don&#8217;t get it. Their art directors are Seinfeld-era and don&#8217;t realize that teens and 20-something are serious. And I think BBDO and PepsiCo are assuming the story won&#8217;t leave this medium. I am told that the OJ verdict is going to kill this story on MSM.</p><p>CC Chapman knows Bonin and likes him. He&#8217;s for real. Here&#8217;s another thing about social media and social networks&#8230; blowback comes as a result of &#8220;who the hell are you.&#8221;</p><p>If you don&#8217;t spend enough time building brand and connection &#8212; &#8220;Ah, I know you!&#8221; &#8212; then when Bonin Bough comes to my INBOX, I assume sneakiness, right?</p><p>I am being kind to Bonin because I have my own firm and work in the social media PR space, http://chrisabraham.com &#8212; this means that I understand how risky and bold PepsiCo&#8217;s response was.</p><p>Matt and I wondered at the fact that BBDO could be so pre-Internet with their risk-assessment while their Social Media Response Team (is it Edelman?) is so good.</p><p>Mind you, the moment I got to Bonin&#8217;s &#8220;My best friend committed suicide and this is a topic very close to my heart&#8221; I balked and considered that sort of admission, from someone I don&#8217;t even know, to sound either tacky (at the very least), inappropriate, or just pandering&#8230;</p><p>@BL OCHMAN I have just been in DC too long around Lawyers, Consultants, Politicians, and too many people who are in the world of Military Intelligence. I assume everyone may be pulling the &#8220;iocane powder&#8221; switcheroo&#8230;</p><p>@michaeldaehn I don&#8217;t think shamelessness with this level of multinational brand ever works. As a PR professional, we highly &#8212; strongly &#8212; no, forcefully recommend always responding to this thing with Mea Maxima Culpa &#8212; never engage this sort of thing in any space, really. &#8220;If you struggle, you&#8217;ll only make it worse; and, if you say nothing, it will be even worse than that&#8221; is what I say.</p><p>@David Moore That&#8217;s a very British thing to say. When I was a student at UEA, I almost punched my buddy Paul&#8217;s teeth in when he started really laying into the piss-taking. See, Paul was from Cardiff and I, sadly, am an American. We American&#8217;s really can&#8217;t take a good Mickey.</p><p>@CHRISTINE LU I have been watching you online and on Twitter with great interest. You&#8217;re doing a much better job with this than I am, that&#8217;s for sure. My sincerest condolences for your loss.</p><p>@Linda Bogie I am only impressed by @Tweetmeme because it meant that the article was spreading and so people would most certainly respond. I am not impressed. The ads were wrong and appalling. Suicide is not amusing, not funny, and I hate that Suicide Bunny (am I the only one?)</p><p>@Michelle McCormack MMM I am glad I am not a nobody. – Chris Abraham | Berlin</p></blockquote><div
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/> </a></strong><em>A close-up look at how the marketer is handling fallout from its controversial German ads</em></p><p>This week, PepsiCo got into hot water with more than a few folks after  some suicide-themed ads many found offensive were brought to light.  Here&#8217;s how they&#8217;re using social media to apologize to  consumers—including me.</p><p> I received an email from B. Bonin Bough of PepsiCo, <a
href="http://twitter.com/boughb" target="_blank">@boughb on Twitter</a>, responding to <a
href="http://twitter.com/chrisabraham/status/1035115648" target="_blank">my tweet</a> about the recent post that Matt Creamer wrote a couple days ago, <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=132952" target="_blank">&#8220;Pepsi Opens a Vein of Controversy With New Suicide-Themed Ads&#8221;</a>,  about some ads that were run here in Germany in a lifestyle mag—ads  Pepsi says it won&#8217;t run again after they received heavy criticism all  over the web.</p><p> I&#8217;ll excerpt the first part of the email from Mr. Bough, who holds the  title of director-social and emerging media and is based at Pepsi&#8217;s  Purchase, N.Y. campus:</p><blockquote><p> I saw your tweet and I just wanted to make sure I responded  personally. We agree this creative is totally inappropriate; we  apologize and please know it won&#8217;t run again. Also, thanks for the  feedback and the Digg, it is important to discuss these types of  issues.</p><p> My best friend committed suicide and this is a topic very close to my heart. So again I offer my deepest apologies.</p><p> Feel free to follow-up via twitter to me &#8211; @boughb or Huw &#8211; @huwgilbert or respond to this email.</p><p> Thanks,  Bonin</p></blockquote><p> <img
src="http://adage.com/images/bin/image/medium/pepsi_max_3.jpg?1228255136" alt=" Pepsi Apologized to Me For Its Suicide Ads" width="322" height="473" hspace="5" vspace="5" align="right" title="Pepsi Apologized to Me For Its Suicide Ads" />I know you all think I am going to mock Bonin, but I won&#8217;t. I think  this was a very bold and risky maneuver and worthy of praise rather  than a tarring and feathering. And his outreach to me, a nobody, was  accomplished within two days. When I replied to Bonin, asking if I  might be allowed to post his email, he replied back that I could post  his email but to try to &#8220;treat it kindly.&#8221; I hope I am.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think that Bonin knew that I blog for AdAge or that I know a  bit about how the marketer is surprised about how well-traveled the ads  have been. The old we-didn&#8217;t-think-anyone-here-would-see-it approach.  Well, that&#8217;s the Internet for you. Someone passed along the scans of  the PepsiMax ad, &#8220;One is a Very Very Lonely Calorie,&#8221; to the alert gang  here at AdAge.</p><p> Within two days of tweeting, I received a note from <a
href="http://twitter.com/tweetmeme/status/1037780414" target="_blank">@tweetmeme</a>,  a sure sign that my tweet had gone memetic (and that I had played at  least a bit part in the mad traffic to the AdAge post as well as the  resulting <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=132952#comments" target="_blank">40 comments</a>.)</p><p> Here&#8217;s how fast and furious social media works. The article was posted  on AdAge at 4:36 PM EST on December 2nd. I read it and Tweeted at 6:16  PM EST the same day. And then I received said email from Mr. Bough at  5:21 PM on December 4. The lesson here is that social media has eyes  everywhere and the network to make sure that advertisers can no longer  hide stuff in niche markets. There is a word in intelligence about just  this thing, and it relates to messaging and propaganda: backwash.  Social media makes backwash inevitable. Here&#8217;s another one from  Intelligence: blowback. Backwash leads to blowback.</p><p>There&#8217;s no way to isolate this kind of advertisement. And there is  an inverse proportion between how badly you want your ad to remain  niche and the sensationalism surrounding its discovery. It&#8217;s a really  obvious point, but one still clearly worth stating: The internet makes  it impossible for any marketer to control which geographies and  demographics see any particular communication. You can&#8217;t even really  control what media it appears in. Think you&#8217;re creating an edgy print  ad that will only be seen in a German magazine? Think again. In the  blink of an eye, your ad is on the web. You know, the world wide one.  And all kinds of people are pissed off.</p><p>What I like about what &#8220;Bough, Bonin {PEP}&#8221; did here is that he  responded almost immediately, rather personally, and opened himself up  to us social media mavens. Bravo! Full marks. Another thing I like  about his apology is that there is a very good chance that I am being  played, that Mr. Bough is playing reverse psychology on me. Yes, he  readily approved my posting of this message when I asked, which leads  me to believe that the very act of clicking on the post right now is  just going to help PepsiCo with an amazingly-savvy viral marketing  campaign for PepsiMax.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-147">Palin = MORON</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://sogetthis.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 12:58.</div><div><p>Only  a complete moron would vote for a Republican after the past 8 years of  idiocy. McCain is a Bush croney and Palin is just an idiot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/147">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-146"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-146">reply to KB in IA</a></div><div> Submitted by ab (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 08:52.</div><div><p>KB,<br
/> Sorry, I don&#8217;t usually reply to these remarks, but I couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;&#8230;..<br
/> What message of &#8220;hate&#8221; are you talking about?<br
/> If someone doesn&#8217;t agree with your worldview, that doesn&#8217;t<br
/> mean they hate. Where is your tolerance?<br
/> AB</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/146">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-145"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-145">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Walter Arndt (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 22:23.</div><div><p>Only a person with his head in the sand would vote for a democrat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/145">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-144"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-144">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by KB in IA (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 21:54.</div><div><p>Things  might get interesting soon, since the Alaska Supreme Court said today  that the investigation known as Troopergate could proceed, dashing the  hopes of the McCain/Palin campaign to stonewall it until after the  election (article at <a
href="http://www.adn.com" title="www.adn.com">www.adn.com</a>).  Amazing that someone CURRENTLY under investigation for misuse of public  office, could be stirring up crowds with a message of hate.  Mind-boggling that someone who had to attend 5 or 6 different colleges  before getting a degree in journalism, can try to make a bogeyman out  of someone who graduated with honors from Harvard Law. I hope Alaska  gets their Governor back soon&#8230;if they even want her back.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/144">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-143"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-143">Re: Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 18:06.</div><div><p>Are  you as crazy as she is? It IS the republican party that has messed up  this Country over the last 8 yrs. We may not get out of this mess we  are in. Take your head out of the sand. Obama IS the best selection  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-142"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-142">Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by  Leo (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 17:17.</div><div><p>Mrs.  Palin is much more qualified to be President than Obama who has done  absolutely nothing but organize thugs in ACORN! She could save this  Country from Socialism and all the corruption the Democrats are up to.  He is not capable of telling the truth and Hollywood and the Media are  doing their best to cover for him. He is not qualified to be a Senator  and should be on trial for treason.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-141"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-141">Pailin </a></div><div> Submitted by GE Mayer (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 16:53.</div><div><p>Not  only is Palin not qualified to be Vice President much less President, I  am incensed, that John McCain would insult my intellegence by picking  such a &#8220;newby&#8221; above several well qualified, experienced women who have  served the country and the Republican party.<br
/> I expect my Comander in Chief to Carefully sellect an individual more  qualified than him/herself to take over. It shows John&#8217;s thinking.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-140"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-140">Palin?  Presidential material?  No, doggone it!</a></div><div> Submitted by Krissi (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:35.</div><div><p>While  I admire Sarah Palin&#8217;s spunk and determination, I think that she is  completely out of her league as not only a vice president but also a  president. If people would take a good look at her record, they&#8217;d see  that she doesn&#8217;t even have a good grasp of the issues.</p><p>In addition, she&#8217;s been caught in numerous lies and distortions. For  example, she did not sell a jet on eBay &#8212; she tried but failed; the  jet was sold later to a private buyer. She did not leave the town of  Wasilla financially sound; she left it in debt. She says she;ll be a  strong supporter of kids with needs. In truth, Palin actually slashed  funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%.</p><p>And her famous, &#8220;I told the Congress &#8220;thanks, but no thanks,&#8221; for  that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we&#8217;d build it  ourselves&#8221; line? More spin. Congress&#8217; requirement that funds be spent  on that bridge (aka the &#8216;earmark&#8217;) were removed before Sarah Palin  became governor. She was, therefore, in no position to tell Congress  anything about the bridge, one way or the other. During her campaign,  she said she supported funding for the bridge.</p><p>There are more examples, of the fibs and many examples of her poor  insight into our nation&#8217;s problems. I could list them all, but I  encourage you to do your own homework (forwarded emails DO NO COUNT)!</p><p>If MCCain and Palin win this election, I&#8217;ll probably be hoping for a lengthy, overseas assignment &#8212; maybe four years or more!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/140">reply</a></li><li><a
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id="comment-139"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-139">Palin is Failin</a></div><div> Submitted by GA for Brains in the White House (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:02.</div><div><p>W &#8211; below C student<br
/> McCain &#8211; at the bottom of his class<br
/> Are we really electing the best? Shouldn&#8217;t we elect someone better than  we are? And someone not ready for the assisted living home? Someone who  can remember the name of his opponent instead of calling him &#8220;that  one&#8221;. McCain left right away after the debate &#8211; seniors do go to bed  early, probably past his bedtime. As for integrity, check out McCain&#8217;s  involvement in the S&#038;L bailout, he was right there along side W&#8217;s  brother Neil. All working to steal investors&#8217; money. Just like King  Henry is doing now, rewarding his Wall St. buddies.</p><p><strong>And we wonder why this happens to us???</strong></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-138"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-138">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Ed Sherrill (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 10:49.</div><div><p>Not  only is Sarah Palin competent to become President, she is idealogically  and tempermentally better suited to be President than John McCain.  Republicans are going to be very sorry thet chose McCain over Mitt  Romney. I only pray the Democrates don&#8217;t screw up the country so bad  over the next four years that it can&#8217;t be fixed.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-136"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-136">Is she for real?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 22:13.</div><div><p>If  Joe Biden winked at the camera 5-6 times during the debate, wouldn&#8217;t we  be calling him a pervert? Come on people, get serious. Sarah Palin is a  joke &#8212; an embarrassment to Americans who take our politics &#8212; and the  plight of our country &#8212; seriously.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-134"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-134">Is Sarah Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.selfhelpdaily.com" rel="nofollow">Joi</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:34.</div><div><p>To  be sure, Sarah Palin doesn&#8217;t deserve the crucifixion the media and  entertainment world are giving her (and her family). McCain might  deserve some of it, after all &#8211; he picked her. Why? She&#8217;s female. I  admire the man completely &#8211; he is an American hero and I can&#8217;t even  begin to imagine the hell this brave man endured.</p><p>However, when it came to choose running mates, I belive Obama chose  one that was best for the country and McCain chose one (he thought) was  best for the campaign.</p><p>I THINK that he lost the race with his choice.  I KNOW he lost my vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-133"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-133">Surprising VP choice</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">olivier blanchard</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:30.</div><div><p>Hindsight  is always 20/20. Perhaps Gov. Palin&#8217;s weaknesses weren&#8217;t 100% obvious  to Sen. McCain when he picked her. (So much for due diligence, I  guess.) Did he want a dynamic, charismatic, family-friendly VP  running-mate? Of course. And she fit the bill&#8230; on the surface, at  least. But honestly, weren&#8217;t there better choices (male or female) for  the job? Competent, charismatic, appealing, worldly Republican  governors or senators? People he actually knows and trusts? 30 years in  politics, and he can&#8217;t think of a single person he has worked with who  would be a better choice for a running mate? He goes with a complete  stranger? I find that bizarre. Irresponsible, even. I just don&#8217;t get  it. There are plenty of smart, competent, experienced women in the  Republican Party who would have made a great running mate.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-132">Don&#8217;t confuse appeal with competence</a></div><div> Submitted by DBStevens (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 12:21.</div><div><p>Too  many people in this country confuse personal appeal with competence,  and make decisions based on who&#8217;s the most charming or even who&#8217;s  sexiest. Or they make decisions based on generalities such as &#8220;we need  a woman in the White House.&#8221; A COMPETENT woman in the White House would  be a great asset to this country. There is no doubt of that.</p><p>But we can&#8217;t decide the leaders of our country based on a visceral  reaction to her charm and folksy demeanor (there is a lot of doubt as  to the sincerity of that demeanor anyway&#8230;she shows signs of being  rather ruthless). During these times of uncertainty and fear, it&#8217;s  natural to want some comfort, to feel that the person leading our  country is down-to-earth and &#8220;real.&#8217; We felt good about Bush and people  like Rudy Guiliani for a short time right after 9/11. They appealed to  our emotions and need for reassurance. But that demeanor means nothing.  It&#8217;s the actions that matter, and in the time following 9/11, both Bush  and Guiliani&#8217;s true nature was revealed&#8230; incompetence and  self-serving.</p><p>Sarah Palin acts cute and has a pretty face. That&#8217;s perfect for  president of the PTA. But has not gained enough experience to be  president of a country. The job of Vice-President or President is NOT  an &#8220;on-the-job-training&#8221; type of job. Being Mayor of a tiny town in a  remote state, then Governer of that remote, sparsely populated state  (670,000, way smaller than a city like El Paso, TX) is not enough  experience to lead a country whose every move has global implications.  Palin treated the job of Governer like a telecommuting job, she worked  form her hown home for 86% of the year.</p><p>No matter how intelligent she may seem to be, no matter how  ambitious or driven she may seem, and ESPECIALLY no matter how pretty  or charming she is, she is not ready for the responsibilities of a job  like President. Without experience, without having the time to really  begin to understand the nature of national and global dealings on every  level, no matter how much coaching or guidance she would receive, Palin  would either crumble under pressure or make very bad decisions with  repercussions that could shake this country and its international  stature to the core. Or she wouldn&#8217;t act quickly enough at  all&#8230;stalling and deflecting decisions (as she does with many  questions, or with such events as the investigation dubbeed  &#8220;Troopergate&#8221;).</p><p>I also worry about the demands of her family. During times of her  family&#8217;s need, do we want someone faced with the dilemma of either  neglecting her family&#8217;s needs because of her duties as Vice-President,  or neglecting the VP duties because of her family&#8217;s needs? Neither of  those are good choices&#8230;.Sarah Palin has too many personal  responsibilities.</p><p>Palin also shows all the signs of behavior very similar to  Bush&#8217;s&#8230;including a tendency toward cronyism, abuse of power, and  self-serving decisions that flout the law.</p><p>She even mispronounces the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221; just like Bush. Certainly  that&#8217;s a small point, and that pronunciation is commonly recognized as  a sub-standard metathesis of the word, but it&#8217;s very annoying to listen  to.</p><p>So wake up American. Move your responses from your gut to your  brains, and make sure you understand the repercussions of your vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-131">I&#8217;m moving&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.andyosier.com" rel="nofollow">Andy Osier</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 10:15.</div><div><p>John  McCain himself isn&#8217;t capable of running the country; I shudder to think  of the train wreck a Palin administration would be. If they win, I&#8217;m  seriously considering a moving. How&#8217;s the January weather in Berlin,  Chris?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-130">Big State&#8230;&#8230;little experience!</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/126" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 18:11.</div><div><p>Granted, we&#8217;ve got plenty to worry about at home!<br
/> But we&#8217;re talking about a Governor of a state bordered by 2 foreign  countries, Palin is the proud NEW owner of a passport! (barely 1 year)<br
/> The world is smaller than ever and so is our standing in it. We don&#8217;t  need &#8220;a little Wasilla in Washington&#8221;. We already have a narrow minded  view of the world with our current administration.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-129">Palin for presidnet?</a></div><div> Submitted by Joyce (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>She  would call on the brightest brains in the Republican party, put them in  positions of power and support, and do her best to do the best she  could for her country. She&#8217;s an acheiver and would never accept failure  for herself. She has Condeleesa, Romneys, Huckabees and several others  who want to serve and members to help and advise her. Her history shows  that she uses support and advise to guide her towards her goals and  accomplishments. She would take the credit for it too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-128">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Allison (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:10.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-127">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:08.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-126">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:47.</div><div><p>She didn&#8217;t ride in on her &#8220;own merits&#8221; She rode in on her SEX. PERIOD.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-125">If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by RisingFromDecadence (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:17.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  the most frightening and compelling reason to not elect McCain to date.  It&#8217; clear that the choice was to win vs. what&#8217;s right for the country.  And it saddens me that with so many strong female candidates out there  McCain has landed on this choice. It speaks volumes of his lack of  sound judgement and doesn&#8217;t do justice to the feminist movement.</p><p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with &#8220;Double Standard&#8217;s&#8221; comments about  education, and intelligence vs. the &#8220;experience&#8221; of a low-population  governor. Has it somehow become a negative trait for our president to  be articulate well educated and even published?</p><p>I think its safe to now say, like every great civilization, America  has grown from it&#8217;s indestructible, can-do &#8220;adolescence,&#8221; and has  entered it&#8217;s &#8220;decadent&#8221; period of greed, fear, fat and a lack of clear  vision. America needs a president who will bring intelligence, a new  vision, and optimism so that we don&#8217;t lose the real values we&#8217;ve grown  up to believe are American such as truth, innovation, compassion,  charity and vision.</p><p>Our values as a nation should not be confused with same sex  marriages or religious agendas. I seem to remember from my grade school  social studies classes that America was born as a nation with the  purpose and promise of many freedoms. Personal choice values are not to  be mixed with National values. Growing up, this difference has been why  I&#8217;ve been so proud to be an American. In the last 8 years much has  changed. I believe that only with the leadership of Obama will we be  able to regain our credibility and our course as a nation. Most  importantly, America could be &#8220;Proud Again.&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-124">Answer the question</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ascannerbrightly.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jaz-Michael King</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 10:40.</div><div><p>As  an unbiased, unable-to-vote immigrant, can I point out that as usual,  from either of your minimalist two sides, when the question is simply  If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be  competent to be President?&#8221;, the arguments spin off to why the opponent  isn&#8217;t. Maybe that will be the next question, but like I wanted to yell  at Palin while watching the debate&#8230; answer the question posed to you.</p><p>Everyone has their weak points, and in some respects, Obama, who has  considerably more than two years in the US Senate as his experience (he  was a state senator, you know) has plenty. However, I think there&#8217;s a  good reason hockey moms and joe sixpacks don&#8217;t run. No-one wants  regular folk in charge. You all want a ruling elite no matter how much  you profess to the contrary.</p><p>There are plenty of strong, competent women on both sides of the aisle in the USA. Gov. Palin is not one of them.</p><p>She is not qualified because she is not qualified. Being as  unqualified as anyone you wish to compare her to does not make her  qualified. Her inabilty to answer a straight question makes her  unqualified. I personally believe the fact she is the kind of person  who can compete in a beauty contest makes her unqualified. And as of  today, her assertion that Obama&#8217;s political career started off in the  living room of a terrorist (all of a sudden, he&#8217;s been a politician a  lot longer than two years according to the Republicans) has pulled her  from the absurd to the surreal.</p><p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Obama seems to pander to some vaporous &#8220;change&#8221; mentality, but that wasn&#8217;t the question.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-123">Palin Unqualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous jones (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 09:16.</div><div><p>The  difference between Obama and Palin is that Obama thinks. He&#8217;s smart  enough to go to Harvard, graduate high enough in his class to be  president of the Harvard Law Review there. He&#8217;s a thinker who doesn&#8217;t  shoot from the hip. He knows the Constitution inside and out and knows  if something is just a whim to increase his own power compared to a  great idea which would help millions of people (think fairer taxes,  health insurance coverage). Palin bankrupted Wasilla which is now 23.5  MILLION dollars in debt. She has no idea of what real issues are out  there&#8212;she doesn&#8217;t have any idea of what to do in a financial  situation, a diplomatic situation or anything beyond her own home. She  shows no compassion for others who are not in her situation (religious,  financial, educational, political) and has no international experience.  We do not need another DOPE in the White House. McCain has shown very  poor judgment in choosing an under-educated (a BA is like a high school  degree these days) fool rather than a smart, intellectually  sophisticated worthy VP candidate. This is a sellout of the Democratic  process. Such a shame. But then again, McCain graduated at the bottom  of his class (894 out of 899), so what does he want with a smart second?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-122">Just because she could, does not mean she should.</a></div><div> Submitted by Bjshazam (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:34.</div><div><p>Does  it not trouble anyone who has been posting here that we have reached  this point at all? I&#8217;ve been writing draft after draft of posts here,  trying to find the right balance that won&#8217;t come across as too  ideological, or that won&#8217;t be automatically dismissed by the true  sycophants because it contains some Left or Right code word that  justifies their turning off of the brain. Can&#8217;t do it. She&#8217;s too  dangerous, and it angers me so much that we as a country have been put  in the position of having to opine about the staggering impropriety of  her selection as McCain&#8217;s running mate.</p><p>Consider:</p><p>My brother is a great guy. Smart as a whip, with what I think is  decent judgment (except for his love of the Yankees). I trust him  implicitly. So, should I be in a position to name him to, say, the  Supreme Court, I would expect no questions from anyone about his  qualifications. According to the Constitution, he is legally qualified  to be a Justice, even the Chief Justice. I already told you he is smart  and has good judgment. What else do you need to know? How dare you  question my choice or his desire to serve?</p><p>The President of the United States has a mind bogglingly huge amount  of discretion in executing the job. The president can, without  obstruction by court or Congress, lay waste to our financial system,  impede entirely the execution of justice, or unleash Armageddon. The  office of the president can disband virtually unilaterally the entirety  of the intelligence gathering power of the U.S., or focus it all on the  least secure among us &#8212; with no recourse by anyone.</p><p>Most of the time, this isn&#8217;t an issue. Regardless of your political  persuasion, we have been blessed mostly with chief executives that took  the burdens of job dead seriously. A president of the entire country,  not just those who cast the votes.</p><p>Now the bar has been set so low that we cannot figure out the right  words to describe how wrong it is for a candidate to relish the fact  that she really doesn&#8217;t understand the job the Constitution has laid  out. That this is somehow an asset to a campaign makes me ashamed for  my country.</p><p>That John McCain affirmatively foisted this train wreck upon his own  party, and possibly upon the country, is a sin for which he should  never be forgiven.</p><p>That she is considered by some to be the next face of the GOP, and a  real contender for the nomination next time around, should make my GOP  colleagues shudder and the nation weep.</p><p>I don&#8217;t want a hockey mom or joe six-pack running the country. Hell,  I don&#8217;t want anyone like me running the country. I want a president.  And she is not it.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-121">make that Palin UNQUALIFIED PERIOD</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:25.</div><div><p>Darn, brain outrunning my fingers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-120">Palin qualified period</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:22.</div><div><p>And  the mental midgets who are using that as a ruse to comment on Obama  miss the entire point. Biden IS qualified to fill in shoudl something  happen to Obama (go to smoking gun to see why that IS an issue).</p><p>Palin is a bimbo and if you do not think so, Palin supporters, then  take this simple acid test: were it Obama who made those brain dead  comments instead of Palin, what would you be saying about him? Gotcha!</p><p>jim</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-119">Palin Not Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:01.</div><div><p>Anyone  that believes that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President is kidding  themselves. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. The  fact that she is SO unqualified is what made her pick an insult to  every hard-working, intelligent woman out there. She was picked for her  good looks and her folksy charm. There were MANY more qualified women  in the ranks of the Republican party that could have been chosen.<br
/> Palin attended five different colleges before she was finally able to  stick out a degree program. She majored in journalism and  communications and couldn&#8217;t name ONE newspaper or magazine that she  reads on a regular basis. She minored in political science and doesn&#8217;t  know what the Vice President&#8217;s role and duties are in our government.  She has abused her power in every political post she has been elected  to, has lied about her record both as mayor and governor and her short  political career has been marked by scandal. She says that she fought  the energy interests in Alaska, but her campaigns have all been heavily  funded by energy companies.<br
/> In short, she&#8217;s not smart, she&#8217;s lacks integrity, she has gotten most  of what she has attained on her looks and charm and these things don&#8217;t  add up to someone who is qualified for Vice President, nevermind the  Presidency. If you want her to be your leader, move to Alaska. This  country and the world cannot afford another incompetent leader at the  helm. One more bumbling idiot at the helm will spell doom for the  future of all of the citizens of this country.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-118">qualifications.</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Crazy Politico</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 20:10.</div><div><p>If Gov. Palin isn&#8217;t qualified to &#8220;POSSIBLY&#8221; become president, then what of Barack Obama?</p><p>What exactly is his qualification for the job? A couple of  non-descript years in the Senate with no major legislation to show for  that time? A history of voting &#8220;Here&#8221; on controversial issues so as to  keep a rather neutral record when running for the next higher office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-117">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 14:49.</div><div><p>Does  she have enough political experience for the position of president? I  would say not&#8230;.. but then again, there&#8217;s nothing like a long run of a  president that can&#8217;t even string a sentence together in English to  remind you that you don&#8217;t really need much skill for the job. It&#8217;s  whose behind the president that counts no?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-116">Is Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by Thoughtful_Independent (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 11:49.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  a registered independent. I was waiting for the VP picks to be made  before making my mind up. VP&#8217;s Gore and Cheney have both illustrated  the growing importance of the VP position in the Executive Branch. The  magnitude of the nations and worlds problems highlight the fact that  the top two elected officials in the US need to have a wide range of  capabilities., strong intellect, and global perspective. At minimum,  the President needs a knowledgeable confidant and advisor he/she can  trust.</p><p>For all of her folksy charm, Governor Palin displays very little of  these qualities or qualifications. If you take the time to investigate  the educational and professional accomplishments of our sitting VP&#8217;s  over the past 50 years, even the most biased observer would conclude  that Governor Palin would be the least educated and least experienced.  If you don&#8217;t have the time to look at all of them, just compare her  against Dan Quayle who was arguably the weakest of the sitting VP&#8217;s.  Quayle&#8217;s accomplishments at the time he was selected as Bush&#8217;s running  mate dwarf Palin&#8217;s.</p><p>Upon inspection, the rabid and exaggerated claims about her energy  expertise and executive experience vaporize (the claims of foreign  policy experience are not even a valid topic). Living in an oil rich  state, shuffling petrodollars from the oil companies to the citizens in  the form of dividends, &#8220;negotiating&#8221; potential terms of a yet unplanned  and unfunded natural gas pipeline, and a college degree in journalism  do not qualify one as an energy expert.</p><p>Furthermore, the role of Governor of Alaska is diminished in  complexity compared to the Governors of the lower 48 due to factors  such as: 1) very small population (the whole state has a population  smaller than typical medium sized US cities), 2) the largest Alaskan  cities are smaller than many small ciities or large towns in the lower  48 (Anchorage = ~280K, Fairbanks = ~35K, Juneau = ~35K), 3) low  industrial output (Alaska is ranked near the bottom compared to the  other 50 states), and 4) a budget which is majority funded by revenues  from oil and gas companies. The hardest problem of the Alaskan governor  appears to be deciding how much money to send from the Permanent Fund  to the citizens versus how much to stash away for a future time when  oil revenues begin declining.</p><p>I find the argument that Palin has more &#8220;executive experience&#8221; than  McCain, Obama or Biden to be disingenuous. If executive experience is  really so important, Mitt Romney should be the Republican candidate for  President or, at minimum, the VP candidate. While I was not a huge fan  of Mr. Romney, his skillset is so superior to Palin&#8217;s that comparisons  are impossible. The same can be said with respect to experience in  matters of the economy. Ironically, Mr. Romney&#8217;s biggest shortcoming  appeared to be that he was a Washington outsider. Now being from our  most remote state is a strength for Palin?</p><p>My perspective is that the most successful Presidents of the last 50  years (for arguments sake Eisenhower, Reagan and Clinton) were able to  balance their core idealogical positions with advocacy for programs and  policies that improved the situation for the majority of US citizens  and improved our stature in the global community. Each of these  Presidents had well educated and highly skilled running mates. As an  Independent who holds a blend of conservative and liberal positions,  this mix is what I am weighing the most. My assessment is that  Obama/Biden have a better overall leadership/intelligence/world view  profile than McCain/Palin. McCain could have selected a male or female  running mate who would have tilted my assessment in his favor.  Unfortunately, for reasons only he and his advisors can comprehend, he  went with a female ideologue with weak academic, intellectual and  professional skills.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-115">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 06:15.</div><div><p>@  CanIGet2NewZealand</p><p>What does it take to satisfy people like you?<br
/> or&#8230; is this a display of jealousy ? Ms Palin does make a rather  impressive appearance on a simple &#8216;ride in from the Wilds of Alaska&#8217;.<br
/> Instead of complimenting a person on a job well done you prefer to show the &#8220;cat fight&#8221; attitude.<br
/> What has Obama more than Palin?</p><p>If Obama had been a white boy from Illinois, would he have received  the nomination of the Dem Party? If your answer is NO _ then you must  vote for Palin for she rode in on her own merits not on her skin color!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-114">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb" rel="nofollow">REB 84</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 00:35.</div><div><p>Would John McCain be a competent president?  This is a question you should be asking.<br
/> <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb/2008/09/which-is-real-mccain.html"> QuestionItNow &#8211; Will America lead?</a></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-113">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by CanIGet2NewZealand (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Palin has been governor of a state with the population of Poughkeepsie, New York .</p><p>The State of Alaska, despite its conservative appearance has been  giving out money to its citizens from its oil dividens (Alaska  Permanent Fund) (<a
href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style" title="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style">http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style</a>)  since the 1970&#8242;s. The money Palin boasts about giving her citizens is  money of this sort, the citizens of Alaska have been receiving these  payments for almost 40 years. How can she use these payments as part of  a discussion of her fiscal capabilities as Governor?</p><p>Governor Palin impresses me as being a cross between a Barbie Doll  and that really annoying head cheerleader that the intelligent girls  all could not stand in highschool.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-112">Palin was a mistake for McCain in the 1st Place</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/people/FranklinB?view=documents&#038;viewingAsOthers=true" rel="nofollow">FranklinB</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>I  have been publishing my thoughts on this matter for awhile now  regarding the selection of Sarah Palin for VP. I gave my views on her  initial selection here:</p><p>Did John McCain have good judgement?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is not my Vice President<br
/> <a
href="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179" title="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179">http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is just another pretty face<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323</a></p><p>McCain will have to pick a new VP<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699</a></p><p>VP Debate was great, for Biden and Obama<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625</a></p><p>Overall I agree that McCain is kind of a maverick, but also he is a  big gambler. Instead of picking one of the most qualified in the arena,  he went outside to a relatively unknown woman who he knew could  energize the base. That has happened, but with such obvious liabilities  that only a pure conservative will think she is qualified, because pure  conservatives don&#8217;t care who is in that position as long as that person  is republican, conservative and can walk &#038; talk. Hannity has said  publicly that he believes she would be qualified to fill the top job,  and so did Limbaugh as well. I got yelled at the other day by one of my  very oldest and best friends who couldn&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t think she  was for real. That was before the Couric interview. Now after the  debate I know I have made the right choice with Obama and Biden. The  financial collapse is bad enough, but if there was a President Palin  someday, it could be an even worse disaster for our country.</p><p>Obama and Biden are consistant in their positions on the Iraq war  and other matters regarding the need to help the middle class. I  believe McCain has no interest in the working class folks in this  country, and even if Palin does have that interest, she is not  knowledgeable enough to make any difference. JMHO</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-111">You&#8217;re Kidding, right?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://onthebloc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Shelly Roberts</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 14:04.</div><div><p>Sarah  Pallin is an embarrassment to the Republican Party, who may well be  qualified to run for PTA vice president, but hardly for the  heart-beat-away position of Vice President of the United States.</p><p>In the debate with Sen. Bieden Palin spoke repeatedly an d stiltedly  from obviousy drilled-in talking points rather than from any  appropriate knowledge. With a wooden, albeit cheerful presentation  worthy of earning her the title of Best Stepford Candidate.</p><p>Palin&#8217;s presentation was a constant one-note, praise-singing  golly/gee campaign advertiisement for John McCain, and did litttle if  anything to present any viable credentials as a candidate for the high  office into which she has been so thoughtlessly thrust.</p><p>I&#8217;d pity her for the position for which she has been recruited if  the holder of that position didn&#8217;t stand such a strong chance of  becoming the leader of the free world with a 79 year old unhealthy  running mate &#8211;shudder&#8211; a horrifying thought.</p><p>It shouldn&#8217;t be enough merely that she didn&#8217;t panic, screw up or cry  to qualify her as even a contender in the so-called debate. I have some  issues with Mr. Bidden as well, but at least he came across as someone  who has done more than simply look west and north in the direction of  the former Soviet Union, and self-pronounce a competency in foreign  affairs. That&#8217;s way too much like watching Animal Planet and  proclaiming veterinary competence with elephants.</p><p>Did Sarah win the debate?  She wasn&#8217;t ever even qualified to enter the race.</p><p>Is she qualified to be President regardless of the state of John McCain&#8217;s health?  You&#8217;re kidding, right?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-110">Dummy be gone! THINK!</a></div><div> Submitted by Skillet Marimba (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 11:27.</div><div><p>The G.O.P. targets DUMMYS but DUMMYS are finally starting to wake up. Dummy be gone.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-108">If McCain Died, Is Sarah Palin Qualified To Lead This Nation?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://legalconsulting.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obama-biden-a-winning-ticketbut-obama-clinton-a-landslide-victory/" rel="nofollow">Patrick Pearce</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:33.</div><div><p>Let  me first establish that I am not hopping on any band waggon here to  vilify or demonize Sarah Palin because she is a woman. My argument is  limited to choice. Based on both Vice Presidential Candidates, Sarah  Palin and Joe Biden of the Republican and Democratic Party  respectively, should one of these men (Whether Obama or McCain) died or  become incapacitated as President of the United States, and  constitutionally the Vice President is next in line to assume the  presidency, I unequivocally would trust the experience of Joe Biden to  lead this great Nation over Sarah Palin. I am sure I share the same  views as most sensible Americans. I used to hear that John McCain was a  stubborn man, I am now convinced. There are so many more experience and  viable Republicans out there to be VP, why did he chose Sarah Palin? If  only some of these potentially great men would listen to somebody  instead of arrogating to themselves because of ego, they would be such  great leaders. Obama-Biden victory in November, hands down! See my  recent post at: <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-107">Palin Better than Most</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thescoundrel.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">thescoundrel</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:21.</div><div><p>I  tend to disbelieve anything that comes out of any politicians mouth.  Politicians are liars&#038; cheats. While they are kissing your baby  they are picking your pocket at the same time. The President&#8217;s Job is  limited. The Congress is where most of the power in this country lies.  They make legislation, they pass legislation and even if the President  vetoes that legislation, they have the power to override it. A relative  rookie politician, Palin, actually has more executive experience than  McCain, Biden or Obama. Now that is scary since she is merely a VP  nominee. I would vote for her over Obama or Biden. She has a limited  track track record of what Obama/Biden pretends to have without any  track record to prove their claims: Palin has shown the grit to fight  her own party as governor of Alaska. Obama has shown me nothing for the  time he was in my state of Illinois government or once he was elected  Senator. He was no more than a puppet to Emile Jones that is the strong  arm thug of DEmocrat Gov. Governor Blagodabitch, the soon to be cell  mate of ex Republican Gov. George Ryan. So yeah I would trust Palin  much further than I would Obama leading this nation. Obama only  understands Chicago and Springfield style corruption which he was a  part of.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-106">If John McCain died&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Pat Baker (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 08:21.</div><div><p>To Anonymous:<br
/> I have been hollering &#8220;Double Standard&#8221; all summer&#8221;. You hit the nail  on the spot. When Obama was trained by the late great Saul Alinsky  &#038; his staff to learn how to be a better community activist, take  surveys, housing problems, school problems in the poor Chicago  districts, Palin sneered at the his outcomings, stating all those  programs arenow defunct. Her ignorance is bliss. Reason: Viet Nam war,  &#038; the 60&#8242;s riots cost us plenty At least Obama was vetted. Some  pundits t laughed him. I too, was trained by Alinsky, this great Jewish  community consultant for the poor back in the late 60&#8242;s. If Palin was  crossed examined by a Judge/Atty she would simply say I will only  answer the questions I wish to reply to. My people call it &#8220;double  standard&#8221;. Thanks, Anonymous for reminding me that I don&#8217;t need on the  job training vp by McCain/Palin ticket.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-104">my vote</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.squidoo.com/leanandripped" rel="nofollow">joe</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:35.</div><div><p>Ihave  no faith or trust in any politition, democrat or republican, they all  end up shafting the middle class in the end,She will be no better or  worse than the rest of the lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-103">This Election is More Irritating than Usual</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:26.</div><div><p>Why  do people feel someone who has been a Senator for 2 years is more  qualified to be President than in the unlikely event McCain has to be  replaced by Govenor Palin??? The other thing that keeps being over  looked is Nancy Pelosi has been two heartbeats away from President??  She is qualified?? Unfortunately, people are being too influenced by  the media and not doing there own research. Quit using the medias  opinions and form your own. Do some real research. Somethinf fun to do  is go to <a
href="http://abcnews.go.com/politics" title="http://abcnews.go.com/politics">http://abcnews.go.com/politics</a> scroll down to the Match-o-Matic II  game.  It is ver interesting.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-102">Does Being Governor Make Governor Palin Qalified?</a></div><div> Submitted by artbcpa (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 01:54.</div><div><p>In  &#8220;Third Out of Four&#8221; the commentator points out that Clinton and Reagan  were both Governors before becoming President. We shouldn&#8217;t forget that  Jimmy Carter was also a Governor before becoming the most incompetent  president in the history of the United Staetes. He also may have been  among the academically brightest of all recent Presidents. What does  all that tell us?. &#8230;NOTHING.</p><p>Whether Sarah Palin was a Governor or Barack Obama was at the top of  his academic class does not ensure that either will or will not do a  good job in their respective positions.</p><p>We need to make our decision based on factors more likely to lead to  a successful Presidency. After eight years of the most secretive,  nontransparent Presidency in history, we need someone who will instill  trust in the institution of the Presidency and restore confidence in  the people of the country.</p><p>We had several such Presidents in the prior century &#8211; Franklin  Roosevelt, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan. Each had a vision for the  country which was clearly articulated and embraced by the people. In a  choice between the idealistic Barack Obama and the wily curmudgeon,  John McCain, Barack Obama is clearly the choice of what this country  needs at this time in history.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-101">Palin is not our woman.</a></div><div> Submitted by Pam (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:59.</div><div><p>I  know that I do not want Palin. I know that I don’t want her anywhere  near our foreign policy. I know that I don’t like what she said in the  debate about ‘expanding’ the role of vice president. I know that I  don’t like her far right, religious views that can impact the world in  a bunch of ways that I don’t like.</p><p>There are other things I don’t like about her, though, I can’t say I  am completely sure about my reasoning. I don’t like her winks and her  nods. I don’t like how she talks to us like children.</p><p>I question my own opinion about these things, as I am not sure if I  know what I want or expect in a female politician. It’s a very  important thing. This first woman. This example of all of us. This  person in whom I place so much of my future and that of my daughters.  Hmmm, too much pressure?!?</p><p>Do I want her to be more of a man than any of the men at the table?  Competing in the same way as men, but climbing the ladder in stilettos?  Or do I want her to be the nurturing female that gets things done  without men being any the wiser? With charm and feminine wiles that  could will men to do what they might not have done, otherwise?</p><p>I thought, when considering Hillary, that I didn’t want a woman  President who had a husband that is a former President. My sister then  pointed out that we might not consider too many women that did not have  such a sense of the White House.</p><p>It’s difficult. These women, up for consideration, don’t have  military backgrounds. Yet, she would be responsible for ‘pushing the  button’ and/or ending a war.</p><p>I guess, even if I did not have a problem with her foreign presence,  her religious intent or her understanding of the role she was about to  take on, I would still have an issue to deal with.</p><p>So, I don’t like Sarah, but, who do I like?  And, the bigger question for me, why?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-100">Re: Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by FD (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:24.</div><div><p>To King of Chatalot: I&#8217;m an independant, but I voted once and the poll will not allow me to vote again.<br
/> The only way someone could vote twice is through a proxy, but I tested that idea fater reading your comment.<br
/> It didn&#8217;t work.<br
/> I tried several different proxies, I reset my ip, and nope, it would not allow me to vote again.</p><p>Take off the tin foil hat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-99">Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.chatalot.net" rel="nofollow">King of Chatalot</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 22:11.</div><div><p>I  find it amazing that Democrats would stoop so low as to make multiple  votes in this silly poll just to bend the outcome towards their way of  thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..so to make it appear as if they are the  winners&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>&#8230;but then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;considering that they will ultimately lose in November I&#8217;m not totally surprised&#8230;&#8230;..</p><p>&#8230;..merely amazed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-98">Palin&#8217;s hand on the &#8220;Nukular&#8221; button? </a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mediaconcepts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Media Concepts</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 21:39.</div><div><p>I  can&#8217;t decide whether that&#8217;s hilarious, or horrifyingly frightening. I  think it&#8217;s both. Based on McCain&#8217;s age alone, historian Doris Kearns  Goodwin says that there&#8217;s almost a one in three chance that McCain  would die in office were he to be elected. Factor in his FOUR bouts of  Melanoma, which is often fatal regardless of the victim&#8217;s age, and  those odds increase markedly.</p><p>Something to think about.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-97">It&#8217;s about leadership</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://politicalvindication.com" rel="nofollow">Shane from PV</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:30.</div><div><p>The  presidency is about leadership, and if we can survive eight years being  led by an Arkansas governor who would rather molest the hired help than  pay attention to what Osama Bin Laden is doing, then America will do  just fine with a President Sarah Palin. She certainly has more  leadership experience than her opponents. Does that mean I would have  made her my choice for VP? I would have loved to see Mitt Romney as VP,  but she&#8217;s smart, focused, and knows how to lead. The important  question, if she should ever end up in the Oval Office, would be who  she surrounds herself with. That&#8217;s another reason why Obama would be  very scary as president. He has terrible judgment, and considering the  people he has surrounded himself with throughout his life, and the fact  that as president he will have to decide what advice to act on when it  comes to important issues &#8211; I don&#8217;t trust him to be able to distinguish  from among a bevy of poor advisers the advice least damaging.</p><p>Obama supporters, like so many on this comment board, have no idea  who Obama really is &#8211; frankly, no one does. Obama has locked up his  records, is protected by a compliant press, and says only what he  thinks Americans want to hear. He&#8217;s a charlatan, but his supporters  don&#8217;t care. <em>That&#8217;s why this question is so ironic.</em> They hate  Bush/Republicans/conservatives more than they fear the inexperience of  their presidential candidate and manchild Barack Obama. The derangement  of the left has led them to support and oppose issues not because they  want to protect their country or improve the lives of Americans, but  because they hate their adversaries and will do or say anything to beat  them (the &#8220;this war is lost&#8221; quote by Harry Reid comes to mind &#8211; how  incredibly telling). I think this frothing derangement will cause them  to self-destruct again as they did in 2000 and 2004, where Americans  got a good look at the mindless bitterness and spite that inspires the  left. McCain will win in a squeaker.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-96">Palin is more qualified than most&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Greg (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:24.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a big political kind of guy nor do I follow many campaigns. I voted  for a democrat and a republican for president; the best person for the  job always gets my vote. But this is the first time in a long time that  I&#8217;ve seen an honest person make it this far in politics. Usually they  get creamed by the media &#8211; Palin is still holding her own. What you see  is what you get &#8211; nice change of pace especially since I&#8217;m originally  from Delaware. No doubt this isn&#8217;t true for Biden &#8211; he&#8217;s all over the  place telling you whatever it is you want to hear whenever you want to  hear it.. I don&#8217;t dislike Biden and yes, he is qualified to continue  the same old Washington politics; not what I&#8217;m looking for this year at  least.</p><p>I&#8217;m still wondering why Obama thinks Biden represents change? Not even close.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-95">Sarah Palin&#8217;s much sharper than Obama or Biden</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.morethings.com" rel="nofollow">Al Barger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:08.</div><div><p>Not  to put too fine a point on it, Sarah Palin&#8217;s the sharpest person of the  four here. People I think get that when they get a good look at her as  in her famous nomination speech or last night&#8217;s vice presidential  debate.</p><p>Of course, this ain&#8217;t from lack of media attempts to Quayle-ize her.  Look at the double, triple, quadruple standards. It&#8217;s supposedly some  proof that she&#8217;s a moron that she didn&#8217;t choose to spit up a list of  newspapers she reads for Katie Couric.</p><p>But Joe Biden says the most ignorant nonsense day after day, and it  doesn&#8217;t make the news. When the current financial meltdown started a  few weeks ago, Biden was out criticizing Bush reaction. See, when the  1929 market crash happened, FDR when on television to show people that  he was involved and doing something. FDR wasn&#8217;t president, and there  was no television then. This nonsense didn&#8217;t make the news. Imagine if  Palin said something that stupid.<br
/> =====================================<br
/> Little known Palin fact:<br
/> FACT: Having run out of ammunition during a hunting trip, Sarah Palin  once took down a moose using a beauty pageant tiara as a boomerang.</p><p>More Palin fun facts I just made up, and a couple hundred pictures of our girl<br
/> <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-94">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Robert (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:00.</div><div><p>Joe Biden, VP  (Vice and Plagiarist)</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-93">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ethel W (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:50.</div><div><p>Obama has done much good thru working for ACORN.  Remember, from tiny acorns, might oak trees grow.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-92">Barack&#8217;s leadership skills in government?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:43.</div><div><p>Please folks &#8211; give us an example.  And please, make it a good one.</p><p>If this were an election for Student Body President, I might vote  for the dude, but he&#8217;s applying to be the Leader of the United States  of America. Is there anything in his governmental experience that  indicates that he can be a great leader? Anything?</p><p>This ain&#8217;t no popularity contest&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-91">Palin as Prez? No Way</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://janetleejohnson.com" rel="nofollow">Janet Johnson</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  tired of Sarah Palin. I&#8217;m tired of kicking her around, of waiting for  her to have a public brain freeze, of hearing her droppin&#8217; g&#8217;s and  bringing nuc-u-lur back into the lexicon (I hope we&#8217;re almost finished  with that coming out of the White House).</p><p>At the same time, I&#8217;m proud that she&#8217;s the second legitimate woman  who&#8217;s a running mate on a presidential ticket, the first to &#8220;electrify&#8221;  a country. I&#8217;m mortified as I write that, but I&#8217;m proud of that big ol&#8217;  crack in the glass ceilin&#8217; she&#8217;s added to Hilary&#8217;s 18 million others.  (sigh)</p><p>As most of your poll-takers agree, no way is she qualified to be president. God help us all if she&#8217;s a heartbeat away.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-90">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Stevie (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:35.</div><div><p>Do  I feel that a citizen of this country who has not kept abreast of the  foreign policy situations, and the current administration doctrines is  qualified to step in as head of state in an emergency? No&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who will terminate people who disagree with her is worthy to be in the White House? No&#8230;&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who feels that because she is a woman she should  be treated with deference in a television interview should be leading a  country? No&#8230;..<br
/> Does a cram session with various political pundits counteract her  inacurate knowledge of what life is like for the rest of us in the  lower 48? No&#8230;&#8230;<br
/> Does this woman have the ability to gain respect of various world  leaders particularly those from countries where women are considered to  be less than equal? no.<br
/> what we really need is a Margaret Thatcher type.. the closest we have is Hilary Clinton.<br
/> Anita Palin is no Hilary Clinton<br
/> And being a POW and being in the Vietnam War does not make you the  right person to be president either. There are plenty of Vietnam Vets  and others who were POW&#8217;s .. and they aren&#8217;t running for President&#8211;  though John Kerry did.. and he wasn&#8217;t a POW.. he served his country.  Don&#8217;t bank on that one being the ACE..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-89">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:29.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would want his friend Tony Rezko to advise him on ethics in government.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-88">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would like William Ayers for his Secretary of Defense, since he knows how to blow things up.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-87">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:25.</div><div><p>Maybe  Obama can install Rev. Wright as Secretary of State. All the other  nations of the world will love his philosophy: God damn America!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-86">Re: amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:23.</div><div><p>I  think where the logic breaks down is that you&#8217;re assuming all  Governor&#8217;s are created equally. An American Governor&#8217;s principal job is  running the state, and to be honest, I&#8217;m not sure how good a governor  she is, but thats for the people of Alaska to decide. But as an  American, I feel that she&#8217;s dangerously ignorant of world affairs and  issues around a global economy.</p><p>And frankly, I think we&#8217;ve had enough of that already.</p><p>On the other hand, Obama and Biden are far more savvy. If you  watched the debate, you&#8217;ll have noticed how rarely Palin answers a  direct question. She&#8217;s not dumb, but she&#8217;s not worldly either. And  worse, she revels in her inexperience.</p><p>If she ever gets into the Presidential office, you might just wish  for the good ol days when GW was in charge. And if that doesn&#8217;t scare  you, it should.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-85">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:21.</div><div><p>Don&#8217;t you love it when a public relations man calls people degrading, hateful names?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-84">That is just dumb</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:16.</div><div><p>You  and your swill slinging dopes really should stop. Aside from Billy Bobs  missing teeth with Confederate Flags in their pickups, Americans  understand that Senator Obama is as American as you or I.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-83">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:15.</div><div><p>Someone  commented on here that we live in a Global society and therefore need  Obama. Folks, this world is getting so screwy and dangerous, that is  exactly why we do NOT need a post-modern green horn such as Obama as  POTUS. All the pie in the sky he professes is absolutely meaningless  without solid, tough, and REAL national security. Somehow, grandiose  social programs lose their luster when you have a nuclear missile up  your ass.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-82">double standard</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.madeinhead.org" rel="nofollow">Jason Preston</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:12.</div><div><p>Palin  took five tries and five years to get a journalism degree at  undistinguished schools, and managed to be an undistinguished student  at all four schools involved in her quest for a chance to be a TV  reporter. Obama was at the top of his class at every step of his  collegiate journey. When pressed three times to answer, Palin cannot  name a single existing newspaper or news magazine that she reads. If  you can&#8217;t see the difference here, perhaps you&#8217;re not an ideal student  or intellect either, but only through pride does a person lacking in a  certain virtue seek to exalt that lack. Just because I&#8217;m not tall  enough to slam dunk doesn&#8217;t mean I push for the NBA to hire more short  people! The Presidency&#8217;s the hardest job in the world, or one of them.  Stellar intellect, stellar ethics, and stellar success in life should  all be ironclad prerequisites to the job. If Palin is qualified to be  President, I am twice as qualified and will expect Palin fans&#8217; votes  when I make my run for high office.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-81">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Cowboy X (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:10.</div><div><p>Who  is qualified to be the President? There is no class to take to become  certified. We have to put our trust in a person. I wish that person  were Ron Paul!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-80">amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:00.</div><div><p>So  75% believe Palin cant be president in case something happens to  McCain. So I guess its OK to be an inexperienced presidential  candidate, but if your a vice presidential candidate who has actually  run a state, you don&#8217;t qualify. The logic here escapes me completely.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-79">Sarah Palin: Unfiltered</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.petitiononline.com/CBSPALIN/petition.html" rel="nofollow">John Schuller</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:50.</div><div><p>CLICK ON MY NAME TO SIGN THIS PETITION</p><p>To:  CBS News</p><p>Sarah Palin herself has requested to speak to America without the  Media Filter in the Vice Presidential debate. ?I like being able to  answer tough questions without the filter of the mainstream media  telling the American people what they just heard,? she said in her  closing.</p><p>The people of the United States of America deserve to see the CBS Katie Couric interviews with Sarah Palin in their entirety.</p><p>This should be acceptable by Republicans and Democrats as it will  let Sarah Palin talk to America without the filter created by editing  and leaving important information on the cutting room floor.</p><p>Let us see an edition of &#8220;Sarah Palin: Unfiltered&#8221;.</p><p>This will allow Americans to see the real Sarah Palin.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>The Undersigned</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-78">Seriously&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://newyorkmomentsblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">newyorkmoments</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:49.</div><div><p>regardless  of the VP candidates&#8230;are we really going to vote in a Hussein????  Seriously?? I&#8217;m saddened that I&#8217;m not going to be able to vote Democrat  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-77">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:43.</div><div><p>I  sent John McCain a $1000 in September 2007&#8230;when his campaign was  flailing. I believed his voice needed to be in the debate. Until Sarah  Palin&#8217;s acceptance speech I did not send a penny to any other  candidate.</p><p>I was so outraged by the poor judgment demonstrated by McCain &#8212;  there were thousands, if not tens of thousands, of more capable,  competent men and women who could serve as his VP. I promptly sent a  large contribution to Obama. And with every solicitation letter I  receive from John McCain (they arrive daily), I write to ask for my  money back.</p><p>Whether &#8220;Joe six-pack&#8221; likes it or not&#8230;we live in a Global  Society, not an igloo nation. We already had Joe-six pack from  President for the last 8 years. Doesn&#8217;t any one remember &#8211; &#8220;George W.  Bush is the guy I want to have at my BBQ&#8221;???&#8230;Well &#8211; we got him&#8211; only  we got bbq&#8217;d.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-76">Re: Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Eric (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:35.</div><div><p>Would it be so much to ask for a Presidential nominee who actually had some experience?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-75">Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.liesdamnedlies.com" rel="nofollow">Ian Thomas</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:32.</div><div><p>&#8230;for a VP nominee who actually had some experience *before* she takes office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-74">Third out of four</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:30.</div><div><p>Stack  rank all four candidates &#8212; Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin &#8212; in terms  of experience, and she comes out 3rd out of 4. Obama is last.</p><p>Stack rank all four candidates in terms of executive experience &#8212;  meaning, &#8216;has the candidate ever managed a budget before, had headcount  before, and had to make decisions as opposed to provide advice&#8217; &#8212; and  she incredibly comes out first amongst the four, as she&#8217;s been both  governor and mayor.</p><p>Being the governor of a state was good enough for Clinton, good enough for Romney, and good enough for Reagan.</p><p>Those who attack her experience must feel terrible that Obama is the  leading candidate for the Dem&#8217;s, given his extraordinarily thin resume.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-73">If Barack Doesn&#8217;t Die, Is He Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:29.</div><div><p>Be  honest, folks. In his career in *government*, not running a campaign,  has he ever demonstrated outstanding leadership or executive skills?  Sarah certainly has, but her experience may nonetheless be too light.</p><p>Barack Obama has the least leadership or executive skills of *any* of the major candidates for president or vice president.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-72">Not a fan, but c&#8217;mon</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:21.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a Sarah fan, but she has a solid foundation &#8212; an ability to  connect with men and women, powerfully deliver her messages and ramp up  quickly on complex subjects. The actuaries estimate that there is a 75%  chance that Mr. McCain would survive a first term. Presumably, the  chances of him passing in the first YEAR would be very small. So the  real question would be &#8212; If Sarah Palin had at least a year as Vice  President under her belt, would she be competent to be President if  John McCain were to be incapacitated? I don&#8217;t have any doubt that she  would. I will not be voting for the GOP ticket, but the fear mongering  about Ms. Palin&#8217;s ability is baseless and perhaps sexist.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-71">To Pat Baker,  Actually, she</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:01.</div><div><p>To Pat Baker,<br
/> Actually, she has NOT been governor for a few years. She has been a  governor since 2007, she won the election at the END of 2006. So, not  even 2 years yet.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-70">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:58.</div><div><p>When  a lot of people say she was put in the VP nominee ticket because she  would shake things up for the Republican party, that&#8217;s scary. Why was  that the first and foremost reason why she was picked?!</p><p>We are not running a popularity contest here for god&#8217;s sake. We need  a leader, a WORLD LEADER that will get American back into the  respectful country it is amongst other nations in this world. Not a PTA  mom who claims she can juggle 5 kids when in fact her nanny, chef,  driver/pilot, gardener and 20 other staffers take care of the Mom role  for her. I&#8217;m all for the &#8220;women can do the same if not better job than  men&#8221; ideal, but come on, she isn&#8217;t even up to par on her events and  history. When you can only make punch points and be a talking head,  that is NOT a leader. She can&#8217;t even name ONE supreme court decision  other than Row vs. Wade. And being able to see Russia from Alaska does  not qualify as foreign experience. We do not need and DO NOT want an  average Joe or Jane to be our president or vice president.</p><p>It is scary when our (by that I mean the republicans) expectations have sunk so low.</p><p>And it&#8217;s even more scary when people are voting for republican  SIMPLY because she&#8217;s pro-life, even for those women who were victims of  rape or incest would NOT get a choice. That alone, to me, is hugely  undermining the equality so many women have worked so hard for so many  years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-69">Sarah Palin Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://cashflowtipsbydon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Don S</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:54.</div><div><p>Maybe  the most appropriate question is . . . if Barack Obama is elected  president, whether or not John McCain dies, is he qualified to lead the  country?</p><p>Being a governor is a proven road to the White House. Alaska is a  strategic state. Let&#8217;s see: Clinton was from Arkansas &#8212; even less  strategic, Carter from Georgia and Reagan from California . . . Bush  from Texas . . . oh, sure, I saw a post on the Huffington Post this  week that said &#8220;Bush is intellectually challenged.&#8221; Of course, there  was no evidence to support the claim.</p><p>Obama is currently more likely to become president than Sarah Palin  and that&#8217;s something that should concern all clear-thinking Americans.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-68">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Jerome Schindler (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:53.</div><div><p>How  could she possibly be any worse that what we have been subjected to  recently. I am sure Harry Truman&#8217;s skills woudl also have been panned.  McCain ought to be a good choice as nobody has been sure what party he  belongs to for many years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-67">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Bill Platt (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:45.</div><div><p>Deluded?  Although she has as much or more experience than Obama, you are willing  to suggest that my delusion is that she could not be President, but  Obama can be?</p><p>The only delusion is that Obama&#8217;s experience is greater than hers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-66">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:31.</div><div><p>Palin is absolutely not qualified &#8211; anyone who thinks so is deluded.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-65">Re: pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:29.</div><div><p>The point was she won&#8217;t take no crap.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-64">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:27.</div><div><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p><p>Then James they should do the same before becoming parents. Maybe  then we won&#8217;t have so many libetards. Bunch of whiners don&#8217;t know a  good thing when it slaps them upside the head.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-63">Re: Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:26.</div><div><p>As  a Vietnam veteran I can assure you that sad fact by itself (yeah, we  lost a war we had no business being in) does not qualify anyone to be  President. While I respect McCain&#8217;s service to his country McCain  himself has admitted that he collaborated with the enemy and signed  documents condemning America&#8217;s.bombing of Hanoi as being war crimes.</p><p>As at the time we were carpet bombing a densely populated Hanoi with  low level B-52 bombing runs, the North Vietnamese perhaps had a point  that a stressed out and in terrible pain McCain decided to agree with.</p><p>Not that I blame him. Fortunately, my POW camp experience was  limited to a combat training exercise at Camp Lejeune, N.C. It was only  for a very long day but that was enough to make brave grown men trained  for combat by battle hardened US Marines cry out in pain. McCain&#8217;s  experience had to be horrible and I&#8217;m sure that the scars, mental and  physical, must still be with him.</p><p>However, I wasn&#8217;t referring to McCain other than his grandstanding  poor judgement in selecting Governor Palin as his running mate. Sarah  may be a swell gal, certainly her down home nature appeals to a lot of  down home people across America, but please, qualified to perhaps have  to step into the President&#8217;s role?</p><p>She is a little league player suddenly thrown into the major  leagues. I admire her spunk but fear her aggressive claim that she is  ready to serve when she can&#8217;t even handle soft ball interviews. Who  wants a President just like an average Joe? In case you haven&#8217;t noticed  there are very complicated problems that America faces that will  require outstanding leadership to solve.</p><p>I&#8217;m not a big Obama fan either but at least the man has first class  intelligence and a first class temperament. He doesn&#8217;t tend to shoot  from the hip or fire, ready, aim like old fighter pilots are apt to do.  Palin was a choice designed to fire up the Republican Party&#8217;s  conservative base and in that the move was successful. But at what risk  to the country if McCain and Palin are elected?</p><p>With the odds being about one in four that a 72 year old cancer  survivor would not make it another four years a President Palin is a  frightening possibility.</p><p>That&#8217;s putting country first? Please! Give me a break.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-61">Re: Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by ldaught2 (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:16.</div><div><p>//Until then, keep reading all the world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.//</p><p>Are you kidding?? what can a bias newspaper and magazine teach??  (and that would be all of them)That is the most idiot statement I have  read!</p><p>To answer the question&#8230;Could Palin be President?&#8230;yes yes and  yes&#8230;.The other 3 on the ticket was in the senate and HELPED drive  America where we are today! I dont care if Palin comes from a goat  farm, she could do better than this stinkin government!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-60">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:15.</div><div><p>Lady Coveted&#8230;.another woman that feels threatened by good looking successful women.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-59">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>James flew in from that alternate universe that Joe Biden lives in.   Maybe the Missouri Truth Squad can help him.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-58">pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://the-coveted.com/blog" rel="nofollow">lady coveted</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>being as putin&#8217;s no longer president of russia.</p><p>dmitri medvedev succeeded putin back in march, she&#8217;s so out of touch she&#8217;d probably miss that point too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-57">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:08.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s  competent all right. Competent enough to ban books at the public  library, books she has never even read. Competent enough to try to fire  a librarian who was just doing her job, Competent enough to veto sex  education for minors, (surprise there huh?), competent enough to fire  the head of the troopers who refused to fire her ex-brother in law for  unjustifiable reasons.</p><p>No wonder repugs love her so much, she&#8217;ll fit right in..*L*</p><p>At least Obama went through a process and garnered enough votes to  earn the right to be where he is today. Palin was handed the position  because McCain needed a quick fix and liked the way she looked and  talked.</p><p>Was she the most qualified and best suited republican for the job?  Of course not and people are not being genuine if they say yes. For  that reason McCain should and will lose this election.</p><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-56">Re: Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:54.</div><div><p>Palin would shove her pretty heels up Putin&#8217;s ass.  Then make him beg for more.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-55">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>Yes.  She would do a great job, because she has intelligence coupled with  common sense, grit, and good solid values. Would to God that this  country had had dozens of Presidents like her instead of some of the  buffoons we&#8217;ve suffered through.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-54">Re: People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>No he&#8217;ll bring them in from the hood.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-53">Shooting wolves from a Copter</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:50.</div><div><p>is  not the kind of Hunter i respect&#8230;..and margaret Thatcher is on her  way over their to whoop your ass for comparing her to Palin&#8230;.Thatcher  was one of the most intelligent and tough politicians in modern  times&#8230;.Palin doesn&#8217;t have a college education and she can&#8217;t even  stand up to KATIE M*^#ATHERF%*#KING COURIC&#8230;.stop comparing her to  Thatcher</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-52">People Around You</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>Obama  will have the flag stomper and terrorist, Dick Ayres and the God D@*$  America Reverend Wright. Both these gentlemen have doctorates!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-51">People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>it  is very important who the president brings into their admin&#8230;..I&#8217;m  certain Obama isn&#8217;t going to fill his cabinet from his high school  yearbook like little miss Palin</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-50">Obama Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>A one-term governor who is the most popular governor in the country.</p><p>Of course, that&#8217;s one more term than former &#8220;community organizer&#8221; and one-term senator.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-49">Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>Obviously  you haven&#8217;t seen Sarah Palin in the real world, she hunts guts and eats  things that get in her way, I would imagine you are the type of idiot  that thought Margaret Thatcher was a bad choice too&#8230;.Russia would beg  for forgiveness from Palin and Putin would be licking Sarah&#8217;s boots in  red square&#8230;.</p><p>Moron.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-48">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mrclm.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chris Meirose</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:45.</div><div><p>More  competent than Al Gore. More competent than Dick Cheney. More competent  than Dan Quayle. Palin would do just fine. Being president is as much  or more about who you have around you than anything else. You must be  able to make tough decisions, and know what you believe in, but at the  end of the day the experts you surround yourself with as President will  make or break your term in the modern context.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-47">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.pullinsreport.com" rel="nofollow">Scott Pullins</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s clearly not competent.</p><p><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-46">Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>russia  calls us a bunch of homos, and Putin slams his shoe on the desk?  &#8230;&#8230;if Palin were president Putin would literally rape her mouth on  live telivision then claim he thought she was the &#8220;entertainment&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-45">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:42.</div><div><p>The  answer is YES, she has run something, SHE has more experience RUNNING a  government than ANY of the candidates&#8230; So yes she is Qualified.</p><p>Obama isn&#8217;t qualified to be elected dog catcher, McCain at least has  the experience in dealing with hostile forces, and for you libtards  there still are hostile forces at work oh and they are hoping for Obama  too&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-44">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:41.</div><div><p>I  didn&#8217;t say NO degree. I said not an &#8220;Ivy League Degree&#8221;. I was just  giving my opinion &#8211; &#8220;If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would  Sarah Palin be competent to be President?&#8221; My answer is yes.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-43">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Matt Jones (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:40.</div><div><p>Clinton&#8217;s  budget experience was a budget of Arkansas which was smaller than  cuyahoga county. Obama has ZERO budget experience. She can manage a  budget. She communicates and articulates the GOP positions more  effectively than McCain, Bush, Cheney and Dole to name some powerful  people.</p><p>go to Canada you commie bastages!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-42">Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:39.</div><div><p>and  an Obama/Biden victory will make us look like a bunch of pansies&#8230;I  would love for you to explain how a war veteran that went through what  McCain did would cause the world to look at us as a laughing stock? Mrs  Thatcher was looked at a little off by the owrkd but she did fine? is  it you are scared of women or hunting women?</p><p>Palin is the only candidate in the race I would vote for president  and be happy about it. I will vote McCain just to get Sarah Palin  closer to the Big Job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-41">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>The US is going to hell because McCain&#8217;s buddy George Bush set us on that course.  4 more years of that?</p><p>BTW, the question was if McCain kicks, is Palin qualified?  And the answer is no.</p><p>Instead of attacking Obama, how about telling why you think Palin is  qualified? Is it because even you know she isn&#8217;t? Typical Republican.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-40">&#8220;College Education&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>All  those &#8220;economic experts&#8221; have great post-grad degrees from high end  schools. Hopefully, that will help them as they look for a new job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-39">Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:34.</div><div><p>Palin  makes a big deal about her &#8220;six pack joe&#8221; ways and seems to be proud of  her ignorance. We have had almost eight years of a largely  disinterested in the world at large President and see where that has  taken us. American is on a slippery downward slope and it will be  difficult to avoid a hard crash and burn landing.</p><p>I for one don&#8217;t want someone as VP, who may well end up being  President, who is just another six pack Joe yahoo. America is the  laughing stock of the world just to have such a yahoo candidate.</p><p>If McCain and Palin are somehow elected American&#8217;s standing in the  world as a world leader, much less a super power, will be further  reduced to the vanishing point. We would be looked upon as a nation of  village idiots.</p><p>It&#8217;s not that I love Obama. Come to think of it with the choice down  to Obama or McCain perhaps we American have found the perfect means to  self destruct. The support given by McCain and Obama for the $700  billion bailout bill (before another $100 billion or so in pure pork  was added) is another giant step in that direction.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-38">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:33.</div><div><p>&#8220;You  idiots care more about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the  stars and stripes. You get what you deserve.&#8221; The truest statement  since Reagan stated the most scary thing ever was &#8220;I&#8217;m from the  government and I&#8217;m here to help&#8221;</p><p>I wouldnt be so dead set against OBAMA if he were more Country  first, rather than Blame everyone else&#8230; HIS party has led congress  for the last 2 years and we have gone from solvency to bankruptcy and  BOTH parties are to blame, ONLY one party is used to responsibility,  the other is used to &#8220;Tolerance&#8221; and forgiveness of their own&#8230;.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-37">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:31.</div><div><p>you  mean like the modern day general who doesn&#8217;t have a college degree? are  we suddenly recruiting presidents from third world countries? because  EVERY American General has a college degree&#8230;&#8230;lets not pretend we  live in the world of 2 centuries ago</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-36">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Nothing  like partisanship. That&#8217;s right put the party before the country. No  wonder the US is going to hell in a rocketship. You idiots care more  about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the stars and stripes.  You get what you deserve.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-35">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Oh  and I&#8217;m qualified because I am a black community organizer.. Don&#8217;t look  at the communities I organized or anything, just trust me for CHANGE&#8230;  BS, it is highway strong arm robbery, ACORN? Rev Wright? Ayers?  Phlegar? Farakhan? Ok Palin has what? A couple of LIES perpetrated by  the elitist media that have been debunked. Yeah Obama in 08 and the end  of our nation in 09&#8230;.good plan.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-34">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://experiencecurve.com" rel="nofollow">Karl</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:27.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  ironic that if you guys had listened to Carter in the 70&#8242;s you would  not be as f**cked as you are now and you would probably have energy  independence.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-33">Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:24.</div><div><p>Say  what you want about Obama, he&#8217;ll make a much better President than  either &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I can see Russia from my pooper, yah, you  betcha&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I was a POW a million years ago,  wait, what was the question again?&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-32">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>Palin  Derangement Syndrome is alive and well as the media blitzkrieg is  desperate to discredit the Palin/McCain presidential ticket.</p><p>Palin handily beat Biden down last night, and that causes severe swelling in the liberal frontal lobe.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-31">Competent&#8230;OBama?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>So  you say go back home hockey mom&#8230; Wow&#8230; your complete lack of what a  hockey mom is.. basically a communtity leader&#8230;hmmm Let&#8217;s see Omaa is  just that, he has not been a Governer, worked a state budger.. .his  short political careeer shows less tenure that Palin. Fair is Fair ,  your last paragraph shows your compete ignorance,,, go read a bit  yourself!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-30">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>You mean like George Washington?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-29">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://republicaninthearts.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Incognito</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:14.</div><div><p>and  how about looking at it this way&#8230; with all Biden&#8217;s asinine gaffes  would people be thrilled to have him as president, if Obama were to  die? I&#8217;d be much happier with a Palin presidency than either an Obama  or Biden presidency.</p><p>She&#8217;s done very well for Alaska&#8230;thank you very much.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-28">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.golfblogger.com" rel="nofollow">GolfBlogger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:10.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  not saying much, but I think Palin&#8217;s more qualified than Obama. The  problem is that if you vote Republican, an unqualified person MIGHT  become president. If you vote Democrat, an unqualified person WILL  become president.</p><p>The only logical ticket is Biden-McCain &#8212; one which, during the primaries, Joe Biden said he wouldn&#8217;t mind.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-27">Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:09.</div><div><p>you  would not make a good president nor would anyone who doesn&#8217;t have an  University Degree&#8230;..watch that sassy little Katie Couric if you want  to know why Sara Palin is completely incompetent</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-26">What the&#8230;?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.soldiersperspective.us" rel="nofollow">CJ Grisham</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:07.</div><div><p>If Palin isn&#8217;t competent enough to be President, then Obama is even LESS competent to hold the position!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-25">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:03.</div><div><p>Why  won&#8217;t Sara Palin be a competent President? Is there anything about  Obama that makes him more intelligent than Palin? It offends me as a  person to think differently. I believe she would do as well, if not  better, than any other of the men or women who have made a run during  this election.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t go to an ivy league college. I haven&#8217;t served as a PTO  chairperson or any other office but I think I would make a darn good  president. I&#8217;m excited to think that maybe we might have something  fresh in the office. From Hillary to McCain it is the same old same old.</p><p>Margaret</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-24">experience or education ?</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:57.</div><div><p>While  one could argue all day long about the experience factor between Obama  and Palin, one can&#8217;t argue much about the difference in education. I  would rather have someone educated in the highest office of the land.</p><p>Thanks, but no thanks for that sweet talkin&#8217;, well read gal from Alaska.</p><p>Don&#8217;t YA know?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-23">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:55.</div><div><p>I  am voting for McCain/Palin for precisely that reason, I would be WAY  more happy with Palin as President than I will be with McCain.<br
/> If Obama wins we ALL lose&#8230;.Oh and a preemptive dismiss to those that  say it&#8217;s because he is black&#8230;Its not because he is black its because  he is a communist/socialist libtard baby killing gun taking no  leadership other than &#8220;ACORN&#8221; type skills&#8230;. but vote how you want, I  cant wait till you liberal idiots get what you want, just like after  Carter, you came crying to the Conservatives to save you, Obama is a  black Carter maybe worse.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-22">NFW</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://twww.mahamatzav.org" rel="nofollow">rebaaron</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:54.</div><div><p>Sarah  Palin is a poser. She&#8217;s so enamored with Ronald Reagan I believe, in  part, because she&#8217;s just like him &#8211; an actor. Reagan wasn&#8217;t a president  as much as he was able to act like a president. The VP debates last  night showed this &#8211; Palin is all show and no substance. What&#8217;s really  scary is she believes that she&#8217;s capable. I think she really has no  idea and is not capable of getting it. I think some call this  sociopathic tendencies?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-21">Palin Did Better Than Expected</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Atheist Jew</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>She proved to me that she doesn&#8217;t have an IQ of 75.  It is more like 90 or 95.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-20">National Level Experience (NLE)</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>Palin  is an order of magnitude more Podunk than any national political figure  in modern times. Case in point, 6 months ago, Palin said, flat out, she  is not INTERESTED in national policy, as in she doesn&#8217;t have the time  or will to keep up with what is going on in this country&#8230;when you use  NLE as the measure Obama is far ahead of Palin, exemplified by the fact  that the very first thing he did in the Senate was get a law passed to  help secure &#8220;loose nukes&#8221; in the former USSR&#8230;.compare that to Palin  who apparently could not even pass a seventh grade civics test (doesn&#8217;t  know any supreme court cases besides Roe v. Wade?)</p><p>All the PAlin supporters are the same , pardon my french, IDIOTS who  supported GW because he&#8217;s a guy they can drink a beer with&#8230;..Palin  sure is a regular joe&#8230;Joe Retard that is</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-19">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by brad (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>If  something happened to McCain on day one would Palin be ready? No, BUT  what makes you think Obama is? Lets talk about the TOP of the ticket.  Give me a break!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-18">And Barack is Qualified? </a></div><div> Submitted by J (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 14:33.</div><div><p>I  love how people point out how Palin&#8217;s not qualified SHOULD something  happen to McCain. And what makes Barack qualified? He&#8217;s been in the  Senate for 2 years? And if he is elected, he&#8217;s it. At least with  McCain, we&#8217;re electing a very seasoned and proven person who has a  pretty good track record for change. Obama can talk about change but he  hasn&#8217;t walked it at all.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-17">Re: Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:32.</div><div><p>Source please.  Media previously said superficial Basal cell.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-16">Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:15.</div><div><p>He has had MELANOMA. The deadliest form of skin cancer</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-15">Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by rusmayse on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 00:48.</div><div><p>Poor  Palin. I commend her on the acceptance of such a difficult position in  such a tough time. It takes a really strong person to take on the role  she has. And I do agree with the fact that she may &#8220;catch on quickly&#8221;.  I&#8217;m just particularly concerned and unsure she has any idea what she is  doing. Period.<br
/> Go back home hockey mom. Gain experience over the next 8 years. Become  more involved on a national level. Listen to the cries of us people.  And then please, come back again :) Until then, keep reading all the  world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-14">Not as a woman, or a man</a></div><div> Submitted by TomCollins2100 on Thu, 10/02/2008 &#8211; 23:33.</div><div><p>Are  you kidding? The notion that she&#8217;s being unfairly judged as unqualified  because she&#8217;s a woman is absurd. If she were a man, McCain would have  been laughed out of the country for picking a first-term governor with  no other applicable experience and zero national &#8211; let alone foreign  policy &#8211; qualifications.</p><p>Women with any brains at all should be insulted that McCain and the  Republicans think that they will vote for any woman they offer, or  belive this particular woman is remotely qualified to run any country,  forget about the United States.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-13"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-13">RELEASE THE MEDICAL RECORDS</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 16:02.</div><div><p>what  you say is partially true, superficial skin cancers are not fatal,  especially with decent healthcare, but WE DON&#8217;T KNOW THE EXTENT OF  MCCAIN&#8221;S CANCER because he won&#8217;t release ALL of his medical  records&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t sit here and defend him against this criticism, when  his campaign could put this completely to bed with a single phone call  to his doctor.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-12"> Palin needs to read a American History Booko</a></div><div> Submitted by pat baker (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  sick of McCain calling Obama a on the job learner, community action  worker. Palin is is a affrimative action herself. Mrs Bush said she was  a &#8220;quick learner&#8221; Do I need a vp who is a quick learner? She&#8217;s just a  Gov for a few years, no national experience. She can&#8217;t answer straight  question. These photo opts with people from the MiddleEast aren&#8217;t  getting on my nerves, they are making me sick Who cares if she&#8217;s cute  while my 401 K might go down the tubes!. Hillary Clinton would run  rings around her. I don&#8217;t need a &#8221; on the job VP during these troubled  times..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-11">McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Omar Hamada</a> (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:33.</div><div><p>Enough  of the cancer stuff!!! Talk about spin and/or ignorance! When&#8217;s the  last time someone actually died from superficial squamous or basal cell  skin cancer? Answer: NEVER. Now if it were actually melanoma or other  types of invasive squamous cell cancer, then it would be a different  story &#8211; BUT IT&#8217;S NOT!!!!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-9">but seriously, she reads ALL the newspapers</a></div><div> Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:55.</div><div><p>Check  out her interview with Katie Couric. She shares that she reads ALL the  newspapers in the world. She must be really freakin smart. She also  graduated from the University of Idaho. I mean it doesnt get much more  prestigious than that. And besides, who is Biden to talk.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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/> She knows what everyone needs&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/george_carlin?inline=nyt-per">George Carlin</a>, the Grammy-Award winning standup comedian and actor who was hailed for his irreverent social commentary, poignant observations of the absurdities of everyday life and language, and groundbreaking routines like “Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television,” died in Santa Monica, Calif., on Sunday, according to his publicist, Jeff Abraham. He was 71.The cause of death was heart failure. Mr. Carlin, who had a history of heart problems, went into the hospital on Sunday afternoon after complaining of heart trouble. The comedian had worked last weekend at The Orleans in Las Vegas.</p><p>Recently, Mr. Carlin was named the recipient of the <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/samuel_langhorne_clemens/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Samuel Langhorne Clemens.">Mark Twain</a> Prize for American Humor. He was to receive the award at the <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/k/kennedy_john_f_center_for_the_performing_arts/index.html?inline=nyt-org" title="More articles about John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts">Kennedy Center</a> in November. “In his lengthy career as a comedian, writer, and actor, George Carlin has not only made us laugh, but he makes us think,” said <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/stephen_a_schwarzman/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Stephen A. Schwarzman.">Stephen A. Schwarzman</a>, the Kennedy Center chairman. “His influence on the next generation of comics has been far-reaching.”</p><p>Mr. Carlin began his standup comedy act in the late 1950s and made his first television solo guest appearance on “The <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/merv_griffin/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Merv Griffin">Merv Griffin</a> Show” in 1965. At that time, he was primarily known for his clever wordplay and reminiscences of his Irish working-class upbringing in New York.</p><p>But from the outset there were indications of an anti-establishment edge to his comedy. Initially, it surfaced in the witty patter of a host of offbeat characters like the wacky sportscaster Biff Barf and the hippy-dippy weatherman Al Sleet. “The weather was dominated by a large Canadian low, which is not to be confused with a Mexican high. Tonight’s forecast . . . dark, continued mostly dark tonight turning to widely scattered light in the morning.”</p><p>Mr. Carlin released his first comedy album, “Take-Offs and Put-Ons,” to rave reviews in 1967. He also dabbled in acting, winning a recurring part as <a
href="http://movies.nytimes.com/person/70613/Marlo-Thomas?inline=nyt-per">Marlo Thomas</a>’ theatrical agent in the sitcom “That Girl” (1966-67) and a supporting role in the movie “With Six You Get Egg-Roll,” released in 1968.</p><p>By the end of the decade, he was one of America’s best known comedians. He made more than 80 major television appearances during that time, including the <a
href="http://movies.nytimes.com/person/113209/Ed-Sullivan?inline=nyt-per">Ed Sullivan</a> Show and <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/johnny_carson/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Johnny Carson.">Johnny Carson</a>’s Tonight Show; he was also regularly featured at major nightclubs in New York and Las Vegas.</p><p>That early success and celebrity, however, was as dinky and hollow as a gratuitous pratfall to Mr. Carlin. “I was entertaining the fathers and the mothers of the people I sympathized with, and in some cases associated with, and whose point of view I shared,” he recalled later, as quoted in the book “Going Too Far” by <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/tony_hendra/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Tony Hendra.">Tony Hendra</a>, which was published in 1987. “I was a traitor, in so many words. I was living a lie.”</p><p>In 1970, Mr. Carlin discarded his suit, tie, and clean-cut image as well as the relatively conventional material that had catapulted him to the top. Mr. Carlin reinvented himself, emerging with a beard, long hair, jeans and a routine that, according to one critic, was steeped in “drugs and bawdy language.” There was an immediate backlash. The Frontier Hotel in Las Vegas terminated his three-year contract, and, months later, he was advised to leave town when an angry mob threatened him at the Lake Geneva Playboy Club. Afterward, he temporarily abandoned the nightclub circuit and began appearing at coffee houses, folk clubs and colleges where he found a younger, hipper audience that was more attuned to both his new image and his material.</p><p>By 1972, when he released his second album, “FM &amp; AM,” his star was again on the rise. The album, which won a Grammy Award as best comedy recording, combined older material on the “AM” side with bolder, more acerbic routines on the “FM” side. Among the more controversial cuts was a routine euphemistically entitled “Shoot,” in which Mr. Carlin explored the etymology and common usage of the popular idiom for excrement. The bit was part of the comic’s longer routine “Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television,” which appeared on his third album “Class Clown,” also released in 1972.</p><p>“There are some words you can say part of the time. Most of the time ‘ass’ is all right on television,” Mr. Carlin noted in his introduction to the then controversial monologue. “You can say, well, ‘You’ve made a perfect ass of yourself tonight.’ You can use ass in a religious sense, if you happen to be the redeemer riding into town on one — perfectly all right.”</p><p>The material seems innocuous by today’s standards, but it caused an uproar when broadcast on the New York radio station WBAI in the early ’70s. The station was censured and fined by the FCC. And in 1978, their ruling was supported by the <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/supreme_court/index.html?inline=nyt-org" title="More articles about the U.S. Supreme Court.">Supreme Court</a>, which Time magazine reported, “upheld an FCC ban on ‘offensive material’ during hours when children are in the audience.” Mr. Carlin refused to drop the bit and was arrested several times after reciting it on stage.</p><p>By the mid-’70s, like his comic predecessor <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/lenny_bruce/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Lenny Bruce.">Lenny Bruce</a> and the fast-rising <a
href="http://movies.nytimes.com/person/107177/Richard-Pryor?inline=nyt-per">Richard Pryor</a>, Mr. Carlin had emerged as a cultural renegade. In addition to his irreverent jests about religion and politics, he openly talked about the use of drugs, including acid and peyote, and said that he kicked cocaine not for moral or legal reasons but after he found “far more pain in the deal than pleasure.” But the edgier, more biting comedy he developed during this period, along with his candid admission of drug use, cemented his reputation as the “comic voice of the counterculture.”</p><p>Mr. Carlin released a half dozen comedy albums during the ’70s, including the million-record sellers “Class Clown,” “Occupation: Foole” (1973) and “An Evening With Wally Lando” (1975). He was chosen to host the first episode of the late-night comedy show <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/saturday_night_live/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="More articles about the Saturday Night Live.">“Saturday Night Live”</a> in 1975. And two years later, he found the perfect platform for his brand of acerbic, cerebral, sometimes off-color standup humor in the fledgling, less restricted world of cable television. By 1977, when his first <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/home_box_office_inc/index.html?inline=nyt-org" title="More articles about HBO.">HBO</a> comedy special, “George Carlin at USC” was aired, he was recognized as one of the era’s most influential comedians. He also become a best-selling author of books that expanded on his comedy routines, including “When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?,” which was published by Hyperion in 2004.</p><p><strong><span
class="bold">Pursuing a Dream</span></strong></p><p>Mr. Carlin was born in New York City in 1937. “I grew up in New York wanting to be like those funny men in the movies and on the radio,” he said. “My grandfather, mother and father were gifted verbally, and my mother passed that along to me. She always made sure I was conscious of language and words.”</p><p>He quit high school to join the Air Force in the mid-’50s and, while stationed in Shreveport, La., worked as a radio disc jockey. Discharged in 1957, he set out to pursue his boyhood dream of becoming an actor and comic. He moved to Boston where he met and teamed up with Jack Burns, a newscaster and comedian. The team worked on radio stations in Boston, Fort Worth, and Los Angeles, and performed in clubs throughout the country during the late ’50s.</p><p>After attracting the attention of the comedian Mort Sahl, who dubbed them “a duo of hip wits,” they appeared as guests on “The Tonight Show” with <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/jack_paar/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Jack Paar.">Jack Paar</a>. Still, the Carlin-Burns team was only moderately successful, and, in 1960, Mr. Carlin struck out on his own.</p><p>During a career that spanned five decades, he emerged as one of the most durable, productive and versatile comedians of his era. He evolved from <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/jerry_seinfeld/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Jerry Seinfeld.">Jerry Seinfeld</a>-like whimsy and a buttoned-down decorum in the ’60s to counterculture icon in the ’70s. By the ’80s, he was known as a scathing social critic who could artfully wring laughs from a list of oxymorons that ranged from “jumbo shrimp” to “military intelligence.” And in the 1990s and into the 21st century the balding but still pony-tailed comic prowled the stage — eyes ablaze and bristling with intensity — as the circuit’s most splenetic curmudgeon.</p><p>During his live 1996 HBO special, “Back in Town,” he raged over the shallowness of the ’90s “me first” culture — mocking the infatuation with camcorders, hyphenated names, sneakers with lights on them, and lambasting white guys over 10 years old who wear their baseball hats backwards. Baby boomers, “who went from ‘do your thing’ to ‘just say no’ &#8230;from cocaine to Rogaine,” and pro life advocates (“How come when it’s us it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken it’s an omelet?”), were some of his prime targets. In the years following his 1977 cable debut, Mr. Carlin was nominated for a half dozen Grammy awards and received CableAces awards for best stand-up comedy special for “George Carlin: Doin’ It Again (1990) and “George Carlin: Jammin’ ” (1992). He also won his second Grammy for the album “Jammin” in 1994.</p><p><strong><span
class="bold">Personal Struggles</span></strong></p><p>During the course of his career, Mr. Carlin overcame numerous personal trials. His early arrests for obscenity (all of which were dismissed) and struggle to overcome his self-described “heavy drug use” were the most publicized. But in the ’80s he also weathered serious tax problems, a heart attack and two open heart surgeries.</p><p>In December 2004 he entered a rehabilitation center to address his addictions to Vicodin and red wine. Mr. Carlin had a well-chronicled cocaine problem in his 30s, and though he was able to taper his cocaine use on his own, he said, he continued to abuse alcohol and also became addicted to Vicodin. He entered rehab at the end of that year, then took two months off before continuing his comedy tours.</p><p>“Standup is the centerpiece of my life, my business, my art, my survival and my way of being,” Mr. Carlin once told an interviewer. “This is my art, to interpret the world.” But, while it always took center stage in his career, Mr. Carlin did not restrict himself to the comedy stage. He frequently indulged his childhood fantasy of becoming a movie star. Among his later credits were supporting parts in “Car Wash” (1976), “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure” (1989), “The Prince of Tides” (1991), and “Dogma” (1999).</p><p>His 1997 book, “Brain Droppings,” became an instant best seller. And among several continuing TV roles, he starred in the Fox sitcom “The George Carlin Show,” which aired for one season. “That was an experiment on my part to see if there might be a way I could fit into the corporate entertainment structure,” he said after the show was canceled in 1994. “And I don’t,” he added.</p><p>Despite the longevity of his career and his problematic personal life, Mr. Carlin remained one of the most original and productive comedians in show business. “It’s his lifelong affection for language and passion for truth that continue to fuel his performances,” a critic observed of the comedian when he was in his mid-60s. And <a
href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/chris_albrecht/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Chris Albrecht.">Chris Albrecht</a>, an HBO executive, said, “He is as prolific a comedian as I have witnessed.”</p><p>Mr. Carlin is survived by his wife, Sally Wade; daughter Kelly Carlin McCall; son-in-law, Bob McCall, brother, Patrick Carlin and sister-in-law, Marlene Carlin. His first wife, Brenda Hosbrook, died in 1997.</p><p>Although some criticized parts of his later work as too contentious, Mr. Carlin defended the material, insisting that his comedy had always been driven by an intolerance for the shortcomings of humanity and society. “Scratch any cynic,” he said, “and you’ll find a disappointed idealist.”</p><p>Still, when pushed to explain the pessimism and overt spleen that had crept into his act, he quickly reaffirmed the zeal that inspired his lists of complaints and grievances. “I don’t have pet peeves,” he said, correcting the interviewer. And with a mischievous glint in his eyes, he added, “I have major, psychotic hatreds.”</p></blockquote><p>In memory of George Carlin, here they are:</p><ul><li>Shit</li><li>Piss</li><li>Fuck</li><li>Cunt</li><li>Cocksucker</li><li>Motherfucker</li><li>Tits</li></ul><p><center><object
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href="http://memes.org/dont-save-whales#comment-13518">first comment</a> that <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2006/02/23/dont-save-the-whales-and-dont-save-the-rainforest-either/#comments">someone posted onto my blog post</a>, <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2006/02/23/dont-save-the-whales-and-dont-save-the-rainforest-either/#title" title="Permalink to Don’t Save the Whales and Don’t Save the Rainforest Either" rel="bookmark">Don’t Save the Whales and Don’t Save the Rainforest Either</a>, that he created the following anthology of really intelligent put-downs, <a
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id="more-4681"></span>Here&#8217;s the content of the book &#8212; the manuscript if you will &#8212; and <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2006/02/23/dont-save-the-whales-and-dont-save-the-rainforest-either/#comment-2760">here&#8217;s the source</a>:</p><ol
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id="comment-2760" class="comment c-y2008 c-m01 c-d04 c-h02 alt c1"><p
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class="fn n">jenn</span> wrote:</p><p> i think you are a fucked up person considering you dont care about anything but your self i hope a whale beaches it self on you</p><p
class="comment-meta"> <span
class="comment-datetime">Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 6:46 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">Saul</span> wrote:</p><p> One thing is true if you are an extremist you are off balance. If you are a fundamentalist in any direction you are off balance. All this needs is a holistic approach. Make money, but don’t sacrifice your children for it. Save whales but make sure to not be depressed by the fact that you might not. Fucked up is what happens when you forget what is most important to your existence and your families existence &#8211; which is in the here and now.</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Thursday, January 3, 2008 at 7:14 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">johndoe@aol.com</span> wrote:</p><p> blow me, bitch!  you need a brain.</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 4:04 am</span> <span
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> <a
href="mailto:johndoe@aol.com">johndoe@aol.com</a> »</p><p>Charming.</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 5:06 am</span> <span
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class="fn n">Jessie</span> wrote:</p><p> I just happened to come across this essay because I was looking for an animal to write about for English class. I clicked on the logo because I am absolutely terrified of whales. I think your writing is very good, and I do agree that one should not focus on one single cause, forgetting about one’s loved ones. However, there are a large host of people who manage to care very deeply about vital causes such as hunger or poverty, and still put much devotion into family and personal life. I think I am going to traverse your writings, Chris.</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Thursday, January 31, 2008 at 10:38 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">taylor</span> wrote:</p><p> u r sick and u should not be so cruel u selfish thing!</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, February 5, 2008 at 10:17 am</span> <span
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class="fn n">John</span> wrote:</p><p> Good job! A+</p><p
class="comment-meta"> <span
class="comment-datetime">Friday, February 8, 2008 at 6:19 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">noneyabuisness</span> wrote:</p><p> YOUR STUPID. YOU MUST BE AN ANIMAL HATER YOU FACKOO. how can you not feel bad for them? your such a…gosh</p><p>P.S. (save the polar bears) wolfs are awesome!</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:00 am</span> <span
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class="fn n">logan</span> wrote:</p><p> save the d*** whales this guy dosen’t now what he is talking about the dumb A** what the H**l is your prob. beach a whale on him.</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 6:57 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">logan</span> wrote:</p><p> jhon shut the heck up you dumb A** gosh!</p><p
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class="comment-datetime">Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 6:58 pm</span> <span
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class="fn n">logan</span> wrote:</p><p> jessie you shut up to what is your guyzes problem save whales</p><p
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class="fn n">Jennifer</span> wrote:</p><p> WAT DA HELL IS UR FUKIN PROBLEM U DUMASS UR SICK AND STUPID!!! HOW DO U NOT FEEL BAD FOR THEM, U DON’T HAVE A FUKIN HEART AND AND UR SELFISH SO GO TO HELL!!! IT’S FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT WHALES ARE IN DANGER<br
/> GO SUCK A DICK!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chelsea</span> wrote:</p><p> I think you are the biggest low life i have ever heard of the Whales and the rainforests deserve to be saved. how dare you write that appalling colunm it’s disgusting!!!!!!! I’m 13 and i think thats saying something</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Chelsea »</p><p>Cheslea, did you read the article?</p><p
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class="fn n">Emiily Scott</span> wrote:</p><p> Hey you need to seriously sort ya self out! Why the hell don’t you care about anything but yourself! I hope you sometime need a transplant and dont get one and then ypu need someone but nooo we shouldn’t SAVE YOU!</p><p
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class="fn n">Nancy</span> wrote:</p><p> YOUUUUUUUUUU ARE GAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Abe</span> wrote:</p><p> BAHHHH HUMBUG!!!<br
/> SAVE THE WHALES!<br
/> NOT YOU!<br
/> YA STUPID WITCH</p><p
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class="fn n">Ben</span> wrote:</p><p> Not that i agree with him, but he has every right to express his opinion on the subject, he does have some good points, but…</p><p
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href="http://aeriekiss.piczo.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/aeriekiss.piczo.com');" rel="external nofollow">Sydney</a></span> wrote:</p><p> KILL THE CHRIS!! KILL THE CHRIS!! cMON EVERYBODY, DONT SAVE THE CHRIS ABRAHAMS!!! considering he doesnt care about anything but himself. hes gonna ruin the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Sydney, you mean “Kill the Humans,” right? I never named any particular whale, such as Shamu or Willy, right?</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Oh, and I should also add, “Don’t Save the Humans,” either.</p><p
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class="fn n">Cecily</span> wrote:</p><p> I AGREE WITH JENIFER!!! WHOO-HOO! I SAY EVERTHING SHE SAYS!!!</p><p
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href="http://aeriekiss.piczo.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/aeriekiss.piczo.com');" rel="external nofollow">sydney</a></span> wrote:</p><p> u r a total psycho!!! If u dont want to help save the wonderful, beautiful, gorgeous planet god gave u to live on, u have mental issues!! U shouldbe locked up somewhere in SOLITARY DETENTION!!!!! SAVE THE WHALES!!!!!!!! and dont listen to this stupid idiot fag chris abraham, who says “kill the children!!” u were a kid once, how would u feel if u were a kid browsing the web, and came cross a site saying ‘kill the children’?? Whats wrong with you?? ur momma musta dropped u on ur head or something when u were a kid. peace!!</p><p
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class="fn n">korney</span> wrote:</p><p> ur a fag it is porple like u that kill the world off!! if someone to have there world stay around for awhile then that is there buisness dont tell them how to live there life so go kill ur self</p><p
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class="fn n">Tookie</span> wrote:</p><p> i think that u should have a heart for creatures lives and u should balance it out with ur family. whales and other animals have lives just like us and have families too but r being hunted and seperated from them. u can do simple things at home too u know. by the way, why did u bring this subject up anyway sam? is it something related to u?</p><p
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class="fn n">Tookie</span> wrote:</p><p> hey jerks! leave him alone! mhe can freely express himself. i dont agree with but dont put him down for his personal opion!</p><p
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class="fn n">Bobby</span> wrote:</p><p> Tookie, we are not jerks, WE are just freely expressing ourselves, and i think that when Chris was a baby his momma dropped him on his head, fed him stupid juice, and then sucked his brain out with a vaccum. TO CHRIS: YOU ARE A STUPID RETARDED A** H***!!! I hope one day, you need serious help, but the people say “No we are using that to save the whales.” Than ‘technically’ we are not sayng “KILL THE CHRIS” But we are still killing you. Go to hell. I agree with anyone who says chris is a dick.</p><p
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class="fn n">Thomas</span> wrote:</p><p> I agree with Bobby, if he means a DIRTY dick.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> I call all you crazy 14-year-olds the Whale-Qaeda!</p><p
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class="fn n">Melissa</span> wrote:</p><p> okay i think there needs to be a balance. You should be able to spend the majority of your time in your life, but also take the time to help others, including the whales. Yes, the theme of saving yourself first and the world will follow suit, is a popular one, and if you think about it, it makes sense. You can do your best and until you can be your best, and that includes home life.</p><p>so i agree with you Chris (guys don’t freak out on me), but maybe you could have said this in a less offending and extreme way.</p><p>Save the whales, but save yourself and the people in your life too, is what i think you’re trying to say.</p><p>okay i’m done ahha</p><p
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class="fn n">Sydney&#8217;s BFF</span> wrote:</p><p> Whatever Chris you’re a jerk. There’s a difference between expressing your opinion gently and then there’s just insanity. You’re nowhere in between, you’re a psycho person. In your quest to kill off the children and whales and all things beautiful just because you’re not, you have proved to everyone who visits this psycho site that you actually do care by attracting more attention to the cause. Thanks Chris, for helping save the whales, but you still belong in a strait jacket somewhere until you see a poor whale being harpooned and you’ll see what it’s really like. Until then, read all these messages people leave you and PLEASE, PLEASE reconsider you opinion. Suppose someone was looking for a house in your neighborhood and shot and killed you because they wanted your house to be yours. Well that’s what it’s like to be harpooned by some jerk-off fishermen<br
/> SERIOUSLY DUDE TAKE SOME DEEP THINKING TIME FOR YOURSELF AND RECONSIDER. SAVE THE WHALES!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Sydney&#8217;s BFF</span> wrote:</p><p> Oh and in my previous message I meant to say they wanted your house to be theirs.</p><p
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class="fn n">Lasse</span> wrote:</p><p> wow, thats what i call a discussion! @ all you radical americans talking about saving the world while driving huge ass cars to the next steak house drive-in; whales are just animals and they deserve to live and than to be eaten like any pig and cow you guys have for breakfast. enjoy everybody</p><p
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class="fn n">elly</span> wrote:</p><p> ur an ass.fuck u</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> What does “ur” mean and what is “u?” Fuck University?  What are you trying to say to me, Elly?</p><p
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class="fn n">fsdasjkfsdfjk@hotmai</span> wrote:</p><p> thats rite dont save those bastards</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Duh.</p><p
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class="fn n">What the hell</span> wrote:</p><p> u sicko how could you be so fucking fucked up in the head. whales deserve a right to live, unlike you. fuck you</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> You did not read the article, did you? Can you read? I am beginning to think that we need to save the children, save the teens, and work on sub-literacy and illiteracy in the US, Australia, and other English-speaking nations that suffer under the weight of such ignorant activists.</p><p
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class="fn n">Syzmatomtia</span> wrote:</p><p> 98% of all species on earth have fallen to extinction, without the help of man. The other 2% will eventually face extinction as well. It is indeed a natural progression of any ecosystem for old species to pass away and new species to be born.</p><p
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class="fn n">Ashley</span> wrote:</p><p> U R A ass hole 4 not saving the whales u should be more caring. U need to get a life and a personality.&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;&amp;U should go and fuck yourself…………….<br
/> ……………………<br
/> THANK 4 NOT CARING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT YOURSELF (((((NOT))))</p><p
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href="http://www.scu.edu.au/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.scu.edu.au');" rel="external nofollow">J. Miller</a></span> wrote:</p><p> Request permission to use the image ‘don’t save the whales’ for a university newsletter cover with theme ‘taboo’. Please.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Yes, please use it as often and as freely as you like!</p><p
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class="fn n">Lila</span> wrote:</p><p> People’s pathedic lives are not half as important as that of the whales, rainforests, and etc. Go fuck yourself and save the fucking whales you cock sucker</p><p
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class="fn n">Monica</span> wrote:</p><p> Is this a social experiment?</p><p
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href="http://www.savethewhales.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.savethewhales.com');" rel="external nofollow">sarah</a></span> wrote:</p><p> Dude, love the whales and stop being a hater. How would you feel if people took you out of your home and killed you?! It wouldn’t feel good would it?</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> sarah »</p><p>That was a very persuasive argument.</p><p
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href="http://nakedgirls.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/nakedgirls.com');" rel="external nofollow">Ashely</a></span> wrote:</p><p> WHAT THE SAM HELL R U THINKING DUMBO IF U WANNA THREAT THOSE ENDANGERED CREATURES U’LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME AND THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WROTE ABOUT UR STUPID PARAGRAPH AND JUST SO U KNOW WHALES R MY FAVORITE ANIMALS SO INSTEAD OF NOT SAVING THE WHALES LET’S KICK U OFF OF EARTH AND NOT SAVE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!U SHOULD DO A WEBSITE CALLED <a
href="http://www.check/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/WWW.CHECK');" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.CHECK</a> OUT HOW STUPID I AM.COM U SHOULD REALLY DO THAT U WILL NEVER WIN</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Did you read the article?  Do you know how to spell?  Can you take your finger off the shift key, please?</p><p
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class="fn n">Smilee</span> wrote:</p><p> rele have u got nuffin better to do wiv ur life than write horrible stuff about whales. if u hate whales so much y not keep it 2 urself?? anyways i love whales and i dont kno how any1 can want them 2 b killed … so plz stop writin horrible stuff!!!</p><p
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href="http://ghjg@gmail.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/ghjg@gmail.com');" rel="external nofollow">alley</a></span> wrote:</p><p> You are a sick person. Don’t save whales? How cruel. You should think twice.</p><p
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class="fn n">Aman</span> wrote:</p><p> Chris Abraham kill that bicth.</p><p
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class="fn n">Aman</span> wrote:</p><p> Theres a bicth named Chris Abraham<br
/> He should die</p><p
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class="fn n">Aman</span> wrote:</p><p> Chris Abraham does not have the right to live.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Whale-Qaeda!</p><p
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class="fn n">nunyabusiness</span> wrote:</p><p> Chris, I understand the ability to express your feelings, but maybe you should do it in a better way. I AM A CHILD, AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID SICKENS ME!!! I also feel the need to say that whales are my favorite animals, and this is so out of line and wrong. They are part of our ecosystem and you should be ashamed of yourself. What people are doing is taking mothers away from their babies, or taking away a wife or husband. Do you have a wife? A kid? A mom? How would you feel if someone shot one of them? Not to good, huh? I think that you should really reconsider and think about how whales are one of the smartest mamals and have feelings and families too before you write such things.</p><p
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class="fn n">nunyabusiness</span> wrote:</p><p> oh, by the way, I’m not the same “NONEYABUSINESS” as one of the earlier ones, I didn’t see that one. By the way, I also agree with sarah.</p><p
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id="comment-4205" class="comment byuser commentauthor-admin c-y2008 c-m04 c-d21 c-h05 alt c63"><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> What you you mean by child? 8? That is the age of a child.</p><p
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id="comment-4234" class="comment c-y2008 c-m04 c-d23 c-h06 c64"><p
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class="fn n">nunyabusiness</span> wrote:</p><p> actually, I’m seven. so think of how smart i am— unlike you. i was looking for whales because i like them, and i found this.</p><p
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class="fn n">nunyabusiness</span> wrote:</p><p> oh, and you also, you must have no come back because all you said was the child thing.</p><p
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id="comment-4241" class="comment c-y2008 c-m04 c-d23 c-h04 c66"><p
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class="fn n"><a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/chrisabraham.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/http:');" rel="external nofollow">chris abraham</a></span> wrote:</p><p> It was not a come back. 7 is very young and you are brilliant. No, I would not want my family to be shot. And, if you’ll read the article I wrote, I never said one thing about hurting whales. I sort of said, “don’t let your family get shot before you save the whales.” My blog is too sophisticated for someone your age. I am pretty sure my site is blocked by the net nanny software your parents should be using.</p><p
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class="fn n">bree</span> wrote:</p><p> wow ur fucked up whales are the best and its because of ass holes like you that our animals are becoming endangered and extinct</p><p
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id="comment-4275" class="comment c-y2008 c-m04 c-d27 c-h06 c68"><p
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class="fn n"><a
href="http://nottelling/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/NotTelling');" rel="external nofollow">Dannii</a></span> wrote:</p><p> You are so mean, and i hope u rot in hell bcoz u r so mean n u dont vcare about anyone but yourself bcoz ur so selfish!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Kaitlyn and McKenna</span> wrote:</p><p> CRAP YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Crap me?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> YES U!!!! WHAT DO U THINK!! U ARE SOOOOOO RETARDEDLY STUPID!! I WISH I COULD MEET U IN PERSON WIT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HATE YOU SO WE COULD SERIOUSLY DAMAGE UR FACE!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO</span> wrote:</p><p> good job nonyebussiness, i spelled that wrong. its good that young people are taking an intrest in saving our world!! keep it up!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> hey anyone who hates chris lets almost kill him to see howq he likes it them feed him to the whales!!!! that will show him!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Yes. That would be fantastic, you Whale-Qaeda!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Shmo, you amuse me.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> glad i do cause i will be writing stuff quite often. FYI!!!</p><p>P.S. what does Whale-Qaeda mean?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> ugh.. u piss me off soooo much!!!! u arogant, retarded, stupid fool!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> <img
src="http://chrisabraham.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt="icon smile I Hope a Whale Beaches Itself On You" class="wp-smiley" title="I Hope a Whale Beaches Itself On You" /></p><p
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class="fn n">wafflez</span> wrote:</p><p> i cant believe that u would make a website based on not saving the whales…u wanna kill whales? u might as well just fuckin kill me! better yet, kill urself! the world doesnt need bastards like u here to ruin it! ppl wanna help keep the world a better place and help the enviornment!</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO!!!!</span> wrote:</p><p> WOO HOO!!!! I LOVE U WAFFELZ! ( THATS ONLY CAUSE I KNOW U!) WE SAID! WE DONT NEED TO CHRIS, GO DIE IN A HOLE. AND I AM VERY LITERATE THANK U VERY MUCH!</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO</span> wrote:</p><p> ooops! spelling errors. it says well said.<br
/> and we dont need u chris</p><p
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class="fn n">Cola</span> wrote:</p><p> you are one fucked up person. people like you should be extinct. i’d much rather have whales, rhinos, manatees, pandas, koalas, tigers, dolphins, elephants, ect. than assholes like you!</p><p
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class="fn n">LOEN!</span> wrote:</p><p> seriously.. where does all this hate cum from? answer that!! ugh u r so fukin retarded! GO TO REHAB!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">I LOVE WHALES!!!</span> wrote:</p><p
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class="fn n">I LOVE WHALES!!!</span> wrote:</p><p> [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii46/xoxlucylou11xox/my%20sayings/whales-1.gif[/IMG]</p><p
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class="fn n">I LOVE WHALES!!!</span> wrote:</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO!!!</span> wrote:</p><p> GO TO THIS AND READ IT!!!! IT TOTALLY APPLIES!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO!!</span> wrote:</p><p> WOO HOO!!!! U SAID IT QUESO! ugh!! chris u r such an asshole!! i f dont care about this planet, then y dont u die!!! cause noone would miss u and its people like u killing the world, while my frends and i are trying to save it!!</p><p
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class="fn n">kerryraine@yahoo.com</span> wrote:</p><p> you are pathetic, and i was not going to respond at all, you are one person, on this planet, you are just a protazoa, a germ, and most of all insignifficant , do you honestly thibk that what you say means anything to anyone.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> No, Kerry, I don’t.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> You guys make me crazy but I just laugh. Please, read the article.</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> I LOVE WHALES!!!, those photos make me hungry.  I only eat dolphin aggressive tuna.</p><p>Queso and SHMO!!, the world doesn’t need your saving. Get over your sense of human importance. Get over the idea that extinction isn’t natural. It is natural. We are natural superpredators and it is our purpose to cause extinction. 98% of every life form that has ever been on this planet has become extinct, even before we arrived.</p><p>yes Kerry, we are all unimportant, so is the whale in the ocean, and the sea turtle, and the great bald eagle. They are just species waiting for the natural end, and that end is extinction. It will come with or without us.</p><p>Death is normal. Creatures attacking and eating other creatures is natural. This is life. This is nature. And as part of nature this is also what we do.</p><p
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class="fn n">SHMO!!!</span> wrote:</p><p> WHAT THE HELL IS UR FUCKIN PROBLEM PHILIP!!! YES EXTINCTION IS NATURAL, BUT THE REASON THAT THE WHALES ARE GOING EXCTINCT, IS BECAUSE OF FUCKIN DICK SUCKERS LIKE YOU THAT EAT THEM!! THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT! WITHOUT ASS HOLES LIKE YOU!, THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM!! YEA… U AND CHRIS SHOULD GO OUT, ITS PERFECT. UGH!!! U PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKIN SCREWED UP!! GO DIE IN A HOLE U ASS HOLES!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Mark, is that you? Mark, are you SHMO? You’re SHMO, right? Come on, you can tell me. It’s so good! You almost had be fooled. Good one!</p><p
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class="fn n">Shmo!</span> wrote:</p><p> WHAT THE HELL U RETARD?!?!? MY NAME IS NOT MARK! I SWEAR TO THE WHALES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE!<br
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> We are natural too. It doesn’t matter if we’re the cause for extinction or not, because all species meet extinction at some point or another. It is normal and natural for species to become extinct.</p><p>Also, I (like two thirds of the world) have no problem eating dog meat. A dog is just another beast and just more food for me.</p><p>The world doesn’t need saving, because the world will continue without you, without whales, without any of what is now. All that is now will fade away. All that is now will move on into non-existence. It is normal. It is natural for what is to pass away, to give way to what comes after.</p><p>Let me say this one more time:</p><p>Extinction is natural.</p><p>We are natural.</p><p>We are a natural cause of natural extinction.</p><p>It is okay for things to die and species to end.</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> It is only the human ego that makes us believe we are the caretakers or destroyers of the world.  We are not so important.</p><p
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class="fn n">Queso</span> wrote:</p><p> God made us to be the caretakes of the world he did not want us to be the destroyers of this wonderful world we have made into a a living HELL for every thing that we think is not as smart as us so yes it is up to us to save animals from dum fucking dicks like you all.Phillip, if your so hungry why i dont come HARPOON you and your family so then you all and have a nice big dinner! how would that make you feel! oh you would be ded so i guess that would not matter!!!!! and i would feel just fine!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo!</span> wrote:</p><p> Phillip, it is niot our ego that wants to save the world, we simply want to preserve it! becuase of retards like u and chris, the world and many of it animals are going to die, NOT IN A NATURAL WAY!!! THEY ARE DIYING BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LKE YOU THAT WANT TO EAT THE WHALES! WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THIS WORLD… THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM!! get it? or is that to confuzing for your stupid little head? u r such a fuckin pig!! u need help if u want to eat ur dog. yea y dont we just cum harpoon u and chris and them feed u to the whales?? HUH??? how does that sound?<br
/> and dont talk to us like we are five! we are very intellegent teenagers THAT ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE OUR WORLD UNLIKE DICK SUCKER LIKE U!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">penny</span> wrote:</p><p> so u Kill the Manatees, Kill the Children, Kill the Tigers, Kill the Dolphins, Kill the Bay, Kill the World, Kill the Koala, Kill the Pandas, Kill the Rhinos, Kill the Elephant or Kill the Whales. Y???? if u kill them, then u will die too! ever thought of that smart ass? yea cause even if we loose plankton, our whole ecosystem will be screwed up!! so if u kill all those animals then u will die and go to hell! God would not want u to be in his kingdom later for u to screw that up to.</p><p
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class="fn n">penny</span> wrote:</p><p> so u Kill the Manatees, Kill the Children, Kill the Tigers, Kill the Dolphins, Kill the Bay, Kill the World, Kill the Koala, Kill the Pandas, Kill the Rhinos, Kill the Elephant and Kill the Whales. Y???? if u kill them, then u will die too! ever thought of that smart ass? yea cause even if we loose plankton, our whole ecosystem will be screwed up!! so if u kill all those animals then u will die and go to hell! God would not want u to be in his kingdom later for u to screw that up to.</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> It does not matter if humanity becomes extinct. We are also a natural creature and that is an end we must face. So, no I don’t care if the current world passes away. There is no problem. People cause extinction, like any dominant animal in an ecosystem it will cause a hardship on the other creatures. This is normal and natural. We are natural creatures and eating and killing other creatures is natural behavior for human beings. Stasis is not natural. The world changes. Life forms and species pass away and new species are born from what is left behind. The survival of any species currently on this planet (including the human species) is not of paramount importance. The ecosystem will recover. It will change into something new, with life forms that have never existed before. Species die out and it is normal and natural. When they die out from us (a natural creature just like any other creature) it is also normal and natural. When we meet our own extinction it will be normal and natural. Life on this planet does not need us and will continue despite what we do to the current set of plants and animals on this planet. The worst we can do is end what is, but that does not end the future of life on this planet. Life has survived ice ages, meteors, volcanic ash laden skies, and more. This world will survive us. the individual species that exist now do not matter. Their fate, our fate, it is of no consequence. The world will simply change and grow, old will pass away and new will thrive. Weak will become extinct and strong will evolve. What you lack is a full vision of the world, of life, of the universe.</p><p>Humanity is a natural creature.</p><p>Extinction is natural.</p><p>Extinction caused by a natural creature (such as humanity) is natural, normal, and okay.</p><p>The extinction of the human species (or any species) is of no great importance in the world.</p><p>The continuation of the human species (or any species) is of no great importance either.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> SHUT THE HELL UP!! O my god.. yes it is natural, but the way that the whales and other animals are dyeing is NOT! so shut up! idc if its natural, th whales and other marine animals cannot go extinct if we want our ecosystem to survive without major issues. stop acting like a smart ass!</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> The current ecosystem will simply be replaced by a new one. The whales may not be a part of it, we may not be a part of it. That does not matter. Change is normal. Extinction is part of that natural change. We are part of the natural order. That which we do is natural.</p><p>The way the whales  are dying is in fact natural.  It is caused by the natural creature that is humanity.</p><p>Species dying out is normal, natural, and okay. It is the way things have always been. It was this way before the human creature arrived, and will be this way long after we depart.</p><p>The mistake in your thinking, is the idea that humanity is somehow not a natural creature. The idea that humanity is somehow outside of nature. That is simply untrue. WE are a natural product of the ecosystem. We are a natural result of what came before. What we do is part of nature.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo!</span> wrote:</p><p> there is no dounght in my mind that we are natural, but they way that the whales are dying IS NOT NATURAL!without us, they would be fine! how do u not c this? yes things die and new things replace them, but in this case when a certain species hat is sellfish becuase they want to eat an endangered aimals, this is not natural. WHY ARE U THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES NOT SEE THIS?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> How old r u any way? cause u act like u r some old smart fart! but ur not!</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> Without us they would simply die off from some other reason or creature. Species eat and decimate other species. It is in fact natural for one species to obliterate other species. Why are there so few who realize this? The reason would be the mass media propagation of the idea that ecological stasis is the norm. In fact, ecological stasis is neither normal or natural.</p><p>Ecological change, disaster, and rebirth are normal.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> so u get it? that without the humans they would not by extinct right now? o finally ur stupid liitle brain takes in some sense. that i what i have been trying to say, that yes the whales would have died without us, but the fact of the matter is that they are dying right now! yes all creatures eat eachother, but the human race is way to universal and we eat creatures that we dont need to eat, and that are supposed to live longer. GET IT YET??? if not i will be back later!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Phillip J Rhoades</span> wrote:</p><p> The point being, it does not matter if humans are the cause or a meteor or some other creature. Extinction is normal and natural. Human beings are a natural creature leading to the natural extinction of other creatures. We are not outside of the ecosystem. We are part of the ecosystem. Nothing that we do is unnatural. Everything that we do is a natural extension of the ecological system. If we’re causing an extinction or many extinctions that is only a normal and natural progression of life and evolution. We are not above nature, and what we do is a part of the natural cycle.</p><p>It is completely and totally okay in the grand and massive scheme of life on this planet for creatures to become extinct. yes, it’s even okay for a natural creature, like humans, to cause the extinction of other creatures. It is the norm. It is the way it has always been. It doesn’t matter if it’s us or something else. Everything meets extinction eventually.</p><p
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class="fn n">somebody</span> wrote:</p><p> This is awfull. of course we must save the whales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">no name</span> wrote:</p><p> SAVE THE WHALES!!! I am with shmo we HAVE 2 HELP THEM I MEAN WITHOUT THE HUMANS WHALES WOULD BE FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p
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class="fn n">Will Litchfield</span> wrote:</p><p> Don’t save the whales?</p><p>What the hell is wrong with you, jesus christ. If whales are the devils servants then you are the devil!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> Will Litchfield » What does that even mean?  And, please don’t call me Jesus Christ.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> somebody » How are you saving the whales today?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo!</span> wrote:</p><p> thank you no name! as to you phillip… i dont inderstand why you need to wirte such long blogs, its really qite annoying! we need to save the whales becuase someone said before even if we loose plankton, you know those tiny miniscule things in our ocean, we willl be in big trouble. so imagine what would happen if we lost the whales or the manatees, or penguins, polor bears, etc. get my onsomble?</p><p>Chris will litchfield is just a name it doesnt mean anything, dont be a wise ass. and i bet “somebody” is figuring out what to do, you cant expect everyone to just start something right away!</p><p
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class="fn n">36987</span> wrote:</p><p> wow! that was insightful!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> ok i think that was a waste of time and space if i do say so myself</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo! » That logic doesn’t work, Shmo. The lower the order the more important the species is: plankton and coral are essential ingredients of undersea life while whales and manatees; penguins and polar bears, higher up in the chain, are really less essential. Losing bees is a big deal, losing man isn’t. Losing algae is a big deal, losing the blue whale isn’t. That said, as we have been discussing via email, I am not a proponent of whale-killing and am in fact more of a green freak now that I have ever been. I moved to Europe, gave up a car, ride by bike, go to the green grocers and buy veggies without plastic bags and carry them home in a reusable cotton bag. When I need to go far, I choose the train, when I need to go close, I take the subway or mount my bike. My footprint is low and I am active in my community.</p><p>What have you done for he whales or for the environment lately — besides attacking me?</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » Well, I am some old smart fart!  I am 38! 38 is old!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> geeezz!! what the heck! someones angry today?! thats good and i am gld that u are doing that. it doesnt madder where on the food chain the whales are. they obviously had a purpose on this earth, or they would not be here. why is that so hard for people to understand?? it doesnt madder where they are they are here and important, maybe not as important as other species, but they are still. After reading ur “posts” my friends were very alarmedd, and so we have been making flyers, that we are actually going to give out at school today! what do u think about that? huh? public awarness? we arent adults, so we cannot do as much, but we ARE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE ARE GIVEN!!!!<br
/> O and by the way, about my last six blogs were not directed to you, they were to Phillip! but thank you for telling me ur age, becuase i was wondering about that!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » I appreciate you for engaging with me and for opening yourself up to this conversation and for calling me out on being controversial — really, the title of my article has very little to do with the whales or the rain forests, it has to do with family, but I knew that “Don’t Save the Whales” and the graphic would get a lot of attention. How old are you?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> it doesnt  madder what the objective is, you diplayed this on the iternet,and now you have to live with the consequences.<br
/> I don not need to reveal my age, that is of no importance.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » Well, je ne regret rien.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> what the heck does that mean?</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » “je ne regret rien” means, “I regret nothing.” In French.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> and how do u think that i would know that?</p><p>well ok then, becuase u better be prepared for people to continue hating you for what you have said and posted, especially if the whale situation becomes worse.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » Well, I do expect illiterate and ignorant people to continue to write poorly-written sub-literate comments full of swearing and very little thought, that’s for sure. It has been happening for well over 3 years.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> i think that the people that write on here are very literate, intellegent, and that swearing is common, becuase of the posts that u have posted. just shut up… u write on here too!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> and there is a lot of thought that goes into writing, i should think that u know that… but maybe not!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » There is no literacy or intelligence. The English and grammar is appalling — including your grammar and spelling. You should be ashamed. I hope you get into college.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> what the heck! this is only cause it doesnt madder! if i was turning in a paper for a grade then it would be good. when people are on here we dont care if the spelling is wrong!<br
/> I’m not ashamed! idc.<br
/> and i will get into college. there is still thought that goes into it, whether u believe it or not!</p><p
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class="fn n">kevin</span> wrote:</p><p> BLOW ME!!!!!!………. A BUBLE!!! I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT SHMO HAS SAID! THERE IS THOUGHT THAT GOES INTO THESE (WELL NOT REALY MINE) BUT WIT EVERYONE ELSES! AND YES I AM NOT USING GOOD LANGUAGE, BECUASE I DONT CARE WHAT U THINK! U NEED TO RECONSIDER UR IDEAS AND HOW U DISPLAY THEM!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> well thank u for ur agreeing, but ur words did not really prove my point. but thats ok! thanks! i think so too!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » You undermine all of your arguments because you communicate sub-literally… it really does madder (sic) — all the time. There is never a time when it doesn’t madder (sic). The entire world will dismiss comments like these — dismissing you as poorly-versed and poorly-informed. Ignorant, really, although I know you aren’t, Shmo.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> shut up!! therea re times where u can use akranims and poor spelling ( like i just did) cause it</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> noone cares!i am not poorly literate! infact i love to write and english is one of my best subjects. i will admit that i am a bad speller, but thats ok, cause WHEN I CARE ABOUT IT… i will fix it and re-read my work, but on here, iam not going to waste my time! get it?</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> no one cares!i am not poorly literate! infact i love to write and english is one of my best subjects. i will admit that i am a bad speller, but thats ok, cause WHEN I CARE ABOUT IT… i will fix it and re-read my work, but on here, iam not going to waste my time! get it?</p><p
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class="fn n">lizzy</span> wrote:</p><p> well, i would first like to say that i have borwsed this web all over and have read every blog, so that chris could not call my uninfromed.<br
/> Now, why would you evoke such an image on the web if ur point was totally different? i guess for attention- public awarness- but dont complain now.<br
/> My family is complete. i have two wonderful children, i live in australia where i am a marine biologist, and my husband studies mamal existence. so why should we not save the world? even if my family was messed up, i would still save the world, becuase i care. all the “stupid wahle queadas” as u say are doing the same thing, but in smaller picture, as they cannot do as much as us adults. i do not agree that you descriminate against them, becuase they are trying to make our future bright and becuase they care. if we dont trust them… then who will? and who will fix our previous mistakes?<br
/> as i have read these blogs, i can agree with both sides. not the family issues, but if we should get involved. as few have said, god has made us care takers of this world, but is it our job to fix it? i mean there are two sides, a) that god has everything planned out that we fix what has been odne, or b) that he has the future organized that we dont need to help. now to decide which one to go with, you need to follow what you believe, and stick with it, dont give up.<br
/> as to the teenagers, keep up your commitment to our planet and follow you dreams, they will come true.<br
/> Chris, i would appreciate if you would stop bashing my fututre and yours. they are literate and i see shmos point of how puncuation and speeling doesnt madder, i dont care right now either.<br
/> Phillip~ i have to agree that you have some excelletn points! but then again i am back to my spiritual ways of believe what you believe.<br
/> chris i must say that your arrogance is very… excentutating. it shows that you will commit to what you have started, and that is good even though you get so much grief. i do believe however that the grief you get is very apprehensive and undersatndable.<br
/> thank you for reading my long speil, feel free to blog back to me for info and advice of how you can help.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> wow! lizzy i am so glad that you have said that! you are seriously living my dream, i mean australia, thats my goal! well thank you, i am glad that adults see us as a bright beacon for them in the future! and that some think we contribute a lot! thank you</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> lizzy » How can you be an adult woman with children and a scientist husband and be able to write like this, “My family is complete. i have two wonderful children, i live in australia where i am a marine biologist, and my husband studies mamal (sic) existence. so why should we not save the world?” Mammal! Mammal! The job your husband does every day is studying Mammals, with two els. Besides, “excentutating” isn’t even a word, so I don’t even know what my arrogance is! Egad! The future is ruined if the entire island of Australia is subliterate, even the wives of marine biologists! Good lord! Please tell me that you’re a 14-year-old girl just pretending to be a mom and wife because otherwise you’ll make my cry.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » What is an “akranims?”</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> see like i said, i am bad at spelling. like a.k.a. or t.t.y.l how they satnd for stuff. c’mon use some common sense and sound it out.</p><p
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class="fn n">lizzy</span> wrote:</p><p> i hope you do cry, i am speaking like this to prove a point. i’m not going to say what it is, or you would never have to find out. we also have differnet ways of speaking, learn that you bone head!</p><p
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class="fn n">cody</span> wrote:</p><p> yes, why try and save the world.  After all it is the only planet in the solar system capable of supporting life!</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> thank you! exactly! well… actually so far! but thats still so true!</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> lizzy » There may be different ways of speaking but there is a dictionary for a reason and when speaking English, mammal is always spelled mammal and never mamal, especially when that personal supposedly has a husband who studies aquatic mammals. So, you’re just plain wrong, sub-literate, and — to be frank — either lazy or wrong.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » I will use common sense next time if you spend the little bit of time trying to sort out what I am trying to say, too. Meet me half-way.</p><p
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class="fn n">shmo</span> wrote:</p><p> no! ok i am done trying to undertand what is wrong with you.<br
/> to everyone that reads these, dont listen to chris abraham, do as much as you can to help our world and dont let anyone stear you away from what you believe.</p><p
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class="fn n">Chris</span> wrote:</p><p> shmo » Oh, egad!</p><p
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class="fn n">lizzy</span> wrote:</p><p> i am with shmo, there is no point in this website. afternoon chap! good bye!</p><p
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href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=818" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=818" target="_blank">data-mining </a>purposes like the infamous <a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=810" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=810" target="_blank">Facebook Beacon </a>controversy I wrote about in those two posts.</p><p>Believe me, the irony doesn’t escape me that the development of this useful plug-in to bring ‘choice’ back to the internet from vested interests and corporate coffers is being sponsored by a MySpace meets CraigsList style-ad community called <strong><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com/" title="http://www.flugpo.com/" target="_blank">FlugPo. </a></strong><em>(as a name generation gal, I have to ask myself, where DO they get these names?!) </em></p><p>I love it when technologists and advertisers trump their own kind, offering solutions-based freebies that kids and parents can ALL benefit from in open-source good-guy style…</p><p>I’ve officially joined the <em>My Data is My Data</em> <a
href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11673174108" title="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11673174108" target="_blank">Facebook group</a> to see where this is headed in the privacy/preferences arena. We’ll see. Created by <a
href="http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/admins/case_studies/abraham_harrison.html" title="http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/admins/case_studies/abraham_harrison.html" target="_blank">Chris Abraham of Abraham Harrison </a><em>(who also started ‘Face<strong>crook’</strong> to warn folks about the Beacon balderdash)</em> the FB group is promoting customization of preferences to suit YOUR agenda, not the advertisers’.</p><p>Hmn. Sounds good to me…<span
id="more-1352"></span></p><blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/facebook-beacon.gif" title="facebook-beacon.gif"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/facebook-beacon.thumbnail.gif" alt="facebook beacon.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>You’d think Facebook would ‘get it’ that we want to control our own data…</p><p>…<em>Especially </em>after they got a strong bracer from <strong>50,000 of us in 8 days using their own mobilization tools</strong> to tell them we were ticked about being blindsided, sending our friends our purchases and preferences without our permission.</p><p>Yet…after a few <em>(forced)</em> ‘mea culpas’ in the press, and shifting to an ‘opt-in’ format, Facebook <em>still</em> snoops, spies, tracks, and harvests our info on the back end <em>(albeit much more stealthily)</em> saving the info for <em>gawdonlyknows</em> what’s next…</p></blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/flugpo.png" title="flugpo.png"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/flugpo.thumbnail.png" alt="flugpo.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a><strong>Yep. I’m hoping this new </strong><strong><em>My Data is My Data</em> plug-in has some chops.</strong></p><p>Granted, the last freakin’ thing I need is another free ‘toolbar,’ but it sounds like a logical, user-driven way to <em><strong>put the control of your private information back into your own hands</strong></em> with all kinds of alerts, notifications, and ‘cookie’ choices, <em>(alas not the chocolate chip kind)</em> to customize your digital footprint beyond the ‘all or nothing’ approach.</p><blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mdimd-pop-up.png" title="mdimd-pop-up.png"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mdimd-pop-up.thumbnail.png" alt="mdimd pop up.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" height="66" hspace="10" vspace="5" width="147" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>A little pop-up box warns, “you are trying to navigate a FB collaborating website, would you like to continue?” and the user can change preferences or turn off or on cookies accordingly. Seems fair.</p></blockquote><p>My first instinct is to globalize it into a ‘yeah, what about Google and all the REALLY big search engine info-collectors…how can this be applied universally?’ dialog…</p><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/google-doubleclick.jpg" title="google-doubleclick.jpg"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/google-doubleclick.thumbnail.jpg" alt="google doubleclick.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>What about <a
href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9835280-7.html?%5E$" title="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9835280-7.html?%5E$" target="_blank">Double-Click?</a> Double-Fusion? And every other integrated mega-mogul marketing play that’s out for kids’ eyeballs?</p><p>Even those of us who LOVE social media mobilization, HATE being sold out and commodified, especially without asking. And that’s not even counting the issue of kids! The arrogant gall of techno tools shipping data to ad partners on an “opt-out” or saturated eyeball/urban wallpaper basis is bound to have backlash…<em>(if not from the parents, then from youth themselves!)</em></p><blockquote><p><strong>Guess THAT might fall into the policy arena on a much larger FCC and <a
href="http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/" title="http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/" target="_blank">FTC privacy</a> scale…</strong></p><p>Or not.<strong> </strong>Those watchdogs haven’t been barking much…<strong><br
/> </strong></p></blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ftc.jpg" title="ftc.jpg"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ftc.thumbnail.jpg" alt="ftc.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>Though today, the <strong>Center for a Digital Democracy</strong> <a
href="http://www.democraticmedia.org/" title="http://www.democraticmedia.org/" target="_blank">(CDD) </a>and members of the <strong><a
href="http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/COPPA%20Rule%20Ammend/514511-00081.pdf" title="http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/COPPA%20Rule%20Ammend/514511-00081.pdf" target="_blank">Children’s Media Policy Coalition</a><a
href="http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/COPPA%20Rule%20Ammend/514511-00081.pdf" title="http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/COPPA%20Rule%20Ammend/514511-00081.pdf" target="_blank">,</a></strong> <em>(specifically American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Academy of Pediatrics, <a
href="http://www.childrennow.org/issues/media/" title="http://www.childrennow.org/issues/media/" target="_blank"><strong>Children Now,</strong> </a>etc.) </em>called the feds on their lax-n-loose policies…asking the the FTC ‘powers that be’ to get with the program and update themselves regarding online behavioral advertising and the sorry state of self-regulation in the youth arena. Yay.</p><p><strong>Self-regulation is great in theory, but let’s face it, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPPA" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPPA" target="_blank">COPPA,</a> schmoppa…</strong></p><p>Sure, advertisers are supposed to <a
href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/coppa.shtm" title="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/coppa.shtm" target="_blank">comply with COPPA</a> but we all know the corporate claws have been out early on, insidiously working fast and furious to blitz tweens and teens with profiling and branding sans privacy protection, before parents, media and the snail-pace of governmental bigwigs even get a <em>whiff</em> of what’s goin’ on. <em>(um, Neopets, anyone?)</em></p><blockquote><p>Many parents are still at the <a
href="http://scobleizer.com/2007/02/16/what-is-social-media/" title="http://scobleizer.com/2007/02/16/what-is-social-media/" target="_blank"><em>‘What is social media?’</em></a> stage, much less having any hint of awareness of data-mining kids’ behavioral patterns and online fingerprints.</p></blockquote><p><strong>Talk about a tipped scale of the fairness factor…</strong></p><p>Even the kids <em>themselves</em> don’t know the degree of personal data-mining going on…</p><blockquote><p
align="left"><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eyeballs.png" title="eyeballs.png"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/eyeballs.thumbnail.png" alt="eyeballs.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>Judging by our own <strong>Shaping Youth</strong> tween and teen advisors, they get ticked off when they see their eyeballs are being harvested and sold as fast as those macabre <a
href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/urban-legend.htm" title="http://www.howstuffworks.com/urban-legend.htm" target="_blank">‘urban myth, </a>donor kidney heists’ where someone falls asleep and wakes up with their organs gone! <em>(ooh, a tub full of ice and <strong>kids’ eyeballs,</strong> ewww…got a horrific visual there)</em></p></blockquote><p
align="left">On the flip side, when people DO want info tailored to them, it can be perceived as a benefit and ‘value-add’ <em>(e.g. a coupon for a store they frequent, or sale on the same block served to them via their GPS mobile).</em></p><p>It’s all a matter of privacy-security, how ads are handled <em>(opt in/opt out, invasive vs. requested, etc.)</em> who it benefits, and how to engage consumers in the dialog to advocate for themselves, and put the power back in THEIR hands.</p><p><a
href="http://smnr.eu/content/mydataismydataorg" title="http://smnr.eu/content/mydataismydataorg" target="_blank"><strong><em>My data is my data </em></strong></a>outlines the FAQ very succinctly and clearly on the whole info-sharing issue, at least as it applies to Facebook.</p><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/generation-digital.jpg" title="generation-digital.jpg"><img
src="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/generation-digital.thumbnail.jpg" alt="generation digital.thumbnail Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="5" title="Fellow Kama`aina on MyDataIsMyData Privacy Plugin" /></a>But again…what about a more global policy here?</p><p>I’d like to know who’s capturing MY info in all arenas…ever since I read <em>Nowhere to Hide</em> and <em><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=371" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=371" target="_blank"><strong>Generation Digital</strong></a></em> I’ve had my awareness at “level orange.”</p><p>This news <a
href="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9915769-7.html?tag=tb" title="http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9915769-7.html?tag=tb" target="_blank">report on CNET</a> yesterday gives a glimpse of prelim industry response in <a
href="http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1&amp;threadID=36739&amp;messageID=396991&amp;start=-1" title="http://www.news.com/5208-10784_3-0.html?forumID=1&amp;threadID=36739&amp;messageID=396991&amp;start=-1" target="_blank">this glib comment,</a> <em>“if you have an agenda to push, remember this phrase, ‘protect the children.”</em></p><p>Hmn. C’mon, now, folks. Be fair.</p><p><strong>I’m not a child, but I deserve the right to control MY own information.</strong></p><p>And yes, kids ARE in a ‘most vulnerable’ category, no matter how much advertisers want to ‘pooh-pooh’ it…</p><blockquote><p>Besides, the Beacon outcry on FB was an amalgamation of collegiate, adult, teens of all ages, speaking to the “surveillance aspects” applicable to us ALL. Those privacy practices need disclosure for everyone…NOT just <em>‘for the children.’</em></p></blockquote><p>That said, here’s today’s <a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/cdd-childrens-advocacy-groups-behavioral-advertising-comments-final.pdf" title="cdd-childrens-advocacy-groups-behavioral-advertising-comments-final.pdf" target="_blank">(14 pp pdf)</a> from child advocates submitted to the FTC from the <em>Institute of Public Representation at Georgetown University. </em>And, here’s the <a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/ftcfilingapr08.pdf" title="ftcfilingapr08.pdf" target="_blank">official FTC filing (37pp) </a>addressed to FTC Office of the Secretary, Donald Clark…</p><p>Finally, below is late-breaking news from Congressman <a
href="http://markey.house.gov/" title="http://markey.house.gov/" target="_blank">Edward Markey’s</a> office with an early-stage reaction to same. Perusing his site, it looks like last week he opened a <a
href="http://markey.house.gov/index.php?option=content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3311&amp;Itemid=125" title="http://markey.house.gov/index.php?option=content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3311&amp;Itemid=125" target="_blank">hearing on virtual worlds</a> too, so this lawmaker could be one to watch as these digital events begin to unfold.</p><p>Meanwhile, kids, teens, youth advocates, parents…What do YOU have to say on the data-mining/privacy front?</p><blockquote><p>Is mandatory transparency the way to go? Plug-ins and pop-ups when you’re visiting a site that monitors you? Age-appropriate regulation? Walled-off regions within platforms that are commercial-free and/or non-traceable?</p></blockquote><p>Can the ‘my data is my data’ concept be applied to a larger scale beyond social media applicable to mobile, VoIP, virtual worlds and virtual goods via cookie-setting that puts choice into the user’s hands?</p><p><strong>What are your solutions and ideas?</strong></p><blockquote><p>Sound off…<a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=1347" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=1347" target="_blank">As I wrote here, </a>the digital frontier is ‘unwritten’…</p><p>No matter what your views are, now’s the time to tap into your own gut instincts and best practices and begin to have your say, before others do it for you!</p></blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.wpclipart.com/people/bodypart/eye/eyeballs.png" title="http://www.wpclipart.com/people/bodypart/eye/eyeballs.png" target="_blank">Visual Credits: eyeballs: WPClipart</a></p><p><strong>Congressman Edward Markey’s comments on the FTC filing today:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>MARKEY: NEW ONLINE PRIVACY SAFEGUARDS NEEDED TO PROTECT CHILDREN, TEENS</em></p><p><em>WASHINGTON, D.C. – Representative Edward J. Markey (D-MA), a senior member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and co-Chairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Privacy Caucus, released the following statement this afternoon in response to the Federal Trade Commission’s proposed principles for industry self-regulation of online behavioral advertising:</em></p><p><em>“The FTC has appropriately recognized the pressing need for updated online privacy protections for children that reflect the sophisticated data collection and behavioral targeting practices now used widely across the Internet. Without stronger protections, including a prohibition on collecting data on children’s and teens’ online activities, young Internet users may become unwitting targets of the ‘hidden persuaders’ of the digital age. The evolution of online behavioral advertising since the enactment of the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act requires a commensurate rejuvenation of privacy safeguards. I look forward to monitoring the FTC’s work in this important area.”</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Related Shaping Youth Posts on Internet Privacy/Kids’ Concerns: </strong></p><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=810" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=810" target="_blank">Facebook: Can You Hear Me Now? Your Peepin’ is Creepin’ Me Out! </a></p><p><a
href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=818" title="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=818" target="_blank">Dare to Share? What’s Your Beacon Story?</a></p><p><strong>Related Posts Elsewhere:</strong></p><p><a
href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/02/18/deleting-facebook/" title="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/02/18/deleting-facebook/" target="_blank">Digital Natives/Harvard Law: Deleting Facebook (vs. Deactivating It )</a></p><p><a
href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html" title="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html" target="_blank">Charlene Li’s Close Encounter with Facebook Beacon (Groundswell/Forrester Rsch) </a></p><p><a
href="http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9826664-36.html" title="http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9826664-36.html" target="_blank">Rough Seas Nearly Sink Facebook’s Beacon (CNET)</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/17792.asp" title="http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/17792.asp" target="_blank">Lessons from the Beacon Backlash: iMediaConnection </a></p><p><a
href="http://laughingsquid.com/facebook-beacon-backlash-leads-to-apology-opt-out-option/" title="http://laughingsquid.com/facebook-beacon-backlash-leads-to-apology-opt-out-option/" target="_blank">Facebook Beacon Backlash Leads To Apology &amp; Opt-Out Option: Laughing Squid blog</a></p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.flugpo.com">Flugpo</a>, our client, and <a
href="http://www.MyDataIsMyData.org">MyDataIsMyData.org</a> to create a plugin, currently for IE, that would protect and alert browsers from any Facebook Beacon sneakiness.  Check it out! The plugin is forthcoming but it&#8217;s not out just yet outside of the internal beta wall.  We have some pretty amazing press so far, <a
href="http://mashable.com/2008/04/10/mydataisyourdata/" title="Permalink to Facebook Beacon Haters Get Their Own Plugin" rel="bookmark">Mashable: Facebook Beacon Haters Get Their Own Plugin</a>, and, <a
href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/10/mydataismydata-an-anti-facebook-beacon-plug-in-that-nobody-needs/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to MyDataIsMyData: An Anti-Facebook Beacon Plug-In That Nobody Needs">TechCrunch: MyDataIsMyData: An Anti-Facebook Beacon Plug-In That Nobody Needs</a>.</p><p><strong><a
href="http://mashable.com/2008/04/10/mydataisyourdata/" title="Permalink to Facebook Beacon Haters Get Their Own Plugin" rel="bookmark">Mashable: Facebook Beacon Haters Get Their Own Plugin</a></strong></p><blockquote><p><a
href="http://mashable.com/2007/11/08/facebook-bacn-and-spam/">Facebook Beacon</a> has caught a lot of flack since its release, to the dismay of many advertisers out there. While the backlash hasn’t been as noticeable as some of Facebook’s other releases, there are still a good number of folks out there that would rather not see their faces on other people’s feeds as part of an advertisement.</p><p><a
href="http://www.mydataismydata.com/">My Data is My Data</a> has beta-launched a browser plugin that will alert you when Facebook Beacon’s system tries to make a connection with a partner site, so you can determine when and where you’d like to share your third-party purchasing activity with your Facebook friends. While there are already a number of privacy options inserted into Facebook, and even more services out there that will rid you of cookie problems all together, Facebook Beacon’s mainstream press presence in itself may help My Data is My Data gain a good amount of users based on principle alone.</p><p>The plugin is still a bit buggy, but the team is working on it.  Given Facebook’s <a
href="http://mashable.com/2008/02/20/facebook-app-regulations/">restrictions</a> to curb newsfeed abuse, and the limited growth of Beacon, there will surely be more tweaking on Facebook’s end in order to ensure that end users are more or less happy, whether this is through voluntary manipulation or oblivious bliss, with the Beacon’s implementation.</p></blockquote><p><strong><a
href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/10/mydataismydata-an-anti-facebook-beacon-plug-in-that-nobody-needs/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to MyDataIsMyData: An Anti-Facebook Beacon Plug-In That Nobody Needs">TechCrunch: MyDataIsMyData: An Anti-Facebook Beacon Plug-In That Nobody Needs</a></strong></p><blockquote><p>The <a
href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/03/more-facebook-advertisers-bail-from-beacon-plus-new-concerns/">Facebook Beacon controversy</a> may not be making headlines any more, but the <a
href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/26/facebook-privacy-issue-wont-die/">privacy concerns</a> it raised still linger.  According to <a
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href="http://www.flugpo.com/" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/www.flugpo.com');">Flugpo<img
src="http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.25/t.gif" id="snap_com_shot_link_icon" class="snap_preview_icon" style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0pt ! important; padding: 1px 0pt 0pt; max-height: 2000px; max-width: 2000px; min-width: 0px; min-height: 0px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: 'trebuchet ms',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; float: none; position: static; left: auto; top: auto; line-height: normal; background-image: url('http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.25/theme/silver/palette.gif'); background-color: transparent; visibility: visible; width: 14px; height: 12px; background-position: -944px 0pt; background-repeat: no-repeat; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: top; display: inline" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="t Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></a>, Beacon may still monitor traffic and personal data, even if a user has opted-out of the system. In response, MyDataIsMyData is creating a plugin for Internet Explorer that enables users to eliminate any traces of Beacon from their system.</p><p>Facebook Beacon tracks usage information by monitoring cookies on a client’s computer. As users browse various participating websites, such as Blockbuster and eBay, their activities are relayed back to Facebook, where it can be shared with friends. Many users find such notifications to be intrusive, and much of the original controversy stemmed from the automatic inclusion of all users in the system.</p><p>The MyDataIsMyData plug-in notifies users via their browser toolbar when Facebook or one of Beacon’s participating affiliates creates or accesses these cookies. The plug-in can automatically delete these cookies at regular intervals, and also allows for users to individually select which (if any) sites will still function with Beacon. Finally, the toolbar will feature a constantly-updated list of sites that participate in Beacon, allowing users to boycott them, should they choose to do so. MyDataIsMyData will soon be available for Internet Exporer, and plans to expand to offer functionality for both Firefox and Macintosh-based browsers.</p><p>It should be noted that while the plugin offers some value in terms of a sense of security, it is fairly easy to monitor cookies with a number of extensions using the Firefox browser. Furthermore, by installing the free toolbar, the users will be placing their trust in MyDataIsMyData—the same type of users who presumably would be put off by installing <em>any</em> sort of monitoring software on their computers.</p></blockquote><p><strong><a
href="http://smnr.eu/content/my-data-my-data-social-media-news-release"> My Data is My Data Social Media News Release</a></strong></p><blockquote><table
border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td
width="51%"><span
class="western"><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_42de2a16.png" name="graphics1" align="left" border="0" height="95" hspace="12" width="174" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html 42de2a16 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></span></td><td
width="49%"><span
class="western"><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m7fe86e37.png" name="graphics2" align="right" border="0" height="77" hspace="12" width="228" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m7fe86e37 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></span></td></tr></table><p
class="western"><font
size="4"><strong>Flugpo Sponsors Development of <em>My Data is My Data</em></strong></font></p><p><font
size="3"><em>Counters Growing Concern about the Privacy Rights of Social Network Users</em></font></p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><strong>N<img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" />ews Facts</strong></font></p><ul><li><p
class="western">In response to the growing concerns that users of social network sites have had over privacy, the growing social network site, <u><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com%3eflugpo%3c/a%3E%3C/u%3E,%20has%20sponsored%20the%20development%20of%20a%20plug-in%20to%20%20counteract%20the%20collection%20and%20sale%20of%20personal%20information.%20This%20plug-in%20will%20be%20available%20through%20%3Cu%3E%3Ca%20href=">MyDataIsMyData.org</a></u>.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p
class="western">This free plug-in (found at <u><a
href="http://mydataismydata.org/">MyDataIsMyData.org</a></u>)is a toolbar that will allow users several different options to monitor and delete cookies, offline content, and track visits to Facebook Beacon collaborator companies. Once downloaded, the toolbar allows users to decide how often he or she would like certain cookies deleted. The user can choose to delete Facebook cookies and Facebook Beacon collaborator companies’ cookies. It also includes the option to delete all cookies at once or none at all.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p
class="western">Selling private information for profit unbeknownst to the users is an abuse of trust and <u><a
href="http://mydataismydata.org/">MyDataIsMyData.org</a></u> hopes to empower users by allowing them to control the amount of personal information that they make visible.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p
class="western"><u><a
href="http://mydataismydata.org/">MyDataIsMyData.org</a></u> was created as a direct response to the Facebook Beacon uproar, which broached many privacy concerns for users of social network sites.</p></li></ul><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>A</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>bout the Facebook Beacon</strong></span></font></p><p
class="western">The Facebook Beacon refers to the agreement that Facebook has with popular online retailers. This agreement allows Facebook to utilize their users’ private information in ways that violate their privacy. When a Facebook user purchases something with one of the participating online retailers a message is sent to the user’s “friends” on Facebook, notifying them of the his or her purchase or transaction with that online retailer.</p><p
class="western">Facebook Beacon was meant to be optional; a buyer/Facebook user could choose to opt out of letting their friends know about their latest purchase. However, several instances have emerged in which personal information from the Facebook Beacon network was sent to the user’s friends without his or her approval. This is just one example of many ways in which social network sites have been working to monetize their user’s experience.</p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>A</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>bout Flugpo</strong></span></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com/">Flugpo</a></u></font> was developed as a place where people can go to make friends, share photos, network professionally, share ideas, buy and sell items, and list and locate jobs. As an online resource for everyday people, Flugpo is a great community for people to make new friends, share common interests and reach out to like-minded individuals and discuss current topics, review top movies and share stories Flugpo also creates a space where businesses can promote their services.</p><p
class="western">Flugpo is often referred to as &#8220;Myspace meets Craigslist&#8221; by their members. Created in the 2007, Flugpo takes an interesting approach to classified listings by eliminating the anonymity features found with Craigslist and allowing the members to connect with one another. “The classifieds, as the world knows them now has no community, said David Metz, founder of Flugpo. Each classified posting is linked to the profile of the member posting the ad. Given the current landscape of Internet safety, Flugpo is quick to address safety concerns by connecting all classified listings with a &#8220;face and name.&#8221;</p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>C</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>ontacts</strong></span></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><em><strong>For Press and PR Inquiries</strong></em></p><p
class="western" align="justify">Contact Dani Sevilla, Media and PR Strategist at <font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="mailto:dani@mydataismydata.us">dani@mydataismydata.us</a></u></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><em><strong>For More Information About Flugpo</strong></em></p><p
class="western" align="justify">Visit <font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com/">http://www.flugpo.com</a></u></font> or email David Metz, CEO at <font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="mailto:davidmetz@flugpo.com">davidmetz@flugpo.com</a></u></font></p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>M</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>ultimedia Elements</strong></span></font></p><p><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m7fe86e37.png" name="graphics3" align="bottom" border="0" height="52" width="156" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m7fe86e37 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/flugpo.png">Download the Flugpo Logo</a></u><br
/> </font></p><p><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_42de2a16.png" name="graphics4" align="bottom" border="0" height="79" width="144" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html 42de2a16 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/MDiMD.png">Download the My Data is My Data Logo (400 pixels)</a></u></font></p><p><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_4845e3f5.png" name="graphics5" align="bottom" border="0" height="73" width="168" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html 4845e3f5 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/MDIMD-pop-up.png">Download a Screenshot of the Plug-In</a></u></font></p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>A</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>dditional Resources</strong></span></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11673174108">The My Data is My Data Group on Facebook</a></u></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com/forums/topic/248">Information about My Data is My Data on the Flugpo Forums</a></u></font></p><p
class="western" align="justify"><font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://www.flugpo.com/groups/group/mydataismydata">The My Data is My Data Group on Flugpo</a></u></font></p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>S</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>ocial Media</strong></span></font></p><p
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href="http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=edit&amp;bkmk=http://smnr.eu/content/my-data-my-data-social-media-news-release">Google Bookmark</a></u></font> | <font
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href="http://reddit.com/submit?url=%20http://smnr.eu/content/my-data-my-data-social-media-news-release">reddit</a></u></font> | <font
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href="http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit?url=%20http://smnr.eu/content/my-data-my-data-social-media-news-release">StumbleUpon</a></u></font> | <font
color="#0000ff"><u><a
href="http://twitthis.com/twit?url=http://smnr.eu/content/my-data-my-data-social-media-news-release">Twit This</a></u></font></p><p
class="western"><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>T</strong></span></font><img
src="http://smnr.eu/sites/default/files/mdimd_html_m246b90d1.gif" align="left" hspace="12" title="Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" alt="mdimd html m246b90d1 Coverage Online of MyDataIsMyData on TechCrunch and Mashable" /><font
color="#33cc33" size="4"><span><strong>ags</strong></span></font></p><p
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href="http://www.hhcc.com/" rel="nofollow">Hill Holliday</a>. They have their required Flash <em>&#8220;brand presence&#8221;</em> with all the fancy <em>&#8220;interactive&#8221;</em> requirements, and that takes up 800&#215;600. Were that all, I would blanch and spit on the ground.</p><p><span
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href="http://www.hhcc.com/" rel="nofollow">Hill | Holliday</a> and then&#8230; wait for it &#8230; scroll down. Yes, the entire <a
href="http://www.hhcc.com/" rel="nofollow">Hill Holliday</a> corporate site is a simple header on the top of a powerful and admired blog. A powerful and admired vertical and industry blog. Brilliant! <em>Bravo</em>!</p><p>Here&#8217;s why this is all so important: Google and the other search engines don&#8217;t see Flash-based sites: they&#8217;re invisible.  Read this&#8230;<script type="text/javascript"><!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7310228388890295"; google_ad_output = "textlink"; google_ad_format = "ref_text"; google_cpa_choice = "CAAQhOSQ_QEaCJ0mn-838cQbKKjntoQB"; google_ad_channel = ""; //--> </script><br
/><script src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js" type="text/javascript"> </script></p><blockquote><p><strong>Make Your Invisible Graphics-Intensive or Flash Site Highy Visible to Google</strong></p><p>Chances are that your corporate website is beautiful and expensive. Beautiful websites tend to be rich in graphics, images, photos, and Flash content. They also tend to be shallow with few pages and very little copy. Sites like this are almost impossible for Google to find. If Google can&#8217;t find you then neither can your customer. Until now. This article helps you turn your invisible corporate website into a high-profile and highly-effective medium for communication.</p><p>This article is designed to help you turn your stealth website into a big, loud, impressive, bomber of a website with plenty of payload capacity, the payload being your company, your message, your products, your services, and your story.</p><p>Corporate websites that are highly graphics-intensive or are built using Macromedia Flash or Shockwave rich content are pretty much invisible to every search engine because search engines want nothing more than lots and lots of descriptive and rich content. In general, the prettier the site, the more impossible it is to actually find unless you know just where to look.</p><p>Websites are delivery vehicles and their payloads are your company message, your products, your services, your brand, your culture, and your story.  Is your company website an F-117 stealth fighter, only visible to people who know where to look and only carrying a small payload, or is your company a C-130 Hercules, filling the sky with its size and noise and carrying a massive payload.</p><p>There are some important things to consider when optimizing a web site for search engines, using Google as the gold standard. SEO requires three things, two of which most web developers and companies do good jobs: rich textual title content, rich textual metadata content (in the form of meta tag keywords and description), and rich body textual content.</p><p>Most websites suffers from a strong lack in rich body textual content because they are in general built like brochures: very shallow and very graphical. Sites that rely heavily on either image files or Flash content suffer disproportionately when it comes to search engine ranking. Why?</p><p>Because search engines can only index the content that web sites offer them and the only content that the search engines can use is plain text. Although handsome, graphically-rich sites don&#8217;t have either the diversity or the sheer volume of keyword phrases that text-rich sites have. In addition to pure volume, search engines also need to find all keyword variations of your service – all variations of the service that your potential clients might use.  Search engines also care about what is called “keyword density?? which means that the most readable of copy isn&#8217;t necessarily the most findable.</p><p><strong>Keep Pronouns to a Strict Minimum</strong></p><p>First, never use pronouns. Keyword density is essential to how Google ranks you. Second, use variations on search terms.  To illustrate the first two points, I will take a bit of copy and optimize it for search engines and their love for keyword density. Instead of this:</p><p>“Viral marketing is now an essential strategy for every firm. It has become as essential to small and large firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, it has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.??</p><p>Try this:</p><p>“Viral marketing is now an essential marketing strategy for every marketing firm. Viral marketing, also known as relationship marketing, buzz marketing, word-of-mouth marketing, conversational marketing, and passion marketing, has become as essential to small and large marketing firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, viral marketing has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.??</p><p>Yes, you&#8217;re appalled by its inefficiency and wordiness. Your boss would never approve, nor would your writing coach. Tough. This is not about winning the PEN/Faulkner, its about arousing Google’s algorithms.  Of course, I am exaggerating in order to make a point.  I removed all the pronouns and made sure that everything is completely contextualized – not for your visitors, but rather for the search engines.</p><p>For my example, I made sure that there was a broad diversity of all the ways people might search for this content.  In addition, I made sure that I also mentioned all the buzzwords and key terms that I could imagine.  Brainstorming with your sales and communication team or looking at the kind of words and wording your competitors use is always a great idea.</p><p><strong>The Controversial Image ALT Tag</strong></p><p>Although there is much debate over whether Google pays any attention to ALT tags for images, I always recommend adding ALT tags to all image files, even when the web page is made up of a “sliced image.??  The only ALT tags that exist are usually in the banner of the site.  No other parts of a highly graphical or flash-based main page are usually textualized using image ALT tags.</p><p>Your company slogan, tagline, phone number, guarantees, products, services, the menu choices (navigation) should be included in the image ALT tags.   Even if Google doesn&#8217;t care about ALT tags like the rumors say, the site will be way more navigable, especially to the blind and seeing impaired – and don&#8217;t they deserve a break?  don&#8217;t they need your services, too?</p><p><strong>Google&#8217;s &#8220;Eyes&#8221; Focus on Where Your Eyes Do</strong></p><p>Google give favor and weight to headers and emphasized text. No matter what anyone says, Google cares about formatting.  Strong, Bold, Emphasized, Italicized, and Hyperlinked text is favored by Google.  Also, Google looks at header tags, too.  Header 1, Header 2, Header 3, and Header 4 are important to use. This is especially important because when the same desigers who have you that &#8220;sliced&#8221; graphics-based site, they might have designer the CSS style sheet without concern for these thing.  CSS styles can change the look of regular HTML tags as easily as they can customized DIVs, SPANS, and STYLES.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blogs</strong></p><p>Corporate blogging is essential to the growth of online properties for a number of reasons, including access to the blogosphere and its interested and passionate community of bloggers and blog-readers. Blogs offer built-in useful tools such as RSS syndication, comments, outgoing links, blogrolls, trackbacks, a richness of text and textual content, and the ability to build celebrity and personality online through a first-person relationship with said blogosphere, current, and future customers.</p><p>Since potential and future clients are clueless as to how the company works, how you have grown the company, why you chose to go into this business, and what your vision is, this is a great opportunity to share yourself as the owner, as someone who has his finger on the pulse, and also to directly respond to the curious and the unconvinced.  It would also allow you to accept and then publish shameless testimonials from real fans like me.  It would also allow you to publish any and all positive or neutral mentions (testimonials or otherwise) about the blog or your official corporate website.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blog as SEO Strategy</strong></p><p>The Search Engine Optimization of your official corporate website will aid in the site’s “findability?? in Google, MSN, and Yahoo!. There are other things that Google and the other search engines consider in addition to the textual completeness of the entire web property.  The most important are the depth of the site (more pages are better), number of links and interlinks to and from the site (can be within the same site), and the frequency with which the site gets updated.  A traditional corporate web site is shallow, poorly-linked (especially to external sources) and can oftentimes go for months without being updated.  If Google can figure out that your site isn&#8217;t changing, it passes it over for constant indexing. It does this because Google has a finite number of resources and will revoke any resources it can in order to preserve them. Since the Internet is vast, Google give priority to web sites and web pages that are constantly-updated such as blogs.  Blogs are constantly-updated, deep, many-paged sites that are constantly being updated and constantly being spidered by search engine robots.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blog as Community Outreach</strong></p><p>No matter how many cool offers there might be online and no matter how much of a your company’s products and services might be, a real angle in the entire blogosphere and blog world is in not only letting your service speak for itself but also that people are even more attracted to story, personality, and the behind-the-scene experience of both the people who run companies and their clients than they are to the services themselves.  If you have the time, passion, and wherewithal to put the time and energy into really reaching out to the blogosphere and the community of readers and bloggers, you can get quite an amount of influence and sway – real impact and market penetration – by just building a relationship with the blogsavvy, wealthy, young, and the professional – people with money, in other words.  These types of people, 25-45, are the same sort of people who spend a lot of time reading blogs.</p><p><strong>Blog Community Outreach</strong></p><p>One powerful technique for building community on blogs is to first find a compelling item about your industry, products, and services then search for the blogs that are already talking about it on <a
href="http://Technorat.com" rel="nofollow">Technorat</a>i. It is much easier to message on blogs that are already having friendly conversation.</p><p><strong>Technorati as Strategic Tool</strong></p><p>Spread the word online:  People are already talking about how busy they are, how awful their places look, and so forth &#8212; tell them about your company, your culture, your history, your story, your products, and the services you offer – and do it openly and honestly and place your own name, your own email, and either the URL of your web site or the URL of the blog itself. Here&#8217;s how:</p><p>1) Go to <a
href="http://Technorati.com" rel="nofollow">Technorati.com</a>, a blog search engine.</p><p>2) Type in one or more of the keyword phrase in your Meta Tag keywords</p><p>3) Go to the blogs that are talking about your company, industry, products, and services</p><p>4) Where appropriate, leave a short note about your company or your corporate blog</p><p>5) Come back the next day (or as often as you can) and do the same thing but be sure to follow-up with the conversation because dropping a message without coming back is considered spam and in the blogosphere, an ounce or prevention is worth a pound of cure.</p><p><strong>Submit your Blog and Website to Search Engines</strong></p><p>I personally use <a
href="http://www.submission2000.com/products/ds7/index.html" rel="nofollow">Dynamic Submission</a>, but there are a bunch. <a
href="http://www.web-positiongold.com/pro-web-position-gold.html" rel="nofollow">Web Position Gold</a> is another fave. I choose Dynamic Submission because it allows me to spider my entire blog to within an inch of its life and then submit not just the site&#8217;s arteries but also all the way down to the site&#8217;s villi as well.  In my opinion, search engines are lazy. They have only so many resources and so many nanoseconds in the day.  They need to put first things first.  So what I do before I spider the blog is set the index page of the blog to view 365-days of posts, or maybe a bunch of weeks, so that I can spider most of the blog from one &#8220;Import from Web.&#8221;  When the import is complete, I change it back to showing only the last 7 days.  I even maintain a separate box on which to host the Dynamic Submission tool because it&#8217;s such a processor hog.  And then let it go.  Seems to work like a charm.  Why?  Well, not because I am doing anything unseamly but rather just because Google and the rest sometimes miss something and I want to make sure that all the engines get everything.  Every little dumbass link.</p><p><strong>The Services You Might Want to Employ</strong></p><p>Although I have not used the services, one respectable way of increasing your link popularity and prestige in Google is to use a service like <a
href="http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=14720" rel="nofollow">Text Link Ads</a>.  What <a
href="http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=14720" rel="nofollow">Text Link Ads</a>s offers is a link-buying service that does double-duty.  The double duty is as follows: in addition to creating clickable links on the popular sites that can choose and afford, it will also allow you to legally create Google bombs that will heighten the probability that your company website or your corporate blog will turn up when people search for your company, your industry, your market, your products, and your services.</p><p>Employing &#8220;localized&#8221; Google AdWords, content-based Google AdWords, and search-based Google AdWords is a no-brainer.  There are other advertising solutions available now, including finding the advertising networks that might be placed on some of the blogs you find the most focused or relevant, including <a
href="http://BlogAds.com" rel="nofollow">BlogAds</a>, etc.</p><p>Okay, I hope that helps.  I am tired of writing but if you have any more questions, please feel free to ask me questions below in the comment section and I will both answer them and also use your questions, comments, feedback, and suggestions to fuel future articles.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2006/06/15/i-hate-most-liberals-because-of-their-transparent-wanton-hypocrisy/#comment-1781" rel="nofollow">thoughtful and insightful comment</a>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;That couldn&#8217;t be more incorrect. What Zappa explicitly addressed in his testimony&#8211; and why he became so quickly unwelcome&#8211; was the RIAA&#8217;s quiet quid pro quo deal with the PMRC: &#8216;you use your influence to get congress to enact a tax on blank recording media and we&#8217;ll put your labels on our records.&#8217; (All the while realizing of course that such labeling could only help sell more records by otherwise thoroughly un-noteworthy acts, e.g. 2LiveCrew.) In fact, Zappa&#8217;s own marketability was in some ways perhaps benefited by the boogieman of censorship as he went on to compose a number of popular pieces (amongst Zappa fans, anyway) about the whole episode and even went so far as to apply his own mock &#8216;warning/guarantee&#8217; to his records thereafter even though as owner of his own independent label he was most definitely not a party to any deal between arch-enemy Warner and the PMRC. And he was not worried about his own sales should he run afoul of content laws as Wal-Mart wasn&#8217;t stocking his product anyhow.&#8221;"In great part, the musicians who appeared at the hearings were has-beens (Dee Snider) or evergreens (John Denver&#8211; whom no one would ever accuse of peddling profanity,) none of whom had all that much to gain or lose regardless of what happened as a result of the &#8220;controversy.&#8221; (If Prince had appeared, that might have been a different case, but he didn&#8217;t.) You may be correct in your observation that much of the pontification we see from the usual Hollywood suspects may smell kind of funny, but this case is really not a valid example to support your premise. These were by-and-large earnestly concerned citizens who also happened by virtue of their celebrity to be in a position (albeit perhaps as targets?) to express their opinions in a public forum, the whole point of which, it may be argued, was to garner publicity for some congresspeople&#8217;s own ego-driven political ambition.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div
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border="0" style="border:0;" src="//assets.pinterest.com/images/PinExt.png" title="Pin It" alt="PinExt Search Engine Optimization Works like a Champ" /></a></div><p>I collected all of <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/seo">my personal blog</a> articles to-date on <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/search_engines/"><em>Search Engine Optimization</em></a> (<a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/seo/">SEO</a>) and have been handing them out to folks who still believe that SEO is snake oil and I thought I would share them with you, too, since most of you students of blogging actually want your words, your passion, and your voice to be heard.</p><p><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/04/make_your_invis.php">Make Your Invisible Graphics-Intensive or Flash Site Highly Visible to Google</a></strong></p><blockquote><p><em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">Until now</span></em>. This article helps you turn your invisible corporate website into a high-profile and highly-effective medium for communication.</p><p>This article is designed to help you turn your stealth website into a big, loud, impressive, bomber of a website with plenty of payload capacity, the payload being your company, your message, your products, your services, and your story.</p><p>Corporate websites that are highly graphics-intensive or are built using Macromedia Flash or Shockwave rich content are pretty much invisible to every search engine because search engines want nothing more than lots and lots of descriptive and rich content. In general, the prettier the site, the more impossible it is to actually find unless you know just where to look.</p><p>Websites are delivery vehicles and their payloads are your company message, your products, your services, your brand, your culture, and your story. Is your company website an F-117 stealth fighter, only visible to people who know where to look and only carrying a small payload, or is your company a C-130 Hercules, filling the sky with its size and noise and carrying a massive payload.There are some important things to consider when optimizing a web site for search engines, using Google as the gold standard. SEO requires three things, two of which most web developers and companies do good jobs: rich textual title content, rich textual metadata content (in the form of meta tag keywords and description), and rich body textual content.</p><p>Most websites suffers from a strong lack in rich body textual content because they are in general built like brochures: very shallow and very graphical. Sites that rely heavily on either image files or Flash content suffer disproportionately when it comes to search engine ranking. Why?</p><p>Because search engines can only index the content that web sites offer them and the only content that the search engines can use is plain text. Although handsome, graphically-rich sites don&#8217;t have either the diversity or the sheer volume of keyword phrases that text-rich sites have. In addition to pure volume, search engines also need to find all keyword variations of your service – all variations of the service that your potential clients might use. Search engines also care about what is called “keyword density??? which means that the most readable of copy isn&#8217;t necessarily the most findable.</p><p><strong>Keep Pronouns to a Strict Minimum</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>First, never use pronouns. Keyword density is essential to how Google ranks you. Second, use variations on search terms. To illustrate the first two points, I will take a bit of copy and optimize it for search engines and their love for keyword density. Instead of this:</p><p><em>“Viral marketing is now an essential strategy for every firm. It has become as essential to small and large firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, it has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.???</em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>Try this:</p><p><em>“Viral marketing is now an essential marketing strategy for every marketing firm. Viral marketing, also known as relationship marketing, buzz marketing, word-of-mouth marketing, conversational marketing, and passion marketing, has become as essential to small and large marketing firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, viral marketing has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.???</em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>Yes, you&#8217;re appalled by its inefficiency and wordiness. Your boss would never approve, nor would your writing coach. Tough. This is not about winning the PEN/Faulkner, its about arousing Google’s algorithms. Of course, I am exaggerating in order to make a point. I removed all the pronouns and made sure that everything is completely contextualized – not for your visitors, but rather for the search engines.</p><p>For my example, I made sure that there was a broad diversity of all the ways people might search for this content. In addition, I made sure that I also mentioned all the buzzwords and key terms that I could imagine. Brainstorming with your sales and communication team or looking at the kind of words and wording your competitors use is always a great idea.</p><p><strong>The Controversial Image ALT Tag</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>Although there is much debate over whether Google pays any attention to ALT tags for images, I always recommend adding ALT tags to all image files, even when the web page is made up of a “sliced image.??? The only ALT tags that exist are usually in the banner of the site. No other parts of a highly graphical or flash-based main page are usually textualized using image ALT tags.</p><p>Your company slogan, tagline, phone number, guarantees, products, services, the menu choices (navigation) should be included in the image ALT tags. Even if Google doesn&#8217;t care about ALT tags like the rumors say, the site will be way more navigable, especially to the blind and seeing impaired – and don&#8217;t they deserve a break? don&#8217;t they need your services, too?</p><p><strong>Google&#8217;s &#8220;Eyes&#8221; Focus on Where Your Eyes Do</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>Google give favor and weight to headers and emphasized text. No matter what anyone says, Google cares about formatting. Strong, Bold, Emphasized, Italicized, and Hyperlinked text is favored by Google. Also, Google looks at header tags, too. Header 1, Header 2, Header 3, and Header 4 are important to use. This is especially important because when the same desigers who have you that &#8220;sliced&#8221; graphics-based site, they might have designer the CSS style sheet without concern for these thing. CSS styles can change the look of regular HTML tags as easily as they can customized DIVs, SPANS, and STYLES.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blogs</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>Corporate blogging is essential to the growth of online properties for a number of reasons, including access to the blogosphere and its interested and passionate community of bloggers and blog-readers. Blogs offer built-in useful tools such as RSS syndication, comments, outgoing links, blogrolls, trackbacks, a richness of text and textual content, and the ability to build celebrity and personality online through a first-person relationship with said blogosphere, current, and future customers.Since potential and future clients are clueless as to how the company works, how you have grown the company, why you chose to go into this business, and what your vision is, this is a great opportunity to share yourself as the owner, as someone who has his finger on the pulse, and also to directly respond to the curious and the unconvinced. It would also allow you to accept and then publish shameless testimonials from real fans like me. It would also allow you to publish any and all positive or neutral mentions (testimonials or otherwise) about the blog or your official corporate website.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blog as SEO Strategy</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>The Search Engine Optimization of your official corporate website will aid in the site’s “findability??? in Google, MSN, and Yahoo!. There are other things that Google and the other search engines consider in addition to the textual completeness of the entire web property. The most important are the depth of the site (more pages are better), number of links and interlinks to and from the site (can be within the same site), and the frequency with which the site gets updated. A traditional corporate web site is shallow, poorly-linked (especially to external sources) and can oftentimes go for months without being updated. If Google can figure out that your site isn&#8217;t changing, it passes it over for constant indexing. It does this because Google has a finite number of resources and will revoke any resources it can in order to preserve them. Since the Internet is vast, Google give priority to web sites and web pages that are constantly-updated such as blogs. Blogs are constantly-updated, deep, many-paged sites that are constantly being updated and constantly being spidered by search engine robots.</p><p><strong>Corporate Blog as Community Outreach</strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p><p>No matter how many cool offers there might be online and no matter how much of a your company’s products and services might be, a real angle in the entire blogosphere and blog world is in not only letting your service speak for itself but also that people are even more attracted to story, personality, and the behind-the-scene experience of both the people who run companies and their clients than they are to the services themselves. If you have the time, passion, and wherewithal to put the time and energy into really reaching out to the blogosphere and the community of readers and bloggers, you can get quite an amount of influence and sway – real impact and market penetration – by just building a relationship with the blogsavvy, wealthy, young, and the professional – people with money, in other words. These types of people, 25-45, are the same sort of people who spend a lot of time reading blogs.</p><p><strong>Blog Community Outreach</strong></p><p>One powerful technique for building community on blogs is to first find a compelling item about your industry, products, and services then search for the blogs that are already talking about it on <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://technorat.com/">Technorat</a>i. It is much easier to message on blogs that are already having friendly conversation.</p><p><strong>Technorati as Strategic Tool</strong></p><p>Spread the word online: People are already talking about how busy they are, how awful their places look, and so forth &#8212; tell them about your company, your culture, your history, your story, your products, and the services you offer – and do it openly and honestly and place your own name, your own email, and either the URL of your web site or the URL of the blog itself. Here&#8217;s how:1) Go to <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://technorati.com/">Technorati.com</a>, a blog search engine.</p><p>2) Type in one or more of the keyword phrase in your Meta Tag keywords</p><p>3) Go to the blogs that are talking about your company, industry, products, and services</p><p>4) Where appropriate, leave a short note about your company or your corporate blog</p><p>5) Come back the next day (or as often as you can) and do the same thing but be sure to follow-up with the conversation because dropping a message without coming back is considered spam and in the blogosphere, an ounce or prevention is worth a pound of cure.</p><p><strong>Submit your Blog and Website to Search Engines</strong></p><p>I personally use <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.submission2000.com/products/ds7/index.html">Dynamic Submission</a>, but there are a bunch. <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.web-positiongold.com/pro-web-position-gold.html">Web Position Gold</a> is another fave. I choose Dynamic Submission because it allows me to spider my entire blog to within an inch of its life and then submit not just the site&#8217;s arteries but also all the way down to the site&#8217;s villi as well. In my opinion, search engines are lazy. They have only so many resources and so many nanoseconds in the day. They need to put first things first. So what I do before I spider the blog is set the index page of the blog to view 365-days of posts, or maybe a bunch of weeks, so that I can spider most of the blog from one &#8220;Import from Web.&#8221; When the import is complete, I change it back to showing only the last 7 days. I even maintain a separate box on which to host the Dynamic Submission tool because it&#8217;s such a processor hog. And then let it go. Seems to work like a charm. Why? Well, not because I am doing anything unseamly but rather just because Google and the rest sometimes miss something and I want to make sure that all the engines get everything. Every little dumbass link.<br
/> <strong></strong></p><p><strong><span
style="font-family: Arial;">The Services You Might Want to Employ</span></strong></p><p>Although I have not used the services, one respectable way of increasing your link popularity and prestige in Google is to use a service like <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=14720">Text Link Ads</a>. What <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.text-link-ads.com/?ref=14720">Text Link Ads</a>s offers is a link-buying service that does double-duty. The double duty is as follows: in addition to creating clickable links on the popular sites that can choose and afford, it will also allow you to legally create Google bombs that will heighten the probability that your company website or your corporate blog will turn up when people search for your company, your industry, your market, your products, and your services.</p><p>Employing &#8220;localized&#8221; Google AdWords, content-based Google AdWords, and search-based Google AdWords is a no-brainer. There are other advertising solutions available now, including finding the advertising networks that might be placed on some of the blogs you find the most focused or relevant, including <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://blogads.com/">BlogAds</a>, etc.</p><p>Okay, I hope that helps. I am tired of writing but if you have any more questions, please feel free to ask me questions below in the comment section and I will both answer them and also use your questions, comments, feedback, and suggestions to fuel future articles.<span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/optimize_your_b.php"></a></span></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #ff6600; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/optimize_your_b.php">Control Your Google Listing</a></span></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">I control all the aspects of the following return &#8212; title <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">and</span></em> description <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">(and maybe even placement)</span></em>. <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">You should too!</span></em></span></p><p>How did I do that? Well, I just wrote some code and pasted it into my blog template, above the opening tag, between the and tags. Simple but mightily effective!</p><p><em>Holler!</em></p><p>If you optimize your blog you can control the way Google shows your site to the world.</p><p>Be sure to add a &#8220;description&#8221; meta tag as Google uses it in search returns (and you can control Google&#8217;s description of your site). If you don&#8217;t want to top there, you can continue with the whole lots of meta tags.</p><p>If you want to see what meta tags I use, they&#8217;re listed at the bottom of this article. I will paste my tags at the end of here for you to enjoy. Also, make sure you give &#8220;alt&#8221; and &#8220;title&#8221; tags to all of your images and &#8220;title&#8221; tags to all of your links.</p><p><em>(For you newbies, the meta tags all go within the header tags in your blog template. So you will need to do some template editing.)</em></p><p><strong>Four</strong>, find a <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/11/google_sitemap_1.html">Google Sitemap plug-in</a> and use it.</p><p>Five, submit your blog as though it were a traditional website. I personally use <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.submission2000.com/products/ds7/index.html">Dynamic Submission</a>, but there are a bunch. <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.web-positiongold.com/pro-web-position-gold.html">Web Position Gold</a> is another fave. I choose Dynamic Submission because it allows me to spider my entire blog to within an inch of its life and then submit not just the site&#8217;s arteries but also all the way down to the site&#8217;s villi as well. In my opinion, search engines are lazy. They have only so many resources and so many nanoseconds in the day. They need to put first things first. So what I do before I spider the blog is set the index page of the blog to view 365-days of posts, or maybe a bunch of weeks, so that I can spider most of the blog from one &#8220;Import from Web.&#8221; When the import is complete, I change it back to showing only the last 7 days. I even maintain a separate box on which to host the Dynamic Submission tool because it&#8217;s such a processor hog. And then let it go. Seems to work like a charm. Why? Well, not because I am doing anything unseamly but rather just because Google and the rest sometimes miss something and I want to make sure that all the engines get everything. Every little dumbass link.</p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/quick_blog_sear.php"></a></span><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/quick_blog_sear.php"></a><a
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rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/quick_blog_sear.php">Quick Blog Search Engine Optimization Tips You Can Control</a></strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">Google, Yahoo!, and MSN already love you, blogger, so just <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">write, write, write</span></em>. If you have more time and an inclination you can continue reading.</span></p><p>Without doing anything to your blog, you have an advantage which is lots and lots of text that is generally topic-centric and frequently updated. You are already ahead of the game. Add to that that Google loves you and cares about keeping up with the blogosphere and you can safely stop reading now and be fine. Just make sure you write something twice a day.</p><p>Although the most important part of SEO is getting Very Important People to link to you, there is a lot you can do on your own that I will go into below (I also go over how I think Google works in <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/10/how_google_prob.html">How Google Probably Ranks Your Site in My Opinion</a>).</p><p><strong>First, </strong><em><strong>never use pronouns</strong></em>. Keyword density is essential to how Google ranks you. <strong><span
style="font-family: Arial;">Second</span></strong>, use variations on search terms. To illustrate the first two points, I will take a bit of copy and optimize it for search engines and their love for keyword density. Instead of this:</p><p><em>&#8220;Viral marketing is now an essential strategy for every firm. It has become as essential to small and large firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, it has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.&#8221;</em></p><p>Try this:</p><p><em>&#8220;Viral marketing is now an essential marketing strategy for every marketing firm. Viral marketing, also known as relationship marketing, buzz marketing, word-of-mouth marketing, conversational marketing, and passion marketing, has become as essential to small and large marketing firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, viral marketing has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.&#8221;</em></p><p>Yes, you&#8217;re appalled by its inefficiency and wordiness. Your boss would never approve, nor would your writing coach. Tough. This is not about winning the <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">PEN/Faulkner</span></em>, its about arousing Google&#8217;s algorythms.</p><p><strong>Third, </strong><em><strong>optimize your blog as though it were a traditional website</strong></em>. Be sure to add a &#8220;description&#8221; meta tag as Google uses it in search returns (and you can control Google&#8217;s description of your site). If you don&#8217;t want to top there, you can continue with the whole lots of meta tags. I will paste my tags at the end of here for you to enjoy. Also, make sure you give &#8220;alt&#8221; and &#8220;title&#8221; tags to all of your images and &#8220;title&#8221; tags to all of your links.</p><p><strong>Four</strong>, find a <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/11/google_sitemap_1.html">Google Sitemap plug-in</a> and use it.</p><p>Five, submit your blog as though it were a traditional website. I personally use <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.submission2000.com/products/ds7/index.html">Dynamic Submission</a>, but there are a bunch. <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.web-positiongold.com/pro-web-position-gold.html">Web Position Gold</a> is another fave. I choose Dynamic Submission because it allows me to spider my entire blog to within an inch of its life and then submit not just the site&#8217;s arteries but also all the way down to the site&#8217;s villi as well. In my opinion, search engines are lazy. They have only so many resources and so many nanoseconds in the day. They need to put first things first. So what I do before I spider the blog is set the index page of the blog to view 365-days of posts, or maybe a bunch of weeks, so that I can spider most of the blog from one &#8220;Import from Web.&#8221; When the import is complete, I change it back to showing only the last 7 days. I even maintain a separate box on which to host the Dynamic Submission tool because it&#8217;s such a processor hog. And then let it go. Seems to work like a charm. Why? Well, not because I am doing anything unseamly but rather just because Google and the rest sometimes miss something and I want to make sure that all the engines get everything. Every little dumbass link.</p><p>Six, make sure you use a <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/what_is_a_ping.html">ping server</a>. If you don&#8217;t know a thing, start with filling out <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pingomatic.com/">Pingomatic</a> as best you can. That should be good enough for now. Blogger and WordPress.com offer a checkbox you can use to send out the ping. You can probably build it into your submission using the WordPress &#8220;Update Services&#8221; under Options/Writing, then scroll down. On MT it&#8217;s in Settings/New Entry Defaults/Publicity/Remote Interfaces. I use a long list that I will post under the Meta Tags below:</p><p><strong>Ping Server List for ChrisAbraham.com</strong></p><p>http://www.blogshares.com/rpc.php</p><p>http://api.feedster.com/ping</p><p>http://api.moreover.com/RPC2</p><p>http://api.my.yahoo.com/RPC2</p><p>http://blog.goo.ne.jp/XMLRPC</p><p>http://bulkfeeds.net/rpc</p><p>http://coreblog.org/ping</p><p>http://effbot.org/rpc/ping.cgi</p><p>http://ping.bitacoras.com</p><p>http://ping.blo.gs</p><p>http://ping.cocolog-nifty.com/xmlrpc</p><p>http://ping.feedburner.com</p><p>http://ping.syndic8.com/xmlrpc.php</p><p>http://rpc.pingomatic.com</p><p>http://rpc.technorati.com/rpc/ping</p><p>http://rpc.weblogs.com/RPC2</p><p>http://topicexchange.com/RPC2</p><p>http://www.a2b.cc/setloc/bp.a2b</p><p>http://www.blogdigger.com/RPC2</p><p>http://www.blogpeople.net/servlet/weblogUpdates</p><p>http://xping.pubsub.com/ping<em>(I was Inspired by BBC&#8217;s <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/businessblogconsulting?m=137">More Blog Search Engine Optimization Tips and Tricks</a>)</em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/what_is_a_ping.php"></a></span></p><p><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/what_is_a_ping.php"></a><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/what_is_a_ping.php"><strong></strong></a><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/what_is_a_ping.php">What is a Ping Server?</a></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">Whenever you post a new entry to your blog I am pretty sure you tell all your friends. It is also important to tell blog search engines and news aggregators so that they too can check out all your new content. Telling them you have fresh content is called pinging them.</span></p><p>According to the definition on <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://developers.feedster.com/index.php/FeedsterPingServer">Feedster</a>, &#8220;A ping server is a bit of software infrastructure, a server program to be specific, which lets a feed tell us &#8216;I&#8217;ve just updated; please index me now.&#8217; What it receives is a small tidbit of information from a blogging or publishing tool which is called a &#8216;ping&#8217;. Hence the name.&#8221;</p><p>The simple solution is to make sure you visit <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pingomatic.com/">Ping-o-Matic</a> every time you publish a new blog entry. I have already published a <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/02/essential_ping.html">comprehensive list</a> of available ping servers and I will discuss other solutions in future articles.</p><p>Depending on which blog service or which blog software you use, there are simple ways to automate the act of pinging all of the ping servers.</p><p>I plan to delve much more deeply into this very very soon.<span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/06/search_engines.php"></a></span></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #ff6600; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/06/search_engines.php">Search Engines Favor RSS Feed Supported Sites</a></span></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">To paraphrase <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://toprank.blogspot.com/2005/06/rss-for-increased-search-engine.html">Lee Odden</a>, <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">&#8220;RSS feeds get blogroll, inclusion in RSS directories assist with link popularity, Updated RSS feeds are indexed more frequently, RSS output contributes to your freshness, The format of most RSS feeds provides content that&#8217;s easier for search engines to understand.&#8221;</span></em></span></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/basic_seo_for_b.php"></a></span></p><p><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/basic_seo_for_b.php"></a><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/basic_seo_for_b.php"><strong></strong></a><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/basic_seo_for_b.php">Basic SEO for Bloggers Comes a Little Short</a></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">Thanks to <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ProbloggerHelpingBloggersEarnMoney?m=692">Darren</a> for the link to <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.blogherald.com/2005/07/12/basic-seo-tactics-for-bloggers/">Basic SEO tactics for bloggers</a>. That said, it is <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">too basic</span></em>.</span></p><p>It doesn&#8217;t talk much about SEOB (Search Engine Optimization for Blogs) so much as just how to architect your blog. There are so many other tips and tricks.</p><p>I am opening up a text page right now to start writing my own Basic SEO for Blogs because if I am going to tell you that this article is severely limited, I had better suggest something better, right?<span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/i_have_power_ov.php"></a></span></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #ff6600; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><br
style="page-break-before: always;" /></span></strong></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #ff6600; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/i_have_power_ov.php">I Have Power Over Algorithmic Search Engines</a></span></strong></p><p><em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">&#8220;Some time ago, I realized that I have power over google, yahoo and other algorithmic search engines. I can choose words and phrases. And then I can get top ranking for those words in search engine results.&#8221;</span></em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"> <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">Me too</span></em>, and I <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://worcester.typepad.com/pc4media/2005/07/blog_pagerank_w.html">couldn&#8217;t say it better</a> myself. <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://worcester.typepad.com/pc4media/2005/07/blog_pagerank_w.html">PC4Media</a> via <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ProbloggerHelpingBloggersEarnMoney?m=700">ProBlogger</a>.</span></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/10/how_google_prob.html"></a></span></p><p><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/10/how_google_prob.html"></a><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/10/how_google_prob.html"><strong></strong></a><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/10/how_google_prob.html">How Google Probably Ranks Your Site in My Opinion</a></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">Google indexes web pages and then ranks them based on three distinct and equally-weighted aspects. </span></p><p>The first aspect is a trinity which is based on the content of each page: page title, page description and keywords (meta tag data), and page full-text content. A page that has similar content wording (and density) is considered to be legitimate. If a web page has all three components it generally a reliable resource.</p><p>The second aspect is that Google favors web sites that are continually-updated; therefore, a blog is always indexed more often and considered more timely than a static &#8220;brochure&#8221; web site.</p><p>The final and most-important aspect Google uses to favor (and thus rank higher) web pages is each page&#8217;s (and site&#8217;s) link popularity. Link popularity is basically how many other sites link back to a site; in addition, Google goes one step further and considers a number of things to insure that the link popularity isn&#8217;t abused: prestige.</p><p>If an old, high-prestige, high link-popularity web site (or sites) links to a site, it is more beneficial to the site&#8217;s link popularity than if a host of insignificant sites link to a site. Old, popular, and well-trafficked sites always lend their prestige to the site to which they link.</p><p>The three taken together result in the ranking of the site based on a typical Google keyword search.</p><p>You need the content (flash-based and highly graphical pages without well thought out meta tags are virtually invisible to Google), you need the link popularity, and when it comes to it, you need to have new content to show up in the top-ten on Google.</p><p>A popular upstart blog or message board can oftentimes achieve better ranking than a big corporate website, especially if that website is new or has changed the architecture of its website recently (Google considers the sudden and complete change of the architecture and file-structure of a web site really fishy).</p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/never_use_prono.php"></a></span></p><p><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/never_use_prono.php"></a><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/never_use_prono.php"><strong></strong></a><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/03/never_use_prono.php">Never Use Pronouns When You Blog</a></strong></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">First, </span></strong><em><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">never use pronouns</span></strong></em><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">. <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">Keyword density</span></em> is essential to how Google ranks you. <strong><span
style="font-family: Arial;">Second</span></strong>, use variations on search terms.</span></p><p>To illustrate the first two points, I will take a bit of copy and optimize it for search engines and their love for keyword density. Instead of this:</p><p><em>&#8220;Viral marketing is now an essential strategy for every firm. It has become as essential to small and large firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, it has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.&#8221;</em></p><p>Try this:</p><p><em>&#8220;Viral marketing is now an essential marketing strategy for every marketing firm. Viral marketing, also known as relationship marketing, buzz marketing, word-of-mouth marketing, conversational marketing, and passion marketing, has become as essential to small and large marketing firms alike, both for its relative affordability and its potentially high effectivity. With the advent of the Internet, viral marketing has become amazingly efficient: all you need is a laptop and a compelling message.&#8221;</em></p><p>Yes, you&#8217;re appalled by its inefficiency and wordiness. Your boss would never approve, nor would your writing coach. Tough. This is not about winning the <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">PEN/Faulkner</span></em>, its about arousing Google&#8217;s algorythms.<span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 150%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/02/invest_in_googl.php"></a></span></p><p><strong><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #ff6600; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/02/invest_in_googl.php">Invest in Google Sitemap as a Tool for SEO Analysis</a></span></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;">Investing in <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/11/google_sitemap.html">Google Sitemap</a> is worthwhile. For example, the top search query for chrisabraham.com is <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=ladder%20theory&amp;hl=en">ladder theory</a> and the top search query click is <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=nicole%20richie%20diet&amp;hl=en">nicole richie diet</a>.</span></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: #cccccc; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/01/brand_protectio.php"></a></span></p><p><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/01/brand_protectio.php"></a><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/01/brand_protectio.php"><strong></strong></a><strong><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2006/01/brand_protectio.php">Brand Protection on Blogs</a></strong></p><p><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; line-height: 140%; font-family: Arial;"><a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/7780.asp">Andy Sernovitz</a> is spot on when it comes to how to control and manage brand online, especially when it comes to <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newmediastrategies.net/">online brand protection</a>.</span></p><p>It boils down to this:</p><p><strong>Blog search engines such as Technorati, Feedster, and BlogPulse only really care about the last word.</strong> If you can reply to a negative, hurtful, brand hit, then you can dominate the conversation and win the debate, in most cases.</p><p><strong>Google cares about everything but the latest word isn&#8217;t always indexed yet</strong>, so therefore, in the world of Google, the better indexed site always wins. Learn about SEO and Google Sitemaps if you want to compete here.</p><p><strong>You can&#8217;t control online conversation unless you participate.</strong> The only way to get indexed by Google or to show up on Technorati, Feedster, and BlogPulse is to be an online opinion leader who has a site that has made it out of Technorati, Feedster, BlogPulse, Yahoo!, MSN, and Google&#8217;s sandbox, and has an SEO and a Blog Search Engine strategy.</p><p>You have to initiate membership, become part of the conversation, build street cred, have an SEO and blog strategy, and become a respect online opinion leader <em><strong><span
style="font-family: Arial;">before</span></strong></em> something goes awry.</p><p>To quote Mr. Sernovitz, , <em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">&#8220;you&#8217;ll never be able to control the blogosphere conversation. Don&#8217;t even try. You&#8217;ll never be able to manage your blog coverage like you manage the press. Don&#8217;t even try. </span></em><strong><em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">But what you can do is participate, earn respect, and tell your story. Jump in, join the conversation, and be a part of it.</span></em></strong><em><span
style="font-family: Arial;">&#8220;</span></em></p><p>This is my response to a very brilliant and spot-on article. I have nothing to say in contest to it, so stop reading me and go read <a
rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/7780.asp">WOM Tactics: Blogs are Upside Down</a>.</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6954712/" rel="nofollow">Meet the Press</a>, Natan Sharansky debated Pat Buchanan over the book <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586482610" rel="nofollow">A Case for Democracy</a>, about which President Bush admits he is passionate and which the White House intends to use as a foreign policy roadmap for the next four years.  I have yet to read either Mr. Sharansky&#8217;s book or Mr. Buchanan&#8217;s controversial response, <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312341156/chrisabraham" rel="nofollow">Where the Right Went Wrong</a>, but I do have an opinion based wholly on the debate and the <a
href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6954712/" rel="nofollow">transcript of the debate</a>.</p><p>I found myself in strong agreement with a lot of what Pat Buchanan recommended on foreign policy.  For example, &#8220;In my judgment, what happened on 9/11 was a result of interventionism. Interventionism is the cause of terror.  It is not a cure for terror.&#8221;</p><p>The President&#8217;s premise that domestic terrorism is the direct result of envy, jealousy, or insecurity is flawed. As Pat Buchanan states in the interview, &#8220;the United States was not attacked because we are free.  Bin Laden was not attacking the Bill of Rights.  We were attacked because the United&#8211;over here because the United States&#8217; military and political presence is massive over there.  Bin Laden in his fatwah, his statement of declaration of war on the United States, said the infidels were standing on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia.  They want us out of the Middle East.  They don&#8217;t care whether we have a separation of church and state.&#8221;</p><p>All systems reject invasion, even our bodies. Even in the case of a transplanted organ which is welcome, one must continue taking medicine for life in order to keep the body from rejecting the invader, even though the invader is pink, healthy, not poisoned and dying like the original. Internationally, it doesn&#8217;t matter if our prescription, our pink and healthy liver, our strong heart, is going to cure what ails the world, because that just isn&#8217;t the point. Curing the world&#8217;s ills requires that we will need to make sure the patient is constantly taking its &#8220;for the rest of your life&#8221; anti-rejection medications.  Even if this is delivered forcibly under restraint, &#8220;for your own good&#8221; and &#8220;it hurts me more than it hurts you.&#8221;</p><p>One of the obvious outcomes of this stated overt (and not covert) intention &#8220;to help democratic institutions in every region in every nation on earth is a formula for permanent war,&#8221; says Mr. Buchanan,</p><p>Buchanan went on to state very clearly that it is not in America&#8217;s best interest to intervene in affairs of sovereign nation-states, governments that are in fact recognized by the world.  To again quote Pat Buchanan, paraphrasing John Quincy Adams, &#8220;America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy.  She is the champion of freedom everywhere, but the vindicator only of her own.&#8221;</p><p>John Quincy Adams said it better himself, &#8220;America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.&#8221;</p><p>When it comes down to it, there is no legal mandate that we as a nation or as a member of the world government may aggressively pursue this sort of agenda.  Again, Pat Buchanan, &#8220;where in the Constitution do we get the right to intervene in the internal affairs of countries that do not threaten us and do not attack us?  If they don&#8217;t, their internal politics are their own business,&#8221; adding that &#8220;the president of the United States has no constitutional authority to do this.&#8221;</p><p>And even after all that, one might realize that the only form of government that can in fact be transplanted like an organ is an authoritarian dictatorship. In this case I will intentionally misappropriate Senator Charles Grassey&#8217;s quote when he said, in the same episode of <a
href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6954712/" rel="nofollow">Meet the Press</a>, &#8220;I think that there&#8217;s a movement towards freedom that people are naturally born free, they want to be free, and you don&#8217;t impose democracy.  Democracy is natural.  You can only impose dictatorship.&#8221;</p><p>Even though we want to believe that all functioning systems need to have an emergent pattern that is democratic, this is not exclusively the case.  Governments are really visible manifestations of their culture.  There has never really been a long-lasting government that has been out of step with its mother culture.  We know that a family&#8217;s culture is deep and very difficult to influence. A company&#8217;s takes either a lot of time or a total radical amputation to truly change the culture.  Since nation-states are in fact artificial constructs anyway, it is almost impossible to make drastic changes without Draconian measures, the majority of which are morally and ethically offensive and more costly than their intended good.</p><p>My interpretation on this quote is that a Vanguard of Democracy is as futile as a Vanguard of the Proletariat.  That imposing democracy is as futile and as temporary as imposing Marxist-Leninism,  communism, capitalism, or even the free market.  And when this Vanguard of Democracy and the free market system was imposed on Russia, the blowback was arguably the complete dissolution of realpolitik, resulting in an entire country run by the Russian Mafia in a very effective and complete power grab.  Is this democracy?  Where is the Nation-State in a country that can&#8217;t even contain its nuclear assets?  The biggest weak link in the entire underground weapons-grade plutonium economy?  A country that has a larger rift between haves and have nots than ever before, A true playground for the neo robber baron.  Where the super rich can ignore traffic laws if they posses the official flashing blue lights on their Mercedes-Benz S600 sedans.  In the case of Russia, we have a culture that has never known either democracy or freedom, from the Czars to the Communists.  On a systemic level, the Russian system broke under this imposition.</p><p>And there are a surplus of sovereign governments worldwide unready or unwilling to accept an imposed &#8220;freedom,&#8221; &#8220;democracy&#8221; and &#8220;the free market&#8221; systemically from the top-down.  These desires happen in emergence, through bubbling up from the bottom.  From discontent, from desire, from education, and through participation in a global market and global economy.  By willing hearts and minds legitimately as opposed to through heavy-handed coercion.</p><p>So, in that regard, Natan Sharansky&#8217;s naive comment, although correct on the surface, is not a very complex argument, &#8220;I believe that all the people, when given opportunity to choose between living in fear or living in freedom, choose to live in freedom,&#8221;  What he forgot to mention is that his argument doesn&#8217;t include a very important missing piece, which is, &#8220;all things being equal.&#8221;</p><p>I agree with the following premise, &#8220;All things being equal, I believe that all the people, when given opportunity to choose between living in fear or living in freedom, choose to live in freedom.&#8221; But in developing nations, in nations that are still tribal or predominately rural, in nations that don&#8217;t have a history of education or are based on tribalism, monarchy, or religion, and in nations that have high scarcities or are under crushing debt, the resulting unintended consequences of imposing democracy, capitalism, or the free market economy usually results in a situation much worse, or at least much less predictable, than the original.  I hate to use &#8220;better the devil we know than the devil we don&#8217;t&#8221; but the jury is out as to whether an Iraq with no boarders and a forced, unnatural, system of government will  chomp at the bit until it is given an opportunity to revert to something similar but different.</p><p>Again, to quote Pat Buchanan in support of the above &#8212; the devil we know is better than the devil we don&#8217;t theory of foreign policy, &#8220;We cannot make the enemy the best of the good . . . we have had occasions, the last great crusade for democracy was Woodrow Wilson going across the sea with an army to make the world safer. We brought down all the monarchs and we got instead Lenin and Stalin and Mussolini and Hitler.&#8221;</p><div
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