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><channel><title>Chris Abraham &#187; buddies</title> <atom:link href="http://chrisabraham.com/tag/buddies/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chrisabraham.com</link> <description>Because the Medium is the Message</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 17:27:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>If You Build It Will They Come?</title><link>http://chrisabraham.com/2009/02/18/if-your-build-it-will-they-come/</link> <comments>http://chrisabraham.com/2009/02/18/if-your-build-it-will-they-come/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison Case Studies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison Clients]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison LLC]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison Products]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Abraham Harrison Services]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mike Obraitis]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Robin Grant]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Telecom Management]]></category> <category><![CDATA[We Are Social]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Advertisement]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advertiser]]></category> <category><![CDATA[advertisers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Advertising]]></category> <category><![CDATA[alls]]></category> <category><![CDATA[brand]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buddies]]></category> <category><![CDATA[buddy mike]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[cornfield]]></category> <category><![CDATA[digitalized]]></category> <category><![CDATA[embrace]]></category> <category><![CDATA[gap]]></category> <category><![CDATA[giant]]></category> <category><![CDATA[giants]]></category> <category><![CDATA[infinity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Intelligence]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category> <category><![CDATA[kids]]></category> <category><![CDATA[madness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Management]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marketability]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marketer]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marketers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Marketing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Networks]]></category> <category><![CDATA[News]]></category> <category><![CDATA[obraitis]]></category> <category><![CDATA[online]]></category> <category><![CDATA[online communities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[outreach]]></category> <category><![CDATA[outreaches]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Parenting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[parents]]></category> <category><![CDATA[people]]></category> <category><![CDATA[phenomenon]]></category> <category><![CDATA[presence]]></category> <category><![CDATA[promoter]]></category> <category><![CDATA[promoters]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Promotion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Public Relations]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Publicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[salesmanship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[skillz]]></category> <category><![CDATA[social]]></category> <category><![CDATA[socialism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[socialization]]></category> <category><![CDATA[toymaker]]></category> <category><![CDATA[toys]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Tradition]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wal-Mart]]></category> <category><![CDATA[widget]]></category> <category><![CDATA[widgets]]></category><guid
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href="http://wearesocial.net">Robin Grant from We Are Social</a> makes a smashing argument that there is a huge gap between being a toymaker and getting your toys into the hands of children,  <a
href="http://wearesocial.net/blog/2009/02/build-necessarily/" rel="bookmark">Build it and they won’t necessarily come</a>:</p><blockquote><p>There’s a phenomenon whereby normally intelligent people at both digital and traditional agencies decide that people will embrace their new widget or app simply because they’ve built it. It’s as if the Internet were a giant cornfield in Iowa and the mere presence of yet another branded widget or app is enough to get thousands of people clicking.</p></blockquote><p>My buddy <a
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href="http://www.telecommanagement.us/">Telecom Management</a> used to be a toymaker and he and his partner made toys.  Thing is, there&#8217;s an infinity between designing a toy and having it played with, including getting your toys sold in Wal-Mart and making sure kids know about your toy and that their parents buy it for them. All of this requires mad brand promotional skillz.</p><p>Long story short, <em>if you brand it they will come</em>!</p><div
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href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d321c9b6-f85d-11dd-aae8-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1"><strong>A web of deception By David Gelles</strong></a></p><p
class="clearfix" id="floating-target">An overenthusiastic em­ployee from the computer supplies maker Belkin posted an offer online last month – $0.65 for anyone willing to write a positive review of Belkin products on Amazon.com. Several people took up the offer, producing gushing appraisals of Belkin products they had never used.</p><p>After a blogger exposed the scam, news organisations jumped on the story. The offer was removed and Belkin’s president weighed in with an apology.</p><p>The incident was a public relations disaster for Belkin. It was also a prime example of “Astroturfing”, the unsavoury marketing practice of generating fake grassroots enthusiasm for a product.</p><p><img
src="http://media.ft.com/cms/038276e2-f844-11dd-aae8-000077b07658.jpg" alt="038276e2 f844 11dd aae8 000077b07658 Social Media and Blogging Ethics and a Code of Conduct" style="margin: 0px 9px 0px 0px" align="left" width="180" height="257" title="Social Media and Blogging Ethics and a Code of Conduct" />Given the anonymity afforded by the internet, it is hardly surprising that deceptive marketing is on the rise. Consumers are spending more time online and companies are seeking new ways to reach them.</p><p>But now, in an effort to regulate how employees behave on the web, companies and industry groups are developing their own online codes of ethics. They want to ensure that when staff do engage with social media, they act ethically.</p><p>Last year, Coca-Cola established its own set of social media guidelines and distributed them in a memo to all employees. The policy emphasises the need for transparency and encourages employees to use common sense when discussing the brand online. “We’ve always had very diverse channels to reach consumers,” says Adam Brown (pictured), digital communications director. “Wherever they are, that’s where we go. That’s now evolved into the need for a social media policy.”</p><p>So when Mr Brown went online to promote Coca-Cola’s Super Bowl advertisements, he followed the guidelines. On Facebook, Mr Brown announced that he was a Coke employee and pointed other users to the Coke ads on YouTube. On Pittsburgh Steelers fan forums, Mr Brown, who is from Pittsburgh, named his employer and then directed fans to the Coke blog, which had an interview with Steelers’ defensive star Troy Polamalu.</p><p>Mr Brown said more deliberate engagement with online conversations was a necessity for a global company such as Coca-Cola. “We’re mentioned several thousand times a day on blogs, and there are several hundred tweets about us on Twitter,” he says. “There is a lot of conversation taking place about our brand without us. Where appropriate, we wanted to start getting involved.”</p><p>Companies began interacting with social media years ago. But only recently have those involved with the industry perceived a need to develop ethical standards. Among the first to do so was The Word of Mouth Marketing Association, an organisation for the viral and buzz marketing industry. <a
href="http://womma.org/ethicscode/code/" class="bodystrong" target="_blank">Womma published an ethics code</a> in 2005, emphasising honesty of relationship, opinion and identity.</p><p>Since then, many companies have used the Womma code as a blueprint for their own guidelines. “Companies are learning every day that there is a right way and a wrong way to engage with social media,” says Paul Rand, vice-president of Womma’s board and head of its ethics project. “Some companies are learning by touching the burning pot; some companies are learning from the mistakes of ­others.”</p><p>One company that “touched the burning pot” is Shelfari, a social networking site for book lovers, owned by Amazon. As it battled for market share in late 2007, it came under fire for its poor design and clunky user interface. Soon, comments appeared on more than 50 blogs attesting to Shelfari’s greatness. “I have been on Shelfari for a couple of months now and absolutely love it,” read one. “Shelfari is such a great site. I joined a couple of months ago and I have been hooked on it ever since,” read another.</p><p>But all the comments were posted by the same user, “schaufferwaffer”, who was soon exposed as a Shelfari employee. Shelfari’s chief executive admitted to the Astroturfing (he blamed it on an intern who knew no better), and promised it would never happen again.</p><p>Such behaviour is declared out of line in the “disclosure best practices toolkit”, an ethics code drawn up by the Blog Council, an organisation for heads of social media at big companies. The document advises employees and agencies to announce whom they work for when communicating with blogs or bloggers. It also encourages employees to provide a means for contacting them directly, if someone they interact with via social media wants to follow up with a two-way conversation. The toolkit also warns against using pseudonyms.</p><p>IBM was one of the first companies to develop its own social media policy. In 2005, it published its “social computing guidelines”, which insist that employees write under their own names, using the first person, and make it clear they are speaking for themselves and not on behalf of IBM. It also prohibits employees from referencing clients, partners or suppliers without their approval.</p><p>UPS is developing its own online ethics policy after recognising how damaging Astro­turfing and other online misbehaviour can be for a company’s reputation. “If one of our airplanes goes down, we have a very clear plan for getting information to the media,” says Norman Black, director of global media services. “We realised we did not have a good plan for responding to a crisis on the ­internet.”</p><p>In some countries, deceptive marketing practices are not only frowned upon but also illegal. In the UK, the law identifies “falsely representing oneself as a consumer” as a punishable offence. And in 2006, the US Federal Trade Commission issued regulations stating that word-of-mouth marketers must disclose their relationships. But in spite of these new rules there has been little enforcement of the measures.</p><p>Even without prosecution, Belkin seems to have learnt its lesson. Melody Chalaban, speaking for the company, says Belkin will soon be holding seminars to teach employees how to interact ethically with social media, and is also considering joining Womma. “We want to stress that this is an isolated incident,” says Ms Chalaban. “We don’t endorse or condone unethical practices like this.”</p><p><strong><u>Side Bar:</u> The last post: underhand tactics can end in a PR disaster</strong></p><blockquote><p
class="container clearfix"><u><strong><span
class="bodystrong"><span
class="bullet">* </span>Flogging</span>.</strong></u> Fake blogs can help companies get a personal voice behind a marketing campaign – but they risk a PR disaster if they are uncovered. When Sony tried to boost sales of its PSP portable gaming unit, it started a blog supposedly by two boys who wanted PSPs for Christmas. When it was revealed as a fake, Sony apologised and took it down.</p><p><span
class="bodystrong"><u><strong><span
class="bullet">* </span>Astroturfing</strong></u>.</span> A technique that gets its name from the practice of generating fake grassroots enthusiasm. One Florida company, PayPerPost, serves as a matchmaker between companies willing to pay for good press and bloggers willing to plug products that they have never used. After receiving criticism, PayPerPost now requires bloggers to disclose that their posts are sponsored.</p><p><u><strong><span
class="bodystrong"><span
class="bullet">* </span>Comment spamming.</span></strong></u> Flooding the comment fields of blogs with enthusiastic notes about a company, even with full disclosure, is not welcomed by web users. When a Motorola employee commented on dozens of posts on a technology blog – each comment a plug for the new Motorola Krave – bloggers responded with snide criticisms of his spamming, which duly ceased.</p></blockquote><p
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I hate SNS sites like boompa.com – a site devoted to your favorite cars – because I am not JUST a car guy.</p><p>I am a car guy for sure but I am also interested in rowing, in biking, in Thomas Pynchon, and in talk radio – Boompa might be successful in the short term, but in the long-term, the real power would come from creating a open, creative, resource-rich platform/campus/university/high school and maybe create a school of engineering, a liberal arts school, a law school, a dining hall, and so forth, but then allow the SNS to find itself.</p><p>To allow the SNS and its members to find their own voice, their own interests, and their own passions – which may well be very different from what is first assumed by the creator. Google gets this, though not yet within the construct of the SNS’s. What Google did do successfully was to buy USENET – the original newsgroups – and then build an superstructure on top of that – make it modern, sustainable, durable, and more readable.</p><p>Google returned USENET to relevance in a world that considered newsgroups and IRC to be dead or dying. Each and every one of communities on USENET is amazingly vertical, but they could all back up and back out to the larger USENET community – to the equivalent of the “welcome new students??? meetings and gatherings colleges offer to entering Freshmen.</p><p>Communities that are too vertical tend to shoe horn the “general topics??? conversations into hidden “off topic??? eddies. That is just the opposite of what should be done. The conversation should be general, cross-pollinating, and then move, after a conversation starts, into another room.</p><p>Start with an amazing platform, collect users, listen and watch them to see how they’re playing with the software application objects, widgets, and tools (are they playing with the toy or the box?), and then build for the users base, withholding judgment. Digg is a case study for this: start small, grow organically, and allow your members to find themselves.</p><p>The developers of Digg realized that after initial vertical growth based on the general members of Slashdot (techie, geeky, teens, boys), digg would suffer from the same sort of vulnerabilities that Slashdot suffered when Slashdot didn’t evolve and grow and broaden itself.</p><p>People love talking about Linux, but when happens when the Dow drops or the elections come? Where will the conversation happen? Where is the “kitchen??? at the party where every eventually goes to just talk about general interest stuff? Unless there are opportunities to express and share so-called “off-topic??? conversation right there, within the community in which members are already committed, with members to whom they’re already committed, then they are bound to go elsewhere.</p><p>Starting small and allowing the community to design itself is much different than starting big and losing one’s focus. Other mistakes happen when community builders make assumptions as to what participants, members, and lurkers want. Another mistake is putting a wall up around the community so that non-members cannot get a full feeling for the community from without.</p><p>The best SNS’s, virtual worlds, and online communities are honeypots. By honeypot, I am not suggesting, “a server that is configured to detect an intruder by mirroring a real production system. It appears as an ordinary server doing work, but all the data and transactions are phony. Located either in or outside the firewall, the honeypot is used to learn about an intruder’s techniques as well as determine vulnerabilities in the real system.” Although I am, sort of. The best SNS needs to be appealing, attractive, sweet, and compelling. Community-builders and SNS ASP developers need to be willing learn about member techniques, interests, processes, and needs, as well as determine “vulnerabilities” in the SNS platform that may repel, turn off, or limit the evolution and growth of the community.</p><p>To channel Chauncey Gardener for a second, one must do whatever one must to make sure that the earth in the garden is moist and well fed, one must seed well and completely, one must keep the garden in sun and water, one must encourage the garden to grow as it will for only in its growth will the garden be successful, and then, after rigorous growth, pruning and weeding must be done, only in order to allow the garden to be healthy, not to turn the garden into topiary. Okay, I am done.</p><p>Digg allows all of these things. Digg is perfectly useful and compelling even as an alien, but it is way more fun and interesting when you’re a citizen, that’s for sure. An SNS community needs to be as attractive as possible because exclusivity is no longer essential or even valuable. What is valuable is “useful,??? “interesting,??? and “authentic.??? They also have to have community buy-in and the best enjoy a certain fanatical devotion. Just like the best Universities and Colleges.</p><p>And Digg allowed its member to tell it when it was time to evolve past tech and geek news. Digg did not limit its scope or define itself too tightly with being “gear for geeks??? or “news for nerds.??? That would have ultimately been the death of Digg.</p><p>What the best Universities (such as Yale) understand is that it is not the student who is blessed and honored by being accepted by a top college (Yale College) but rather it is the college that should be blessed and honored (and should be grateful) that such a quality student is accepting its offers and actually attending – choosing – their particular school: Yale instead of Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, Dartmouth, Stanford, Columbia, Berkeley, etc…</p><p>Harvard, too, is aware that although in the short-term Harvard makes the Harvard Man, over the long term, it is Harvard Men who made Harvard and continue to make Harvard. “Who have you graduated recently???? Unless the quality and character of its students and alumni remain top-drawer, Harvard is not guaranteed its position as “top three??? in USA Today alongside Princeton and Yale. No matter how grand its endowment.</p><p>So, Harvard and Yale spoil their students rotten! My friends who attended Harvard or Yale college swoon over those 4 years like I swoon over my first love.</p><p>Likewise, SNS’s, virtual worlds, and virtual communities need to realize that at any one point, their brand is only as good as the collective that is manifest in the users, the members, the lurkers, the stewards, and the alumni of the property.</p><p>This isn’t only true in SNS’s. The same thing can be said of the most successful message boards and online communities. The most important distinction, I think, is that all of these “rooms” and all of these “clubs” and all of these spaces where (and are) defined and created by the communities themselves. Sui generis. And this sort of ownership – “for us by us,??? as the slogan goes over as Howard Rheingold’s Brainstorms community – should never be underestimated.</p><p>The Well has Howard Rheingold as a member and alumnus, for example, and the credibility of all that he has made and done; over time, more and more virtual communities, virtual worlds, and SNS will be known for their members as well: who studies, who studied, and who wants to join.</p><p>“What’s in it for me??? (WIIFM) and the concept of pride of ownership are important – essential – ingredients of a sustainable, deep, thriving, and healthy community. The success of MySpace and of Facebook is that the verticals are not (were not) defined for them by their grand architects – they are self-creating, self-forming, and also self-destructing. They form, reform, mutate and disperse after they hit a limit of general conversation and then either break off and reform into an “interest group” or “club” or they self-check and work to “get back on topic.”</p><p>SNS’s and communities in general tend to be formed in one of two ways: like Paris or like London. Intelligence Design (architecture) or Emergent Design. The later never looks very beautiful or the way people – or the creators, investors, and architects – expect (or want) it to look, because investors and designers tend to not be able to control it – and when they do try to impost order, often in a heavy-handed way, they also tend to scare off all of their members, too.</p><p>This organic revolution has proven its success online time and time again. The Internet does not respond (well or at all) to command and control. The smartest Web 2.0 platforms allow the “masses of asses” (yes, the customer; yes, us) to define the platform and the experience – their own and collective environment and experience.</p><p>MySpace does this amazingly well and so does Facebook. Until recently, Friendster suffered from a vision and used command and control tactics to try to coerce its users that “it didn’t really want to do things that way??? and Friendster members abandoned in droves to platforms and experiences not so monitored by “mom and dad.???</p><p>A command and control grand vision doesn’t work when you develop an environment that needs to be truly both attractive and compelling much more than it needs to be informational or instructional. An SNS needs to be attractive, diversional, compelling, amusing, and entertaining &#8211; never limiting.</p><p>My analogy of college and high school never mentioned classrooms or classes for training or learning. People do enough of that at school and at work. An SNS needs to give its users a university campus without any expectations or concepts of dropping out, getting judged, doing homework, or being held accountable for anything.</p><p>A good SNS should be all late-night wine-influenced discussions of Descartes and Plato and the summer afternoons on the quad and the time playing Xbox with your roommates.</p><p>When I go onto my long-term online communities, the Well, The Meta Network, USENET, and Brainstorms, there are many very deep and very vertical communities, discussing things as frivolous as fashion and video games and as deep as how to survive cancer, how to get a post doc grant, and very deep discussions on “spirit,” “chaos theory,” and “world politics.”</p><p>What makes this amazing and sustainable is that there are an infinite number of ways to get along, to move into a space of intense conversation, and then to pull back into common areas, just to see who’s around. In a university setting, this could be the dining hall, the quad, the commons, etc. These spaces are very important.</p><p>If you think about all of this in terms of evolution, then we can think about the way things evolve in the most perverse ways when isolated from others of its kinds. So, if there are impervious walls – gaps or voids, mountains or ridges – between these vertical markets, SNS’s, and communities, then there may be an initial success, but there can also be a terrible volatility. One plague or drought can decimate a population completely.</p><p>Having a commons allows members and visitors to have a place to meet new people, have new experiences, and learn of new clubs, new opportunities, and new places &#8211; inbreeding versus crossbreeding. Ultimately, a diversity of visitors helps build a more resilient, invested, and self-identifing community. They will become “students for life??? at best and proud alums at worst. They will carry the brand awareness, even if their lives become too busy to participate any more.</p><p>They will become life long brand ambassadors for your community. Proud alumni.</p><p>And, in terms of “viral marketing,” it is also important when it comes to a member of an SNS “inviting his friends” – not all of my friends have the same vertical interests that I do… They could have very different interests – but as I explore the “commons” of an SNS, I can note that there are things happening online that “friend x” and “friend y” would love, and that would be my incentive to invite them on board.</p><p>Boompa? I am the only person I know in my entire community – that is not true, my buddy has an Audi S4 – who is into cars. My buddy is an Audi driver and I am a BMW driver. Does that mean we’re both drivers? Does that mean we love cars or our particular car? Do we cross over on performance sedans? On German cars? On luxury cars?</p><p>You have to offer the tools to allow the market to choose for itself, otherwise, you might never find out that the SNS needs all three, or none at all.</p><p>A “Modularized SNS” should be neutral like a university (unlike MySpace, which is pretty pre-defined as to what the demographic is), and there are lots of “vertical niche SNS’s” (e.g. car enthusiasts, gourmet cooking, travel, <a
href="http://www.djbwatches.com/">Rolex</a> fans, Republican politicos, etc.) That way, everyone can form a SNS experience that actually fits them by modularly assembling the groups of people who have similar interests, (not just friends-in-common!)</p><div
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href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/01/20/knife-porn-four-year.html">guest blog post on Boing Boing Gadgets</a> about the ultimate gadget, my hand-made, bespoke, Randall Model 1 knife &#8212; many thanks to my buddy <span
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class="entry-meta"><strong><a
href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/01/20/knife-porn-four-year.html">Knife Porn: Four years waiting and one month with the Randall Model 1 Fighting Knife</a><span
class="byline"> Posted by <a
href="http://dynamic.boingboing.net/profile/John%20Brownlee">John Brownlee</a></span></strong><a
href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/01/20/knife-porn-four-year.html" class="permalink"></a></p><p
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href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/3139975976_9808395855_b.jpg"><img
src="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/3139975976_9808395855_b-thumb-520x181.jpg" alt="3139975976 9808395855 b thumb 520x181 Knife Pornography From Boing Boing Gadgets" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block" width="520" height="181" title="Knife Pornography From Boing Boing Gadgets" /></a></span> <span
class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image"><a
href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/3139977500_c6197a1a8f_b.jpg"><img
src="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/3139977500_c6197a1a8f_b-thumb-520x150.jpg" alt="3139977500 c6197a1a8f b thumb 520x150 Knife Pornography From Boing Boing Gadgets" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block" width="520" height="150" title="Knife Pornography From Boing Boing Gadgets" /></a></span></p><p><strong>Guest Review by <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/">Chris Abraham</a></strong></p><p> After four years, I finally received my bespoke, <a
href="http://www.randallknives.com/construction.php">hand-made</a>, Randall <a
href="http://www.randallknives.com/catalog.php?action=modeldetail&amp;id=25">Model 1 &#8220;All-Purpose Fighting Knife.&#8221;</a> Unstead of tearing right into the box, I paused and filmed a <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDyUqOAlCc">nine-minute unboxing video</a> and took some photos of the knife — knife porn.</p><p> There are two iconic fighting knives known the world over for their service in World War II. The British <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbairn-Sykes_fighting_knife">Sykes-Fairbairn dagger</a> and the American style of fighting knife, inspired both by the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie_knife">Bowie</a> and the American hunting knife. There was one knife, above all other, that I coveted&#8230; coveted not just because it was considered &#8220;the best&#8221; by all of the knife magazines I bought but also because it was associated with doing hard service during World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. That knife was the Randall Model #1.</p><p> Because I wanted a Randall that was as authentic to the knives that have <a
href="http://www.randallcollector.com/brochure.htm">served our military since WWII</a>, I ordered the Randall with a carbon blade, since it predates stainless steel. There are some challenges associated with owning and using a carbon steel knife, be it in the kitchen or in the field.</p><p> First, they can — and do — rust. Since rust is normal with daily use out in the field, don&#8217;t freak out if it happens to you. A little sandpaper should do the trick if the rusting isn&#8217;t too bad.</p><p> Second, even if you spend the time and attention required to make sure your knife remains dry and sealed under a light coating of oil, there is still the issue of discoloration. Unlike stainless, carbon steel reacts with the things it touches. The acids and oils of the leather sheath could discolor the blade. Cutting meat will discolor the blade, too.</p><p> The instructions also suggest that cutting meat with the carbon blade results in discoloration, so you&#8217;re pretty much screwed unless you don&#8217;t use your Randall at all. Luckily, that&#8217;s not true. Go ahead and use it, if you&#8217;re not a strict collector — it was meant to be man-handled. Like I said above, all of the discoloration can be easily polished out of your knife. Working carbon knives always end up looking a little like they were made of silver because of the way silver tarnishes.</p><p> When I received the knife, the blade was coated with a light oil. The instructions recommend keeping the blade dry and lubricated with WD-40. After I posted the <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDyUqOAlCc">unboxing video</a> on YouTube, someone commented that I should be really careful with the carbon steel blade and not store the knife in the leather scabbard but rather keep the blade (but not the handle) wrapped in an oil cloth.</p><p> And how does it feel? Perfectly-balanced. It&#8217;s right where it&#8217;s supposed to be: the shiny brass hilt rests the handle right on your forefinger, as it should.</p><p> There is an after-market for Randall knives if you&#8217;re unwilling to wait for 4-years for one like I did. I checked out <a
href="http://www.agrussell.com/randall-model-1-with-black-micarta-handle/p/RAhhhM1B7S/">A.G. Russell</a>, a popular knife store, and I found the Randall Model 1 for $600. Instant gratification for Randalls generally starts at $600 for a brand new knife of someone else&#8217;s design, usually with a micarta or stag handle, and quickly tops out at thousands for a specialty, rare, or vintage knife. If you want a knife made by Bo Randall himself, it will cost: older Randall knives are worth five to fifteen times their value.</p><p> These are collectors knives, that&#8217;s for sure. If you explore the <a
href="http://www.randallknives.com/catalog.php">catalog</a>, you&#8217;ll get a feel how extensively you can pimp your knife. I ordered mine plain vanilla &#8220;traditional&#8221; with the pressed-leather handle, 7&#8243; blade, and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duralumin">Duralumin</a> butt cap. Some options I could have requested were a longer or shorter blade in stainless steel. There&#8217;s an assortment of brass <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilt">hilt</a> shapes and sizes along with a myriad of handle types, including bone, tusk, horn, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micarta">micarta</a> (a mixture of layered linen and resin), or just about anything else that could be shoehorned onto the full <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_%28weaponry%29">tang</a>.</p><p> I don&#8217;t know if I like the big and bulky sharpening stone pocket on the front of the sheath since I don&#8217;t plan on being far enough in the wilderness to not be able to come home to sharpen the knife. I did a little research and you can get just about anything you want from Randall, including getting the sheath without the stone pouch, although a replacement sheath from Randall costs almost two-hundred dollars, nearly the cost of the knife itself. If my Google searches are true, you can even get sheaths in other leathers and colors, including ostrich, alligator, and zebra. All I need to know is the length of the blade, which is a very standard and popular 7&#8243; (8&#8243; is also very popular).</p><p> The man behind Randall Made Knives, <a
href="http://www.knifeworld.com/randallstory.html">W.D. Bo Randall</a>, started making hand-forged knives as a hobby back in 1937 and started selling them in the years leading up to World War II. A reporter wrote a story about Bo during the early years of the war and there was so much demand for his fighting knife, now known as the Model 1, that Bo became a full-time knife-maker. According the website, Bo Randall hand-crafted each knife no matter how much demand or the temptation to mass-produce. Throughout WWII, the knives became legendary. Ronald Reagan carried a Randall Model 1 knife.</p><p> And, if you ever have a chance to buy a used Randall on the cheap, don&#8217;t reject a knife just because it&#8217;s rusted or the sheath is rotted. Some oil, a fine grit emery cloth or steel wool, a little polish, and you&#8217;re good to go. These knives were made for duty so there isn&#8217;t a lot you can do to &#8220;kill&#8221; the knife. And, if the knife looks a little far gone, don&#8217;t worry, you can probably find a knife-maker in your area who can fix it up by reshaping the blade and restoring the bits and pieces. If you want to restore your Randall in style, to this day you can buy replacement sheaths from the company, made to order. Additionally, you can send your Randall home to Orlando, Florida, where it was born, they can do a lovely job restoring it.</p><p> Why did I buy a knife like this? Well, that&#8217;s an odd thing, and the reason dates back over 24 years to when I was a strapping teen. When I was in high school, during the mid- to late-80s, <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2007/04/17/my-experience-as-a-jrotc-ranger-in-high-school-in-hawaii/#title">I was a teenage commando</a>. I went to an all-boys Catholic school in Hawaii called <a
href="http://www.saintlouishawaii.org/">Saint Louis School</a> and we had an JROTC program that I joined because it was either that, PE, or band (shudder). After joining JROTC I joined the <a
href="http://www.saintlouishawaii.org/ourschoolsites/clubs.php">Ranger club</a>. On the surface the Rangers were a bunch of boys who did calisthenics and ran around campus and were entitled to wear black berets and bloused jump boots on the days every member of JROTC was required to skulk around school in Class-A Army uniforms. Still, that wasn&#8217;t all the Rangers did. We also spent weekends playing the part of Opposition Forces (OPFOR) for Hawaii&#8217;s National Guard and Army Reserve. As part of all that, we were issued camouflaged fatigues (BDUs), <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALICE_pack#Current">ALICE packs</a>, web gear, and M-16s. Yes, real M-16s with real banana clips and real brass casings filled with real smokeless gunpowder, but without bullets with a <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank-firing_adaptor">blank-firing adaptor</a>.</p><p> I was motivated and dedicated. I became obsessed with everything military. I bought copies of SOF and shopped at Army surplus stores. We all prized authentic gear and many of us bought <a
href="http://www.fatiguesarmynavy.com/store/item/VV1401/Vintage_Vietnam_Era__O_D__Ripstop_Jungle_Jacket">Vietnam-era slash-pocket OD fatigues</a> and <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KA-BAR">Ka-Bar knives</a>. I was obsessed with knives and started a collection.</p><p> That was 1984. I didn&#8217;t end up ordering my own Randall until twenty-years later while I was supposed to be working for Pete Snyder at New Media Strategies during the Summer of 2004. I put down $50 as a down payment, clicked &#8220;order&#8221; and then obsessed about it for nearly five years! I paid off the balance of $264.00 about a year ago. It was supposed to be delivered in June but I received a letter letting me know that delivery had been delayed until October.</p><p> Why does a knife take four-years? One of the reasons my order, #57224, order date September 2004, took so long is because I ordered my knife in a time of war. Randall Made Knives is a purveyor of hunting knives during peacetime; however, during a time of war, most of their capacity is spent on providing for our troops. According to their <a
href="http://www.randallknives.com/faq.php#7">FAQ</a>, &#8220;<em>spare time and space is devoted to filling military knife orders for our active military customers.</em> I think that&#8217;s fair, since the Model 1 was a military knife from the very beginning.</p><p> It was finally ready for delivery while I was in Berlin so I had the knife FedExed to my mom&#8217;s house in Arlington, Virginia, and counted the days until I returned home for Christmas. I arrived on Christmas eve but kept it in my pants until Christmas day, when I took this unboxing video and these photos.</p><p> After four years, the knife more than lives up to my expectations, especially since there were a couple of cool surprises that I didn&#8217;t know about, including red, white, and blue patriotic spacers between the hilt and the pressed-leather handle and between the handle and the Duralumin butt cap — I&#8217;ll photograph it with my Nokia N95 camera phone. To be frank, I have been waiting for this Randall Model #1 for twenty-four-years, since I fell in love with this perfect thing back when I was a Freshman in high school.</p><p> Worth the wait? Yes! Any hype associated with the entire experience? No, I don&#8217;t think so at all. It couldn&#8217;t be better-crafted or more beautiful. I am no longer a knife collector — or an anything collector — so the only two remaining knives in my collection is a <a
href="http://www.coldsteel.com/tantoseries.html">Cold Steel Tanto</a> I got back in 1983 and this Randall Model 1.</p><p> <strong>Randall Made Knife Unboxing Porn</strong></p><p><center><object
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/><em>When not waiting four years for a knife to be hand crafted for him, drunkenly stumbling away with me from a disreputable Berlin pub, or being one of the sweetest and smartest guys it is my pleasure to know, <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/">Chris Abraham</a> runs a crackerjack conversational marketing firm, <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/">Abraham Harrison</a>. This technically makes him a scumbag, but I love him anyway.</em></p></blockquote><div
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href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/84b63f98-e7df-11dd-b2a5-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1">New corporate firefighters</a>. Sadly for me, he can&#8217;t shamelessly promote my company, <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com">Abraham Harrison LLC</a>, because he has &#8216;journalistic integrity;&#8217; however, it is awesome he works there because he writes awesomely-accessible articles about my space, including social media marketing, social media PR, blogger engagement, Twitter, and also the world of online and social media crisis-response.  It is amazing!  I beat up <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">Pepsi Max over on AdAge</a> and a couple weeks later, Gelles writes an article about the space.  I am both amazingly proud and a little paranoid!</p><blockquote><p><a
href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/84b63f98-e7df-11dd-b2a5-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1"><strong>New corporate firefighters By David Gelles<br
/> </strong></a><br
/> When advertisers launched a campaign last September for the pain reliever Motrin, they hoped to attract the attention of mothers whose backs might be sore from wearing baby-carriers. The advertisements implied that while baby-carriers might be fashionable, hauling a child around could be painful.</p><p>Mothers were not amused. Soon after the ads were released, anti-Motrin campaigns appeared on Facebook and blogs. Outraged mums, furious at the suggestion that their babies were a hassle, posted rebuttal videos on YouTube. Through Twitter, the micro-blogging service, thousands of people attacked the company.</p><p>Motrin was caught off-guard. For days, no company representative replied. Critics accused the company of being not only insensitive but also unresponsive.</p><p>Eventually a marketing executive at McNeil Consumer Healthcare, the subsidiary of Johnson &amp; Johnson that markets Motrin, e-mailed individual bloggers to apologise for the campaign. But the damage was done.</p><p>Jeanette Gibson of CiscoThe &#8220;Motrin moms&#8221; episode illustrates the power of social media &#8212; the expanding network of websites that allow users to interact with each other and, increasingly, with companies. It also demonstrates the perils for enterprises that are unprepared to interact with social media.</p><p>But now a growing number of companies, including Ford Motor, PepsiCo, Wells Fargo and Dell, are creating new high-level jobs to ready themselves for engagement with social media, with titles such as director of social media, head of communities and conversation, vice-president of experiential marketing and digital communications manager. The role of these new executives is to monitor and influence what is being said about their companies on the internet.</p><p>Johnson &amp; Johnson made its own appointment in the wake of the Motrin debacle. Having already dabbled in social media, in December the company promoted Marc Monseau, a 10-year company veteran and former director of media relations, to director of social media. &#8220;My responsibility is to work with the corporate office and the individual companies to better interact online,&#8221; Mr Monseau says. &#8220;It underscores the fact that we realise this is an important audience and one that we need to develop relationships with.&#8221;</p><p>These new jobs represent a broad shift in media relations strategy at large companies. &#8220;Corporate communications has radically changed,&#8221; says Andy Sernovitz, chief executive of the Blog Council, an organisation for heads of social media at big companies. &#8220;It’s no longer just companies talking to the press, and customer service talking to customers. All these other people showed up in the ­middle. They may not be press and they may not be customers, but suddenly their collective voice is bigger than the traditional channels.&#8221;</p><p>The essence of social media is conversation. Rather than a one-way stream of information, where companies make announcements to the press and customers, social media enables a great deal of interaction, where companies are in constant dialogue with the public. &#8220;We’ve seen a shift from doing things the old way to now having conversations with our customers,&#8221; says Jeanette Gibson, director of new media for Cisco Systems (pictured).</p><p>Ms Gibson, who began her job in 2007, says there is now a mandate at Cisco that all staff be attuned to what is being said about Cisco online. &#8220;It has definitely shifted how we’ve done communications,&#8221; she says. &#8220;Our executives are video blogging every day. Everybody’s job is now social media.&#8221;</p><p>Dell, the computer maker, has one of the most robust corporate social media programmes. Bob Pearson, former senior vice-president of corporate communications, became vice-president of communities and conversation for Dell in 2007.</p><p>He now has 45 people working for him. The core team works on &#8220;blog resolution&#8221; &#8212; trawling the web for dissatisfied customers, then attempting to contact them to make amends. Others on Dell’s social media team manage the company’s 80 Twitter accounts and 20 Facebook pages. Still others manage IdeaStorm, Dell’s forum for customer feedback.</p><p>Dell is taking its customer feedback seriously. When the company launched the Latitude laptop last summer, six of the features, including backlit keyboard and fingerprint reader, were ideas that came from IdeaStorm. &#8220;It’s always worth talking directly with your customers. It’s always worth listening to them,&#8221; says Mr Pearson. &#8220;It’s the wisdom of crowds.&#8221;</p><p>Peter Shankman, a social media expert and founder of Help a Reporter Out, a service that broadcasts reporters’ requests to a network of experts, says many companies are still reluctant to get involved: &#8220;Companies are slow to adapt because they’re still not 100 per cent sure they can make money with social media,&#8221; he says.</p><p>Yet Dell, for one, has made a business of it. By broadcasting discount alerts on Twitter, it says, it has generated more than $1m in sales. And in the US, 59 of the 100 leading retailers, including Best Buy and Wal-Mart, now have a fan page on Facebook, according to Rosetta, an interactive marketing agency.</p><p>Other savings can be realised through the Web’s ability to reach many people at once. &#8220;If you solve someone’s problem on the phone, nobody knows,&#8221; says Mr Sernovitz. &#8220;If you solve that same problem in writing on a blog, it costs you no more, but thousands of people are satisfied. And then, if 100 people never call because they found the answer, you very, very quickly get to multimillion-dollar savings.&#8221;</p><p>Other companies are using Twitter to douse public relations fires before they erupt. Scott Monty, head of social media for Ford Motors, used Twitter to appease users who were angry after the carmaker sued an enthusiast website that was selling unauthorised Ford merchandise. When fans of the enthusiast site posted angry messages, Mr Monty &#8220;tweeted back&#8221; to explain the company’s position.</p><p>Bonin Bough, who was appointed director of social media for PepsiCo last year, also used Twitter to defuse a brewing crisis after the company released a series of advertisements depicting a cartoon calorie character committing suicide.</p><p>&#8220;Social media is much more than getting out there and having conversations,&#8221; says Mr Pearson of Dell. &#8220;It transforms a business if you use it correctly.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div
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href="http://davidgelles.com/">David Gelles</a> is now a <a
href="http://search.ft.com/search?queryText=gelles&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&amp;aje=true&amp;dse=&amp;dsz=">Technology reporter and blogger</a> for the Financial Times and I was so happy to see David writing about Twitter PR, something very dear to my heart, <a
href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/607a9a28-d6a2-11dd-9bf7-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1">Companies use Twitter to pack PR punch</a>, including <a
href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/12/27/what-scott-monty-has-taught-me/">Scott Monty of Ford</a> as well as the gang from <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">PepsiCo&#8217;s Pepsi Max controversy</a>:</p><blockquote><p
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href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/607a9a28-d6a2-11dd-9bf7-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1">Companies use Twitter to pack PR punch</a>  </strong><br
/> By David Gelles in San Francisco</p><p>Published: December 30 2008 19:16 | Last updated: December 30 2008 19:16</p><p
class="ft-story-body">Twitter, a booming micro-blogging service, is inspiring business to manage its message in 140 characters or less.</p><p>Its streams of short text messages, publicly broadcast over the web, are being treated as the new frontline of internet conversation. Companies including <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:F" symbol="us:F">Ford</a></strong> and <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:PEP" symbol="us:PEP">PepsiCo</a></strong> have been dousing public relations fires with pithy communication bursts to the Twitter community.</p><p>“There’s a rapid-fire element to Twitter that causes conversations to go viral when something bad happens with a company,” says Jackie Huba, co-founder of the Society for Word of Mouth, an organisation that monitors social media. “Companies that have a Twitter account are prepared. If something goes wrong they can respond.”</p><p>PepsiCo turned to Twitter this month after users began posting criticisms of a Pepsi Max advertisement, which depicted a cartoon calorie committing suicide.</p><p>Huw Gilbert, communications manager for PepsiCo International, “tweeted”, or posted a public message, in reply. “Huw from Pepsi here,” he wrote. “We agree this creative is totally inappropriate; we apologise and please know it won’t run again.”</p><p>Critics saw Mr Gilbert’s post, with one “tweeting” back: “Thank you?.?.?.?for having the guts to get on Twitter on behalf of Pepsi and give us an update on the suicide ad.”</p><p>Such personal interaction from a company representative helps defuse a crisis, says Ms Huba. “People like feeling like they’re being heard,” she says.</p><p>Scott Monty, head of social media for Ford Motors, used Twitter to deflect criticism away from the carmaker after it filed suit against an enthusiast website that was selling unauthorised Ford decals. Fans of the site posted angry messages but Mr Monty used Twitter to explain the company’s position.</p><p>“Part of my job is to humanise the company – you want to interact,” Mr Monty says.</p><p><strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:SBUX" symbol="us:SBUX">Starbucks</a></strong>, <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:CMCSA" symbol="us:CMCSA">Comcast</a></strong>, <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:JBLU" symbol="us:JBLU">JetBlue</a></strong> and <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:HD" symbol="us:HD">Home Depot</a></strong> are among companies using Twitter accounts to promote products and provide customer service.</p><p>Bob Pearson, head of communities and conversation for <strong><a
href="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:DELL" symbol="us:DELL">Dell</a></strong>, said his company had generated $1m in computer-related sales through alerts posted to Twitter.</p><p>San Francisco-based Twitter is also becoming a platform for a range of media and social networking start-ups using its tools to develop communities and content rapidly, and at low cost.</p><p
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href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork">AdAge Global Idea Network</a>, <a
href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043#comments">Pepsi Apologized to Me for Its Suicide Ads</a></p><blockquote><p>Thank you so much for all of your comments.</p><p>@Todd Jordan &#8212; thanks. I have been thinking about being 20-something in 2008 and I think sarcastic is out and earnest is in. Agencies don&#8217;t get it. Their art directors are Seinfeld-era and don&#8217;t realize that teens and 20-something are serious. And I think BBDO and PepsiCo are assuming the story won&#8217;t leave this medium. I am told that the OJ verdict is going to kill this story on MSM.</p><p>CC Chapman knows Bonin and likes him. He&#8217;s for real. Here&#8217;s another thing about social media and social networks&#8230; blowback comes as a result of &#8220;who the hell are you.&#8221;</p><p>If you don&#8217;t spend enough time building brand and connection &#8212; &#8220;Ah, I know you!&#8221; &#8212; then when Bonin Bough comes to my INBOX, I assume sneakiness, right?</p><p>I am being kind to Bonin because I have my own firm and work in the social media PR space, http://chrisabraham.com &#8212; this means that I understand how risky and bold PepsiCo&#8217;s response was.</p><p>Matt and I wondered at the fact that BBDO could be so pre-Internet with their risk-assessment while their Social Media Response Team (is it Edelman?) is so good.</p><p>Mind you, the moment I got to Bonin&#8217;s &#8220;My best friend committed suicide and this is a topic very close to my heart&#8221; I balked and considered that sort of admission, from someone I don&#8217;t even know, to sound either tacky (at the very least), inappropriate, or just pandering&#8230;</p><p>@BL OCHMAN I have just been in DC too long around Lawyers, Consultants, Politicians, and too many people who are in the world of Military Intelligence. I assume everyone may be pulling the &#8220;iocane powder&#8221; switcheroo&#8230;</p><p>@michaeldaehn I don&#8217;t think shamelessness with this level of multinational brand ever works. As a PR professional, we highly &#8212; strongly &#8212; no, forcefully recommend always responding to this thing with Mea Maxima Culpa &#8212; never engage this sort of thing in any space, really. &#8220;If you struggle, you&#8217;ll only make it worse; and, if you say nothing, it will be even worse than that&#8221; is what I say.</p><p>@David Moore That&#8217;s a very British thing to say. When I was a student at UEA, I almost punched my buddy Paul&#8217;s teeth in when he started really laying into the piss-taking. See, Paul was from Cardiff and I, sadly, am an American. We American&#8217;s really can&#8217;t take a good Mickey.</p><p>@CHRISTINE LU I have been watching you online and on Twitter with great interest. You&#8217;re doing a much better job with this than I am, that&#8217;s for sure. My sincerest condolences for your loss.</p><p>@Linda Bogie I am only impressed by @Tweetmeme because it meant that the article was spreading and so people would most certainly respond. I am not impressed. The ads were wrong and appalling. Suicide is not amusing, not funny, and I hate that Suicide Bunny (am I the only one?)</p><p>@Michelle McCormack MMM I am glad I am not a nobody. – Chris Abraham | Berlin</p></blockquote><div
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class="flickr-yourcomment"> When I arrived in Berlin, my buddy Mark told me that I had to follow him halfway across town, past dozens of banks, including a number of Deutsche Banks, from where we were in Moabit down to Friedrichstraße, south of Straße des 17. Juni, to one particular Deutsche Bank called Die Deutsche Bank der Zukunft &#8212; &#8220;Deutsche Bank of the Future.&#8221;</p><p>Well, the service is superb!  There is a cafe with coffee and food.  When you interact with a bank manager, it is in the cafe with personal service.  Also, the cafe is open to the public, there is a boutique store in the front with high-end gifts, including gifts from Harrods, strangely enough. I have always been treated like I am rich and important when I am there, no matter how I am dressed or how unshaven.  Everyone speaks English, as well.</p><p>Not only that, but I am told that, in general, service sucks in Germany, especially in Berlin, especially the service offered in Banks.  Maybe a hold-over from Soviet-era bureaucracy &#8212; maybe all of the bureaucratic former Eastern Germans ended up manning all of the Berlin banks.  Well, that is not the case with the Deutsche Bank of the Future!</p><p><span
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/> (Private &#038; Business Clients)<br
/> Friedrichstraße 181<br
/> 10117 Berlin<br
/> Germany<br
/> +49 30 460611-0<br
/> +49 30 460611-99 Fax<br
/> Bank Code: 10070024<br
/> Swift Code: DEUTDEBBXXX / DEUTDEDBBER<br
/> Opening Hours<br
/> Monday &#8211; Tuesday: 10:00 &#8211; 20:00<br
/> Wednesday: 10:00 &#8211; 18:00<br
/> Thursday &#8211; Saturday: 10:00 &#8211; 20:00</p><div
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class="clear_right">Our soldiers need our help now. Which is why, this Veterans Day, I’m asking you to honor their service with a modest gift to <a
href="http://www.survivorcorps.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=324">Survivor Corps’ program for U.S. Armed Forces veterans, Operation Survivor</a>.</p><p><a
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class="clear_right">Right now, about 620,000 veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), traumatic brain injuries (TBI), major depression, or a combination of the three. Many returning veterans are facing family, employment, and other community reintegration issues. Using our ten years of experience helping survivors of violent conflict find a way back to peace, within their own bodies and minds, and in their communities, Survivor Corps founded Operation Survivor to provide the same kind of life-changing services to American veterans.</p><p
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id="more-5186"></span><strong>NEWS FACTS<br
/> </strong>Within the United States there are over one and a half million service members that have served in military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Over thirty thousand have been physically wounded, but many more have experienced less visible, psychological wounds. Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder have emerged as signature injuries of these conflicts, with recent reports suggesting an increase in rates of suicide, alcohol and drug abuse, homelessness, and domestic violence among returning service members and veterans.</p><p>These traumatic affects of conflict, left unaddressed, could have far-reaching negative consequences for the individuals affected, their families, and our country. Survivor Corps’ work in some of the most conflict affected countries in the world has shown community reintegration to be the key factor in those that overcome their traumatic experiences, and those that are consumed by them.</p><ul><li>1.6 million servicemembers have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001</li><li>300,000 have reported symptoms of PTSD and major depression. (RAND)</li><li>Over 5,391 service members haveben killed in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001 (hostile and non-hostile)4,447 killed in Iraq, 944 killed in Afghanistan (iCasualties, 06 AUG 08)</li><li>Over 30,000 injured</li><li>Over 1,000 lost limbs</li><li>Walter Reed Amputee Center serves 100 veterans daily</li></ul><p
class="clear_right">The main issues for returning soldier since WWI have been:</p><ul><li>Major depressive disorder</li><li>Alcohol abuse</li><li>Domestic violence</li><li>Suicide</li><li>Homelessness</li><li>Unemployment</li></ul><p>All of these issues repeat after each war, and are symptoms of the much greater problem facing Veterans: How to reintegrate into families and communities upon return. We’ve seen these issues in our overseas networks, US citizens have seen these symptoms after past conflicts, and we are seeing these same symptoms again today..</p><p><strong>PTSD:<br
/> </strong></p><ul><li>53% of soldiers with PSTD receive treatment. (RAND)</li></ul><p><strong>SUICIDE:<br
/> </strong></p><ul><li>Since 2002 suicide attempts have risen from 350 to approximately 2,100 in 2007. (VA)</li><li>The Army is committing $1.4 billion this year to add to the quality of life of a soldier including an informal peer support program through distribution of ACE of hearts playing cards.</li><li>ACE cards: Ask your buddy, Care for your buddy, Escort your buddy.</li></ul><p><strong>SUBSTANCE ABUSE:<br
/> </strong>According to the Department of Defense heavy drinking occurred in 18.5% of those individuals from the U.S. Armed Forces surveyed.</p><ul><li>41% of veterans who drank reported problems at work</li><li>24.7% of veterans who drank reported problems at home</li><li>31.2% of veterans who drank reported depression</li></ul><p><strong>DOMESTIC VIOLENCE:<br
/> </strong>A study conducted by the National Institute of Health showed returning veterans listed alcohol as the second most frequent cause of spouse violence.</p><p><strong>UNEMPLOYMENT:<br
/> </strong></p><ul><li>11.2% of returning young male veterans are unemployed (US Dept. of Labor)</li></ul><p><strong>HOMELESSNESS:<br
/> </strong></p><ul><li>40% of homeless men are veterans. (National Coalition for the Homeless)</li><li>200,000 veterans are homeless. (NCH)</li><li>Already 600 returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan have sought transitional housing services from the VA. (NCH)</li><li>Women are 2 to 4 times more likely to become homeless. (NCH)</li><li>After Vietnam, it generally took 9 to 12 years for veterans’ to become homeless…Returning veterans from Iraq are seeking housing services only months after returning. (NCH)</li></ul><p
class="clear_right"><strong>OPERATION SURVIVOR</strong></p><p
class="clear_right">Ongoing conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan are creating a generation of veterans in the United States from all branches of the armed services and all 50 states who are struggling to overcome physical and psychosocial injuries. Most combat veterans convalescing in military hospitals across the country will survive physically, but getting on with their lives after returning home to their families and communities is proving a significant challenge for hundreds of thousands. Among the 1.6 million who have served since 2001, suicide is on the rise, as is unemployment and incidents of substance abuse and domestic violence.</p><p>The successful reintegration of returning service members is an issue that will have a long-lasting impact on American society, and may become the single defining struggle facing this new generation of veterans. Survivor Corps and its partners are determined to avoid the mistakes made when veterans returned from Vietnam, which resulted in tens of thousands of post-war suicides and over 200,000 men and women living on the streets.</p><p>To head off this tragic outcome, Survivor Corps will build peer support programs at the community level that will bring service members and veterans together for mutual support and encourage both individual responsibility and collective action to help others in need.</p><p>Survivor Corps is offering an alternative “treatment” that can be made readily available in all communities, regardless of proximity to traditional military or govern¬ment centers of support. Our approach is nimble enough to address the needs of individual survivors, while still broad enough to build a coalition of survivors and service providers working to effect long-term positive change.</p><p>This new program will help the recovery and reintegration of hundreds of thousands of returning U.S. service members at a critical time for them and their country.</p><p
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-147">Palin = MORON</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://sogetthis.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 12:58.</div><div><p>Only  a complete moron would vote for a Republican after the past 8 years of  idiocy. McCain is a Bush croney and Palin is just an idiot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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id="comment-146"></a></p><div><div> <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-146">reply to KB in IA</a></div><div> Submitted by ab (not verified) on Fri, 10/10/2008 &#8211; 08:52.</div><div><p>KB,<br
/> Sorry, I don&#8217;t usually reply to these remarks, but I couldn&#8217;t resist&#8230;&#8230;..<br
/> What message of &#8220;hate&#8221; are you talking about?<br
/> If someone doesn&#8217;t agree with your worldview, that doesn&#8217;t<br
/> mean they hate. Where is your tolerance?<br
/> AB</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-145">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Walter Arndt (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 22:23.</div><div><p>Only a person with his head in the sand would vote for a democrat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-144">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by KB in IA (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 21:54.</div><div><p>Things  might get interesting soon, since the Alaska Supreme Court said today  that the investigation known as Troopergate could proceed, dashing the  hopes of the McCain/Palin campaign to stonewall it until after the  election (article at <a
href="http://www.adn.com" title="www.adn.com">www.adn.com</a>).  Amazing that someone CURRENTLY under investigation for misuse of public  office, could be stirring up crowds with a message of hate.  Mind-boggling that someone who had to attend 5 or 6 different colleges  before getting a degree in journalism, can try to make a bogeyman out  of someone who graduated with honors from Harvard Law. I hope Alaska  gets their Governor back soon&#8230;if they even want her back.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-143">Re: Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 18:06.</div><div><p>Are  you as crazy as she is? It IS the republican party that has messed up  this Country over the last 8 yrs. We may not get out of this mess we  are in. Take your head out of the sand. Obama IS the best selection  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-142">Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by  Leo (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 17:17.</div><div><p>Mrs.  Palin is much more qualified to be President than Obama who has done  absolutely nothing but organize thugs in ACORN! She could save this  Country from Socialism and all the corruption the Democrats are up to.  He is not capable of telling the truth and Hollywood and the Media are  doing their best to cover for him. He is not qualified to be a Senator  and should be on trial for treason.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-141">Pailin </a></div><div> Submitted by GE Mayer (not verified) on Thu, 10/09/2008 &#8211; 16:53.</div><div><p>Not  only is Palin not qualified to be Vice President much less President, I  am incensed, that John McCain would insult my intellegence by picking  such a &#8220;newby&#8221; above several well qualified, experienced women who have  served the country and the Republican party.<br
/> I expect my Comander in Chief to Carefully sellect an individual more  qualified than him/herself to take over. It shows John&#8217;s thinking.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-140">Palin?  Presidential material?  No, doggone it!</a></div><div> Submitted by Krissi (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:35.</div><div><p>While  I admire Sarah Palin&#8217;s spunk and determination, I think that she is  completely out of her league as not only a vice president but also a  president. If people would take a good look at her record, they&#8217;d see  that she doesn&#8217;t even have a good grasp of the issues.</p><p>In addition, she&#8217;s been caught in numerous lies and distortions. For  example, she did not sell a jet on eBay &#8212; she tried but failed; the  jet was sold later to a private buyer. She did not leave the town of  Wasilla financially sound; she left it in debt. She says she;ll be a  strong supporter of kids with needs. In truth, Palin actually slashed  funding for schools for special needs kids by 62%.</p><p>And her famous, &#8220;I told the Congress &#8220;thanks, but no thanks,&#8221; for  that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, we&#8217;d build it  ourselves&#8221; line? More spin. Congress&#8217; requirement that funds be spent  on that bridge (aka the &#8216;earmark&#8217;) were removed before Sarah Palin  became governor. She was, therefore, in no position to tell Congress  anything about the bridge, one way or the other. During her campaign,  she said she supported funding for the bridge.</p><p>There are more examples, of the fibs and many examples of her poor  insight into our nation&#8217;s problems. I could list them all, but I  encourage you to do your own homework (forwarded emails DO NO COUNT)!</p><p>If MCCain and Palin win this election, I&#8217;ll probably be hoping for a lengthy, overseas assignment &#8212; maybe four years or more!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-139">Palin is Failin</a></div><div> Submitted by GA for Brains in the White House (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 21:02.</div><div><p>W &#8211; below C student<br
/> McCain &#8211; at the bottom of his class<br
/> Are we really electing the best? Shouldn&#8217;t we elect someone better than  we are? And someone not ready for the assisted living home? Someone who  can remember the name of his opponent instead of calling him &#8220;that  one&#8221;. McCain left right away after the debate &#8211; seniors do go to bed  early, probably past his bedtime. As for integrity, check out McCain&#8217;s  involvement in the S&#038;L bailout, he was right there along side W&#8217;s  brother Neil. All working to steal investors&#8217; money. Just like King  Henry is doing now, rewarding his Wall St. buddies.</p><p><strong>And we wonder why this happens to us???</strong></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-138">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Ed Sherrill (not verified) on Wed, 10/08/2008 &#8211; 10:49.</div><div><p>Not  only is Sarah Palin competent to become President, she is idealogically  and tempermentally better suited to be President than John McCain.  Republicans are going to be very sorry thet chose McCain over Mitt  Romney. I only pray the Democrates don&#8217;t screw up the country so bad  over the next four years that it can&#8217;t be fixed.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-136">Is she for real?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 22:13.</div><div><p>If  Joe Biden winked at the camera 5-6 times during the debate, wouldn&#8217;t we  be calling him a pervert? Come on people, get serious. Sarah Palin is a  joke &#8212; an embarrassment to Americans who take our politics &#8212; and the  plight of our country &#8212; seriously.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-134">Is Sarah Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.selfhelpdaily.com" rel="nofollow">Joi</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:34.</div><div><p>To  be sure, Sarah Palin doesn&#8217;t deserve the crucifixion the media and  entertainment world are giving her (and her family). McCain might  deserve some of it, after all &#8211; he picked her. Why? She&#8217;s female. I  admire the man completely &#8211; he is an American hero and I can&#8217;t even  begin to imagine the hell this brave man endured.</p><p>However, when it came to choose running mates, I belive Obama chose  one that was best for the country and McCain chose one (he thought) was  best for the campaign.</p><p>I THINK that he lost the race with his choice.  I KNOW he lost my vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-133">Surprising VP choice</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">olivier blanchard</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 13:30.</div><div><p>Hindsight  is always 20/20. Perhaps Gov. Palin&#8217;s weaknesses weren&#8217;t 100% obvious  to Sen. McCain when he picked her. (So much for due diligence, I  guess.) Did he want a dynamic, charismatic, family-friendly VP  running-mate? Of course. And she fit the bill&#8230; on the surface, at  least. But honestly, weren&#8217;t there better choices (male or female) for  the job? Competent, charismatic, appealing, worldly Republican  governors or senators? People he actually knows and trusts? 30 years in  politics, and he can&#8217;t think of a single person he has worked with who  would be a better choice for a running mate? He goes with a complete  stranger? I find that bizarre. Irresponsible, even. I just don&#8217;t get  it. There are plenty of smart, competent, experienced women in the  Republican Party who would have made a great running mate.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-132">Don&#8217;t confuse appeal with competence</a></div><div> Submitted by DBStevens (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 12:21.</div><div><p>Too  many people in this country confuse personal appeal with competence,  and make decisions based on who&#8217;s the most charming or even who&#8217;s  sexiest. Or they make decisions based on generalities such as &#8220;we need  a woman in the White House.&#8221; A COMPETENT woman in the White House would  be a great asset to this country. There is no doubt of that.</p><p>But we can&#8217;t decide the leaders of our country based on a visceral  reaction to her charm and folksy demeanor (there is a lot of doubt as  to the sincerity of that demeanor anyway&#8230;she shows signs of being  rather ruthless). During these times of uncertainty and fear, it&#8217;s  natural to want some comfort, to feel that the person leading our  country is down-to-earth and &#8220;real.&#8217; We felt good about Bush and people  like Rudy Guiliani for a short time right after 9/11. They appealed to  our emotions and need for reassurance. But that demeanor means nothing.  It&#8217;s the actions that matter, and in the time following 9/11, both Bush  and Guiliani&#8217;s true nature was revealed&#8230; incompetence and  self-serving.</p><p>Sarah Palin acts cute and has a pretty face. That&#8217;s perfect for  president of the PTA. But has not gained enough experience to be  president of a country. The job of Vice-President or President is NOT  an &#8220;on-the-job-training&#8221; type of job. Being Mayor of a tiny town in a  remote state, then Governer of that remote, sparsely populated state  (670,000, way smaller than a city like El Paso, TX) is not enough  experience to lead a country whose every move has global implications.  Palin treated the job of Governer like a telecommuting job, she worked  form her hown home for 86% of the year.</p><p>No matter how intelligent she may seem to be, no matter how  ambitious or driven she may seem, and ESPECIALLY no matter how pretty  or charming she is, she is not ready for the responsibilities of a job  like President. Without experience, without having the time to really  begin to understand the nature of national and global dealings on every  level, no matter how much coaching or guidance she would receive, Palin  would either crumble under pressure or make very bad decisions with  repercussions that could shake this country and its international  stature to the core. Or she wouldn&#8217;t act quickly enough at  all&#8230;stalling and deflecting decisions (as she does with many  questions, or with such events as the investigation dubbeed  &#8220;Troopergate&#8221;).</p><p>I also worry about the demands of her family. During times of her  family&#8217;s need, do we want someone faced with the dilemma of either  neglecting her family&#8217;s needs because of her duties as Vice-President,  or neglecting the VP duties because of her family&#8217;s needs? Neither of  those are good choices&#8230;.Sarah Palin has too many personal  responsibilities.</p><p>Palin also shows all the signs of behavior very similar to  Bush&#8217;s&#8230;including a tendency toward cronyism, abuse of power, and  self-serving decisions that flout the law.</p><p>She even mispronounces the word &#8220;nuclear&#8221; just like Bush. Certainly  that&#8217;s a small point, and that pronunciation is commonly recognized as  a sub-standard metathesis of the word, but it&#8217;s very annoying to listen  to.</p><p>So wake up American. Move your responses from your gut to your  brains, and make sure you understand the repercussions of your vote.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-131">I&#8217;m moving&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.andyosier.com" rel="nofollow">Andy Osier</a> (not verified) on Tue, 10/07/2008 &#8211; 10:15.</div><div><p>John  McCain himself isn&#8217;t capable of running the country; I shudder to think  of the train wreck a Palin administration would be. If they win, I&#8217;m  seriously considering a moving. How&#8217;s the January weather in Berlin,  Chris?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-130">Big State&#8230;&#8230;little experience!</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ahpoll.com/comment/reply/4/126" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 18:11.</div><div><p>Granted, we&#8217;ve got plenty to worry about at home!<br
/> But we&#8217;re talking about a Governor of a state bordered by 2 foreign  countries, Palin is the proud NEW owner of a passport! (barely 1 year)<br
/> The world is smaller than ever and so is our standing in it. We don&#8217;t  need &#8220;a little Wasilla in Washington&#8221;. We already have a narrow minded  view of the world with our current administration.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-129">Palin for presidnet?</a></div><div> Submitted by Joyce (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>She  would call on the brightest brains in the Republican party, put them in  positions of power and support, and do her best to do the best she  could for her country. She&#8217;s an acheiver and would never accept failure  for herself. She has Condeleesa, Romneys, Huckabees and several others  who want to serve and members to help and advise her. Her history shows  that she uses support and advise to guide her towards her goals and  accomplishments. She would take the credit for it too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-128">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Allison (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:10.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-127">Re: If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 15:08.</div><div><p>Palin  is the only person that does not have someone dictating what she says  about policy and does not try to appear to have all of the answers. She  certainly knows how to find the answers. She has integrity, and knows  truth when she sees it and definitely has mankind&#8217;s best interests as  her priority. These are some of the things that make her the best  candidate for the job. I am sick and tired of politicians with agendas!  She is a real person that is capable of any good, or decent task put  before her. She will also employ the same type of people to work beside  and under her. The point that she is not capable of selling us down  stream for a special interest group, or her own pocket, or fame makes  her my choice in a leader &#8211; regardless of the presence of McCain.  Allison</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-126">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:47.</div><div><p>She didn&#8217;t ride in on her &#8220;own merits&#8221; She rode in on her SEX. PERIOD.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-125">If McCain dies is America Screwed?</a></div><div> Submitted by RisingFromDecadence (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 12:17.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  the most frightening and compelling reason to not elect McCain to date.  It&#8217; clear that the choice was to win vs. what&#8217;s right for the country.  And it saddens me that with so many strong female candidates out there  McCain has landed on this choice. It speaks volumes of his lack of  sound judgement and doesn&#8217;t do justice to the feminist movement.</p><p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with &#8220;Double Standard&#8217;s&#8221; comments about  education, and intelligence vs. the &#8220;experience&#8221; of a low-population  governor. Has it somehow become a negative trait for our president to  be articulate well educated and even published?</p><p>I think its safe to now say, like every great civilization, America  has grown from it&#8217;s indestructible, can-do &#8220;adolescence,&#8221; and has  entered it&#8217;s &#8220;decadent&#8221; period of greed, fear, fat and a lack of clear  vision. America needs a president who will bring intelligence, a new  vision, and optimism so that we don&#8217;t lose the real values we&#8217;ve grown  up to believe are American such as truth, innovation, compassion,  charity and vision.</p><p>Our values as a nation should not be confused with same sex  marriages or religious agendas. I seem to remember from my grade school  social studies classes that America was born as a nation with the  purpose and promise of many freedoms. Personal choice values are not to  be mixed with National values. Growing up, this difference has been why  I&#8217;ve been so proud to be an American. In the last 8 years much has  changed. I believe that only with the leadership of Obama will we be  able to regain our credibility and our course as a nation. Most  importantly, America could be &#8220;Proud Again.&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-124">Answer the question</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://ascannerbrightly.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jaz-Michael King</a> (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 10:40.</div><div><p>As  an unbiased, unable-to-vote immigrant, can I point out that as usual,  from either of your minimalist two sides, when the question is simply  If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Palin be  competent to be President?&#8221;, the arguments spin off to why the opponent  isn&#8217;t. Maybe that will be the next question, but like I wanted to yell  at Palin while watching the debate&#8230; answer the question posed to you.</p><p>Everyone has their weak points, and in some respects, Obama, who has  considerably more than two years in the US Senate as his experience (he  was a state senator, you know) has plenty. However, I think there&#8217;s a  good reason hockey moms and joe sixpacks don&#8217;t run. No-one wants  regular folk in charge. You all want a ruling elite no matter how much  you profess to the contrary.</p><p>There are plenty of strong, competent women on both sides of the aisle in the USA. Gov. Palin is not one of them.</p><p>She is not qualified because she is not qualified. Being as  unqualified as anyone you wish to compare her to does not make her  qualified. Her inabilty to answer a straight question makes her  unqualified. I personally believe the fact she is the kind of person  who can compete in a beauty contest makes her unqualified. And as of  today, her assertion that Obama&#8217;s political career started off in the  living room of a terrorist (all of a sudden, he&#8217;s been a politician a  lot longer than two years according to the Republicans) has pulled her  from the absurd to the surreal.</p><p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Obama seems to pander to some vaporous &#8220;change&#8221; mentality, but that wasn&#8217;t the question.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-123">Palin Unqualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous jones (not verified) on Mon, 10/06/2008 &#8211; 09:16.</div><div><p>The  difference between Obama and Palin is that Obama thinks. He&#8217;s smart  enough to go to Harvard, graduate high enough in his class to be  president of the Harvard Law Review there. He&#8217;s a thinker who doesn&#8217;t  shoot from the hip. He knows the Constitution inside and out and knows  if something is just a whim to increase his own power compared to a  great idea which would help millions of people (think fairer taxes,  health insurance coverage). Palin bankrupted Wasilla which is now 23.5  MILLION dollars in debt. She has no idea of what real issues are out  there&#8212;she doesn&#8217;t have any idea of what to do in a financial  situation, a diplomatic situation or anything beyond her own home. She  shows no compassion for others who are not in her situation (religious,  financial, educational, political) and has no international experience.  We do not need another DOPE in the White House. McCain has shown very  poor judgment in choosing an under-educated (a BA is like a high school  degree these days) fool rather than a smart, intellectually  sophisticated worthy VP candidate. This is a sellout of the Democratic  process. Such a shame. But then again, McCain graduated at the bottom  of his class (894 out of 899), so what does he want with a smart second?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-122">Just because she could, does not mean she should.</a></div><div> Submitted by Bjshazam (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:34.</div><div><p>Does  it not trouble anyone who has been posting here that we have reached  this point at all? I&#8217;ve been writing draft after draft of posts here,  trying to find the right balance that won&#8217;t come across as too  ideological, or that won&#8217;t be automatically dismissed by the true  sycophants because it contains some Left or Right code word that  justifies their turning off of the brain. Can&#8217;t do it. She&#8217;s too  dangerous, and it angers me so much that we as a country have been put  in the position of having to opine about the staggering impropriety of  her selection as McCain&#8217;s running mate.</p><p>Consider:</p><p>My brother is a great guy. Smart as a whip, with what I think is  decent judgment (except for his love of the Yankees). I trust him  implicitly. So, should I be in a position to name him to, say, the  Supreme Court, I would expect no questions from anyone about his  qualifications. According to the Constitution, he is legally qualified  to be a Justice, even the Chief Justice. I already told you he is smart  and has good judgment. What else do you need to know? How dare you  question my choice or his desire to serve?</p><p>The President of the United States has a mind bogglingly huge amount  of discretion in executing the job. The president can, without  obstruction by court or Congress, lay waste to our financial system,  impede entirely the execution of justice, or unleash Armageddon. The  office of the president can disband virtually unilaterally the entirety  of the intelligence gathering power of the U.S., or focus it all on the  least secure among us &#8212; with no recourse by anyone.</p><p>Most of the time, this isn&#8217;t an issue. Regardless of your political  persuasion, we have been blessed mostly with chief executives that took  the burdens of job dead seriously. A president of the entire country,  not just those who cast the votes.</p><p>Now the bar has been set so low that we cannot figure out the right  words to describe how wrong it is for a candidate to relish the fact  that she really doesn&#8217;t understand the job the Constitution has laid  out. That this is somehow an asset to a campaign makes me ashamed for  my country.</p><p>That John McCain affirmatively foisted this train wreck upon his own  party, and possibly upon the country, is a sin for which he should  never be forgiven.</p><p>That she is considered by some to be the next face of the GOP, and a  real contender for the nomination next time around, should make my GOP  colleagues shudder and the nation weep.</p><p>I don&#8217;t want a hockey mom or joe six-pack running the country. Hell,  I don&#8217;t want anyone like me running the country. I want a president.  And she is not it.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-121">make that Palin UNQUALIFIED PERIOD</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:25.</div><div><p>Darn, brain outrunning my fingers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-120">Palin qualified period</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:22.</div><div><p>And  the mental midgets who are using that as a ruse to comment on Obama  miss the entire point. Biden IS qualified to fill in shoudl something  happen to Obama (go to smoking gun to see why that IS an issue).</p><p>Palin is a bimbo and if you do not think so, Palin supporters, then  take this simple acid test: were it Obama who made those brain dead  comments instead of Palin, what would you be saying about him? Gotcha!</p><p>jim</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-119">Palin Not Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 22:01.</div><div><p>Anyone  that believes that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President is kidding  themselves. It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. The  fact that she is SO unqualified is what made her pick an insult to  every hard-working, intelligent woman out there. She was picked for her  good looks and her folksy charm. There were MANY more qualified women  in the ranks of the Republican party that could have been chosen.<br
/> Palin attended five different colleges before she was finally able to  stick out a degree program. She majored in journalism and  communications and couldn&#8217;t name ONE newspaper or magazine that she  reads on a regular basis. She minored in political science and doesn&#8217;t  know what the Vice President&#8217;s role and duties are in our government.  She has abused her power in every political post she has been elected  to, has lied about her record both as mayor and governor and her short  political career has been marked by scandal. She says that she fought  the energy interests in Alaska, but her campaigns have all been heavily  funded by energy companies.<br
/> In short, she&#8217;s not smart, she&#8217;s lacks integrity, she has gotten most  of what she has attained on her looks and charm and these things don&#8217;t  add up to someone who is qualified for Vice President, nevermind the  Presidency. If you want her to be your leader, move to Alaska. This  country and the world cannot afford another incompetent leader at the  helm. One more bumbling idiot at the helm will spell doom for the  future of all of the citizens of this country.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-118">qualifications.</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Crazy Politico</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 20:10.</div><div><p>If Gov. Palin isn&#8217;t qualified to &#8220;POSSIBLY&#8221; become president, then what of Barack Obama?</p><p>What exactly is his qualification for the job? A couple of  non-descript years in the Senate with no major legislation to show for  that time? A history of voting &#8220;Here&#8221; on controversial issues so as to  keep a rather neutral record when running for the next higher office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-117">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 14:49.</div><div><p>Does  she have enough political experience for the position of president? I  would say not&#8230;.. but then again, there&#8217;s nothing like a long run of a  president that can&#8217;t even string a sentence together in English to  remind you that you don&#8217;t really need much skill for the job. It&#8217;s  whose behind the president that counts no?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-116">Is Palin Qualified to be President?</a></div><div> Submitted by Thoughtful_Independent (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 11:49.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  a registered independent. I was waiting for the VP picks to be made  before making my mind up. VP&#8217;s Gore and Cheney have both illustrated  the growing importance of the VP position in the Executive Branch. The  magnitude of the nations and worlds problems highlight the fact that  the top two elected officials in the US need to have a wide range of  capabilities., strong intellect, and global perspective. At minimum,  the President needs a knowledgeable confidant and advisor he/she can  trust.</p><p>For all of her folksy charm, Governor Palin displays very little of  these qualities or qualifications. If you take the time to investigate  the educational and professional accomplishments of our sitting VP&#8217;s  over the past 50 years, even the most biased observer would conclude  that Governor Palin would be the least educated and least experienced.  If you don&#8217;t have the time to look at all of them, just compare her  against Dan Quayle who was arguably the weakest of the sitting VP&#8217;s.  Quayle&#8217;s accomplishments at the time he was selected as Bush&#8217;s running  mate dwarf Palin&#8217;s.</p><p>Upon inspection, the rabid and exaggerated claims about her energy  expertise and executive experience vaporize (the claims of foreign  policy experience are not even a valid topic). Living in an oil rich  state, shuffling petrodollars from the oil companies to the citizens in  the form of dividends, &#8220;negotiating&#8221; potential terms of a yet unplanned  and unfunded natural gas pipeline, and a college degree in journalism  do not qualify one as an energy expert.</p><p>Furthermore, the role of Governor of Alaska is diminished in  complexity compared to the Governors of the lower 48 due to factors  such as: 1) very small population (the whole state has a population  smaller than typical medium sized US cities), 2) the largest Alaskan  cities are smaller than many small ciities or large towns in the lower  48 (Anchorage = ~280K, Fairbanks = ~35K, Juneau = ~35K), 3) low  industrial output (Alaska is ranked near the bottom compared to the  other 50 states), and 4) a budget which is majority funded by revenues  from oil and gas companies. The hardest problem of the Alaskan governor  appears to be deciding how much money to send from the Permanent Fund  to the citizens versus how much to stash away for a future time when  oil revenues begin declining.</p><p>I find the argument that Palin has more &#8220;executive experience&#8221; than  McCain, Obama or Biden to be disingenuous. If executive experience is  really so important, Mitt Romney should be the Republican candidate for  President or, at minimum, the VP candidate. While I was not a huge fan  of Mr. Romney, his skillset is so superior to Palin&#8217;s that comparisons  are impossible. The same can be said with respect to experience in  matters of the economy. Ironically, Mr. Romney&#8217;s biggest shortcoming  appeared to be that he was a Washington outsider. Now being from our  most remote state is a strength for Palin?</p><p>My perspective is that the most successful Presidents of the last 50  years (for arguments sake Eisenhower, Reagan and Clinton) were able to  balance their core idealogical positions with advocacy for programs and  policies that improved the situation for the majority of US citizens  and improved our stature in the global community. Each of these  Presidents had well educated and highly skilled running mates. As an  Independent who holds a blend of conservative and liberal positions,  this mix is what I am weighing the most. My assessment is that  Obama/Biden have a better overall leadership/intelligence/world view  profile than McCain/Palin. McCain could have selected a male or female  running mate who would have tilted my assessment in his favor.  Unfortunately, for reasons only he and his advisors can comprehend, he  went with a female ideologue with weak academic, intellectual and  professional skills.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-115">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 06:15.</div><div><p>@  CanIGet2NewZealand</p><p>What does it take to satisfy people like you?<br
/> or&#8230; is this a display of jealousy ? Ms Palin does make a rather  impressive appearance on a simple &#8216;ride in from the Wilds of Alaska&#8217;.<br
/> Instead of complimenting a person on a job well done you prefer to show the &#8220;cat fight&#8221; attitude.<br
/> What has Obama more than Palin?</p><p>If Obama had been a white boy from Illinois, would he have received  the nomination of the Dem Party? If your answer is NO _ then you must  vote for Palin for she rode in on her own merits not on her skin color!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-114">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb" rel="nofollow">REB 84</a> (not verified) on Sun, 10/05/2008 &#8211; 00:35.</div><div><p>Would John McCain be a competent president?  This is a question you should be asking.<br
/> <a
href="http://questionitnow.com/educationb/2008/09/which-is-real-mccain.html"> QuestionItNow &#8211; Will America lead?</a></p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-113">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by CanIGet2NewZealand (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Palin has been governor of a state with the population of Poughkeepsie, New York .</p><p>The State of Alaska, despite its conservative appearance has been  giving out money to its citizens from its oil dividens (Alaska  Permanent Fund) (<a
href="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style" title="http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style">http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2003/sharing_alaska_style</a>)  since the 1970&#8242;s. The money Palin boasts about giving her citizens is  money of this sort, the citizens of Alaska have been receiving these  payments for almost 40 years. How can she use these payments as part of  a discussion of her fiscal capabilities as Governor?</p><p>Governor Palin impresses me as being a cross between a Barbie Doll  and that really annoying head cheerleader that the intelligent girls  all could not stand in highschool.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-112">Palin was a mistake for McCain in the 1st Place</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/people/FranklinB?view=documents&#038;viewingAsOthers=true" rel="nofollow">FranklinB</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>I  have been publishing my thoughts on this matter for awhile now  regarding the selection of Sarah Palin for VP. I gave my views on her  initial selection here:</p><p>Did John McCain have good judgement?<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-72657</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is not my Vice President<br
/> <a
href="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179" title="http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179">http://digitalseller.tblog.com/post/1970016179</a></p><p>Sarah Palin is just another pretty face<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-86323</a></p><p>McCain will have to pick a new VP<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94699</a></p><p>VP Debate was great, for Biden and Obama<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625" title="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-102625</a></p><p>Overall I agree that McCain is kind of a maverick, but also he is a  big gambler. Instead of picking one of the most qualified in the arena,  he went outside to a relatively unknown woman who he knew could  energize the base. That has happened, but with such obvious liabilities  that only a pure conservative will think she is qualified, because pure  conservatives don&#8217;t care who is in that position as long as that person  is republican, conservative and can walk &#038; talk. Hannity has said  publicly that he believes she would be qualified to fill the top job,  and so did Limbaugh as well. I got yelled at the other day by one of my  very oldest and best friends who couldn&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t think she  was for real. That was before the Couric interview. Now after the  debate I know I have made the right choice with Obama and Biden. The  financial collapse is bad enough, but if there was a President Palin  someday, it could be an even worse disaster for our country.</p><p>Obama and Biden are consistant in their positions on the Iraq war  and other matters regarding the need to help the middle class. I  believe McCain has no interest in the working class folks in this  country, and even if Palin does have that interest, she is not  knowledgeable enough to make any difference. JMHO</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-111">You&#8217;re Kidding, right?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://onthebloc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Shelly Roberts</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 14:04.</div><div><p>Sarah  Pallin is an embarrassment to the Republican Party, who may well be  qualified to run for PTA vice president, but hardly for the  heart-beat-away position of Vice President of the United States.</p><p>In the debate with Sen. Bieden Palin spoke repeatedly an d stiltedly  from obviousy drilled-in talking points rather than from any  appropriate knowledge. With a wooden, albeit cheerful presentation  worthy of earning her the title of Best Stepford Candidate.</p><p>Palin&#8217;s presentation was a constant one-note, praise-singing  golly/gee campaign advertiisement for John McCain, and did litttle if  anything to present any viable credentials as a candidate for the high  office into which she has been so thoughtlessly thrust.</p><p>I&#8217;d pity her for the position for which she has been recruited if  the holder of that position didn&#8217;t stand such a strong chance of  becoming the leader of the free world with a 79 year old unhealthy  running mate &#8211;shudder&#8211; a horrifying thought.</p><p>It shouldn&#8217;t be enough merely that she didn&#8217;t panic, screw up or cry  to qualify her as even a contender in the so-called debate. I have some  issues with Mr. Bidden as well, but at least he came across as someone  who has done more than simply look west and north in the direction of  the former Soviet Union, and self-pronounce a competency in foreign  affairs. That&#8217;s way too much like watching Animal Planet and  proclaiming veterinary competence with elephants.</p><p>Did Sarah win the debate?  She wasn&#8217;t ever even qualified to enter the race.</p><p>Is she qualified to be President regardless of the state of John McCain&#8217;s health?  You&#8217;re kidding, right?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-110">Dummy be gone! THINK!</a></div><div> Submitted by Skillet Marimba (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 11:27.</div><div><p>The G.O.P. targets DUMMYS but DUMMYS are finally starting to wake up. Dummy be gone.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-108">If McCain Died, Is Sarah Palin Qualified To Lead This Nation?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://legalconsulting.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obama-biden-a-winning-ticketbut-obama-clinton-a-landslide-victory/" rel="nofollow">Patrick Pearce</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:33.</div><div><p>Let  me first establish that I am not hopping on any band waggon here to  vilify or demonize Sarah Palin because she is a woman. My argument is  limited to choice. Based on both Vice Presidential Candidates, Sarah  Palin and Joe Biden of the Republican and Democratic Party  respectively, should one of these men (Whether Obama or McCain) died or  become incapacitated as President of the United States, and  constitutionally the Vice President is next in line to assume the  presidency, I unequivocally would trust the experience of Joe Biden to  lead this great Nation over Sarah Palin. I am sure I share the same  views as most sensible Americans. I used to hear that John McCain was a  stubborn man, I am now convinced. There are so many more experience and  viable Republicans out there to be VP, why did he chose Sarah Palin? If  only some of these potentially great men would listen to somebody  instead of arrogating to themselves because of ego, they would be such  great leaders. Obama-Biden victory in November, hands down! See my  recent post at: <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-107">Palin Better than Most</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://thescoundrel.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">thescoundrel</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 09:21.</div><div><p>I  tend to disbelieve anything that comes out of any politicians mouth.  Politicians are liars&#038; cheats. While they are kissing your baby  they are picking your pocket at the same time. The President&#8217;s Job is  limited. The Congress is where most of the power in this country lies.  They make legislation, they pass legislation and even if the President  vetoes that legislation, they have the power to override it. A relative  rookie politician, Palin, actually has more executive experience than  McCain, Biden or Obama. Now that is scary since she is merely a VP  nominee. I would vote for her over Obama or Biden. She has a limited  track track record of what Obama/Biden pretends to have without any  track record to prove their claims: Palin has shown the grit to fight  her own party as governor of Alaska. Obama has shown me nothing for the  time he was in my state of Illinois government or once he was elected  Senator. He was no more than a puppet to Emile Jones that is the strong  arm thug of DEmocrat Gov. Governor Blagodabitch, the soon to be cell  mate of ex Republican Gov. George Ryan. So yeah I would trust Palin  much further than I would Obama leading this nation. Obama only  understands Chicago and Springfield style corruption which he was a  part of.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-106">If John McCain died&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Pat Baker (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 08:21.</div><div><p>To Anonymous:<br
/> I have been hollering &#8220;Double Standard&#8221; all summer&#8221;. You hit the nail  on the spot. When Obama was trained by the late great Saul Alinsky  &#038; his staff to learn how to be a better community activist, take  surveys, housing problems, school problems in the poor Chicago  districts, Palin sneered at the his outcomings, stating all those  programs arenow defunct. Her ignorance is bliss. Reason: Viet Nam war,  &#038; the 60&#8242;s riots cost us plenty At least Obama was vetted. Some  pundits t laughed him. I too, was trained by Alinsky, this great Jewish  community consultant for the poor back in the late 60&#8242;s. If Palin was  crossed examined by a Judge/Atty she would simply say I will only  answer the questions I wish to reply to. My people call it &#8220;double  standard&#8221;. Thanks, Anonymous for reminding me that I don&#8217;t need on the  job training vp by McCain/Palin ticket.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-104">my vote</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.squidoo.com/leanandripped" rel="nofollow">joe</a> (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:35.</div><div><p>Ihave  no faith or trust in any politition, democrat or republican, they all  end up shafting the middle class in the end,She will be no better or  worse than the rest of the lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-103">This Election is More Irritating than Usual</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 07:26.</div><div><p>Why  do people feel someone who has been a Senator for 2 years is more  qualified to be President than in the unlikely event McCain has to be  replaced by Govenor Palin??? The other thing that keeps being over  looked is Nancy Pelosi has been two heartbeats away from President??  She is qualified?? Unfortunately, people are being too influenced by  the media and not doing there own research. Quit using the medias  opinions and form your own. Do some real research. Somethinf fun to do  is go to <a
href="http://abcnews.go.com/politics" title="http://abcnews.go.com/politics">http://abcnews.go.com/politics</a> scroll down to the Match-o-Matic II  game.  It is ver interesting.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-102">Does Being Governor Make Governor Palin Qalified?</a></div><div> Submitted by artbcpa (not verified) on Sat, 10/04/2008 &#8211; 01:54.</div><div><p>In  &#8220;Third Out of Four&#8221; the commentator points out that Clinton and Reagan  were both Governors before becoming President. We shouldn&#8217;t forget that  Jimmy Carter was also a Governor before becoming the most incompetent  president in the history of the United Staetes. He also may have been  among the academically brightest of all recent Presidents. What does  all that tell us?. &#8230;NOTHING.</p><p>Whether Sarah Palin was a Governor or Barack Obama was at the top of  his academic class does not ensure that either will or will not do a  good job in their respective positions.</p><p>We need to make our decision based on factors more likely to lead to  a successful Presidency. After eight years of the most secretive,  nontransparent Presidency in history, we need someone who will instill  trust in the institution of the Presidency and restore confidence in  the people of the country.</p><p>We had several such Presidents in the prior century &#8211; Franklin  Roosevelt, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan. Each had a vision for the  country which was clearly articulated and embraced by the people. In a  choice between the idealistic Barack Obama and the wily curmudgeon,  John McCain, Barack Obama is clearly the choice of what this country  needs at this time in history.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-101">Palin is not our woman.</a></div><div> Submitted by Pam (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:59.</div><div><p>I  know that I do not want Palin. I know that I don’t want her anywhere  near our foreign policy. I know that I don’t like what she said in the  debate about ‘expanding’ the role of vice president. I know that I  don’t like her far right, religious views that can impact the world in  a bunch of ways that I don’t like.</p><p>There are other things I don’t like about her, though, I can’t say I  am completely sure about my reasoning. I don’t like her winks and her  nods. I don’t like how she talks to us like children.</p><p>I question my own opinion about these things, as I am not sure if I  know what I want or expect in a female politician. It’s a very  important thing. This first woman. This example of all of us. This  person in whom I place so much of my future and that of my daughters.  Hmmm, too much pressure?!?</p><p>Do I want her to be more of a man than any of the men at the table?  Competing in the same way as men, but climbing the ladder in stilettos?  Or do I want her to be the nurturing female that gets things done  without men being any the wiser? With charm and feminine wiles that  could will men to do what they might not have done, otherwise?</p><p>I thought, when considering Hillary, that I didn’t want a woman  President who had a husband that is a former President. My sister then  pointed out that we might not consider too many women that did not have  such a sense of the White House.</p><p>It’s difficult. These women, up for consideration, don’t have  military backgrounds. Yet, she would be responsible for ‘pushing the  button’ and/or ending a war.</p><p>I guess, even if I did not have a problem with her foreign presence,  her religious intent or her understanding of the role she was about to  take on, I would still have an issue to deal with.</p><p>So, I don’t like Sarah, but, who do I like?  And, the bigger question for me, why?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-100">Re: Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by FD (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 23:24.</div><div><p>To King of Chatalot: I&#8217;m an independant, but I voted once and the poll will not allow me to vote again.<br
/> The only way someone could vote twice is through a proxy, but I tested that idea fater reading your comment.<br
/> It didn&#8217;t work.<br
/> I tried several different proxies, I reset my ip, and nope, it would not allow me to vote again.</p><p>Take off the tin foil hat.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-99">Poll</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.chatalot.net" rel="nofollow">King of Chatalot</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 22:11.</div><div><p>I  find it amazing that Democrats would stoop so low as to make multiple  votes in this silly poll just to bend the outcome towards their way of  thinking&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..so to make it appear as if they are the  winners&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p><p>&#8230;but then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;considering that they will ultimately lose in November I&#8217;m not totally surprised&#8230;&#8230;..</p><p>&#8230;..merely amazed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-98">Palin&#8217;s hand on the &#8220;Nukular&#8221; button? </a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mediaconcepts.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Media Concepts</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 21:39.</div><div><p>I  can&#8217;t decide whether that&#8217;s hilarious, or horrifyingly frightening. I  think it&#8217;s both. Based on McCain&#8217;s age alone, historian Doris Kearns  Goodwin says that there&#8217;s almost a one in three chance that McCain  would die in office were he to be elected. Factor in his FOUR bouts of  Melanoma, which is often fatal regardless of the victim&#8217;s age, and  those odds increase markedly.</p><p>Something to think about.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-97">It&#8217;s about leadership</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://politicalvindication.com" rel="nofollow">Shane from PV</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:30.</div><div><p>The  presidency is about leadership, and if we can survive eight years being  led by an Arkansas governor who would rather molest the hired help than  pay attention to what Osama Bin Laden is doing, then America will do  just fine with a President Sarah Palin. She certainly has more  leadership experience than her opponents. Does that mean I would have  made her my choice for VP? I would have loved to see Mitt Romney as VP,  but she&#8217;s smart, focused, and knows how to lead. The important  question, if she should ever end up in the Oval Office, would be who  she surrounds herself with. That&#8217;s another reason why Obama would be  very scary as president. He has terrible judgment, and considering the  people he has surrounded himself with throughout his life, and the fact  that as president he will have to decide what advice to act on when it  comes to important issues &#8211; I don&#8217;t trust him to be able to distinguish  from among a bevy of poor advisers the advice least damaging.</p><p>Obama supporters, like so many on this comment board, have no idea  who Obama really is &#8211; frankly, no one does. Obama has locked up his  records, is protected by a compliant press, and says only what he  thinks Americans want to hear. He&#8217;s a charlatan, but his supporters  don&#8217;t care. <em>That&#8217;s why this question is so ironic.</em> They hate  Bush/Republicans/conservatives more than they fear the inexperience of  their presidential candidate and manchild Barack Obama. The derangement  of the left has led them to support and oppose issues not because they  want to protect their country or improve the lives of Americans, but  because they hate their adversaries and will do or say anything to beat  them (the &#8220;this war is lost&#8221; quote by Harry Reid comes to mind &#8211; how  incredibly telling). I think this frothing derangement will cause them  to self-destruct again as they did in 2000 and 2004, where Americans  got a good look at the mindless bitterness and spite that inspires the  left. McCain will win in a squeaker.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-96">Palin is more qualified than most&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Greg (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:24.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a big political kind of guy nor do I follow many campaigns. I voted  for a democrat and a republican for president; the best person for the  job always gets my vote. But this is the first time in a long time that  I&#8217;ve seen an honest person make it this far in politics. Usually they  get creamed by the media &#8211; Palin is still holding her own. What you see  is what you get &#8211; nice change of pace especially since I&#8217;m originally  from Delaware. No doubt this isn&#8217;t true for Biden &#8211; he&#8217;s all over the  place telling you whatever it is you want to hear whenever you want to  hear it.. I don&#8217;t dislike Biden and yes, he is qualified to continue  the same old Washington politics; not what I&#8217;m looking for this year at  least.</p><p>I&#8217;m still wondering why Obama thinks Biden represents change? Not even close.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-95">Sarah Palin&#8217;s much sharper than Obama or Biden</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.morethings.com" rel="nofollow">Al Barger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:08.</div><div><p>Not  to put too fine a point on it, Sarah Palin&#8217;s the sharpest person of the  four here. People I think get that when they get a good look at her as  in her famous nomination speech or last night&#8217;s vice presidential  debate.</p><p>Of course, this ain&#8217;t from lack of media attempts to Quayle-ize her.  Look at the double, triple, quadruple standards. It&#8217;s supposedly some  proof that she&#8217;s a moron that she didn&#8217;t choose to spit up a list of  newspapers she reads for Katie Couric.</p><p>But Joe Biden says the most ignorant nonsense day after day, and it  doesn&#8217;t make the news. When the current financial meltdown started a  few weeks ago, Biden was out criticizing Bush reaction. See, when the  1929 market crash happened, FDR when on television to show people that  he was involved and doing something. FDR wasn&#8217;t president, and there  was no television then. This nonsense didn&#8217;t make the news. Imagine if  Palin said something that stupid.<br
/> =====================================<br
/> Little known Palin fact:<br
/> FACT: Having run out of ammunition during a hunting trip, Sarah Palin  once took down a moose using a beauty pageant tiara as a boomerang.</p><p>More Palin fun facts I just made up, and a couple hundred pictures of our girl<br
/> <a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-94">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Robert (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 20:00.</div><div><p>Joe Biden, VP  (Vice and Plagiarist)</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-93">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ethel W (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:50.</div><div><p>Obama has done much good thru working for ACORN.  Remember, from tiny acorns, might oak trees grow.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-92">Barack&#8217;s leadership skills in government?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:43.</div><div><p>Please folks &#8211; give us an example.  And please, make it a good one.</p><p>If this were an election for Student Body President, I might vote  for the dude, but he&#8217;s applying to be the Leader of the United States  of America. Is there anything in his governmental experience that  indicates that he can be a great leader? Anything?</p><p>This ain&#8217;t no popularity contest&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-91">Palin as Prez? No Way</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://janetleejohnson.com" rel="nofollow">Janet Johnson</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  tired of Sarah Palin. I&#8217;m tired of kicking her around, of waiting for  her to have a public brain freeze, of hearing her droppin&#8217; g&#8217;s and  bringing nuc-u-lur back into the lexicon (I hope we&#8217;re almost finished  with that coming out of the White House).</p><p>At the same time, I&#8217;m proud that she&#8217;s the second legitimate woman  who&#8217;s a running mate on a presidential ticket, the first to &#8220;electrify&#8221;  a country. I&#8217;m mortified as I write that, but I&#8217;m proud of that big ol&#8217;  crack in the glass ceilin&#8217; she&#8217;s added to Hilary&#8217;s 18 million others.  (sigh)</p><p>As most of your poll-takers agree, no way is she qualified to be president. God help us all if she&#8217;s a heartbeat away.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-90">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Stevie (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:35.</div><div><p>Do  I feel that a citizen of this country who has not kept abreast of the  foreign policy situations, and the current administration doctrines is  qualified to step in as head of state in an emergency? No&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who will terminate people who disagree with her is worthy to be in the White House? No&#8230;&#8230;.<br
/> Do I feel that someone who feels that because she is a woman she should  be treated with deference in a television interview should be leading a  country? No&#8230;..<br
/> Does a cram session with various political pundits counteract her  inacurate knowledge of what life is like for the rest of us in the  lower 48? No&#8230;&#8230;<br
/> Does this woman have the ability to gain respect of various world  leaders particularly those from countries where women are considered to  be less than equal? no.<br
/> what we really need is a Margaret Thatcher type.. the closest we have is Hilary Clinton.<br
/> Anita Palin is no Hilary Clinton<br
/> And being a POW and being in the Vietnam War does not make you the  right person to be president either. There are plenty of Vietnam Vets  and others who were POW&#8217;s .. and they aren&#8217;t running for President&#8211;  though John Kerry did.. and he wasn&#8217;t a POW.. he served his country.  Don&#8217;t bank on that one being the ACE..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-89">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:29.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would want his friend Tony Rezko to advise him on ethics in government.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-88">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:28.</div><div><p>Or maybe Obama would like William Ayers for his Secretary of Defense, since he knows how to blow things up.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-87">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:25.</div><div><p>Maybe  Obama can install Rev. Wright as Secretary of State. All the other  nations of the world will love his philosophy: God damn America!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-86">Re: amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:23.</div><div><p>I  think where the logic breaks down is that you&#8217;re assuming all  Governor&#8217;s are created equally. An American Governor&#8217;s principal job is  running the state, and to be honest, I&#8217;m not sure how good a governor  she is, but thats for the people of Alaska to decide. But as an  American, I feel that she&#8217;s dangerously ignorant of world affairs and  issues around a global economy.</p><p>And frankly, I think we&#8217;ve had enough of that already.</p><p>On the other hand, Obama and Biden are far more savvy. If you  watched the debate, you&#8217;ll have noticed how rarely Palin answers a  direct question. She&#8217;s not dumb, but she&#8217;s not worldly either. And  worse, she revels in her inexperience.</p><p>If she ever gets into the Presidential office, you might just wish  for the good ol days when GW was in charge. And if that doesn&#8217;t scare  you, it should.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-85">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:21.</div><div><p>Don&#8217;t you love it when a public relations man calls people degrading, hateful names?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-84">That is just dumb</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:16.</div><div><p>You  and your swill slinging dopes really should stop. Aside from Billy Bobs  missing teeth with Confederate Flags in their pickups, Americans  understand that Senator Obama is as American as you or I.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-83">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:15.</div><div><p>Someone  commented on here that we live in a Global society and therefore need  Obama. Folks, this world is getting so screwy and dangerous, that is  exactly why we do NOT need a post-modern green horn such as Obama as  POTUS. All the pie in the sky he professes is absolutely meaningless  without solid, tough, and REAL national security. Somehow, grandiose  social programs lose their luster when you have a nuclear missile up  your ass.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-82">double standard</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.madeinhead.org" rel="nofollow">Jason Preston</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:12.</div><div><p>Palin  took five tries and five years to get a journalism degree at  undistinguished schools, and managed to be an undistinguished student  at all four schools involved in her quest for a chance to be a TV  reporter. Obama was at the top of his class at every step of his  collegiate journey. When pressed three times to answer, Palin cannot  name a single existing newspaper or news magazine that she reads. If  you can&#8217;t see the difference here, perhaps you&#8217;re not an ideal student  or intellect either, but only through pride does a person lacking in a  certain virtue seek to exalt that lack. Just because I&#8217;m not tall  enough to slam dunk doesn&#8217;t mean I push for the NBA to hire more short  people! The Presidency&#8217;s the hardest job in the world, or one of them.  Stellar intellect, stellar ethics, and stellar success in life should  all be ironclad prerequisites to the job. If Palin is qualified to be  President, I am twice as qualified and will expect Palin fans&#8217; votes  when I make my run for high office.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-81">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Cowboy X (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:10.</div><div><p>Who  is qualified to be the President? There is no class to take to become  certified. We have to put our trust in a person. I wish that person  were Ron Paul!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-80">amazing 75% believe Palin cant be President</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 19:00.</div><div><p>So  75% believe Palin cant be president in case something happens to  McCain. So I guess its OK to be an inexperienced presidential  candidate, but if your a vice presidential candidate who has actually  run a state, you don&#8217;t qualify. The logic here escapes me completely.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-79">Sarah Palin: Unfiltered</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.petitiononline.com/CBSPALIN/petition.html" rel="nofollow">John Schuller</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:50.</div><div><p>CLICK ON MY NAME TO SIGN THIS PETITION</p><p>To:  CBS News</p><p>Sarah Palin herself has requested to speak to America without the  Media Filter in the Vice Presidential debate. ?I like being able to  answer tough questions without the filter of the mainstream media  telling the American people what they just heard,? she said in her  closing.</p><p>The people of the United States of America deserve to see the CBS Katie Couric interviews with Sarah Palin in their entirety.</p><p>This should be acceptable by Republicans and Democrats as it will  let Sarah Palin talk to America without the filter created by editing  and leaving important information on the cutting room floor.</p><p>Let us see an edition of &#8220;Sarah Palin: Unfiltered&#8221;.</p><p>This will allow Americans to see the real Sarah Palin.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>The Undersigned</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-78">Seriously&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://newyorkmomentsblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">newyorkmoments</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:49.</div><div><p>regardless  of the VP candidates&#8230;are we really going to vote in a Hussein????  Seriously?? I&#8217;m saddened that I&#8217;m not going to be able to vote Democrat  this election.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-77">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:43.</div><div><p>I  sent John McCain a $1000 in September 2007&#8230;when his campaign was  flailing. I believed his voice needed to be in the debate. Until Sarah  Palin&#8217;s acceptance speech I did not send a penny to any other  candidate.</p><p>I was so outraged by the poor judgment demonstrated by McCain &#8212;  there were thousands, if not tens of thousands, of more capable,  competent men and women who could serve as his VP. I promptly sent a  large contribution to Obama. And with every solicitation letter I  receive from John McCain (they arrive daily), I write to ask for my  money back.</p><p>Whether &#8220;Joe six-pack&#8221; likes it or not&#8230;we live in a Global  Society, not an igloo nation. We already had Joe-six pack from  President for the last 8 years. Doesn&#8217;t any one remember &#8211; &#8220;George W.  Bush is the guy I want to have at my BBQ&#8221;???&#8230;Well &#8211; we got him&#8211; only  we got bbq&#8217;d.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-76">Re: Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Eric (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:35.</div><div><p>Would it be so much to ask for a Presidential nominee who actually had some experience?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-75">Would it be so much to ask&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.liesdamnedlies.com" rel="nofollow">Ian Thomas</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:32.</div><div><p>&#8230;for a VP nominee who actually had some experience *before* she takes office?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-74">Third out of four</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:30.</div><div><p>Stack  rank all four candidates &#8212; Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin &#8212; in terms  of experience, and she comes out 3rd out of 4. Obama is last.</p><p>Stack rank all four candidates in terms of executive experience &#8212;  meaning, &#8216;has the candidate ever managed a budget before, had headcount  before, and had to make decisions as opposed to provide advice&#8217; &#8212; and  she incredibly comes out first amongst the four, as she&#8217;s been both  governor and mayor.</p><p>Being the governor of a state was good enough for Clinton, good enough for Romney, and good enough for Reagan.</p><p>Those who attack her experience must feel terrible that Obama is the  leading candidate for the Dem&#8217;s, given his extraordinarily thin resume.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-73">If Barack Doesn&#8217;t Die, Is He Qualified?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://playborhood.com" rel="nofollow">Mike Lanza</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:29.</div><div><p>Be  honest, folks. In his career in *government*, not running a campaign,  has he ever demonstrated outstanding leadership or executive skills?  Sarah certainly has, but her experience may nonetheless be too light.</p><p>Barack Obama has the least leadership or executive skills of *any* of the major candidates for president or vice president.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-72">Not a fan, but c&#8217;mon</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.dpkpr.com" rel="nofollow">Dan Keeney, APR</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:21.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  not a Sarah fan, but she has a solid foundation &#8212; an ability to  connect with men and women, powerfully deliver her messages and ramp up  quickly on complex subjects. The actuaries estimate that there is a 75%  chance that Mr. McCain would survive a first term. Presumably, the  chances of him passing in the first YEAR would be very small. So the  real question would be &#8212; If Sarah Palin had at least a year as Vice  President under her belt, would she be competent to be President if  John McCain were to be incapacitated? I don&#8217;t have any doubt that she  would. I will not be voting for the GOP ticket, but the fear mongering  about Ms. Palin&#8217;s ability is baseless and perhaps sexist.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-71">To Pat Baker,  Actually, she</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 18:01.</div><div><p>To Pat Baker,<br
/> Actually, she has NOT been governor for a few years. She has been a  governor since 2007, she won the election at the END of 2006. So, not  even 2 years yet.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-70">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by The Sensible J. (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:58.</div><div><p>When  a lot of people say she was put in the VP nominee ticket because she  would shake things up for the Republican party, that&#8217;s scary. Why was  that the first and foremost reason why she was picked?!</p><p>We are not running a popularity contest here for god&#8217;s sake. We need  a leader, a WORLD LEADER that will get American back into the  respectful country it is amongst other nations in this world. Not a PTA  mom who claims she can juggle 5 kids when in fact her nanny, chef,  driver/pilot, gardener and 20 other staffers take care of the Mom role  for her. I&#8217;m all for the &#8220;women can do the same if not better job than  men&#8221; ideal, but come on, she isn&#8217;t even up to par on her events and  history. When you can only make punch points and be a talking head,  that is NOT a leader. She can&#8217;t even name ONE supreme court decision  other than Row vs. Wade. And being able to see Russia from Alaska does  not qualify as foreign experience. We do not need and DO NOT want an  average Joe or Jane to be our president or vice president.</p><p>It is scary when our (by that I mean the republicans) expectations have sunk so low.</p><p>And it&#8217;s even more scary when people are voting for republican  SIMPLY because she&#8217;s pro-life, even for those women who were victims of  rape or incest would NOT get a choice. That alone, to me, is hugely  undermining the equality so many women have worked so hard for so many  years.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-69">Sarah Palin Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://cashflowtipsbydon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Don S</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:54.</div><div><p>Maybe  the most appropriate question is . . . if Barack Obama is elected  president, whether or not John McCain dies, is he qualified to lead the  country?</p><p>Being a governor is a proven road to the White House. Alaska is a  strategic state. Let&#8217;s see: Clinton was from Arkansas &#8212; even less  strategic, Carter from Georgia and Reagan from California . . . Bush  from Texas . . . oh, sure, I saw a post on the Huffington Post this  week that said &#8220;Bush is intellectually challenged.&#8221; Of course, there  was no evidence to support the claim.</p><p>Obama is currently more likely to become president than Sarah Palin  and that&#8217;s something that should concern all clear-thinking Americans.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-67">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Bill Platt (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:45.</div><div><p>Deluded?  Although she has as much or more experience than Obama, you are willing  to suggest that my delusion is that she could not be President, but  Obama can be?</p><p>The only delusion is that Obama&#8217;s experience is greater than hers.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-66">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:31.</div><div><p>Palin is absolutely not qualified &#8211; anyone who thinks so is deluded.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-65">Re: pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:29.</div><div><p>The point was she won&#8217;t take no crap.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-64">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:27.</div><div><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p><p>Then James they should do the same before becoming parents. Maybe  then we won&#8217;t have so many libetards. Bunch of whiners don&#8217;t know a  good thing when it slaps them upside the head.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-63">Re: Re: Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:26.</div><div><p>As  a Vietnam veteran I can assure you that sad fact by itself (yeah, we  lost a war we had no business being in) does not qualify anyone to be  President. While I respect McCain&#8217;s service to his country McCain  himself has admitted that he collaborated with the enemy and signed  documents condemning America&#8217;s.bombing of Hanoi as being war crimes.</p><p>As at the time we were carpet bombing a densely populated Hanoi with  low level B-52 bombing runs, the North Vietnamese perhaps had a point  that a stressed out and in terrible pain McCain decided to agree with.</p><p>Not that I blame him. Fortunately, my POW camp experience was  limited to a combat training exercise at Camp Lejeune, N.C. It was only  for a very long day but that was enough to make brave grown men trained  for combat by battle hardened US Marines cry out in pain. McCain&#8217;s  experience had to be horrible and I&#8217;m sure that the scars, mental and  physical, must still be with him.</p><p>However, I wasn&#8217;t referring to McCain other than his grandstanding  poor judgement in selecting Governor Palin as his running mate. Sarah  may be a swell gal, certainly her down home nature appeals to a lot of  down home people across America, but please, qualified to perhaps have  to step into the President&#8217;s role?</p><p>She is a little league player suddenly thrown into the major  leagues. I admire her spunk but fear her aggressive claim that she is  ready to serve when she can&#8217;t even handle soft ball interviews. Who  wants a President just like an average Joe? In case you haven&#8217;t noticed  there are very complicated problems that America faces that will  require outstanding leadership to solve.</p><p>I&#8217;m not a big Obama fan either but at least the man has first class  intelligence and a first class temperament. He doesn&#8217;t tend to shoot  from the hip or fire, ready, aim like old fighter pilots are apt to do.  Palin was a choice designed to fire up the Republican Party&#8217;s  conservative base and in that the move was successful. But at what risk  to the country if McCain and Palin are elected?</p><p>With the odds being about one in four that a 72 year old cancer  survivor would not make it another four years a President Palin is a  frightening possibility.</p><p>That&#8217;s putting country first? Please! Give me a break.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-62">ldaught2  AHEM ! ! !</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:24.</div><div><p>ldaught2</p><p>AHEM ! ! !</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-61">Re: Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by ldaught2 (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:16.</div><div><p>//Until then, keep reading all the world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.//</p><p>Are you kidding?? what can a bias newspaper and magazine teach??  (and that would be all of them)That is the most idiot statement I have  read!</p><p>To answer the question&#8230;Could Palin be President?&#8230;yes yes and  yes&#8230;.The other 3 on the ticket was in the senate and HELPED drive  America where we are today! I dont care if Palin comes from a goat  farm, she could do better than this stinkin government!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-60">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:15.</div><div><p>Lady Coveted&#8230;.another woman that feels threatened by good looking successful women.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-59">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>James flew in from that alternate universe that Joe Biden lives in.   Maybe the Missouri Truth Squad can help him.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-58">pailin would shove her heels up putin&#8217;s a&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://the-coveted.com/blog" rel="nofollow">lady coveted</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:14.</div><div><p>being as putin&#8217;s no longer president of russia.</p><p>dmitri medvedev succeeded putin back in march, she&#8217;s so out of touch she&#8217;d probably miss that point too.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-57">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 17:08.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s  competent all right. Competent enough to ban books at the public  library, books she has never even read. Competent enough to try to fire  a librarian who was just doing her job, Competent enough to veto sex  education for minors, (surprise there huh?), competent enough to fire  the head of the troopers who refused to fire her ex-brother in law for  unjustifiable reasons.</p><p>No wonder repugs love her so much, she&#8217;ll fit right in..*L*</p><p>At least Obama went through a process and garnered enough votes to  earn the right to be where he is today. Palin was handed the position  because McCain needed a quick fix and liked the way she looked and  talked.</p><p>Was she the most qualified and best suited republican for the job?  Of course not and people are not being genuine if they say yes. For  that reason McCain should and will lose this election.</p><p>Too bad they don&#8217;t have a minimum test for people to take in order to qualify for the job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-56">Re: Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:54.</div><div><p>Palin would shove her pretty heels up Putin&#8217;s ass.  Then make him beg for more.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-55">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Ken S (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>Yes.  She would do a great job, because she has intelligence coupled with  common sense, grit, and good solid values. Would to God that this  country had had dozens of Presidents like her instead of some of the  buffoons we&#8217;ve suffered through.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-54">Re: People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by Chemosapien = Idiot (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:52.</div><div><p>No he&#8217;ll bring them in from the hood.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-53">Shooting wolves from a Copter</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:50.</div><div><p>is  not the kind of Hunter i respect&#8230;..and margaret Thatcher is on her  way over their to whoop your ass for comparing her to Palin&#8230;.Thatcher  was one of the most intelligent and tough politicians in modern  times&#8230;.Palin doesn&#8217;t have a college education and she can&#8217;t even  stand up to KATIE M*^#ATHERF%*#KING COURIC&#8230;.stop comparing her to  Thatcher</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:49.</div><div><p>Obama  will have the flag stomper and terrorist, Dick Ayres and the God D@*$  America Reverend Wright. Both these gentlemen have doctorates!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-51">People around you</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>it  is very important who the president brings into their admin&#8230;..I&#8217;m  certain Obama isn&#8217;t going to fill his cabinet from his high school  yearbook like little miss Palin</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-50">Obama Qualified</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>A one-term governor who is the most popular governor in the country.</p><p>Of course, that&#8217;s one more term than former &#8220;community organizer&#8221; and one-term senator.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-49">Re: Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:46.</div><div><p>Obviously  you haven&#8217;t seen Sarah Palin in the real world, she hunts guts and eats  things that get in her way, I would imagine you are the type of idiot  that thought Margaret Thatcher was a bad choice too&#8230;.Russia would beg  for forgiveness from Palin and Putin would be licking Sarah&#8217;s boots in  red square&#8230;.</p><p>Moron.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-48">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://mrclm.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chris Meirose</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:45.</div><div><p>More  competent than Al Gore. More competent than Dick Cheney. More competent  than Dan Quayle. Palin would do just fine. Being president is as much  or more about who you have around you than anything else. You must be  able to make tough decisions, and know what you believe in, but at the  end of the day the experts you surround yourself with as President will  make or break your term in the modern context.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.pullinsreport.com" rel="nofollow">Scott Pullins</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>She&#8217;s clearly not competent.</p><p><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-46">Pansies? then what&#8230;</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:43.</div><div><p>russia  calls us a bunch of homos, and Putin slams his shoe on the desk?  &#8230;&#8230;if Palin were president Putin would literally rape her mouth on  live telivision then claim he thought she was the &#8220;entertainment&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-45">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:42.</div><div><p>The  answer is YES, she has run something, SHE has more experience RUNNING a  government than ANY of the candidates&#8230; So yes she is Qualified.</p><p>Obama isn&#8217;t qualified to be elected dog catcher, McCain at least has  the experience in dealing with hostile forces, and for you libtards  there still are hostile forces at work oh and they are hoping for Obama  too&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-44">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:41.</div><div><p>I  didn&#8217;t say NO degree. I said not an &#8220;Ivy League Degree&#8221;. I was just  giving my opinion &#8211; &#8220;If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would  Sarah Palin be competent to be President?&#8221; My answer is yes.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-43">Palin</a></div><div> Submitted by Matt Jones (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:40.</div><div><p>Clinton&#8217;s  budget experience was a budget of Arkansas which was smaller than  cuyahoga county. Obama has ZERO budget experience. She can manage a  budget. She communicates and articulates the GOP positions more  effectively than McCain, Bush, Cheney and Dole to name some powerful  people.</p><p>go to Canada you commie bastages!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:39.</div><div><p>and  an Obama/Biden victory will make us look like a bunch of pansies&#8230;I  would love for you to explain how a war veteran that went through what  McCain did would cause the world to look at us as a laughing stock? Mrs  Thatcher was looked at a little off by the owrkd but she did fine? is  it you are scared of women or hunting women?</p><p>Palin is the only candidate in the race I would vote for president  and be happy about it. I will vote McCain just to get Sarah Palin  closer to the Big Job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-41">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to wipe my ass</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>The US is going to hell because McCain&#8217;s buddy George Bush set us on that course.  4 more years of that?</p><p>BTW, the question was if McCain kicks, is Palin qualified?  And the answer is no.</p><p>Instead of attacking Obama, how about telling why you think Palin is  qualified? Is it because even you know she isn&#8217;t? Typical Republican.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:35.</div><div><p>All  those &#8220;economic experts&#8221; have great post-grad degrees from high end  schools. Hopefully, that will help them as they look for a new job.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-39">Palin is a Disgrace Which Makes McCain a Fool</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.taipaninvestor.info/blog" rel="nofollow">Gerald</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:34.</div><div><p>Palin  makes a big deal about her &#8220;six pack joe&#8221; ways and seems to be proud of  her ignorance. We have had almost eight years of a largely  disinterested in the world at large President and see where that has  taken us. American is on a slippery downward slope and it will be  difficult to avoid a hard crash and burn landing.</p><p>I for one don&#8217;t want someone as VP, who may well end up being  President, who is just another six pack Joe yahoo. America is the  laughing stock of the world just to have such a yahoo candidate.</p><p>If McCain and Palin are somehow elected American&#8217;s standing in the  world as a world leader, much less a super power, will be further  reduced to the vanishing point. We would be looked upon as a nation of  village idiots.</p><p>It&#8217;s not that I love Obama. Come to think of it with the choice down  to Obama or McCain perhaps we American have found the perfect means to  self destruct. The support given by McCain and Obama for the $700  billion bailout bill (before another $100 billion or so in pure pork  was added) is another giant step in that direction.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-38">Re: Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:33.</div><div><p>&#8220;You  idiots care more about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the  stars and stripes. You get what you deserve.&#8221; The truest statement  since Reagan stated the most scary thing ever was &#8220;I&#8217;m from the  government and I&#8217;m here to help&#8221;</p><p>I wouldnt be so dead set against OBAMA if he were more Country  first, rather than Blame everyone else&#8230; HIS party has led congress  for the last 2 years and we have gone from solvency to bankruptcy and  BOTH parties are to blame, ONLY one party is used to responsibility,  the other is used to &#8220;Tolerance&#8221; and forgiveness of their own&#8230;.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-37">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:31.</div><div><p>you  mean like the modern day general who doesn&#8217;t have a college degree? are  we suddenly recruiting presidents from third world countries? because  EVERY American General has a college degree&#8230;&#8230;lets not pretend we  live in the world of 2 centuries ago</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-36">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Nothing  like partisanship. That&#8217;s right put the party before the country. No  wonder the US is going to hell in a rocketship. You idiots care more  about a donkey and an elephant than you do about the stars and stripes.  You get what you deserve.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-35">Re: Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:28.</div><div><p>Oh  and I&#8217;m qualified because I am a black community organizer.. Don&#8217;t look  at the communities I organized or anything, just trust me for CHANGE&#8230;  BS, it is highway strong arm robbery, ACORN? Rev Wright? Ayers?  Phlegar? Farakhan? Ok Palin has what? A couple of LIES perpetrated by  the elitist media that have been debunked. Yeah Obama in 08 and the end  of our nation in 09&#8230;.good plan.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-34">Re: Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://experiencecurve.com" rel="nofollow">Karl</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:27.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  ironic that if you guys had listened to Carter in the 70&#8242;s you would  not be as f**cked as you are now and you would probably have energy  independence.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-33">Palin isn&#8217;t competent to walk my dog</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:24.</div><div><p>Say  what you want about Obama, he&#8217;ll make a much better President than  either &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I can see Russia from my pooper, yah, you  betcha&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m qualified because I was a POW a million years ago,  wait, what was the question again?&#8221;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-32">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.Matt-Sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">Matt Sanchez</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>Palin  Derangement Syndrome is alive and well as the media blitzkrieg is  desperate to discredit the Palin/McCain presidential ticket.</p><p>Palin handily beat Biden down last night, and that causes severe swelling in the liberal frontal lobe.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-31">Competent&#8230;OBama?</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>So  you say go back home hockey mom&#8230; Wow&#8230; your complete lack of what a  hockey mom is.. basically a communtity leader&#8230;hmmm Let&#8217;s see Omaa is  just that, he has not been a Governer, worked a state budger.. .his  short political careeer shows less tenure that Palin. Fair is Fair ,  your last paragraph shows your compete ignorance,,, go read a bit  yourself!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-30">Re: Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Anonymous</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:19.</div><div><p>You mean like George Washington?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-29">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://republicaninthearts.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Incognito</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:14.</div><div><p>and  how about looking at it this way&#8230; with all Biden&#8217;s asinine gaffes  would people be thrilled to have him as president, if Obama were to  die? I&#8217;d be much happier with a Palin presidency than either an Obama  or Biden presidency.</p><p>She&#8217;s done very well for Alaska&#8230;thank you very much.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-28">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.golfblogger.com" rel="nofollow">GolfBlogger</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:10.</div><div><p>It&#8217;s  not saying much, but I think Palin&#8217;s more qualified than Obama. The  problem is that if you vote Republican, an unqualified person MIGHT  become president. If you vote Democrat, an unqualified person WILL  become president.</p><p>The only logical ticket is Biden-McCain &#8212; one which, during the primaries, Joe Biden said he wouldn&#8217;t mind.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-27">Margaret, its me God</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:09.</div><div><p>you  would not make a good president nor would anyone who doesn&#8217;t have an  University Degree&#8230;..watch that sassy little Katie Couric if you want  to know why Sara Palin is completely incompetent</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-26">What the&#8230;?</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.soldiersperspective.us" rel="nofollow">CJ Grisham</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:07.</div><div><p>If Palin isn&#8217;t competent enough to be President, then Obama is even LESS competent to hold the position!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-25">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by Margaret (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 16:03.</div><div><p>Why  won&#8217;t Sara Palin be a competent President? Is there anything about  Obama that makes him more intelligent than Palin? It offends me as a  person to think differently. I believe she would do as well, if not  better, than any other of the men or women who have made a run during  this election.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t go to an ivy league college. I haven&#8217;t served as a PTO  chairperson or any other office but I think I would make a darn good  president. I&#8217;m excited to think that maybe we might have something  fresh in the office. From Hillary to McCain it is the same old same old.</p><p>Margaret</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-24">experience or education ?</a></div><div> Submitted by James (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:57.</div><div><p>While  one could argue all day long about the experience factor between Obama  and Palin, one can&#8217;t argue much about the difference in education. I  would rather have someone educated in the highest office of the land.</p><p>Thanks, but no thanks for that sweet talkin&#8217;, well read gal from Alaska.</p><p>Don&#8217;t YA know?</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-23">Re: If John McCain died or became incapacitated, would Sarah Pal</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://americanandproud.net" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:55.</div><div><p>I  am voting for McCain/Palin for precisely that reason, I would be WAY  more happy with Palin as President than I will be with McCain.<br
/> If Obama wins we ALL lose&#8230;.Oh and a preemptive dismiss to those that  say it&#8217;s because he is black&#8230;Its not because he is black its because  he is a communist/socialist libtard baby killing gun taking no  leadership other than &#8220;ACORN&#8221; type skills&#8230;. but vote how you want, I  cant wait till you liberal idiots get what you want, just like after  Carter, you came crying to the Conservatives to save you, Obama is a  black Carter maybe worse.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-22">NFW</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://twww.mahamatzav.org" rel="nofollow">rebaaron</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:54.</div><div><p>Sarah  Palin is a poser. She&#8217;s so enamored with Ronald Reagan I believe, in  part, because she&#8217;s just like him &#8211; an actor. Reagan wasn&#8217;t a president  as much as he was able to act like a president. The VP debates last  night showed this &#8211; Palin is all show and no substance. What&#8217;s really  scary is she believes that she&#8217;s capable. I think she really has no  idea and is not capable of getting it. I think some call this  sociopathic tendencies?!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-21">Palin Did Better Than Expected</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Atheist Jew</a> (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>She proved to me that she doesn&#8217;t have an IQ of 75.  It is more like 90 or 95.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-20">National Level Experience (NLE)</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 15:53.</div><div><p>Palin  is an order of magnitude more Podunk than any national political figure  in modern times. Case in point, 6 months ago, Palin said, flat out, she  is not INTERESTED in national policy, as in she doesn&#8217;t have the time  or will to keep up with what is going on in this country&#8230;when you use  NLE as the measure Obama is far ahead of Palin, exemplified by the fact  that the very first thing he did in the Senate was get a law passed to  help secure &#8220;loose nukes&#8221; in the former USSR&#8230;.compare that to Palin  who apparently could not even pass a seventh grade civics test (doesn&#8217;t  know any supreme court cases besides Roe v. Wade?)</p><p>All the PAlin supporters are the same , pardon my french, IDIOTS who  supported GW because he&#8217;s a guy they can drink a beer with&#8230;..Palin  sure is a regular joe&#8230;Joe Retard that is</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-18">And Barack is Qualified? </a></div><div> Submitted by J (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 14:33.</div><div><p>I  love how people point out how Palin&#8217;s not qualified SHOULD something  happen to McCain. And what makes Barack qualified? He&#8217;s been in the  Senate for 2 years? And if he is elected, he&#8217;s it. At least with  McCain, we&#8217;re electing a very seasoned and proven person who has a  pretty good track record for change. Obama can talk about change but he  hasn&#8217;t walked it at all.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-17">Re: Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:32.</div><div><p>Source please.  Media previously said superficial Basal cell.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-16">Re: McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 13:15.</div><div><p>He has had MELANOMA. The deadliest form of skin cancer</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-15">Competent?</a></div><div> Submitted by rusmayse on Fri, 10/03/2008 &#8211; 00:48.</div><div><p>Poor  Palin. I commend her on the acceptance of such a difficult position in  such a tough time. It takes a really strong person to take on the role  she has. And I do agree with the fact that she may &#8220;catch on quickly&#8221;.  I&#8217;m just particularly concerned and unsure she has any idea what she is  doing. Period.<br
/> Go back home hockey mom. Gain experience over the next 8 years. Become  more involved on a national level. Listen to the cries of us people.  And then please, come back again :) Until then, keep reading all the  world&#8217;s magazines and Newspapers. They actually can teach you a lot.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-14">Not as a woman, or a man</a></div><div> Submitted by TomCollins2100 on Thu, 10/02/2008 &#8211; 23:33.</div><div><p>Are  you kidding? The notion that she&#8217;s being unfairly judged as unqualified  because she&#8217;s a woman is absurd. If she were a man, McCain would have  been laughed out of the country for picking a first-term governor with  no other applicable experience and zero national &#8211; let alone foreign  policy &#8211; qualifications.</p><p>Women with any brains at all should be insulted that McCain and the  Republicans think that they will vote for any woman they offer, or  belive this particular woman is remotely qualified to run any country,  forget about the United States.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-13">RELEASE THE MEDICAL RECORDS</a></div><div> Submitted by chemosapien (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 16:02.</div><div><p>what  you say is partially true, superficial skin cancers are not fatal,  especially with decent healthcare, but WE DON&#8217;T KNOW THE EXTENT OF  MCCAIN&#8221;S CANCER because he won&#8217;t release ALL of his medical  records&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t sit here and defend him against this criticism, when  his campaign could put this completely to bed with a single phone call  to his doctor.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-12"> Palin needs to read a American History Booko</a></div><div> Submitted by pat baker (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:41.</div><div><p>I&#8217;m  sick of McCain calling Obama a on the job learner, community action  worker. Palin is is a affrimative action herself. Mrs Bush said she was  a &#8220;quick learner&#8221; Do I need a vp who is a quick learner? She&#8217;s just a  Gov for a few years, no national experience. She can&#8217;t answer straight  question. These photo opts with people from the MiddleEast aren&#8217;t  getting on my nerves, they are making me sick Who cares if she&#8217;s cute  while my 401 K might go down the tubes!. Hillary Clinton would run  rings around her. I don&#8217;t need a &#8221; on the job VP during these troubled  times..</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-11">McCain&#8217;s &#8220;Cancer&#8221;</a></div><div> Submitted by <a
href="http://www.omarhamada.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Omar Hamada</a> (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 15:33.</div><div><p>Enough  of the cancer stuff!!! Talk about spin and/or ignorance! When&#8217;s the  last time someone actually died from superficial squamous or basal cell  skin cancer? Answer: NEVER. Now if it were actually melanoma or other  types of invasive squamous cell cancer, then it would be a different  story &#8211; BUT IT&#8217;S NOT!!!!!!</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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href="http://ahpoll.com/content/if-john-mccain-died-or-became-incapacitated-would-sarah-palin-be-competent-be-president#comment-9">but seriously, she reads ALL the newspapers</a></div><div> Submitted by Dave (not verified) on Wed, 10/01/2008 &#8211; 00:55.</div><div><p>Check  out her interview with Katie Couric. She shares that she reads ALL the  newspapers in the world. She must be really freakin smart. She also  graduated from the University of Idaho. I mean it doesnt get much more  prestigious than that. And besides, who is Biden to talk.</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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/> She knows what everyone needs&#8230;</p></p></div><div><ul><li><a
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/> After 15-years in DC, I have noticed that those noble activists who are saving the world have yet to save themselves, their marriages, their families, and their children.</p><p>The children of many of the founders of these organizations are a mess, with boys and girls as scared and abandoned as the children of their more celebrated Hollywood celebrities and New York robber barons. They are cared for by nannies and oftentimes never see their parents for weeks at a time.</p><p>All because one or more of their parents are making sacrifices for a higher, nobler cause: saving the whales.  Or some similar <em>cause celebre</em>.</p><p><img
src="http://www.chrisabraham.com/dontSaveTheWhales-thumb.jpg" alt="dontSaveTheWhales thumb My Selfish Attitude to Life on Whales" align="right" height="300" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="300" title="My Selfish Attitude to Life on Whales" />The illusion of nobility associated with saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.</p><p>If you have <em>all</em> of your ducks in a row, if your children are happy and well-adjusted, if your health is good and you get enough sleep and exercise, if you still chase your spouse around the bed pretty regularly, and you call your mother, with energy to spare for yourself, then you have the right to save the whales.</p><p>Otherwise, you are chasing phantoms, you are wasting your time, and you had better still yourself enough to remember why you got married, why you had children, and whether the whales really matter to you any more or if you’re just used to saving the whales.</p><p>Otherwise, let the whales fend for themselves for a little while while you get yourself together.</p><p>If you disrespect your own family enough to abandon them for your noble cause then the whales are better off without you. Resign from your save the whales campaign immediately, move to New York, and settle in to a life on Wall Street.</p><p>If you’re going to be ignoble, you might as well do it for money.  The entire order <a
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Through serving others, we can learn to help ourselves and our families.</p><p>It is a shame that such impulses are not instinctual (hence the reason why airlines have to remind to you put on your oxygen mask before assisting your neighbor), but we are contradictory beings.</p><p>Accept the ambiguity and respect both service to others and our quests for personal virtue. They go hand in hand.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:32 AM</p><p>There is no apathy in my life. And there are also many distractions. I have spent years dancing with dolphins and whales as a SCUBA diver and know them more than many and for this I am grateful.</p><p>What is more noble than the ambition of saving oneself?</p><p>Doctor King was a whale, if you will. He was saving himself, his family, and his community. I am surprised that you overlooked that.</p><p>So, maybe I am not so naive.</p><p>And the most valuable lessons are in fact gleaned from serving others, but try to keep it local. As in your spouse, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your community. If you have energy left over, then spend it along the same vein.</p><p>The nature of the world is not really as it seems. Try to only serve others you can touch, see, feel, help, interact with, and live with.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 10:47 AM</p><p>Dr. King was a philanderer saint.</p><p>Beethoven was an abusive genius.</p><p>Ghandi&#8230;well, he was all good.</p><p>The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.</p><p>I know you&#8217;re neither naieve nor apathetic, so don&#8217;t come off like it by saying, &#8220;saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.&#8221;</p><p>If people don&#8217;t save the trees there will be no more familes to save.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:57 AM</p><p>As for one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, it makes more than more sense to me now that Roman Catholic priests are celibate. There are fewer distractions.</p><p>I am not saying that one should not perform one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work. But not to the harm of what really matters.</p><p>And I am not talking about one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, nor am I talking about destiny. What I am saying is that no matter how noble one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work may seem and no matter how important one&#8217;s destiny is, it is not remotely as important as serving your spouse, your children, your family, and your community.</p><p>There is nothing as modest, as honest, as life-affirming, and life-changing as that.</p><p>There is more harm done by a man who has a destiny, a noble aim, a a life&#8217;s work than anything else.</p><p>You mentioned Dr. King, Beethoven, and Ghandi.</p><p>I will mention some other men who have had life&#8217;s work and noble aims who lost site of themselves, their children, their family, and their community:</p><p>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong.</p><p>All men who didn&#8217;t put their &#8220;life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.&#8221;</p><p>To take it one step further, these men, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong, might have turned out differently if their mom, dad, family, and friends where better parents to them.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 11:34 AM</p><p>cop out.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 11:56 AM</p><p>There are many highly-gifted people in the world who have been treated like the young Gautama.</p><p>They are coddled, protected, and spoiled so that they may be allowed to focus on their destiny.</p><p>They distiny is as likely to be that of a surgeon, a scientist, a lawyer, a competitive skater, an athelete, a beauty queen, a pianist, a painter, a poet, or a priest as it is the King of the Whales.</p><p>There needs to be balance in all things. And what is the saddest part of this entire conversations is that the same man who said, &#8220;The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers&#8221; is also the man who spent months living in India.</p><p>I have never focused this on not saving the whales or not saving the forests but rather how much easier it is to forgive the distraction from the truth if that distraction is in fact popular or noble.</p><p>It&#8217;s neither nuclear family and Wall $treet, nor domestic abuse and whales.</p><p>There are countless great parents who are plenty involved with money, and plenty of awful parents who do invaluable work for their communities but are awful husbands and wives, who are awful parents to their children, and who are able to rationalize their entire failure because they have done some things that really don&#8217;t matter too much at the end of life really anyway.</p><p>There is another black and white annoyance: that money equals bad and activism equals good.</p><p>Sometimes entropy isn&#8217;t death. very often, it isn&#8217;t. Sometimes to struggle so hard for something that is so far removed and so not part of one&#8217;s life is like struggling in quicksand.</p><p>Not only is it a waste of energy, but the unintended consequence &#8212; sinking faster and being alienated from a helping hand &#8212; is worse than anything you could ever imagine.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 1:16 PM</p><p>there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of altruism to prop up their self-esteem, which suffers from things like failing to take care of their families or failing to succeed in relationships. it&#8217;s a shame, really.</p><p>Posted by: sam | April 12, 2005 8:30 AM</p><p>Sam, that&#8217;s the perfect way of saying it. And I can even make it more generic to better support my point, if you don&#8217;t mind, &#8220;there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of destiny to prop up their self-esteem.&#8221; The same stuff that makes the chairman of GE great and successful is the stuff that makes up the chairman of WWF as well.</p><p>My concern &#8212; and the reason I wrote the piece &#8212; is that the chairman of GE doesn&#8217;t suffer from the &#8220;noble aim&#8221; aspect, which might make the avarice and work ethic and profit motive more authentic and honest.</p><p>And is that better than a false sense of altruism?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 9:32 AM</p><p>Yes, the avarice and work ethic may be honest and authentic, but avarice is a product of disappointment toward selfless service. Avarice and profit are easy. They come naturally, but so does the violence instinct. It is the mark of a civilized human to control such instincts.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world composed of either selfless service or &#8220;avarice and work ethic and profit motive&#8221;, which would you prefer?</p><p>Posted by: Bryan | April 12, 2005 9:49 AM</p><p>Chris, Dickens had the same reservations as you about what he termed Telescopic Philanthropy. You&#8217;re not alone!</p><p>Posted by: Mike | April 12, 2005 10:38 AM</p><p>In their purest form, I would choose service. I have a dear friend who is Mormon and she told me that service is the most important thing to the LDS. But when it comes to service, nobody is a professional and the service is inclusive of the family.</p><p>I like that. That makes sense to me.</p><p>I am also not saying that there is anything wrong with an obsessive workaholic president of Save the Whales.</p><p>I mean, there needs to be sacrifice in life and pain in order to grow and evolve.</p><p>But when a child is involved &#8212; when a family is being made &#8212; then things indeed should change.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world in which you would have to choose between saving all the whales and saving one child, which would you choose?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:05 AM</p><p>With regards to Telescopic Philanthropy, I see the same thing with Mr. Margaret Thatcher. The thing is, with spouses, there is a certain level of conscious or unconscious choice in the matter.</p><p>With children, there is no choice in the matter. Although the subsumed spouse might become toxic and bitter &#8212; or not &#8212; at the loss of self to the shining qualities of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, there is still no less of a choice, really, in the matter.</p><p>It boils down to, if you&#8217;re unhappy, leave.</p><p>But choosing to have children is an entirely different matter.</p><p>Having children can either be the most generous or the most selfish act in the entire world.</p><p>An additional note is that psychologically-speaking, the same people who end up in a role such as Mrs Jellyby&#8217;s or Mrs Thatcher&#8217;s tend also to have narcissistic qualities.</p><p>And narcissists are the most compelling mates and the most incapable of being partners and parents. Funny how that works.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:16 AM</p><p>Without reading each entry and assimilating them all to produce a cogent statement (because I&#8217;m busy at work), let me make the following observations and then close with the greatest quote ever spoken.</p><p>1) There are causes noble enough that you should sacrifice your children. Chief among them is service to your nation in a time where its existence is threatened. As Abraham Lincoln once said to women grieving the loss of their children during the civil war,</p><p>&#8220;I cannot refrain from tendering to you the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly father may assuage the anguish of your bereavements and leave you only the cherished memories of the loved and the lost and the solemn pride that must be yours to have made so costly a sacrifice upon the alter of freedom.&#8221;</p><p>2) Nobody (worth hearing) is suggesting that saving the whales is more important, or equally important, to tending to our social fabric. What they are saying, if you listen with a carefully bent ear, is that through fostering care for things other than ourselves we create a society that by virtue of its interest in things besides itself, takes good care of itself. Without a strong social network, these other less paramount causes could garner no attention.</p><p>&#8220;It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.&#8221;</p><p>Theodore Roosevelt (26th U.S. president (1901-09), 1858-1919)</p><p>Posted by: Justin | April 12, 2005 12:44 PM</p><p>could we change &#8220;whales&#8221; to &#8220;the unborn&#8221;?</p><p>Posted by: max solon | April 12, 2005 12:48 PM</p><p>I fully agree with you, but isn&#8217;t that called duty? And isn&#8217;t that the choice of the child? The child is not being sacrificed for the parent but rather the child is sacrificing his own life. That soldier is a whale. That soldier is sacrificing his life for his spouse, his children, his family, his friends, his community, and his country.</p><p>Entirely different, in my opinion, but important none-the-less.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 3:56 PM</p><p>Yea. I see the problem.</p><p>We should take control of our families and sort out all our family problems.</p><p>What about taking them to the ocean? We could all look for the whales together!</p><p>No, waste of time. What if we don&#8217;t sort out our problems when we&#8217;re there? We might all get lost in some sadly transient awe at the beauty of the whales &#8211; or probably just the idea of whales. For precious moments we&#8217;d forget the problems we went there to sort.<br
/> My family is not weak!<br
/> And who&#8217;s driving?</p><p>And if all the whales are gone anyway because of whalers, or depleted fish stocks from crazy fishing, or deafening submarine engines interfering in their songs, we&#8217;re only going to get frustrated at humanity&#8217;s impotence in the face of these vital industries.<br
/> I can do without that.<br
/> And they have no rhythm as far as I can tell.</p><p>Let&#8217;s relax with the tv newstoons and a healthy tuna salad, and save up the money from work for a good holiday one day. Disney? Hope we don&#8217;t use it all up on therapy first.<br
/> Or they grow up.</p><p>Forget the whales. You only live once.</p><p>Posted by: Hugh Whiting | April 12, 2005 9:48 PM</p><p>I think you&#8217;ve got your focus slightly wrong here, because you&#8217;re centering on &#8220;activists&#8221; when you should be thinking of all parents.</p><p>I know several handfuls of people who were scared and abandoned children, and the few who were raised by nannies were the lucky ones. Some of those abandoned children had parents at home, but they were so involved in business that they never saw their kids. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;activism,&#8221; it&#8217;s about abandoning your family for anything, and we shouldn&#8217;t confuse the two.</p><p>All the actual activists I&#8217;ve known share their activism with their families (I used to work for the Sierra Club, so I&#8217;ve known a few).</p><p>P.S., and this is a note for everybody, because this is the third time I&#8217;ve seen the error today: IT&#8217;S SPELLED &#8220;GANDHI.&#8221; G. A. N. D. H. I.</p><p>Posted by: Rika Youngblood | April 12, 2005 10:28 PM</p><p>i disagree with your assessment that the whales can fend for themselves .. they have no chance at all when their home is polluted, their food depleted, and their migration paths are congested with oil tankers .. what&#8217;s worst, we have the power to wipe out the planet (not just a single species) with just a push of the button (in 2002, we were just seven minutes away from midnight on the doomsday clock).</p><p>i have yet to run into children of the green movement who &#8220;are a mess&#8221;. on the contrary, having attended an ultra-liberal college of a progressive town [santa cruz], i have met and befriended many of these second-generation hippies who continue to uphold the various -ISMs (re: liberalism, idealism, etc) and values of their parents. what a wonderful gifts these hippies of yesteryears have given to their children.</p><p>this legacy echoes the teachings of the wisdom keepers of the mohawk nation, who teach their people to respect the land, and that &#8220;&#8230; everything they do affects the Seventh Generation and we must think of the unborn faces looking up from beneath Mother Earth&#8221;.</p><p>though my parents were not part of the green movement, i do believe in it .. and i will save the whales for the both of us.</p><p>Posted by: nam lamore | April 13, 2005 4:20 PM</p><p>Hugh, the entire time I read your comment I thought of the dolphins from Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy! &#8212; thanks for that. But I have to tell you that I don&#8217;t really give a rat&#8217;s twat what you get up to.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 13, 2005 8:23 PM</p><p>What absolute twaddle.</p><p>Where is your evidence to back up the existence of these orphans of ecology? Don&#8217;t you think that there are people that put work before their family in all walks of life?</p><p>You&#8217;re being deliberately provocative. Get a life. Spend some time with your own family and friends instead of wasting your time attempting to bait people on the internet for your own pathetic amusement.</p><p>Posted by: Vilnius Terence | April 14, 2005 10:59 AM</p><p>I think you are bang out of order the people that save the whales are good people and are doing good. I am sure 9 out of ten would not neglected there families because of it and the ones that do are yes in the wrong when I was a little girl saving the whales was my dream<br
/> whales are mammals just like we are they are getting killed by there own species which is not right you are saying we should be stopping the robberies and the murders but by killing the whales you are doing the same to them you are murdering them and robbing them of a family something’s need looking after and at least there are SOME descent people out there that will do it not everyone sees life in the same way you do. if you had a pet dog for example and someone was trying to kill it you would do everything you could to save it because it is part of the family some people see whales in that way. How would you feel if you were just sitting at home with your family and someone shot a harpoon at you? Well that’s what it is like for them.<br
/> just imagine(I don’t no if you have kids) that you were sitting at home with your kids and someone captured you or killed you just think about what it would do to your kids but at least they would have other family or they would have the opinion of foster care or adoption. but those poor whales probably don’t have help like that they would be all alone and maybe too young to know how to survive on their own so I think in the future instead of being lost in your own little world and think its the saving the whales that is doing it think again because they need as much help as we do. And if you are so bovered about the community I hope you are out there doing something for it. Infact why don’t you go out there and do something now instead of wasting your time writing this web site moaning about there whale savers and do something for the community yours sincerely jess</p><p>Posted by: jess | May 13, 2005 9:31 AM</p><p>this is sick we can save ourslevs we have a voice of our own but the whales dont so if they cant speak to stick up for themslves who will? because it is clear u wont. i would and that is a fact u mybe should listen because it is your people that is causing the problem with the whales.</p><p>Posted by: stephanie | May 23, 2005 4:41 AM</p><p>If the vast majority of people who aren&#8217;t inclined towards saving the whales and such, were instead spending their free time trying to truly take care of their families, spouses &amp; communities I might see validity to your argument&#8230;as it is this post just looks like liberal-baiting to me.</p><p>Whatever. You guys are right. We suck. Money is king. Whatever.</p><p>Posted by: Cary | June 21, 2005 2:53 PM</p><p>You can always catch a liberal if you use a whale as bait!</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 21, 2005 4:44 PM</p><p>what a stupid article.</p><p>Posted by: Urb | June 21, 2005 9:05 PM</p><p>Your argument is astonishing to me. If you can honestly re-read it two times and not see the mile-wide holes in your reasoning you might need to take some time to think things over. Really.</p><p>Suffice to say that if this is the way you feel then I&#8217;m thinking that you have some learning to do about what a relationship is, what a marriage is and what raising a child is. Let&#8217;s set your gloss on activism == children raised by nannies aside. That is a deep issue with a whole spectra of situations that you are lumping into the most negative terminus.</p><p>You don&#8217;t raise a child by commiting yourself to voluntary servitude to him or her &#8212; nor do you &#8216;make a family&#8217; by staying home and staring at them 24/7. Strong people with strong convictions raise children that share these traits. Strong marriages are not made by two people who spend all their time on each other. The best thing you can do for a child is to inspire her by setting an example of what a person can do in this world.</p><p>To hold the opinions that you express within the context of your personal mores is one thing, but to insult *activism* at large and to call people who give a damn and are doing somehting about it bad parents bullshit on stilts.</p><p>Posted by: anon | June 22, 2005 12:09 PM</p><p>You have the honor of missing my point entirely. I think you might be suffering from some sort of deep-seated guilt.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 22, 2005 1:29 PM</p><p>we as humans have a responsibilty to care for all living creatures of this earth as they all have a right to live and we are the ones who have destroyed their homes and species. So it is a responsibility of ours to try protect those species in danger because of the selfish act of others.</p><p>Posted by: Amy | July 9, 2005 1:47 AM</p><p>you obviously is idiot, u must be someone who cares only about urself. please open u eyes and see what people like u are doing to animals. IDIOT</p><p>Posted by: lin jia yi | July 11, 2005 8:13 AM</p><p>first of all Mr.Abraham does make a point, if your life isn&#8217;t well put together you shouldn&#8217;t particate in any other extra curricular activities. However,he fails to mention other activities people particate in that aren&#8217;t for the environment,anmails/endangered species,or other worthwhile cause that never the less can disrrupt homes,childhoods,&amp; break families such as:homeless, needy, abuse, disabiled, &amp; feed the children. but these aren&#8217;t mentioned, why . . .?</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:14 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham I must say you speak of neglected children,&amp; husbands. can you prove anything you say? And if you can tell us how many people are neglected because of their parents jobs, hobbies, and everyday life who aren&#8217;t rooted in some cause and are just living in a regular town, would you? There are problems in life &amp; marriage due to nothing but their own faults, to not think so &amp; live in a perfect world is denial.I suggest you open your eyes.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:35 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham,I respect other people&#8217;s opinions.You do not.That I refuse to respect,the lives of others &amp; how the are lived are not yours to dictate to.You probley have a nice apt. in a upscale N.Y. neighborhood. Must be nice. You&#8217;ve had everything handed to you in a silver spoon. I don&#8217;t discriminate agianst the rich even though i am not. But for the poor who live in the wild or country nature is greatly loved,respected,&amp;cared for.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:49 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, you must watch your views &amp; how you express them because you can offend many people,I was very offended by your statements and took it personally.It hurt,and I thought of all the others you&#8217;ve hurt by this. I suggest you apologize to the envirnmental community.I don&#8217;t apphreciate your calling Dr.King a &#8220;philanderer saint&#8221; and suggest you appologize to the black community as well.One day you may wake up and see how precious our world is.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:01 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, this is my last post.I know your thinking &#8220;thank god&#8221;. But in short i will speak a quote of love ,honesty,&amp; truth. &#8221; The wonderous world under sea &amp; land, in the big scheme of things one life may seem insugnifficant but it&#8217;s the greatest gift we know and we cannot let this world of light, love ,and beauty perish.&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:09 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A CRAZY, CRAZY TOOL.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:20 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A FREAKY FREAKY FREAK.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:21 PM</p><p>My ex long ago abandoned our son for native american/worker/prison issues. The worst part is my 18-yr-old son who was dragged to the W.T.O. when he was 13(although it makes for a good story to say he&#8217;s been teargassed)-my son only sees the hypocrisy in the hardcore activists&#8211;thinking of them as angry and sad without any stability or truth.</p><p>Posted by: christina | July 12, 2005 7:19 PM</p><p>Your thoughts are disturbing because if you cannot enjoy the utter beauty we have in our world you are really disturbed. This page is sick and unfortunatly I visited this sight BLAH&#8230;.SAVE THE WHALES</p><p>Posted by: Crystal | July 12, 2005 8:22 PM</p><p>Save the Earth, KILL YER SELF!!!!</p><p>Posted by: Martin Jones | July 26, 2005 4:17 PM</p><p>love animals keep them safe. would if u were a whale oh yeah lets just 4get u. u r nothing.GOD put thing here 4 a reson life is a leason. u will get whats coming.SAVE WHALES,CARE 4 THEM.</p><p>Posted by: ryah | July 26, 2005 8:59 PM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur article</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 5:32 AM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur artical</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 9:50 AM</p><p>Sorry I don&#8217;t think like you At ALL!!!</p><p>Posted by: Bobbie | August 1, 2005 3:48 AM</p><p>You are really twisted aren&#8217;t you. so you think we should focus on other things no we shouldn&#8217;t im 13 and i am trying to save the animals from people like you. Sick people who are self centered and don&#8217;t care for others. You need to get your head out of your *** and open your eyes. You wouldn&#8217;t like for someone to kill you without question and make lipstick or shampoo out of you would you??? Animals that live in the water are being killed for your convience so you can have shampoo. i don&#8217;t think so buddy. I bet you go out there and kill them so you can be satified. Well you know what we&#8217;ll stop people like you from hurting the animals we love. Without or with out your help. So when all the animals are gone we&#8217;ll start making shampoo and lipstick out of people like you so you know what it fells like to be them. So you know how much pain people put tem through. Woould you like a harpoon explosive shot into your brain and blow up and kill you then hit you repeatedly with an axe. So you need to get your head out of your***</p><p>Posted by: Cayla Rene | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>You are really crule huh? dude you have to save the whales. they are killing the whales just so they can make soap to rub all over your body .well i am 13 and i am trying to save the whales . so people like yuo dont get to kill them. you are really wrong and dont care one bit about the animals under the sea. well you should.whales , orcas , sharks and other mammals die just to make new and stupid improved products. you are a *** and you need to care about the animals they have dont nothing to you and you want to kill them well dont. cause me and my friends cayla will beat your ***<br
/> you need to care. well would you want to die just to make lipstick and shampoo.</p><p>write back and i will tell you more abourt the animals you need to car eabout what they do for you there are only a hundred remaining in the world .soon there will be no more and then it will make you happy huh well you need to get your head out of the gutter . when all the animals are gone what are u gonna do we are gonna blame you!!!!!!!!!</p><p>Posted by: ALexa RAe | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>you might think that whales dont matter but your wrong. ya you need to take care of your family but we also need to save are world. all of you that sont think that the whales arent important than you SUCK.</p><p>Posted by: chalsea | February 15, 2007 6:44 PM</p><p>What are you talking about&gt; Yes its important to have a stable life at home for your family and children, but if the enviroment itself isn&#8217;t saved by these noble people an other people around the world then that home you are trying to stabilze and love will not exists and the ones you love will suffer, because people like you thought it was unimportant to save the whales!!! So if we dont start repairing our enviroment now we will end up suffering for it later on!!! So wake up and save the Whales ASSHOLE</p><p>Posted by: Someone | February 20, 2007 8:53 PM</p><p>Dont blame the whales or conservationists for human frailities and faults.</p><p>I have a great husband and marriage, great kids with whom i spend alot of my tme, I also support Whale conservation with time and money i have availiable. Get a grip!! Its not the Whales fault thatthey are being slaughtered&#8230; It is HUMAN GREED and arrogance. It is not the whales fault the people lose sight of everything but their cause&#8230;.It is HUMAN STUPIDITY and again arrogance. Dont blame the whales and their plight for human faults after all it happens with more than just save the whales.</p><p>Miri Furlong<br
/> Graphic Artist<br
/> design@ethnic-aotearoa.co.nz<br
/> www.ethnic-aotearoa.co.nz</p><p>Posted by: Miri Furlong | February 21, 2007 2:21 AM</p><p>you are so self centered!! how would you feel if some body wanted to kill you!!!! don&#8217;t even try to say you wouldn&#8217;t care!! I&#8217;m elizabeth christian and i think everyone should help save the whales!!! LOSER!! FREAK!! WEIRDO!!</p><p>Posted by: Elizabeth Christian | February 28, 2007 1:59 PM</p><p>you are the biggest idiot on the face of the earth!!! you don&#8217;t understand the value of life its self!!! tou are so retarted!!!!!!!</p><p>YOU IDIOT!!</p><p>Posted by: Elizabeth | February 28, 2007 2:02 PM</p><p>YOU ARE SO RETARDED!! hope you choke on a piece of beef jerky!!</p><p>Posted by: elizabeth | February 28, 2007 2:20 PM</p><p>your stupid!!!<br
/> dont say dont save the whales because you need to save yourself first. i love whales and im trying t save whales and im only 17 i have loving parents who are also trying to save whales and were not disfunctional or falling apart or any thing you said were just fine and to generalize that all people who try and save our planet are neglecting their families is BULL. your just pissed that you cant save the world and you probably cant fix your own family.</p><p>Posted by: Zayna | May 18, 2007 8:00 PM</p><p>You are very stupid. No more comments.</p><p>Posted by: Gabriel | May 28, 2007 9:07 AM</p><p>I may well be stupid, but I am not alone. Thanks for joining me.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | May 28, 2007 12:22 PM</p><p>SAVE THE WORLD! SAVE THE WHALES!</p><p>Posted by: Mauricio J. Solórzano | June 6, 2007 12:27 PM</p><p>God Agrees with Chris Abraham That We Should not Save the Whales (well, at least Paul does&#8230; but then, he&#8217;s a rabid homophobe and a chauvinist pig, so&#8230;)</p><p>In any case, it&#8217;s in the scriptures, so it&#8217;s right.</p><p>1 Timothy 3</p><p>This saying is trustworthy: &#8220;If anyone aspires to be a leader of his community, he desires a noble work.&#8221; Such a leader, therefore, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, self-controlled, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an able teacher, not addicted to wine, not a bully but gentle, not quarrelsome, not greedy; one who manages his own household competently, having his children under control with all dignity. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of God&#8217;s house?) He must not be a new convert, or he might become conceited and fall into the condemnation of the Devil. Furthermore, he must have a good reputation among outsiders, so that he does not fall into disgrace and the Devil&#8217;s trap.</p><p>Posted by: Mark Harrison | August 13, 2007 7:13 AM</p><p>I am surely and indeed a Godly man. Fuck the whales.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | August 14, 2007 11:19 PM</p><p>i&#8217;m not sure of what your point is?! whats wrong with trying to save the whales, or any animal for that matter? why are you saying that only whales shouldn&#8217;t be saved? why not all other endangered species? i think you are wrong as i know many do, but i do not see your selfish view as to be right, yes you can look after your family or whatever your trying to say, but why not doing things for other people or animals other than yourself? please enlighten me with your selfish attitude to life</p><p>Posted by: Save The Whales | August 17, 2007 1:06 PM</p><div
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I hate SNS sites like boompa.com – a site devoted to your favorite cars – because I am not JUST a car guy.</p><p>I am a car guy for sure but I am also interested in rowing, in biking, in Thomas Pynchon, and in talk radio – Boompa might be successful in the short term, but in the long-term, the real power would come from creating a open, creative, resource-rich platform/campus/university/high school and maybe create a school of engineering, a liberal arts school, a law school, a dining hall, and so forth, but then allow the SNS to find itself.</p><p>To allow the SNS and its members to find their own voice, their own interests, and their own passions – which may well be very different from what is first assumed by the creator. Google gets this, though not yet within the construct of the SNS’s.  What Google did do successfully was to buy USENET – the original newsgroups – and then build an superstructure on top of that – make it modern, sustainable, durable, and more readable.</p><p>Google returned USENET to relevance in a world that considered newsgroups and IRC to be dead or dying. Each and every one of communities on USENET is amazingly vertical, but they could all back up and back out to the larger USENET community – to the equivalent of the “welcome new students??? meetings and gatherings colleges offer to entering Freshmen.</p><p>Communities that are too vertical tend to shoe horn the “general topics??? conversations into hidden “off topic??? eddies. That is just the opposite of what should be done.  The conversation should be general, cross-pollinating, and then move, after a conversation starts, into another room.</p><p>Start with an amazing platform, collect users, listen and watch them to see how they’re playing with the software application objects, widgets, and tools (are they playing with the toy or the box?), and then build for the users base, withholding judgment.  Digg is a case study for this: start small, grow organically, and allow your members to find themselves.</p><p>The developers of Digg realized that after initial vertical growth based on the general members of Slashdot (techie, geeky, teens, boys), digg would suffer from the same sort of vulnerabilities that Slashdot suffered when Slashdot didn’t evolve and grow and broaden itself.</p><p>People love talking about Linux, but when happens when the Dow drops or the elections come? Where will the conversation happen? Where is the “kitchen??? at the party where every eventually goes to just talk about general interest stuff? Unless there are opportunities to express and share so-called “off-topic??? conversation right there, within the community in which members are already committed, with members to whom they’re already committed, then they are bound to go elsewhere.</p><p>Starting small and allowing the community to design itself is much different than starting big and losing one’s focus.  Other mistakes happen when community builders make assumptions as to what participants, members, and lurkers want. Another mistake is putting a wall up around the community so that non-members cannot get a full feeling for the community from without.</p><p>The best SNS’s, virtual worlds, and online communities are honeypots. By honeypot, I am not suggesting, “a server that is configured to detect an intruder by mirroring a real production system. It appears as an ordinary server doing work, but all the data and transactions are phony. Located either in or outside the firewall, the honeypot is used to learn about an intruder&#8217;s techniques as well as determine vulnerabilities in the real system.&#8221; Although I am, sort of.  The best SNS needs to be appealing, attractive, sweet, and compelling. Community-builders and SNS ASP developers need to be willing learn about member techniques, interests, processes, and needs, as well as determine “vulnerabilities&#8221; in the SNS platform that may repel, turn off, or limit the evolution and growth of the community.</p><p>To channel Chauncey Gardener for a second, one must do whatever one must to make sure that the earth in the garden is moist and well fed, one must seed well and completely, one must keep the garden in sun and water, one must encourage the garden to grow as it will for only in its growth will the garden be successful, and then, after rigorous growth, pruning and weeding must be done, only in order to allow the garden to be healthy, not to turn the garden into topiary. Okay, I am done.</p><p>Digg allows all of these things. Digg is perfectly useful and compelling even as an alien, but it is way more fun and interesting when you’re a citizen, that’s for sure. An SNS community needs to be as attractive as possible because exclusivity is no longer essential or even valuable.  What is valuable is “useful,??? “interesting,??? and “authentic.??? They also have to have community buy-in and the best enjoy  a certain fanatical devotion.  Just like the best Universities and Colleges.</p><p>And Digg allowed its member to tell it when it was time to evolve past tech and geek news. Digg did not limit its scope or define itself too tightly with being “gear for geeks??? or “news for nerds.??? That would have ultimately been the death of Digg.</p><p>What the best Universities (such as Yale) understand is that it is not the student who is blessed and honored by being accepted by a top college (Yale College) but rather it is the college that should be blessed and honored (and should be grateful) that such a quality student is accepting its offers and actually attending – choosing – their particular school: Yale instead of Princeton, Brown, Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, Dartmouth, Stanford, Columbia, Berkeley, etc…</p><p>Harvard, too, is aware that although in the short-term Harvard makes the Harvard Man, over the long term, it is Harvard Men who made Harvard and continue to make Harvard. “Who have you graduated recently???? Unless the quality and character of its students and alumni remain top-drawer, Harvard is not guaranteed its position as “top three??? in USA Today alongside Princeton and Yale. No matter how grand its endowment.</p><p>So, Harvard and Yale spoil their students rotten! My friends who attended Harvard or Yale college swoon over those 4 years like I swoon over my first love.</p><p>Likewise, SNS’s, virtual worlds, and virtual communities need to realize that at any one point, their brand is only as good as the collective that is manifest in the users, the members, the lurkers, the stewards, and the alumni of the property.</p><p>This isn’t only true in SNS’s. The same thing can be said of the most successful message boards and online communities.  The most important distinction, I think, is that all of these &#8220;rooms&#8221; and all of these &#8220;clubs&#8221; and all of these spaces where (and are) defined and created by the communities themselves. Sui generis. And this sort of ownership – “for us by us,??? as the slogan goes over as Howard Rheingold’s Brainstorms community – should never be underestimated.</p><p>The Well has Howard Rheingold as a member and alumnus, for example, and the credibility of all that he has made and done; over time, more and more virtual communities, virtual worlds, and SNS will be known for their members as well: who studies, who studied, and who wants to join.</p><p>“What’s in it for me??? (WIIFM) and the concept of pride of ownership are important – essential – ingredients of a sustainable, deep, thriving, and healthy community. The success of MySpace and of Facebook is that the verticals are not (were not) defined for them by their grand architects – they are self-creating, self-forming, and also self-destructing. They form, reform, mutate and disperse after they hit a limit of general conversation and then either break off and reform into an &#8220;interest group&#8221; or &#8220;club&#8221; or they self-check and work to &#8220;get back on topic.&#8221;</p><p>SNS’s and communities in general tend to be formed in one of two ways: like Paris or like London. Intelligence Design (architecture) or Emergent Design.  The later never looks very beautiful or the way people – or the creators, investors, and architects – expect (or want) it to look, because investors and designers tend to not be able to control it – and when they do try to impost order, often in a heavy-handed way, they also tend to scare off all of their members, too.</p><p>This organic revolution has proven its success online time and time again.  The Internet does not respond (well or at all) to command and control.  The smartest Web 2.0 platforms allow the &#8220;masses of asses&#8221; (yes, the customer; yes, us) to define the platform and the experience – their own and collective environment and experience.</p><p>MySpace does this amazingly well and so does Facebook.  Until recently, Friendster suffered from a vision and used command and control tactics to try to coerce its users that “it didn’t really want to do things that way??? and Friendster members abandoned in droves to platforms and experiences not so monitored by “mom and dad.???</p><p>A command and control grand vision doesn&#8217;t work when you develop an environment that needs to be truly both attractive and compelling much more than it needs to be informational or instructional.  An SNS needs to be attractive, diversional, compelling, amusing, and entertaining &#8211;  never limiting.</p><p>My analogy of college and high school never mentioned classrooms or classes for training or learning. People do enough of that at school and at work. An SNS needs to give its users a university campus without any expectations or concepts of dropping out, getting judged, doing homework, or being held accountable for anything.</p><p>A good SNS should be all late-night wine-influenced discussions of Descartes and Plato and the summer afternoons on the quad and the time playing Xbox with your roommates.</p><p>When I go onto my long-term online communities, the Well, The Meta Network, USENET, and Brainstorms, there are many very deep and very vertical communities, discussing things as frivolous as fashion and video games and as deep as how to survive cancer, how to get a post doc grant, and very deep discussions on &#8220;spirit,&#8221; &#8220;chaos theory,&#8221; and &#8220;world politics.&#8221;</p><p>What makes this amazing and sustainable is that there are an infinite number of ways to get along, to move into a space of intense conversation, and then to pull back into common areas, just to see who&#8217;s around.  In a university setting, this could be the dining hall, the quad, the commons, etc.  These spaces are very important.</p><p>If you think about all of this in terms of evolution, then we can think about the way things evolve in the most perverse ways when isolated from others of its kinds. So, if there are impervious walls – gaps or voids, mountains or ridges – between these vertical markets, SNS’s, and communities, then there may be an initial success, but there can also be a terrible volatility.  One plague or drought can decimate a population completely.</p><p>Having a commons allows members and visitors to have a place to meet new people, have new experiences, and learn of new clubs, new opportunities, and new places &#8211; inbreeding versus crossbreeding. Ultimately, a diversity of visitors helps build a more resilient, invested, and self-identifing community. They will become “students for life??? at best and proud alums at worst.  They will carry the brand awareness, even if their lives become too busy to participate any more.</p><p>They will become life long brand ambassadors for your community. Proud alumni.</p><p>And, in terms of &#8220;viral marketing,&#8221; it is also important when it comes to a member of an SNS &#8220;inviting his friends&#8221; – not all of my friends have the same vertical interests that I do&#8230; They could have very different interests – but as I explore the &#8220;commons&#8221; of an SNS, I can note that there are things happening online that &#8220;friend x&#8221; and &#8220;friend y&#8221; would love, and that would be my incentive to invite them on board.</p><p>Boompa?  I am the only person I know in my entire community – that is not true, my buddy has an Audi S4 – who is into cars.  My buddy is an Audi driver and I am a BMW driver.  Does that mean we&#8217;re both drivers?  Does that mean we love cars or our particular car?  Do we cross over on performance sedans?  On German cars?  On luxury cars?</p><p>You have to offer the tools to allow the market to choose for itself, otherwise, you might never find out that the SNS needs all three, or none at all.</p><p>A &#8220;Modularized SNS&#8221; should be neutral like a university (unlike MySpace, which is pretty pre-defined as to what the demographic is), and there are lots of &#8220;vertical niche SNS&#8217;s&#8221; (e.g. car enthusiasts, gourmet cooking, travel, Rolex fans, Republican politicos, etc.) That way, everyone can form a SNS experience that actually fits them by modularly assembling the groups of people who have similar interests, (not just friends-in-common!)</p><div
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/04/11/dont-save-the-whales/" rel="nofollow">Don&#8217;t Save the Whales</a></strong><strong>:</strong></p><blockquote><p>Understandable sentiment, and an easy crutch for our own apathy, but life is not so black and white.</p><p>To continue with a racial theme and abuse an overused metaphor, would you have had Dr. King abandon his quest for civil rights in favor of couples therapy?</p><p>Granted, whales and trees are not sentient beings like the African Americans who were fire-hosed in Selma, but it&#8217;s naieve to write off noble ambitions because one&#8217;s self is not already enlightened.</p><p>In many of the great religious traditions service is actually means to personal salvation. Through serving others, we can learn to help ourselves and our families.It is a shame that such impulses are not instinctual (hence the reason why airlines have to remind to you put on your oxygen mask before assisting your neighbor), but we are contradictory beings.</p><p>Accept the ambiguity and respect both service to others and our quests for personal virtue. They go hand in hand.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:32 AM</p><p>There is no apathy in my life. And there are also many distractions. I have spent years dancing with dolphins and whales as a SCUBA diver and know them more than many and for this I am grateful.</p><p>What is more noble than the ambition of saving oneself?</p><p>Doctor King was a whale, if you will. He was saving himself, his family, and his community. I am surprised that you overlooked that.</p><p>So, maybe I am not so naive.</p><p>And the most valuable lessons are in fact gleaned from serving others, but try to keep it local. As in your spouse, your children, your parents, your family, your friends, your community. If you have energy left over, then spend it along the same vein.</p><p>The nature of the world is not really as it seems. Try to only serve others you can touch, see, feel, help, interact with, and live with.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 10:47 AM</p><p>Dr. King was a philanderer saint.</p><p>Beethoven was an abusive genius.Ghandi&#8230;well, he was all good.</p><p>The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.</p><p>I know you&#8217;re neither naieve nor apathetic, so don&#8217;t come off like it by saying, &#8220;saving pagan babies, the rain forest, the whales, or the trees is pure distraction from the things that matter most in this life which is saving yourself, protecting and loving your children, your spouse, your parents, your family, and your community.&#8221;</p><p>If people don&#8217;t save the trees there will be no more familes to save.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 10:57 AM</p><p>As for one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, it makes more than more sense to me now that Roman Catholic priests are celibate. There are fewer distractions.</p><p>I am not saying that one should not perform one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work. But not to the harm of what really matters.</p><p>And I am not talking about one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work, nor am I talking about destiny. What I am saying is that no matter how noble one&#8217;s life&#8217;s work may seem and no matter how important one&#8217;s destiny is, it is not remotely as important as serving your spouse, your children, your family, and your community.</p><p>There is nothing as modest, as honest, as life-affirming, and life-changing as that.</p><p>There is more harm done by a man who has a destiny, a noble aim, a a life&#8217;s work than anything else.</p><p>You mentioned Dr. King, Beethoven, and Ghandi.</p><p>I will mention some other men who have had life&#8217;s work and noble aims who lost site of themselves, their children, their family, and their community:</p><p>Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong.</p><p>All men who didn&#8217;t put their &#8220;life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers.&#8221;</p><p>To take it one step further, these men, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Hideki Tojo, Kim Il-Sung, Chiang Kai-Shek, Moammar Al Qadhafi, Pol Pot, Francisco Franco, and Mao Zedong, might have turned out differently if their mom, dad, family, and friends where better parents to them.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 11:34 AM</p><p>cop out.</p><p>Posted by: David Gelles | April 11, 2005 11:56 AM</p><p>There are many highly-gifted people in the world who have been treated like the young Gautama.</p><p>They are coddled, protected, and spoiled so that they may be allowed to focus on their destiny.</p><p>They distiny is as likely to be that of a surgeon, a scientist, a lawyer, a competitive skater, an athelete, a beauty queen, a pianist, a painter, a poet, or a priest as it is the King of the Whales.</p><p>There needs to be balance in all things. And what is the saddest part of this entire conversations is that the same man who said, &#8220;The point is that we can&#8217;t put our life&#8217;s work on hold to get in the zen of changing diapers&#8221; is also the man who spent months living in India.</p><p>I have never focused this on not saving the whales or not saving the forests but rather how much easier it is to forgive the distraction from the truth if that distraction is in fact popular or noble.</p><p>It&#8217;s neither nuclear family and Wall $treet, nor domestic abuse and whales.</p><p>There are countless great parents who are plenty involved with money, and plenty of awful parents who do invaluable work for their communities but are awful husbands and wives, who are awful parents to their children, and who are able to rationalize their entire failure because they have done some things that really don&#8217;t matter too much at the end of life really anyway.</p><p>There is another black and white annoyance: that money equals bad and activism equals good.</p><p>Sometimes entropy isn&#8217;t death. very often, it isn&#8217;t. Sometimes to struggle so hard for something that is so far removed and so not part of one&#8217;s life is like struggling in quicksand.</p><p>Not only is it a waste of energy, but the unintended consequence &#8212; sinking faster and being alienated from a helping hand &#8212; is worse than anything you could ever imagine.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 11, 2005 1:16 PM</p><p>there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of altruism to prop up their self-esteem, which suffers from things like failing to take care of their families or failing to succeed in relationships. it&#8217;s a shame, really.</p><p>Posted by: sam | April 12, 2005 8:30 AM</p><p>Sam, that&#8217;s the perfect way of saying it. And I can even make it more generic to better support my point, if you don&#8217;t mind, &#8220;there will always be that group of people bordering on lunacy who are dependent on a false sense of destiny to prop up their self-esteem.&#8221; The same stuff that makes the chairman of GE great and successful is the stuff that makes up the chairman of WWF as well.</p><p>My concern &#8212; and the reason I wrote the piece &#8212; is that the chairman of GE doesn&#8217;t suffer from the &#8220;noble aim&#8221; aspect, which might make the avarice and work ethic and profit motive more authentic and honest.</p><p>And is that better than a false sense of altruism?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 9:32 AM</p><p>Yes, the avarice and work ethic may be honest and authentic, but avarice is a product of disappointment toward selfless service. Avarice and profit are easy. They come naturally, but so does the violence instinct. It is the mark of a civilized human to control such instincts.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world composed of either selfless service or &#8220;avarice and work ethic and profit motive&#8221;, which would you prefer?</p><p>Posted by: Bryan | April 12, 2005 9:49 AM</p><p>Chris, Dickens had the same reservations as you about what he termed Telescopic Philanthropy. You&#8217;re not alone!</p><p>Posted by: Mike | April 12, 2005 10:38 AM</p><p>In their purest form, I would choose service. I have a dear friend who is Mormon and she told me that service is the most important thing to the LDS. But when it comes to service, nobody is a professional and the service is inclusive of the family.</p><p>I like that. That makes sense to me.</p><p>I am also not saying that there is anything wrong with an obsessive workaholic president of Save the Whales.</p><p>I mean, there needs to be sacrifice in life and pain in order to grow and evolve.</p><p>But when a child is involved &#8212; when a family is being made &#8212; then things indeed should change.</p><p>Take each point in this discussion to the extreme. If tomorrow you woke up and walked outside to a world in which you would have to choose between saving all the whales and saving one child, which would you choose?</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:05 AM</p><p>With regards to Telescopic Philanthropy, I see the same thing with Mr. Margaret Thatcher. The thing is, with spouses, there is a certain level of conscious or unconscious choice in the matter.</p><p>With children, there is no choice in the matter. Although the subsumed spouse might become toxic and bitter &#8212; or not &#8212; at the loss of self to the shining qualities of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, there is still no less of a choice, really, in the matter.</p><p>It boils down to, if you&#8217;re unhappy, leave.</p><p>But choosing to have children is an entirely different matter.</p><p>Having children can either be the most generous or the most selfish act in the entire world.</p><p>An additional note is that psychologically-speaking, the same people who end up in a role such as Mrs Jellyby&#8217;s or Mrs Thatcher&#8217;s tend also to have narcissistic qualities.</p><p>And narcissists are the most compelling mates and the most incapable of being partners and parents. Funny how that works.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 11:16 AM</p><p>Without reading each entry and assimilating them all to produce a cogent statement (because I&#8217;m busy at work), let me make the following observations and then close with the greatest quote ever spoken.</p><p>1) There are causes noble enough that you should sacrifice your children. Chief among them is service to your nation in a time where its existence is threatened. As Abraham Lincoln once said to women grieving the loss of their children during the civil war,</p><p>&#8220;I cannot refrain from tendering to you the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our heavenly father may assuage the anguish of your bereavements and leave you only the cherished memories of the loved and the lost and the solemn pride that must be yours to have made so costly a sacrifice upon the alter of freedom.&#8221;</p><p>2) Nobody (worth hearing) is suggesting that saving the whales is more important, or equally important, to tending to our social fabric. What they are saying, if you listen with a carefully bent ear, is that through fostering care for things other than ourselves we create a society that by virtue of its interest in things besides itself, takes good care of itself. Without a strong social network, these other less paramount causes could garner no attention.</p><p>&#8220;It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.&#8221;</p><p>Theodore Roosevelt (26th U.S. president (1901-09), 1858-1919)</p><p>Posted by: Justin | April 12, 2005 12:44 PM</p><p>could we change &#8220;whales&#8221; to &#8220;the unborn&#8221;?</p><p>Posted by: max solon | April 12, 2005 12:48 PM</p><p>I fully agree with you, but isn&#8217;t that called duty? And isn&#8217;t that the choice of the child? The child is not being sacrificed for the parent but rather the child is sacrificing his own life. That soldier is a whale. That soldier is sacrificing his life for his spouse, his children, his family, his friends, his community, and his country.</p><p>Entirely different, in my opinion, but important none-the-less.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 12, 2005 3:56 PM</p><p>Yea. I see the problem.</p><p>We should take control of our families and sort out all our family problems.</p><p>What about taking them to the ocean? We could all look for the whales together!</p><p>No, waste of time. What if we don&#8217;t sort out our problems when we&#8217;re there? We might all get lost in some sadly transient awe at the beauty of the whales &#8211; or probably just the idea of whales. For precious moments we&#8217;d forget the problems we went there to sort.<br
/> My family is not weak!<br
/> And who&#8217;s driving?</p><p>And if all the whales are gone anyway because of whalers, or depleted fish stocks from crazy fishing, or deafening submarine engines interfering in their songs, we&#8217;re only going to get frustrated at humanity&#8217;s impotence in the face of these vital industries.<br
/> I can do without that.<br
/> And they have no rhythm as far as I can tell.</p><p>Let&#8217;s relax with the tv newstoons and a healthy tuna salad, and save up the money from work for a good holiday one day. Disney? Hope we don&#8217;t use it all up on therapy first.<br
/> Or they grow up.</p><p>Forget the whales. You only live once.</p><p>Posted by: Hugh Whiting | April 12, 2005 9:48 PM</p><p>I think you&#8217;ve got your focus slightly wrong here, because you&#8217;re centering on &#8220;activists&#8221; when you should be thinking of all parents.</p><p>I know several handfuls of people who were scared and abandoned children, and the few who were raised by nannies were the lucky ones. Some of those abandoned children had parents at home, but they were so involved in business that they never saw their kids. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;activism,&#8221; it&#8217;s about abandoning your family for anything, and we shouldn&#8217;t confuse the two.</p><p>All the actual activists I&#8217;ve known share their activism with their families (I used to work for the Sierra Club, so I&#8217;ve known a few).</p><p>P.S., and this is a note for everybody, because this is the third time I&#8217;ve seen the error today: IT&#8217;S SPELLED &#8220;GANDHI.&#8221; G. A. N. D. H. I.</p><p>Posted by: Rika Youngblood | April 12, 2005 10:28 PM</p><p>i disagree with your assessment that the whales can fend for themselves .. they have no chance at all when their home is polluted, their food depleted, and their migration paths are congested with oil tankers .. what&#8217;s worst, we have the power to wipe out the planet (not just a single species) with just a push of the button (in 2002, we were just seven minutes away from midnight on the doomsday clock).</p><p>i have yet to run into children of the green movement who &#8220;are a mess&#8221;. on the contrary, having attended an ultra-liberal college of a progressive town [santa cruz], i have met and befriended many of these second-generation hippies who continue to uphold the various -ISMs (re: liberalism, idealism, etc) and values of their parents. what a wonderful gifts these hippies of yesteryears have given to their children.</p><p>this legacy echoes the teachings of the wisdom keepers of the mohawk nation, who teach their people to respect the land, and that &#8220;&#8230; everything they do affects the Seventh Generation and we must think of the unborn faces looking up from beneath Mother Earth&#8221;.</p><p>though my parents were not part of the green movement, i do believe in it .. and i will save the whales for the both of us.</p><p>Posted by: nam lamore | April 13, 2005 4:20 PM</p><p>Hugh, the entire time I read your comment I thought of the dolphins from Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy! &#8212; thanks for that. But I have to tell you that I don&#8217;t really give a rat&#8217;s twat what you get up to.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | April 13, 2005 8:23 PM</p><p>What absolute twaddle.</p><p>Where is your evidence to back up the existence of these orphans of ecology? Don&#8217;t you think that there are people that put work before their family in all walks of life?</p><p>You&#8217;re being deliberately provocative. Get a life. Spend some time with your own family and friends instead of wasting your time attempting to bait people on the internet for your own pathetic amusement.</p><p>Posted by: Vilnius Terence | April 14, 2005 10:59 AM</p><p>I think you are bang out of order the people that save the whales are good people and are doing good. I am sure 9 out of ten would not neglected there families because of it and the ones that do are yes in the wrong when I was a little girl saving the whales was my dream<br
/> whales are mammals just like we are they are getting killed by there own species which is not right you are saying we should be stopping the robberies and the murders but by killing the whales you are doing the same to them you are murdering them and robbing them of a family something’s need looking after and at least there are SOME descent people out there that will do it not everyone sees life in the same way you do. if you had a pet dog for example and someone was trying to kill it you would do everything you could to save it because it is part of the family some people see whales in that way. How would you feel if you were just sitting at home with your family and someone shot a harpoon at you? Well that’s what it is like for them.<br
/> just imagine(I don’t no if you have kids) that you were sitting at home with your kids and someone captured you or killed you just think about what it would do to your kids but at least they would have other family or they would have the opinion of foster care or adoption. but those poor whales probably don’t have help like that they would be all alone and maybe too young to know how to survive on their own so I think in the future instead of being lost in your own little world and think its the saving the whales that is doing it think again because they need as much help as we do. And if you are so bovered about the community I hope you are out there doing something for it. Infact why don’t you go out there and do something now instead of wasting your time writing this web site moaning about there whale savers and do something for the community yours sincerely jess</p><p>Posted by: jess | May 13, 2005 9:31 AM</p><p>this is sick we can save ourslevs we have a voice of our own but the whales dont so if they cant speak to stick up for themslves who will? because it is clear u wont. i would and that is a fact u mybe should listen because it is your people that is causing the problem with the whales.</p><p>Posted by: stephanie | May 23, 2005 4:41 AM</p><p>If the vast majority of people who aren&#8217;t inclined towards saving the whales and such, were instead spending their free time trying to truly take care of their families, spouses &amp; communities I might see validity to your argument&#8230;as it is this post just looks like liberal-baiting to me.</p><p>Whatever. You guys are right. We suck. Money is king. Whatever.</p><p>Posted by: Cary | June 21, 2005 2:53 PM</p><p>You can always catch a liberal if you use a whale as bait!</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 21, 2005 4:44 PM</p><p>what a stupid article.</p><p>Posted by: Urb | June 21, 2005 9:05 PM</p><p>Your argument is astonishing to me. If you can honestly re-read it two times and not see the mile-wide holes in your reasoning you might need to take some time to think things over. Really.</p><p>Suffice to say that if this is the way you feel then I&#8217;m thinking that you have some learning to do about what a relationship is, what a marriage is and what raising a child is. Let&#8217;s set your gloss on activism == children raised by nannies aside. That is a deep issue with a whole spectra of situations that you are lumping into the most negative terminus.</p><p>You don&#8217;t raise a child by commiting yourself to voluntary servitude to him or her &#8212; nor do you &#8216;make a family&#8217; by staying home and staring at them 24/7. Strong people with strong convictions raise children that share these traits. Strong marriages are not made by two people who spend all their time on each other. The best thing you can do for a child is to inspire her by setting an example of what a person can do in this world.</p><p>To hold the opinions that you express within the context of your personal mores is one thing, but to insult *activism* at large and to call people who give a damn and are doing somehting about it bad parents bullshit on stilts.</p><p>Posted by: anon | June 22, 2005 12:09 PM</p><p>You have the honor of missing my point entirely. I think you might be suffering from some sort of deep-seated guilt.</p><p>Posted by: Chris Abraham | June 22, 2005 1:29 PM</p><p>we as humans have a responsibilty to care for all living creatures of this earth as they all have a right to live and we are the ones who have destroyed their homes and species. So it is a responsibility of ours to try protect those species in danger because of the selfish act of others.</p><p>Posted by: Amy | July 9, 2005 1:47 AM</p><p>you obviously is idiot, u must be someone who cares only about urself. please open u eyes and see what people like u are doing to animals. IDIOT</p><p>Posted by: lin jia yi | July 11, 2005 8:13 AM</p><p>first of all Mr.Abraham does make a point, if your life isn&#8217;t well put together you shouldn&#8217;t particate in any other extra curricular activities. However,he fails to mention other activities people particate in that aren&#8217;t for the environment,anmails/endangered species,or other worthwhile cause that never the less can disrrupt homes,childhoods,&amp; break families such as:homeless, needy, abuse, disabiled, &amp; feed the children. but these aren&#8217;t mentioned, why . . .?</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:14 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham I must say you speak of neglected children,&amp; husbands. can you prove anything you say? And if you can tell us how many people are neglected because of their parents jobs, hobbies, and everyday life who aren&#8217;t rooted in some cause and are just living in a regular town, would you? There are problems in life &amp; marriage due to nothing but their own faults, to not think so &amp; live in a perfect world is denial.I suggest you open your eyes.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:35 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham,I respect other people&#8217;s opinions.You do not.That I refuse to respect,the lives of others &amp; how the are lived are not yours to dictate to.You probley have a nice apt. in a upscale N.Y. neighborhood. Must be nice. You&#8217;ve had everything handed to you in a silver spoon. I don&#8217;t discriminate agianst the rich even though i am not. But for the poor who live in the wild or country nature is greatly loved,respected,&amp;cared for.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 4:49 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, you must watch your views &amp; how you express them because you can offend many people,I was very offended by your statements and took it personally.It hurt,and I thought of all the others you&#8217;ve hurt by this. I suggest you apologize to the envirnmental community.I don&#8217;t apphreciate your calling Dr.King a &#8220;philanderer saint&#8221; and suggest you appologize to the black community as well.One day you may wake up and see how precious our world is.</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:01 PM</p><p>Mr.Abraham, this is my last post.I know your thinking &#8220;thank god&#8221;. But in short i will speak a quote of love ,honesty,&amp; truth. &#8221; The wonderous world under sea &amp; land, in the big scheme of things one life may seem insugnifficant but it&#8217;s the greatest gift we know and we cannot let this world of light, love ,and beauty perish.&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: integra | July 11, 2005 5:09 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A CRAZY, CRAZY TOOL.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:20 PM</p><p>Mr Abraham, YOU ARE A FREAKY FREAKY FREAK.</p><p>Posted by: Mad Anne Bonney | July 11, 2005 10:21 PM</p><p>My ex long ago abandoned our son for native american/worker/prison issues. The worst part is my 18-yr-old son who was dragged to the W.T.O. when he was 13(although it makes for a good story to say he&#8217;s been teargassed)-my son only sees the hypocrisy in the hardcore activists&#8211;thinking of them as angry and sad without any stability or truth.</p><p>Posted by: christina | July 12, 2005 7:19 PM</p><p>Your thoughts are disturbing because if you cannot enjoy the utter beauty we have in our world you are really disturbed. This page is sick and unfortunatly I visited this sight BLAH&#8230;.SAVE THE WHALES</p><p>Posted by: Crystal | July 12, 2005 8:22 PM</p><p>Save the Earth, KILL YER SELF!!!!</p><p>Posted by: Martin Jones | July 26, 2005 4:17 PM</p><p>love animals keep them safe. would if u were a whale oh yeah lets just 4get u. u r nothing.GOD put thing here 4 a reson life is a leason. u will get whats coming.SAVE WHALES,CARE 4 THEM.</p><p>Posted by: ryah | July 26, 2005 8:59 PM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur article</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 5:32 AM</p><p>i have only 1 thing 2 say about ur artical</p><p>&#8220;THE HELL&#8221;</p><p>Posted by: emman | July 27, 2005 9:50 AM</p><p>Sorry I don&#8217;t think like you At ALL!!!</p><p>Posted by: Bobbie | August 1, 2005 3:48 AM</p><p>You are really twisted aren&#8217;t you. so you think we should focus on other things no we shouldn&#8217;t im 13 and i am trying to save the animals from people like you. Sick people who are self centered and don&#8217;t care for others. You need to get your head out of your *** and open your eyes. You wouldn&#8217;t like for someone to kill you without question and make lipstick or shampoo out of you would you??? Animals that live in the water are being killed for your convience so you can have shampoo. i don&#8217;t think so buddy. I bet you go out there and kill them so you can be satified. Well you know what we&#8217;ll stop people like you from hurting the animals we love. Without or with out your help. So when all the animals are gone we&#8217;ll start making shampoo and lipstick out of people like you so you know what it fells like to be them. So you know how much pain people put tem through. Woould you like a harpoon explosive shot into your brain and blow up and kill you then hit you repeatedly with an axe. So you need to get your head out of your***</p><p>Posted by: Cayla Rene | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>You are really crule huh? dude you have to save the whales. they are killing the whales just so they can make soap to rub all over your body .well i am 13 and i am trying to save the whales . so people like yuo dont get to kill them. you are really wrong and dont care one bit about the animals under the sea. well you should.whales , orcas , sharks and other mammals die just to make new and stupid improved products. you are a *** and you need to care about the animals they have dont nothing to you and you want to kill them well dont. cause me and my friends cayla will beat your ***<br
/> you need to care. well would you want to die just to make lipstick and shampoo.</p><p>write back and i will tell you more abourt the animals you need to car eabout what they do for you there are only a hundred remaining in the world .soon there will be no more and then it will make you happy huh well you need to get your head out of the gutter . when all the animals are gone what are u gonna do we are gonna blame you!!!!!!!!!</p><p>Posted by: ALexa RAe | January 31, 2007 12:50 PM</p><p>you might think that whales dont matter but your wrong. ya you need to take care of your family but we also need to save are world. all of you that sont think that the whales arent important than you SUCK.</p><p>Posted by: chalsea | February 15, 2007 6:44 PM</p></blockquote><div
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/> * McPhee has a sister named Adriana, who is one year older.<br
/> * McPhee is left handed.<br
/> * McPhee is 5&#8217;7&#8243; (170 cm).<br
/> * McPhee was rumored to be a Scientologist. In the past, McPhee had attended and completed two individual courses in Scientology.[2] However, according to an May 12, 2006 interview on Los Angeles radio station KROQ 106.7, McPhee stated she &#8220;dabbled in Scientology&#8221; because of a former love interest but is not a Scientologist; according to her, she was &#8220;quickly out the door.&#8221;[3]<br
/> * McPhee has a dog named Lily.<br
/> * McPhee has a goddaughter who was born during McPhee&#8217;s run in Hollywood.</em></p><p><em>During her initial audition for American Idol in San Francisco, she sang &#8220;God Bless the Child.&#8221; Judge Randy Jackson said she was the best voice he had heard so far that season, judge Paula Abdul praised her looks, and judge Simon Cowell said she was amazing and &#8220;current.&#8221; McPhee&#8217;s mother had gone with her to the audition, and Cowell made a comment about the possibility that the elder McPhee was a stage mother.</em></p><p><em>In the final cut-down show for the Top 24, McPhee was the first to be put through and, in excitement, kissed all three judges on the lips. She cried both when she passed her initial audition and when she made it into the Top 24.</em></p><p><em>In the first round of the semi-finals, she sang Barbra Streisand&#8217;s version of Buddy Johnson&#8217;s &#8220;Since I Fell for You,&#8221; again earning high praises as Cowell said that out of the four &#8220;very, very good vocalists&#8221; of the night, she was the best.</em></p><p><em>During the week leading to the third round of the semi-finals, where McPhee sang Aretha Franklin&#8217;s &#8220;Think,&#8221; she was rumored to be quitting due to pregnancy. However, during the performance show on March 7, 2006, she denied this accusation, later attributing it to a poor choice of clothing. Host Ryan Seacrest, with tongue-in-cheek, asked about her and fellow Idol contestant Kevin Covais.</em></p><p><em>During the week preceding the top 3 show, McPhee visited her former high school for her hometown celebration.[4]</em></p><p><center><em><br
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/> </em></center><em>McPhee&#8217;s run on American Idol led to the popular use of the term &#8220;McPheever,&#8221; coined by Ralph Garman of Los Angeles radio station KROQ&#8217;s morning show Kevin and Bean, and also &#8220;McPhan,&#8221; &#8220;McPhaith&#8221; and &#8220;Kat Pack.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>On the May 23, 2006, edition of NBC&#8217;s Today Show, Katie Couric mentioned news reports saying that Katharine&#8217;s greatest assets are her looks and strong fan base, while her greatest liability is the fact that her performances suffer when she is under pressure.</em></p><p><em>Performances</em></p><p><em>Semi-finals</em></p><p><em>* February 21, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Since I Fell for You,&#8221; Barbra Streisand version.<br
/> o Cowell said that she was the best singer of the night.<br
/> * February 28, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;All in Love Is Fair,&#8221; Stevie Wonder<br
/> o The judges stated that they thought this performance fell victim to poor song choice, but Abdul thought that she was &#8220;still a star.&#8221;<br
/> * March 7, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Think,&#8221; Aretha Franklin<br
/> o The judges stated that they loved this performance because she &#8220;had fun with it.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>Finals</em></p><p><em>* March 14, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Until You Come Back to Me,&#8221; Stevie Wonder<br
/> o The theme was Stevie Wonder, and the judges stated that they loved this performance. Jackson said that the McPhee he &#8220;met during the auditions&#8221; was back. Cowell compared her gaining of momentum to Kelly Clarkson in the show&#8217;s first season.<br
/> * March 21, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Come Rain or Come Shine,&#8221; Ella Fitzgerald<br
/> o The theme was 1950&#8242;s, and once again the judges were very impressed. Jackson noted that it wasn&#8217;t her best vocal performance, but it was still great. Abdul agreed wholeheartedly. Cowell noted that it was the performance that made her a star.<br
/> * March 28, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;The Voice Within,&#8221; Christina Aguilera &#8211; (Bottom 3)<br
/> o The theme was songs of the 21st century. Jackson thought she should have changed the performance up to make it her own. Abdul said she wouldn&#8217;t change a thing. Cowell said it was the best that night so far, and almost as good as Aguilera. During the results show, however, McPhee was placed in the bottom three, and Cowell stated that upon viewing the playback, she wasn&#8217;t nearly as good as he thought.<br
/> * April 4, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Bringing Out The Elvis,&#8221; Faith Hill<br
/> o The theme for the night was country. McPhee was the eighth of nine performers that night. Jackson said: &#8220;Kind of bluesy country, yeah? I like it. You sang it very nice, very nice. Good job, dawg, good job.&#8221; Abdul said: &#8220;That is your style; that&#8217;s your niche. You look sexy, hot. You&#8217;re cool.&#8221; Cowell, looking a bit bewildered, said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what to say anymore; I really don&#8217;t. That song was just so peculiar.&#8221; At this point McPhee spoke up and said: &#8220;Simon, you just don&#8217;t like country music. It&#8217;s okay. Just say it,&#8221; with which Cowell agreed, saying: &#8220;You&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t. I hate it.&#8221;<br
/> * April 11, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Who Wants to Live Forever,&#8221; Queen<br
/> o The theme was songs by Queen, and McPhee performed fifth out of eight contestants. The judges&#8217; reactions were as follows: Jackson said: &#8220;This is your element, I mean a little Broadway, big song, kind of big voice. It was a little pitchy in spots, and I thought at some points it was a little big for you, but you did a good job, I think, all in all.&#8221; Abdul said: &#8220;You made the right decision to just stand there and be glorious, with your glorious voice. I mean it&#8217;s a song that big singers like Celine Dion and Barbra Streisand take on; and you, Katharine McPhee, can handle it, and you did a great job.&#8221; Cowell said: &#8220;Katharine, I mean that was almost the moment. You know, I agree with Randy [Jackson], I think there were some tuning problems at parts. I think you owe a big kiss to the director and the lighting director there, because they made you look amazing — I mean really good. But overall I think it was probably one of the strongest tonight. Yeah. Very good.&#8221; McPhee then responded, “Thank you, I know, I do. Thank you, guys,??? in response to Cowell&#8217;s comment about owing the directors a kiss, as she turned and thanked them.<br
/> * April 18, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Someone to Watch Over Me,&#8221; George Gershwin<br
/> o The theme was &#8220;The Great American Songbook&#8221; by Rod Stewart. McPhee performed last that night. Jackson said that McPhee was in her &#8220;element.&#8221; Abdul believed that she picked the perfect song and told her that it was like watching her for the very first time, and that she had fallen in love with her all over again. Cowell said that she made the others look like &#8220;good amateurs.&#8221; He told her she was the best of the night, and that she was elegant and sang like a returning pro. Rod Stewart himself told her that he believed she was born to sing the Standards, and that he couldn&#8217;t think of anything else to say about her, other than the fact that she was brilliant.<br
/> * April 25, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;I Have Nothing,&#8221; Whitney Houston &#8211; (Top 2)<br
/> o The theme was &#8220;Greatest Love Songs.&#8221; Jackson said that it was a good song choice but it was too big for her. Abdul said she was stunning but believed it was too pitchy. Cowell said that by coming out and singing that song she was saying she is as good as Whitney Houston. Seacrest jokingly remarked that McPhee would get votes from anybody with the volume turned down. The following night, Cowell took back his statement, saying that when he watched it back, it was a good performance. Jackson also apologized by saying that he had been a little bit &#8220;too harsh.&#8221; McPhee was among the top two vote getters on elimination night along with fellow contestant Chris Daughtry.<br
/> * May 2, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)&#8221;, Phil Collins; &#8220;Black Horse and the Cherry Tree,&#8221; KT Tunstall<br
/> o The theme for the night was for them to pick a song from the same year they were born, and a song from this week&#8217;s Billboard charts. For &#8220;Against All Odds,&#8221; Jackson thought her performance may have been in the wrong key for Katharine&#8217;s voice, but it was OK. Abdul said it wasn&#8217;t her favorite song choice for her. Cowell said that in parts the song was a mess, and that it ran away from her. They all thought she looked stunning in her dress. For &#8220;Black Horse and the Cherry Tree,&#8221; Jackson liked seeing the old McPhee back. Abdul loved the intimacy and the choreography. Cowell said the song choice was great for her and it really showed her personality. He liked how her toes matched her top.<br
/> * May 9, 2006 &#8211; &#8220;Hound Dog/All Shook Up&#8221; and &#8220;Can&#8217;t Help Falling in Love&#8221;, Elvis Presley &#8211; (Bottom 2)<br
/> o The theme was Elvis Presley. For &#8220;Hound Dog/All Shook Up&#8221;, Jackson asked if she forgot the lyrics but Abdul said she handled it well and that the performance was &#8220;really fun&#8221;. Cowell said it was a &#8220;desperate manic audition&#8221; and that the song was also &#8220;shrieky&#8221; and for him, he just thought that it &#8220;wasn&#8217;t a great performance&#8221;. For &#8220;Can&#8217;t Help Falling in Love,&#8221; she received mixed reviews, as well as Abdul commenting that she preferred &#8220;Katharine having fun&#8221; and Simon noting the song as being &#8220;pitchy.&#8221; On May 10, 2006, McPhee was in the bottom two with Chris Daughtry. Daughtry was eliminated from the competition.<br
/> * May 16, 2006<br
/> o Clive Davis chose R. Kelly&#8217;s &#8220;I Believe I Can Fly&#8221; for McPhee. Jackson thought she did well, but the song choice was bad and she wasn&#8217;t &#8220;that singer.&#8221; Abdul, after some pause and inspiration from an audience member, said that McPhee was incredible, and that she looked fabulous. Cowell enjoyed the performance.<br
/> o Cowell chose &#8220;Over the Rainbow&#8221; (originally made famous by Judy Garland) for McPhee. Jackson was blown away, calling her &#8220;a hot one,&#8221; and declaring that she had the best song of the season. Abdul was also impressed, saying that song was her &#8220;element.&#8221; Cowell said that he was very happy for Katharine and, putting the fact that he chose the song aside, he thought it was the best performance of the competition to date. He also added that it was brilliant.<br
/> o McPhee chose Ella Fitzgerald&#8217;s &#8220;I Ain&#8217;t Got Nothin&#8217; But the Blues&#8221; for her final song. Jackson said it was good, but not to the extent of her second song. Abdul agreed, once again saying that McPhee&#8217;s second song was her &#8220;element.&#8221; Cowell said it was okay, and he wished America had seen her second song last instead. McPhee made it to the final two, along with Taylor Hicks.<br
/> * May 23, 2006<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s first song was Black Horse and the Cherry Tree from the Final 5. Randy Jackson said it was better than the first time. Paula Abdul said that Katharine was brilliant. Simon Cowell said it was good, but not big enough for this event.<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s second song was Somewhere Over the Rainbow from the Final 3. Jackson said it was amazing and hot. Abdul said it was great. Cowell said it was her best performance of the season.<br
/> o McPhee&#8217;s third song was an original single called My Destiny written by singer/songwriter Hanne Sorvaag. Jackson said McPhee looked and sounded amazing, but she was better than the song. Abdul agreed that Katharine sounded amazing. Cowell said that this song made her go from &#8220;brilliant&#8221; to only &#8220;quite good&#8221;, but her second song was where she truly shined.</em></p><p><center><br
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/></center><strong>Phenomenal Woman by Maya Angelou </strong></p><p><em>Pretty women wonder where my secret lies.<br
/> I&#8217;m not cute or built to suit a fashion model&#8217;s size<br
/> But when I start to tell them,<br
/> They think I&#8217;m telling lies.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the reach of my arms<br
/> The span of my hips,<br
/> The stride of my step,<br
/> The curl of my lips.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>I walk into a room<br
/> Just as cool as you please,<br
/> And to a man,<br
/> The fellows stand or<br
/> Fall down on their knees.<br
/> Then they swarm around me,<br
/> A hive of honey bees.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s the fire in my eyes,<br
/> And the flash of my teeth,<br
/> The swing in my waist,<br
/> And the joy in my feet.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>Men themselves have wondered<br
/> What they see in me.<br
/> They try so much<br
/> But they can&#8217;t touch<br
/> My inner mystery.<br
/> When I try to show them<br
/> They say they still can&#8217;t see.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the arch of my back,<br
/> The sun of my smile,<br
/> The ride of my breasts,<br
/> The grace of my style.<br
/> I&#8217;m a woman</em></p><p><em>Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me.</em></p><p><em>Now you understand<br
/> Just why my head&#8217;s not bowed.<br
/> I don&#8217;t shout or jump about<br
/> Or have to talk real loud.<br
/> When you see me passing<br
/> It ought to make you proud.<br
/> I say,<br
/> It&#8217;s in the click of my heels,<br
/> The bend of my hair,<br
/> the palm of my hand,<br
/> The need of my care,<br
/> &#8216;Cause I&#8217;m a woman<br
/> Phenomenally.<br
/> Phenomenal woman,<br
/> That&#8217;s me. </em></p><div
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href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/07/29/dc-men-and-the-number-one-wife/" rel="nofollow">DC Men and the Number One Wife</a>. Got a <a
href="http://www.wonkette.com/politics/chris-abraham/" rel="nofollow">Wonkette link</a> from it, too.</p><blockquote><p>In response to <a
href="http://chrisabraham.com/2005/07/29/dc-men-and-the-number-one-wife/" rel="nofollow">Dating DC Men and Number One Wife</a>, a buddy of mine responded with his own experience. &#8220;Simply put, DC Women only see the DC Men that they let themselves see, and so they can&#8217;t bitch when they get treated badly or when they can&#8217;t find a good guy,&#8221; is my favorite line.</p><p>&#8220;Now, I am not really the prototypical DC Male, being, as I am, prone to monogamy even when I have a friends-with-benefits (I mean, really, who has the time to juggle any more?). And, certainly, my FWB is something of a relationship placeholder until I meet someone with a slightly better mix of sex appeal and conversation skills (and who likes to play cards).&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;I think the DC Male could just as easily be described as a natural response to the liberation of women in this town. Let’s face it, in DC there is always someone smarter, more powerful, more interesting &#8230; hell, the itinerant nature of the town virtually assures a fresh flow of the new and novel. How does your average male compete with the knowledge that 1) the very next reception you attend could also be the beginning of that whirlwind love affair that just so happens to include your present ‘other’ and someone who is definitely not paying your mortgage; and 2) that your present ‘other’ is smart enough to know that, at least in some respects, she can always do better (or, at least, she has now been taught that settling is for Midwestern girls, thus the buffet line of sample men is the perfect place to run roughshod over any occasional gentleman who may cross her path)? &#8221;</p><p>&#8220;DC is the perfect pressure-cooker for irrational romance&#8230;better, dare I say, than even New York. And as hard as most men may argue it, women are simply better at getting swept away in the ‘moment’ with that suave, multi-lingual, unbuttoned-button-down jackass who will just as soon give them the clap as he would to give them commitment.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Simply put, DC Women only see the DC Men that they let themselves see, and so they can&#8217;t bitch when they get treated badly or when they can&#8217;t find a good guy. Good, kind, single guys abound &#8230; they are just not going to walk up to you at Salsa night and give you some crap line to show how cool they are. They are going to be hanging with their friends, because a few actual and good friends are so terribly hard to find these days. They are going to be reading a book with a beer in the corner, because a good lay may fade from memory, but knowledge lasts forever (or until Alzheimer&#8217;s). They are going to be at a play or the symphony, because true beauty is felt and embraced by the soul, not just through the eyes and the pecker. They are going to look boring at the outset, because they have felt some part of the pain of this world and have gained the wisdom of experience in not blithely opening themselves up to another can of romantic whup-ass.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;But, in the end, they are the ones who are going to look after everyone else, who will answer the most pressing and important questions of our times, who will raise the next generation of good people. In short, they are the most interesting and desirable of them all, because they are real. And, if DC Women can&#8217;t seem to find a good guy, then fuck &#8216;em. Call it modern natural selection, because I know a good DC Male can be happy and single, and no matter who they are with, the typical DC Woman will always be alone.&#8221;</p><p>This buddy of mine is no nice guy and has discrete lovers and friends-with-benefits and so forth, which does nothing to change the fact that he is indeed earnestly searching from miss right.</p><p>I was rereading <a
href="http://www.chrisabraham.com/2005/07/dating_dc_men_a.php" rel="nofollow">Dating DC Men and Number One Wife</a> and realized that the acronym for number one wife is NOW.</p><p>&#8220;Now&#8221; has a lot to do with it, I think. Proper relationships are time- and energy-intensive. We Washingtonians are an awful mixture of a-type, ambitious, workaholic, social, neurotic, and never-satisfied and number one wife allows a man to have a wife without needing to maintain one.</p></blockquote><div
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